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Is there any other operating systems that we can run on the HTC Hero beside Android as would really like to try somthing diffrent on it.
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I also tried, but most other OS are either close source or built for another CPU type. Widows phone for example is closed source, while Meego is built for Intel chips
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awesome very nice
hmm...i know a solution buy a phone from every OS )))))
Stefan
stefpaul said:
hmm...i know a solution buy a phone from every OS )))))
Stefan
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wouldnt be a very feasible solution now would it?
Every OS has layer over layers of code and to run it you have to go with a better phone, because you need power...and some OS's have closed source code... so no access to what we need to develop...
And sincer the hero is to damn old...phone are evolving to fast...damn why have a quad core phone (i read htc has one in plans) if you have a max of 5 inch display????? I understand power to a tablet BUT TO A PHONE?... Most of the cases are market strategy...
So in this case, to run a OS on a single phone it's getting kind of hard...so a phone for every os is the best option. I would like to run WM on my phone but since no source code...
Stefan
stefpaul said:
Every OS has layer over layers of code and to run it you have to go with a better phone, because you need power...and some OS's have closed source code... so no access to what we need to develop...
And sincer the hero is to damn old...phone are evolving to fast...damn why have a quad core phone (i read htc has one in plans) if you have a max of 5 inch display????? I understand power to a tablet BUT TO A PHONE?... Most of the cases are market strategy...
So in this case, to run a OS on a single phone it's getting kind of hard...so a phone for every os is the best option. I would like to run WM on my phone but since no source code...
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I heard abt quad core,nvidia is also launching quads,our hero 's r coming to a near dead end,but I know development will never cease,
I may go fr a quad but I'd still use this fone simply Cos it opened my world at xda
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quadcore... AMAZING
I would love to have a quad core phone imagin what you could do with it.
It would be great to run a virtual host on it an have 2, lets say androids on it one for business with all the restrictions activated from exchange or anything and one private where you can have your social media apps.
Just have two (or more) phone in one phone.
maybe also different platforms,... who knows.
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I would love to have a quad core phone imagin what you could do with it.
It would be great to run a virtual host on it an have 2, lets say androids on it one for business with all the restrictions activated from exchange or anything and one private where you can have your social media apps.
Just have two (or more) phone in one phone.
maybe also different platforms,... who knows.
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imagine how big the battery must be to get enough power in the CPU then
also dualcore is almost to much for a phone.. you never really need it
quad core on a phone....NEAH...buy a tablet...i already have one and i'm pleased with it, so i was asking myself these days? why buy a big 4.7 inch phone and spend a lot of money when you can buy a tablet and do more stuff with it since it has a 10 inch screen...
PS: asus transformers is on sale for BF @ 250 $...so it's good to buy if you don't need to play the new tegra games
Stefan
i would like wm 6.1 to my Hero )))
Thinking of getting one of these as a mess-around device as it has good community support and is cheap. Are they still in production, or is it just left over stock?
I myself have an archos A70s for nearly 2 years now and it is still a good device for some things.
But it is in no way capable of the things you need now.
If you want samething cheap why not get something like "Ainol Novo 7 Elf II" and get a real dualcore device that has 1 GB of ram and comes with ICS.
You can get that for less than 100 stearling on ebay.
And the Ainol community is growing every day ( and is active atm ).
ATM there are so many cheap r3066 or 8726-mx out there that i personaly wouldn't decide for the Archos.
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I myself have an archos A70s for nearly 2 years now and it is still a good device for some things.
But it is in no way capable of the things you need now.
If you want samething cheap why not get something like "Ainol Novo 7 Elf II" and get a real dualcore device that has 1 GB of ram and comes with ICS.
You can get that for less than 100 stearling on ebay.
And the Ainol community is growing every day ( and is active atm ).
ATM there are so many cheap r3066 or 8726-mx out there that i personaly wouldn't decide for the Archos.
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Sounds stupid but it was either this or the Arnova range. The Arnova range has little to no dev support but this tablet does, and is available at £130 in the UK. It's just a tinkering device that I don't really have to worry about making non-functional because I have a Galaxy Tab 10.1.
Although, what draws me to the Arnova is the more powerful hardware.
Arnova and more Powerfull?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Ainol-N...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item27c9cce1e3
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Arnova and more Powerfull?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-Ainol-N...=UK_iPad_Tablets_eReaders&hash=item27c9cce1e3
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It's not Arnova. It's Ainol.
Also, are they still being made? Do Archos provide fixes?
What tasks does it struggle with?
I just want a hacking device.
Hacking? As far as I know this device is good for development and hacking, a developer should answer your question. Anyway, if you are good developer (or developer at all) you are welcome to join the community. I dont know if the device is stil being made but the firmware support by the manufacturer is stopped as it seems.
@mr.fast:
That link was for you to compare the "Arnova is the more powerful hardware" to something that really is.
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@mr.fast:
That link was for you to compare the "Arnova is the more powerful hardware" to something that really is.
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Ok'ay, thanks...
I am still unsure if they are still being manufactured. Archos don't seem to sell them directly anymore but Carphone Warehouse in the UK have them for £150.
It's either this or an Arnova 10 G2. Is the Rockchip RK2918 more powerful than the OMAP in the Archos 101 G8?
It's just that the Arnova doesn't have any or little dev support and has more restrictive firmware.
Thanks.
Arnova users often come here and ask for help, so I think Archos community is better.
I'm selling my A101 G8 16G....
PM me for details. It has the ACC H264 codec already installed and paid for too. Nice case and HDMI cable.
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PM me for details. It has the ACC H264 codec already installed and paid for too. Nice case and HDMI cable.
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Sorry, I live in the UK.
Looks like it's been removed from the Archos website.
Australian-based firm, Intermatrix, have announced the first Ubuntu Tablet hardware, due to start shipping in October 2013 (http://www.ubuntutablet.com.au).
A 7-inch tablet has only been announced at the moment; plans to produce a 10-inch tablet are under way.
Specs are similar to what Canonical are currently developing/targeting their 7-inch model on: 1.5GHz Quad-Core Cortex A9, 1GB RAM.
That was rather quick!.. I wanna see System76 do a tablet tho.
given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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given your username intermatrixau, I am assuming you work for said company.
So, firstly, great job on being first - if I didn't already have a Nexus 7 i'd preorder, but it's not really a big enough change in specs for me to consider change at this point - I would get major wife agro and hammered by the minister for finance, who happens to be the same person.
So, question I have is - why not go for 2gb ram or more? as it is a full OS when docked, I wouldn't want it sluggish in any way opening up desktop applications. Although that said, I have not actually used Ubuntu Touch on my N7 yet so not sure if more will make much difference
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Yeah, 2GB would be nice.
We'd actually originally intended to release the 7-inch tablet with 2GB RAM, but unfortunately, our hardware guys reckon the chipset won't take a single 2GB chip (and there's no room for a second one!). As far as we can tell, at the moment, there's no 7-inch tablets on the market with 2GB RAM (yet).
RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
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RE: the "full OS when docked"; according to Canonical, they're targetting desktop convergence for 10-inch tablets and above.
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I didn't know that, I don't like that and I don't get WHY?! If a 7'' tablet's specs are enough to run a full desktop OS when docked, why won't they allow it? :/ Does anyone know WHY?
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is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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*Sigh*... Yes, yes it will....
Sounds wicked! :laugh:
is it will work with ARM based processor? my idea is may not
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Ubuntu has been ported to arm for several years now.
Ok been lurking on the thread for a while, and it appears the mk808,is the mostppreferred however what is the latest rootable android stick please.?
Latest not aways greatest
The MK808B has all the features of the MK808 with a few improvements, better wifi and bluetooth. The MK808 gets better custom ROM support and firmware updates come faster for the MK808. Latest doesn't mean its necessarily better, firmware for the MK808/B (4.2.2) is about 30% slower than Finless ROM for the MK808/B. For a price point under $50 the MK808B is hard to beat. I recommend buying a $50 to $60 Android TV stick every 3 to 6 months. Uhost U1A, and MK802 are the best single core tv sticks but are now obsolete. In 6 months or less quad core tv sticks will be about $50 and all dual cores will be obsolete, and by then you'll have a better understanding of how a tv stick works best for you.
Gaming (think webcam enabled first person shooter- live)
XBMC (netflix, hulu+, redbox, crackle, hbo2go, youtube)
Smarter TV (use voice command to control android apps)
Replacing PC (just surfing web, why not on big screen hdtv)
Video phone (skype, sipdroid, groove ip)
Online college courses (video chat classroom)
All starting around $50!
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The MK808B has all the features of the MK808 with a few improvements, better wifi and bluetooth. The MK808 gets better custom ROM support and firmware updates come faster for the MK808. Latest doesn't mean its necessarily better, firmware for the MK808/B (4.2.2) is about 30% slower than Finless ROM for the MK808/B. For a price point under $50 the MK808B is hard to beat. I recommend buying a $50 to $60 Android TV stick every 3 to 6 months. Uhost U1A, and MK802 are the best single core tv sticks but are now obsolete. In 6 months or less quad core tv sticks will be about $50 and all dual cores will be obsolete, and by then you'll have a better understanding of how a tv stick works best for you.
Gaming (think webcam enabled first person shooter- live)
XBMC (netflix, hulu+, redbox, crackle, hbo2go, youtube)
Smarter TV (use voice command to control android apps)
Replacing PC (just surfing web, why not on big screen hdtv)
Video phone (skype, sipdroid, groove ip)
Online college courses (video chat classroom)
All starting around $50!
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Cheers for a well explained post, am off to buy the mk808b.
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Ok been lurking on the thread for a while, and it appears the mk808,is the most preferred however what is the latest rootable android stick please.?
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mk808 is perhaps the hottest on the market, but for the latest you should check out the new quad cores that recently started coming out.
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mk808 is perhaps the hottest on the market, but for the latest you should check out the new quad cores that recently started coming out.
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argh, i'm confused. thought the 802 IIIs is the latest and hottest... anyone got an comparison table??
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argh, i'm confused. thought the 802 IIIs is the latest and hottest... anyone got an comparison table??
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I went with the 802IIIS because it is/was the latest....lol
Only getting my feet wet, looks more like what makes a device "hot" is the aftermarket support?
Im not sure I can figure out to root and play with all the new roms, so far the 802 has done what I needed it to.
Im sure the quad core will be hot, but which one will get all the aftermarket roms? your guess is as good as mine..
Hope that helps some?
thanks for your answer, but i'm not sure if its better to buy the 808b or the 802 IIIs... all i want is a stable android stick with an working android market.
...support would be great, but i never used product service til today.
woina said:
thanks for your answer, but i'm not sure if its better to buy the 808b or the 802 IIIs... all i want is a stable android stick with an working android market.
...support would be great, but i never used product service til today.
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Well The IIIS seams very stable, no freezing, no lockups...I use it for streaming video from a sling box and its just fine....Market no problems either...
I just saw today another aftermarket rom was made for the IIIS, that's a good sign....
I don't have the confidence to root so the stock is working great in my world.
Good luck on your choice!!!
Just ordered the 809. Cant wait to get it and play
The Pipo M9 & Cube U30GT2 10" RockChip RK 3188 Tablets are shipping now, I fully expect RK 3188 TV sticks and boxes will follow soon afterwards, and it will be the RockChip RK 3188 devices that will be favorites for the custom ROM makers, why, because its the fastest quad system with the most potential for further development to come out of China to date, the one that aficionados have been waiting for.
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The Pipo M9 & Cube U30GT2 10" RockChip RK 3188 Tablets are shipping now, I fully expect RK 3188 TV sticks and boxes will follow soon afterwards, and it will be the RockChip RK 3188 devices that will be favorites for the custom ROM makers, why, because its the fastest quad system with the most potential for further development to come out of China to date, the one that aficionados have been waiting for.
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Have you got a link for these please.?
Well in the end I went for mk809b. It's been shipped should be with me soon. Will give my thoughts when I have used
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Have you got a link for these please.?
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Here's one
http://www.geekbuying.com/item/Tron...188-2G-DDR3-Wifi-Bluetooth-TV-BOX-314524.html
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Have you got a link for these please.?
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/bit.ly/WPqmB8
http://www.shopping.hp.com/en_US/ho...us/en/pc_cons/higher_asp/slatebook_x2/buynow8
Processor
NVIDIA® Tegra® 4 T40S with Intel HD Graphics (1.8 GHz, 1 MB L2 cache)
Graphics
Intel HD Graphics 4000
HOLY SHEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIII****!
I just found out that the HP Slatebook x2 comes with an Intel HD 4000, not the Tegra 4 GPU!
THIS MAKES THE SLATEBOOK THE MOST POWERFUL GAMING ANDROID TABLET EVER MADE!
http://anandtech.com/show/7190/nvidia-shield-review-tegra-4-crossroads-pc-mobile-gaming/5
The HD 4000 is roughly 1.5x faster than the Tegra 4 GPU. The HD 4000 is also roughly 3.0x faster than the Adreno 320 in the N7v2!
I'm returning my N7v2 and buying the Slatebook ASAP... will let anyone who's interested know more!
But its too expensive!
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It certainly seems like a nice device but its more than double the price...
the price is not for me even though i spent 300 on the nvidia shield and 270 on the n7 i think its ok...i would not get it though after seeing how bad hp were with there own product that they killed in less than 3 months now they move to android. simple fact is i dont trust them period no matter how good the device may look.
Psh! It's not too expensive! My 32 GB N10 was $30 more. So what if it's twice the price of the N7? It's also more than twice the value, so you're getting what you pay for.
If everybody used the argument "it's too expensive" then we'd all be buying $60 Chinese Android tablets off Amazon.
I'm sure the Slate is great, but main reason I bought the N7 was the price.
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Double the price, and it is a 10 inch. They aren't even in the same catagory.
You guys are completely missing the point.
HD 4000 in an Android tablet! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!
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You guys are completely missing the point.
HD 4000 in an Android tablet! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!
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For what? I don't play games on my N7.
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You guys are completely missing the point.
HD 4000 in an Android tablet! THIS IS REVOLUTIONARY!
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Yeah it might be... but where on HP's spec sheet does it say Intel HD Graphics?
Key specifications
• Android 4.2
• Nvidia T40S, 4-Plus-1™ Quad(2a)
• 10.1-inch diagonal WUXGA LED-backlit touchscreen display (1920x1200)
• On-board 2GB 1600MHz DDR3 SDRAM
• 16GB solid-state drive(6)
• Full-size island-style keyboard
• 1x1 802.11b/g/n WLAN(8) and Bluetooth®(8f)
Product highlights
• Android™ OS:Use all your familiar AndroidTM apps and stay connected to
your must-have digital content.(12q)
• ARM processor: Enjoy a faster and more immersive mobile computing experience and bring your games to
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The main points out of the page... lists nothing Intel wise. My guess it was an oops on the main page.
And if it was in there... why would it run on a Nvidia chipset, it wouldn't it would be on an intel CPU.
I'm really confuse with the Intell Hd4000. No way HP was able to use an intel GPU chip with Nvidia's CPU/GPU combo, or did they? haha would be awesome though. I'm sure this is a type or error.
Hd 4000 confirmed
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For what? I don't play games on my N7.
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You just answered your own question there. You may not play games, but EVERY ANDROID GAMER IN THE WORLD WILL BE FREAKING BLOWN AWAY BY THIS!
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Yeah it might be... but where on HP's spec sheet does it say Intel HD Graphics?
The main points out of the page... lists nothing Intel wise. My guess it was an oops on the main page.
And if it was in there... why would it run on a Nvidia chipset, it wouldn't it would be on an intel CPU.
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I just spoke with an HP Customer Representative:
11:27:11 AM : Me: Initial Question/Comment: HP Slatebook x2 with HD 4000?
11:27:11 AM : Welcome! Our HP Home & Home Office Sales Chat Team serves the US only.
11:27:16 AM : We do not provide product support. We will refer you to HP Technical Support, the HP Parts Store or to non-US sales help.
11:27:16 AM : If you still need US sales or ordering assistance, please stay in queue. Our Sales Chat Representative will be with you shortly.
11:27:31 AM : Michka D. has joined this session!
11:27:31 AM : Connected with Michka D.. Your Reference Number for this chat is 2057637.
11:27:51 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for contacting HP Home & Home Office Sales Chat and welcome to our Back-to-school Sale. My name is Michka.
11:28:01 AM : Michka D.: Can you please rephrase your question and provide greater detail so that I can better assist you?
11:28:24 AM : Me: Yes. On your website, the HP Slatebook x2 is listed in the Specs as having an Intel HD 4000 for a GPU.
11:28:32 AM : Me: But on your HP Data Sheet, it doesn't list the HD 4000 anywhere.
11:28:38 AM : Me: Does it come with the HD 4000 or not?
11:29:26 AM : Michka D.: I'm sorry for the confusion, Me.
11:29:31 AM : Michka D.: Let me check it for you.
11:29:41 AM : Michka D.: I need to check my resources first in order to answer your question. May I place you on hold for 1-2 minutes while I check my resources?
11:29:45 AM : Me: Yes.
11:30:01 AM : Michka D.: Thank you.
11:33:21 AM : Michka D.: I appreciate your patience, I want to ensure I’m getting you exactly what you need. It will just be another minute or two. Thank you for your understanding.
11:33:29 AM : Me: No problem.
11:37:56 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for your patience.
11:38:36 AM : Michka D.: Me, rest assure that the HP Slatebook x2 has an Intel HD Graphics 4000 in it.
11:38:47 AM : Me: Alright. Thank you very much!
11:39:46 AM : Michka D.: Thank you for informing us regarding this, I'll take note of it for them to revise the date sheet.
11:39:55 AM : Me: Thank you once again!
11:40:31 AM : Michka D.: You are welcome.
11:40:41 AM : Michka D.: Are you in the market today in purchasing the HP Slatebook x2?
11:40:48 AM : Me: Not today, but soon. Thank you!
So yes, because of Me (rofl) they will be revising their Data Sheet soon on their website!
THIS IS THE FREAKING NEWS OF THE CENTURY FOR ANDROID GAMERS!!!!
It's a typo... it will come with the regular geforce gpu
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It's a typo... it will come with the regular geforce gpu
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Not according to HP it won't.
In any case, I will be purchasing the Slatebook x2 and I will find out personally if it comes with the HD 4000.
Intel isn't the best at battery life. If it is a PC Slate.
Also, if it is an Intel chip, it EMULATES ARM code, so while it may be faster as a whole, emulating ARM might make it slower.
The whole Intel/Android marriage is too new to really know how it will work. Have fun!
I'd hold your excitement until it's actually official...chat reps are not always the most accurate sources of information.
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I'd hold your excitement until it's actually official...chat reps are not always the most accurate sources of information.
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the chat reps work through a 3rd party company. they are just reading off the spec lists. They are looking at the same typo.
player911 said:
Intel isn't the best at battery life. If it is a PC Slate.
Also, if it is an Intel chip, it EMULATES ARM code, so while it may be faster as a whole, emulating ARM might make it slower.
The whole Intel/Android marriage is too new to really know how it will work. Have fun!
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It's not a PC Slate, it's an Android slate.
It's not an Intel CPU, it's an NVIDIA Tegra 4 CPU.
It also comes with TWO batteries - one in the tablet, and one in the keyboard dock. So battery life will not be an issue.
As I said originally, I will update and let you guys know once I get my hands on one personally!
HP employee?
don't get me wrong, but the OP is totally comparing apples to oranges. Sad that HP has resorted to this type of marketing, as clearly the OP is an employee of the company. Wonder if he has posted over on the Nexus 10 forum the same thing?
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It's not a PC Slate, it's an Android slate.
It's not an Intel CPU, it's an NVIDIA Tegra 4 CPU.
It also comes with TWO batteries - one in the tablet, and one in the keyboard dock. So battery life will not be an issue.
As I said originally, I will update and let you guys know once I get my hands on one personally!
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I thought HP dropped out of the tablet market? If it is a Tegra 4, I don't see it having an intel 4000 chipset. Isnt the Tegra4 CPU/GPU married together?
So it's basically a new Asus Transformer?