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It's been troubling my mind for a while, so I'll say it here. S7 feels kind of disappointing. Why kind of? Because it's a great phone, but with a lot of nuisances.
I upgraded (or moved) from LG G4 after hardware failure and my first impressions are rather luke warm. Let's split it into categories:
Design:
This is where S7 absolutely smashes G4 to pieces. S7 is really beautiful (although M7 is still my favourite) and G4 is, well, it tries, but is still ugly.
Ergonomy:
I love the smaller display, but the phone itself doesnt seem as ergonomic as G4. The rear buttons on G4 are great. Once I got used to them, I really miss them even after a month with S7. Also typing while lying is uncomfortable, which is something I never experienced with G4, but I really like having hardware buttons on S7.
Performance:
This one is a little sketchy. Although the phone doesnt freeze and switches apps really fast, the whole experience is not that excellent. Sometimes the display doesnt seem as responsive as it should (especially compared to Apple's exagerrated sensitivity) and the Briefing thing is just garbage. It lags and stutters every time you swipe from home screen to Briefing. This is not acceptable on any flagship in 2016. HTC had similar thing called BlinkFeed and it never, and I really mean it, never lagged. The whole phone just seemed more responsive. Even compared to G4.
Other than that, this phone is really fast.
Camera:
The camera is a mixed bag as well. On one hand, you get the amazing autofocus and almost instant camera launch, but on the other hand you get only 12 MPx and aggressive software sharpening. Don't get me wrong, 12MPx is plenty enough unless you want to zoom and see the details, plus shots in low light seem not that great. It just somehow feel like the camera isn't even an upgrade over G4, especially in low light. Haven't tried RAW capture, though. The pictures are usually great, but the upgrade over G4 seems very minor if there's some. Of course, this is all subjective and if I had G4 with me now, the S7 would probably win 3 out of 4 shots.
Front camera is worse though. The camera cannot focus on the whole picture and the edges are usually blurry, despite having subjects that are in the same distance from the lens as the subject in focus. Plus G4 had 8MPx, while S7 has only 5. Yeah, I know, there are more important things than resolution, but G4's front camera just felt better.
Overall quality:
Samsung should really work on quality control. Even if we say that Note's faulty batteries are not directly Samsung's fault, design of S7 is. I had mine 2 days. I repeat, 2 days, when it got stuck at boot. What was the problem? Motherboard. On a brand new phone that's never been dropped. And I was not alone, according to people on the Internet. The thing that bothers me is, if you cannot compete with Apple's build quality and customer care, don't compete so close to their price level. Yeah, I know. Samsung offers much more in terms of hardware at lower price than Apple, but in real life, you scarcely know the difference and the quality is just not there yet.
Other thing is wifi signal strength. With my plastic G4, I had good enough wifi signal in my bed, with S7 I can't usually even see the network. Same goes for other parts of house. G4 could connect everywhere, while I can only wish for that in S7.
Okay, to be fair. I really like this phone, but I was disappointed that it didn't feel like an upgrade over older and much cheaper phone.
What are your opinions on this? Anyone feels similarly, or did I just expect too much?
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It's been troubling my mind for a while, so I'll say it here. S7 feels kind of disappointing. Why kind of? Because it's a great phone, but with a lot of nuisances.
I upgraded (or moved) from LG G4 after hardware failure and my first impressions are rather luke warm. Let's split it into categories:
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I did the same switch a couple of weeks ago and it feels like a whole different world! The G4 wasn’t bad, and I had no bootloop problems like many others but the speed of the S7 is amazing! I can’t detect a SINGLE stutter and the gaming speed is out of this world, like always buttery smooth. The Snapdragon 808 of the G4 was no speed monster!
The display is really the biggest reason for the switch as I see it. There is no way I am going back to lcd now that I know that black can really be BLACK with amoled and not gray as with lcd. The white has a better clean look to it also. Over all it’s just like candy for your eyes!
The camera on the G4 is on the other hand in some ways better than the S7, mostly in low light situations. But the speed of the S7 camera, both start and focus, beats the G4 by miles. I think that the daylight photos in most cases looks better with the S7 to.
Here in Sweden the performance of the S7 with mobile network both LTE and WCDMA is just as good as the G4 if not better. I have the exact same coverage with my WiFi connections as I had with the G4.
And it’s the Exynos version as I live in Europe.
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I did the same switch a couple of weeks ago and it feels like a whole different world! The G4 wasn’t bad, and I had no bootloop problems like many others but the speed of the S7 is amazing! I can’t detect a SINGLE stutter and the gaming speed is out of this world, like always buttery smooth. The Snapdragon 808 of the G4 was no speed monster!
The display is really the biggest reason for the switch as I see it. There is no way I am going back to lcd now that I know that black can really be BLACK with amoled and not gray as with lcd. The white has a better clean look to it also. Over all it’s just like candy for your eyes!
The camera on the G4 is on the other hand in some ways better than the S7, mostly in low light situations. But the speed of the S7 camera, both start and focus, beats the G4 by miles. I think that the daylight photos in most cases looks better with the S7 to.
Here in Sweden the performance of the S7 with mobile network both LTE and WCDMA is just as good as the G4 if not better. I have the exact same coverage with my WiFi connections as I had with the G4.
And it’s the Exynos version as I live in Europe.
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The stutters and delay are most obvious on homescreen when you try to swipe to the Briefing screen. I'm not saying the phone is not fast, but it just doesn't feel as smooth as, let's say an iPhone. Plus the delay when you press home button is a little annoying (if you disable double press for camera launch, it reacts immediately, but it's not worth the convenience of quick camera launch). Yeah, that's true that 808 wasn't the fastest processor out there, but G4 was at least as smooth as S7, though not as fast.
But I can only agree with you on the display, especially the part with black color. The other thing I just noticed is the low resolution of icons, both on homescreen and in app drawer. The icons are a bit blurry, while the text underneath those and widgets are perfectly sharp. I'm still not sure if I like TouchWiz, or whatever it is called today.
rs70 said:
The stutters and delay are most obvious on homescreen when you try to swipe to the Briefing screen. I'm not saying the phone is not fast, but it just doesn't feel as smooth as, let's say an iPhone. Plus the delay when you press home button is a little annoying (if you disable double press for camera launch, it reacts immediately, but it's not worth the convenience of quick camera launch). Yeah, that's true that 808 wasn't the fastest processor out there, but G4 was at least as smooth as S7, though not as fast.
But I can only agree with you on the display, especially the part with black color. The other thing I just noticed is the low resolution of icons, both on homescreen and in app drawer. The icons are a bit blurry, while the text underneath those and widgets are perfectly sharp. I'm still not sure if I like TouchWiz, or whatever it is called today.
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Most people install a decent launcher like Nova Launcher to replace the TouchWiz homescreen
I have double press home to open camera, and get no delay pressing home once
I never use the homepages supplied by the phone makers that force feed me with crap! Thats the first thing I remove, as with the HTCs blinkfeed. The next step is to buy Nova launcher Prime or Google launcher.
Try it, you will like it!
I switched from the G4 Dual (the only one disponible here in my country), and I feel like I was using a toy phone with the G4, leather all scratched out, the screen had pink marks (reflections of already used things, it appeared without any reason) and the motherboard gone, well i had all the G series but the G4 was a big let down for me (especially the dual sim one) the S7 smashes the G4 all the way to valhalla.
I also had a g4, still in my family now. It is complete garbage compared to s7. I don't have any stutter on the s7, it's not perfect but much better than the LG. And this coming from a Samsung hater, I dislike almost all their products. The camera is overhyped on both, g4 has better details but the app is garbage, very slow and 7 out of 10 photos on auto mode are crap. The s7 camera lacks detail but it's faster and consistent. Not to talk about the display and battery life where the s7 is much much better.
I still miss the soft android buttons and the fast updates on my old nexus 5... the only reason I don't have a nexus now is the manufacturer -lg- with crap hardware and materials (not interested in the phablets)
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I never used G4 but i heard about poor battery so did not went for it. I bought Lg G5 but then sold it because camera was average though wide lense was awesome but pictures were lacking details as you zoom in....probably worse than what you see with s7. Lg G5 also had poor brightness ...I personally found nexus 6p/5X as best camera for still photography ..I kept changing phones from last few months from nexus 5x to lg g5 and then G5 to S7 and now waiting to try Huawei p9
The s7 is superior in every way, since it costs more and is newer than the G4. The only thing that the G4 beats the s7 in is the developer friendliness.
While I love and miss the LG G4 I had earlier this year, I now have a Galaxy S7 Active and from the moment I first took a picture with it I was disappointed in comparison to the G4. For me personally, from the first image I took with the G4 I knew there was something special about that camera (meaning the lens and sensor) in that smartphone and even now when I don't have one anymore that device produced the best quality image data I've yet worked with from such devices.
I know the GS7A has the same camera setup the GS7 has but even so, I just find that the G4 produced better images when all was said and done, even when using plain old Auto mode let alone really getting some fantastic images done with the Manual mode.
I like the GS7A, I really do, it has some great aspects to it and I'm happy to have a relatively "rugged" phone once again - I owned the GS4A when it first came out years ago and loved it till I sold it, was an amazing device for its time. But I'm practically itching to find someone to trade a G4 for this GS7A (and maybe a few bucks thrown in on the deal considering the GS7A sells for $794 at AT&T and I could get a G4 practically new for ~$200 these days).
I miss the G4, I really do, and I miss what I could do with that camera on the G4 even more - if I could get one of the new ones that (apparently) has finally resolved the bootloop issue (think they're marked as 603 or something meaning March 2016 build date) I might actually do a trade with someone.
opps. nevermind.
I also upgraded from my LG G4 after it died, to the S7. I've only had it for a short while but so far I think it's a worthy upgrade. The only things I'm missing are the FM radio and IR blaster, but I can live without these.
Maybe Samsung will bring back the FM radio like they did the microSD card slot.
Used a G4 for a year, the S7 since last spring.
I can say that I got equally good camera shots in all conditions as far as I can tell. I know what the reviews show, but picture quality is negligent for me. Camera is much faster on the S7.
I miss the back buttons and the tap to turn on the screen in the G4. I also miss the larger screen.
With the S7, I love the amoled, and outside viewing is much much better. I found the automatic brightness of the G4 to be terrible, and in the S7 it works great.
Battery life on the S7 has been better for me, but it's hard for me to compare fairly as I have a few wireless chargers that I pop the S7 on throughout the day, so I am topping up without thinking about it much.
Water resistance has been brilliant for me too. While I have not dropped my phone in water, I use it in the rain regularly.
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My LG G4 also broke last week due to bootlop of death; not under warranty because of unlocked bootloader.
I would like to buy a new one (can be found in stores for about 310 EUR) but I'm afraid that bootlop could happen again, so decided to leave LG (V20 will not arrive in Europe) and to go for a plain S7.
I loved my G4, buttons on the back were great to use.
Camera was impressive; many friends with "better" handphones were stunned seeing pictures taken at night (manual mode).
Main concern is downgrading from 5.5' to 5.1'; when I got the G4 the screen seemed huge, but after some time you ged used to it and quality was also ok for my tastes.
Let's see how the S7 will perform; my old S3 was a good phone after all...
Can you plese tell if the battery is removeable or not ? I have read different opinions about. My concern is that in certain occasions (flashing...) the software reset (Pwr+VolDwn) could not work and lead to a mess. Removing the battery is often the best thing that helps...
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@sandrinopi The s7 has no removable battery. It's built in. However,pressing the power button for some seconds results also to a restart.
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sloany84 said:
I also upgraded from my LG G4 after it died, to the S7. I've only had it for a short while but so far I think it's a worthy upgrade. The only things I'm missing are the FM radio and IR blaster, but I can live without these.
Maybe Samsung will bring back the FM radio like they did the microSD card slot.
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S7 does have fm
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Not on European versions, where FM radio is not factory installed.
If I correctly understood a couple of articles I read, the unique attempt that one can do is to install an FM radio app from Play store and cross fingers.
Rgds
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TheSproker said:
The s7 is superior in every way, since it costs more and is newer than the G4. The only thing that the G4 beats the s7 in is the developer friendliness.
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Marketers dream of customers who define superiority by highest cost. There are many of us who think developer friendless is the single most important factor. I think the S7 is a horrible phone and a very poor value. I'm glad my teenage son enjoys the one I purchased because I would have sold it within days of buying it if it were my phone.
I am on the fence between the Pixel LX and the LG V20. I know there are different phones. The reson I am considering these two is for the features and also the root able and Volte.
Any suggestion or comments that will help me in my decisions?
I will be on T-mobil network
Thanks
I love the V20 which has more capabilities than Pixel XL which I also own and am returning.
Just visit and read the Pixel threads to help with your decision.
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V20 is pretty smooth. Not always quite as smooth as the Pixel XL is, but very, very close. I've only been using the V20 for 24 hours, and I miss the Pixel XL in some ways, and not in others.
-The V20 definitely is the more capable phone. Tons of features. The Pixels are just plain boring - they work great, but lack anything special.
-I miss the AMOLED screen, but love having a 5.7" screen again on the V20 (coming from Note7 and 6P) - it's a dramatic difference, exacerbated by the additional top ticker display. If you love, love punchy color that is nowhere near accurate/realistic, the V20 display will disappoint you if you've used AMOLED before. But I actually use my Pixel XL in sRGB mode. The V20 is slightly, slightly more saturated, but extremely cold with its whites. I have to use the night-time comfort view set to medium 24/7 to get anywhere near an accurate, warm white. Personal taste here. Qualcomm is supposed to have some TruPallate thing built in that changes saturation/color temp based on your environment - I've yet to see anything from this.
-Camera comparison is a bit of a wash. The Pixels have much better dynamic range, and better selfie detail, but the V20 typically has more detail overall (due to being 16MP - not always the case though!) The V20 also has the best camera app and manual control, bar none, if you're into that. And it has an always-ready wide angle camera, which few, few people will ever have access to.
-Great sound quality in terms of output and recording. The Pixels are meh. I have audible noise with my $1,000 IEMs on the Pixel XL. The V20 is crystal clear.
-Not much to comment on in terms of battery life. I don't expect much from the V20 with its smaller cell and larger display, but I had bugs on the Pixel causing CPU times to be insane giving me garbage battery life.
-Power button/fingerprint scanner on the V20 is kind of ****, at least how it feels. Without a case, it's hard to find. The button feels cheap when you press it, as do the volume keys. But my Pixel's power button has QC issues too - it sticks, badly. The V20's scanner is mostly just as fast though, which is great. Sometimes it misses or reacts a little slower to the way I land my finger on it, possibly because it's a smaller sensor than the Pixel (and I'm not using a case on the V20 yet which makes it harder to find), but it's probably the best FP scanner I've used other than the Pixel's.
-Haven't really tested sunlight legibility yet, but the V20 will get brighter than the Pixel XL out of the box. If you root and use a kernel to activate the Pixel's HBM, it is brighter than the V20. I imagine the Pixel XL is fairly better in sunlight due to this, and its less reflective display.
-Pixel XL seems to have a better speaker.
-V20 has a much brighter camera flash for pictures, but slightly dimmer flashlight (at least the built in one - could be modified probably with root). The Pixel XL's camera flash is much better for color reproduction and skin tones though.
I really can't decide between the 2 phones. If the Note7 were still around, and actually a good performer, it'd be in my hands still. The V20 would have been perfect to me if it had an AMOLED display. But don't be mistaken, it's a great phone and actually gives you some features for your money. The Pixels are like iPhones... they just work, really really well, and that's about it. And the days of that being a huge advantage are coming to an end with Android OEMs finally maturing with their software optimization.
Settings/Developer Options/Tick on "Force GPU Rendering should make Android phone smoother/snappier!
If root available try L Speed/Entropy/fstrim apps found on Play Store!
LG V20 & LG G5 are snappy beasts and are well optimised with the Snapdragon 820 and is better than Samsung!
I wished that LG could have waited little more that it could have had the Snapdragon 821!
The Qualcomm website states that Snapdragon 821 fixes scrolling performance?
Is SD 820 bad sometimes? SD 810 & SD 808 is of course laggy sometimes!
Can't wait for next version of Snapdragon which might be SD 835 [830 might be skipped] Bring on LG G6 & LG V30! They should give battery life of 5 hours within 5 minutes of charge! Qualcomm Quick Charge 4.0
Also lag free & superior performance!
Yes, yes, it's possible to love a phone. Heck, you sleep next to it, don't you? Rate this thread to indicate your love for the LG V30, all things considered. A higher rating indicates that the LG V30 is an incredible phone that you enjoy tremendously. You love it.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Had the same effect on everyone as the HTC One M7, it just is consistently good across the board, and the design is a win for sure.
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.side bezels
.bad ois stabilization
+SD835,4GBram,poled hdr,mil-std,ip68,3300mah,ultra wide camera,hi-fi dac,hi-fi rec, best ergonomic size.
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Is it very noticeable? I saw it immediatelly on first reviews. Although its wider than "sausage style" s8/s8+/note it still rocks the new 18:9 apsect ratio,there those side bessels just have to be there, otherwise it would not have this very proportional look almost like 16:9 phone look, you know what i mean?
Headphone nirvana. I've run my AKG Q701's and my VModa M100's and it is spectacular. There are several adjustments in the DAC settings that play with digital filtering. Subtle changes, great results.
The 701's are ~60 ohms and used to trigger high impedance mode on my V20. The 30 seems to handle this without the fuss of a notification that it is on. These cans are a tough load. They like power. I usually drive them using an outboard dac/amp . The 30 powers them beautifully. Very musical.
The camera is nice, haven't had much time to play during daylight. I ran it with my EVO Shift gimbal. Unfortunately the EVO doesn't support the vast control the 30 offers.
Going to Kauai Hawaii next week....Look for my update
beautiful phone, still have some problem with screen color in lowlight and main camera need improve in lowlight, EIS. All other thing is good.
Fortunately I have no screen banding, performance is on par with my S7 Edge, although still not quite up to part with my Pixel XL. Pixel requires less frequent reboots for performance related issues in my experience.
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beautiful phone, still have some problem with screen color in lowlight and main camera need improve in lowlight, EIS. All other thing is good.
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COuld you describe the screen problem, lets say in image or video ?
Thank you !
I love using my phone. Especially now that the battery life is so great. I get tired of being on my phone before the battery runs out. It's amazing!
Absolutely love it. Best phone I ever had and in my opinion and in 2018 still one of the best phones on the market. Bought it for 450Fr.- (=450$ more or less) this summer. What an amazing deal.
Symmetrical design with small bezels, good screen, good performance, amazing audio quality, VR capable, outstanding battery life. Fingerprint scanner, face unlock, double tap to wake. It's all there, nothing is missing for my needs.
For me personally there are basically no negatives.
Really awesome mobile
Fantastic phone. Oreo on this phone is really well implemented.
3 days on my new phone.
I come from an xperia z3 that had 1hr sot or 70% drain in 5hrs idle so...at the moment it's very hard not to be happy about this purchase
Great phone overall, the main camera is crazy good, long battery life!
Man. MAN. I switched from At&t to Sprint and converted my US998 to a LS998 V30+. Now I have VoWiFi, VoLTE and RCS messaging and fast LTE. What I am trying to say is, get a phone carrier that does your phone justice and you will like your phone more than before. Especially after you root and install Adaway and tweak RAM management. I have no desire to even switch to Pie anymore at least not until my H2OS theme is supported. Gcam shows the power of the camera. I get incredible night photos.
Great hardware and features, but absolutely unacceptable support. LG basically sells you the hardware, but zero support for security patches, even critical ones. I have a US998 that hasn’t received a security patch since March 2018.
This is my last LG product.
I certainly feel like LG has put a damper on this phone with their additions to theyre OS overlay. I switched to this phone from my Moto Z2 force since i needed the band 71 LTE while traveling, and I gotta say, this phone sucks... Nothing but constant hiccups and lags in browsing the web and switching apps.
I cant blame the hardware since my 1.5 years of using the Moto z2 - which has the same hardware - never gave me a reason to hate on it. It was buttery smooth since all the way till the end.
I am disappointed with LG
Yep my main device have a few to pick from a poco f1, Asus Zen phone 3 ultra, LG g6, LG v20 us996 LG v30+128gb
LG v30 is my daly driver.
They seem pretty competitive hardware wise (845 SD SOC versions for both). However, I was trying to weigh out overall user experience, software, and just first hand user experiences(are you happy with your decision? Would you still take the V35 over the S9+ given the chance today?)
When it comes to the LG V35's advantages I consider:
-Quad DAC (Huge plus for me, I use the V20 and thoroughly enjoy the high quality DAC and built in amplification)
-Current Price (seems to be dropping quite a bit)
Concerns I would have the LG V35:
-Timely software updates from LG(then again Samsung is not that much better in this aspect either)
-Long term Developer support... I respect and like the V35, however it is kind of a more niche/rarer phone, whereas the popular phones with a huge user base usually attracts more developers in the community for that phone.... I like to run the phone stock, but it's nice to have the option of continued support/upgrades through the community when the OEM drops support.
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What do you guys say? Any annoyances with the phone? Any deal breakers? Or... any note worthy praise for the phone? Anything to know? I'd love to hear a user's advice/first hand experience.
TIA
I've had every G series phone since the LG G2. The LG G4 was the worst as you know...
I sold the S9, not plus, back in Sept to buy the AT&T LG V35. I disliked the Samsung curved edge screen.
The V35 battery and DAC are great. Software updates are slow but it's too be expected from LG. I wish they kept the headphone jack on the bottom of the phone but I can live.
If you're going to run it stock it'll run smoothly especially after you debloat it.
I no longer care about flashing as it coincides with games not working if I don't use a work around. We'd need an unlocked blootloader anyways.
Hope this helps
I came from a Pixel XL. It died a month or so ago. I'm on Google Fi and got the V35 for $500 ($700 minus a $200 service credit). Years ago I had a G2 and liked it a lot. I'm a little discouraged by the length of time updates take. On the Pixel XL they came first. I got Android Pie last October. Security fixes came out the first week of the month they were released. Not with LG. I just got the February security fix in late March. LG said that Android Pie would be leased for the V35 in the first quarter of 2019. Today is the last day of that quarter. I doubt it will come out today. But really, does it matter? The incremental changes are nice to have but quite small. Even from going from Oreo to Pie. As for developers, I rooted my G2 but I don't think it is really necessary now. Getting the V35 for half the price of a S9+ did it for me.
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They seem pretty competitive hardware wise (845 SD SOC versions for both). However, I was trying to weigh out overall user experience, software, and just first hand user experiences(are you happy with your decision? Would you still take the V35 over the S9+ given the chance today?)
When it comes to the LG V35's advantages I consider:
-Quad DAC (Huge plus for me, I use the V20 and thoroughly enjoy the high quality DAC and built in amplification)
-Current Price (seems to be dropping quite a bit)
Concerns I would have the LG V35:
-Timely software updates from LG(then again Samsung is not that much better in this aspect either)
-Long term Developer support... I respect and like the V35, however it is kind of a more niche/rarer phone, whereas the popular phones with a huge user base usually attracts more developers in the community for that phone.... I like to run the phone stock, but it's nice to have the option of continued support/upgrades through the community when the OEM drops support.
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TIA
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I would go with the samsung s9 plus.
I've owned the lg v30 (basically the same as the v35) for almost a year, then switched to the s9 for 2 months, switched back to the v30 for 1 month and I'm now using the s10 for a month now.
I loved my v30 but going back from the s9 to the v30 you realise samsung is in a league of its own. Its little details and annoyances but I'll sum some up.
What i love about the v30:
- design: I like the look of the v30 better. Gorgeous phone.
- love the v30 flat screen with minimal side bezels. Curved edges are annoying.
- double tap to turn the screen off and the knock code unlock are great software features i used alot.
- wide angle camera is awesome. Love it.
What i like better on the s9:
- screen: oleophobic coating on the s9 is way better. On the lg the smudges are very visible and they shift colors. Its visible when watching videos. On the samsung no such issues.
- screen itself: going back from s9 to v30 you do notice that the samsung amoled screen is better. If you've never had a samsung you wont realise it but going back you definitely do.
- camera: samsung s9 definitely better. Maybe the v30 can be great on manual mode but how many times do you actually use that. Its so much work.
On auto-mode the s9 photos look way better. Also at night. Shutter speed is wayyy faster on the s9 which also helps with getting sharp photos when the subject is moving,
Autofocus is also way better on the s9. Lg v30 photos have a higher risk of getting a crappy/blurred photo. Especially when the subject is moving. On paper the lg v30 camera looks great but in real life the s9 is alot better. Same goes for video. Im not a movie creator that edits all his videos and color grades them. Im a point and shoot guy and the s9 looks way better.
- front camera: Lg v30 front camera looks like its from the year 2014...... worst front camera on modern phone.
- samsung s9 has stereo speakers and Lg doesnt
- In my country samsung waranty is wayyyy better than lg.
- Samsung software works great. Samsung OneUi feels and looks very nice. Lg v30 feels very basic. Its fast and ok but i prefer samsung.
Also LG updates are very slow, still has not released android pie update.
- audio: quaddac on the v30 is awesome but honestly the s9 audio quality is also good. And the quaddac is actually only really useful when having very expensive quality headphones.
When you use regular good headphones you wont really notice anything.
-Also I noticed i started using bluetooth headphones and also use spotify, so the quaddac is useless for me.
Price: dont know where you live but the s9 plus is also cheaper here, maybe not as cheap as the v30 but i still rather have the s9 plus.
Ow and if you use snapchat, definitely get the s9 plus lol. The LG photos in snapchat are really bad. App is not optimised for LG.
So to sum it all up. If you want a great phone with the least annoyances and thats good at everything, get the s9 plus. Its a complete phone that can last you for years.
Valinorian said:
I would go with the samsung s9 plus.
I've owned the lg v30 (basically the same as the v35) for almost a year, then switched to the s9 for 2 months, switched back to the v30 for 1 month and I'm now using the s10 for a month now.
I loved my v30 but going back from the s9 to the v30 you realise samsung is in a league of its own. Its little details and annoyances but I'll sum some up.
What i love about the v30:
- design: I like the look of the v30 better. Gorgeous phone.
- love the v30 flat screen with minimal side bezels. Curved edges are annoying.
- double tap to turn the screen off and the knock code unlock are great software features i used alot.
- wide angle camera is awesome. Love it.
What i like better on the s9:
- screen: oleophobic coating on the s9 is way better. On the lg the smudges are very visible and they shift colors. Its visible when watching videos. On the samsung no such issues.
- screen itself: going back from s9 to v30 you do notice that the samsung amoled screen is better. If you've never had a samsung you wont realise it but going back you definitely do.
- camera: samsung s9 definitely better. Maybe the v30 can be great on manual mode but how many times do you actually use that. Its so much work.
On auto-mode the s9 photos look way better. Also at night. Shutter speed is wayyy faster on the s9 which also helps with getting sharp photos when the subject is moving,
Autofocus is also way better on the s9. Lg v30 photos have a higher risk of getting a crappy/blurred photo. Especially when the subject is moving. On paper the lg v30 camera looks great but in real life the s9 is alot better. Same goes for video. Im not a movie creator that edits all his videos and color grades them. Im a point and shoot guy and the s9 looks way better.
- front camera: Lg v30 front camera looks like its from the year 2014...... worst front camera on modern phone.
- samsung s9 has stereo speakers and Lg doesnt
- In my country samsung waranty is wayyyy better than lg.
- Samsung software works great. Samsung OneUi feels and looks very nice. Lg v30 feels very basic. Its fast and ok but i prefer samsung.
Also LG updates are very slow, still has not released android pie update.
- audio: quaddac on the v30 is awesome but honestly the s9 audio quality is also good. And the quaddac is actually only really useful when having very expensive quality headphones.
When you use regular good headphones you wont really notice anything.
-Also I noticed i started using bluetooth headphones and also use spotify, so the quaddac is useless for me.
Price: dont know where you live but the s9 plus is also cheaper here, maybe not as cheap as the v30 but i still rather have the s9 plus.
Ow and if you use snapchat, definitely get the s9 plus lol. The LG photos in snapchat are really bad. App is not optimised for LG.
So to sum it all up. If you want a great phone with the least annoyances and thats good at everything, get the s9 plus. Its a complete phone that can last you for years.
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Thanks for that detailed response. Sums up my concerns, but you broke it down and mentioned the specifics first hand, appreciate it. I have a V20 and the front facing camera is pretty bad as well, I can't believe how over exposed it looks and how the details are filtered out, sad thing is, it's all processed in to make the person look more "prettier" but it just looks too fake.
smartnphone said:
I've had every G series phone since the LG G2. The LG G4 was the worst as you know...
I sold the S9, not plus, back in Sept to buy the AT&T LG V35. I disliked the Samsung curved edge screen.
The V35 battery and DAC are great. Software updates are slow but it's too be expected from LG. I wish they kept the headphone jack on the bottom of the phone but I can live.
If you're going to run it stock it'll run smoothly especially after you debloat it.
I no longer care about flashing as it coincides with games not working if I don't use a work around. We'd need an unlocked blootloader anyways.
Hope this helps
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rklurfeld said:
I came from a Pixel XL. It died a month or so ago. I'm on Google Fi and got the V35 for $500 ($700 minus a $200 service credit). Years ago I had a G2 and liked it a lot. I'm a little discouraged by the length of time updates take. On the Pixel XL they came first. I got Android Pie last October. Security fixes came out the first week of the month they were released. Not with LG. I just got the February security fix in late March. LG said that Android Pie would be leased for the V35 in the first quarter of 2019. Today is the last day of that quarter. I doubt it will come out today. But really, does it matter? The incremental changes are nice to have but quite small. Even from going from Oreo to Pie. As for developers, I rooted my G2 but I don't think it is really necessary now. Getting the V35 for half the price of a S9+ did it for me.
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I appreciate the responses and feedback from you guys. I suppose the lack of an unlocked bootloader is something to consider, though as it usually goes, it's usually just a matter of time until it gets unlocked(safe to assume?), then again going back to the "niche" of the V35, it's such a rare phone with somewhat significant updates(SD 845 with 6GB of RAM is pretty decent) to keep it relevant, though it was kind of like a knee-jerk reaction too. Reminds me of "AGILE" manufacturing, haha, which I'm sure took place behind the scenes. For the current prices that I see it for, it's gotten my attention, and I haven't written it off yet, but I'm not in a rush to get a new phone just yet, still researching and who knows, the V40 might drop even further( I really appreciate that nice boombox speaker they put in there).
edit: reading through the forums I see that runningnak3d is working on unlocking the bootloader, so looks like there will be some developer support afterall, which can give users an option to keep their phones updated, even if LG decides to stop giving updates.
I just got the V35 last week. Great device, highly recommended for the low price. Other reasons to pick LG over Samsung is Quickcharge 3.0 and wide angle camera. LG phones are underrated because reviewers assume retail price. But if you wait at least a few months after release date then LG devices are way, way cheaper. As far as software updates go both LG and Samsung are pretty bad. If timely Android updates matter best bets are either Pixel or OnePlus.
Valinorian said:
I would go with the samsung s9 plus.
I've owned the lg v30 (basically the same as the v35) for almost a year, then switched to the s9 for 2 months, switched back to the v30 for 1 month and I'm now using the s10 for a month now.
I loved my v30 but going back from the s9 to the v30 you realise samsung is in a league of its own. Its little details and annoyances but I'll sum some up.
What i love about the v30:
- design: I like the look of the v30 better. Gorgeous phone.
- love the v30 flat screen with minimal side bezels. Curved edges are annoying.
- double tap to turn the screen off and the knock code unlock are great software features i used alot.
- wide angle camera is awesome. Love it.
What i like better on the s9:
- screen: oleophobic coating on the s9 is way better. On the lg the smudges are very visible and they shift colors. Its visible when watching videos. On the samsung no such issues.
- screen itself: going back from s9 to v30 you do notice that the samsung amoled screen is better. If you've never had a samsung you wont realise it but going back you definitely do.
- camera: samsung s9 definitely better. Maybe the v30 can be great on manual mode but how many times do you actually use that. Its so much work.
On auto-mode the s9 photos look way better. Also at night. Shutter speed is wayyy faster on the s9 which also helps with getting sharp photos when the subject is moving,
Autofocus is also way better on the s9. Lg v30 photos have a higher risk of getting a crappy/blurred photo. Especially when the subject is moving. On paper the lg v30 camera looks great but in real life the s9 is alot better. Same goes for video. Im not a movie creator that edits all his videos and color grades them. Im a point and shoot guy and the s9 looks way better.
- front camera: Lg v30 front camera looks like its from the year 2014...... worst front camera on modern phone.
- samsung s9 has stereo speakers and Lg doesnt
- In my country samsung waranty is wayyyy better than lg.
- Samsung software works great. Samsung OneUi feels and looks very nice. Lg v30 feels very basic. Its fast and ok but i prefer samsung.
Also LG updates are very slow, still has not released android pie update.
- audio: quaddac on the v30 is awesome but honestly the s9 audio quality is also good. And the quaddac is actually only really useful when having very expensive quality headphones.
When you use regular good headphones you wont really notice anything.
-Also I noticed i started using bluetooth headphones and also use spotify, so the quaddac is useless for me.
Price: dont know where you live but the s9 plus is also cheaper here, maybe not as cheap as the v30 but i still rather have the s9 plus.
Ow and if you use snapchat, definitely get the s9 plus lol. The LG photos in snapchat are really bad. App is not optimised for LG.
So to sum it all up. If you want a great phone with the least annoyances and thats good at everything, get the s9 plus. Its a complete phone that can last you for years.
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Isn't the V35 better than the V30? Are you comparing the S9 to the V30 or V35? I'm sure it would make a difference?
ScottsoNJ said:
Isn't the V35 better than the V30? Are you comparing the S9 to the V30 or V35? I'm sure it would make a difference?
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Differences
- V35 has snapdragon 845 vs snapdragon 835 on V30
- Ram is 6gb on V35 vs 4gb on V30
- Wide angle camera is 16mp vs 13mp (main camera is exactly the same)
- Front Camera is better indeed.
Those are the differences.
If you read my experience, all the things i like the s9 better have not changed like screen and main camera and UI.
I did not complain about overall performance so snapdragon 845 and 6gb is great but snapdragon 835 with 4g was also good.
Same with wide angle, its better on v35 but I was allready happy with it, its in my positive list.
Only negative point in my v30 comparison is the front camera and that they did change so yes I cant compare that, I hope its way better now.
But what I do know is that samsung s9 has a great front camera also.
Valinorian said:
Differences
- V35 has snapdragon 845 vs snapdragon 835 on V30
- Ram is 6gb on V35 vs 4gb on V30
- Wide angle camera is 16mp vs 13mp (main camera is exactly the same)
- Front Camera is better indeed.
Those are the differences.
If you read my experience, all the things i like the s9 better have not changed like screen and main camera and UI.
I did not complain about overall performance so snapdragon 845 and 6gb is great but snapdragon 835 with 4g was also good.
Same with wide angle, its better on v35 but I was allready happy with it, its in my positive list.
Only negative point in my v30 comparison is the front camera and that they did change so yes I cant compare that, I hope its way better now.
But what I do know is that samsung s9 has a great front camera also.
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Screen is supposed to be better on the V35 vs the V30. LG had inconsistent quality screens on the V30, if you got a good one it was great but many did not. Regarding the main camera, the V35 is supposed to have the same one as the G7. I don't know how much better the G7 camera is vs the V30, though.
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Screen is supposed to be better on the V35 vs the V30. LG had inconsistent quality screens on the V30, if you got a good one it was great but many did not. Regarding the main camera, the V35 is supposed to have the same one as the G7. I don't know how much better the G7 camera is vs the V30, though.
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I luckily had a good screen, one of the later "improved" ones because the V30 got released here very late.
The main camera hardware specs are the same.
Camera software: Dxomark about the LG G7 "The only image quality category that shows a marked improvement over the V30 cousin is Color."
So everything else is the same.
This was the exact switch that I made recently S9+>V35. It was more boredom with the S9+ and I absolutely regret changing phones. It's not to say that the V35 is "bad", it's just that Samsung has done well honing their skills in smartphone design, especially with regard to S-AMOLED tech. The P-OLED panel on the V35 is no comparison. I've had a decade's worth of experience with AMOLED panels and the dreaded "panel lottery", so I speak from experience - I have never seen a bad panel on an S9...it's not to say they don't exist, but i've never seen one. LG's P-OLED tech is about on par with Samsung's AMOLED tech from maybe 5 years ago. I was unlucky and got a screen that's blue on the bottom and pink on top, of course the colors shift at even minute angle differences, so it depends how you hold it. Looking straight on it's distracting, but i'm just going to live with it vs. sending it back and being stuck without a phone for a week or two. All OLED panels have color shift to some degree, but it's much, much less noticeable on Samsung's most recent screens from what I can tell. If panel quality is high on your list, you might be disappointed with the V35.
Camera is another issue, compared to the S9 it isn't good. Zoomed in there's less detail, more noise, more purple fringing, and what seems like less ability to deal with very contrast heavy scenes. Dynamic range isn't the camera's strong suit. The wide angle lens to me is far more useful than the telephoto unit on the S9, but all things considered i'd rather have the better photos. As someone else mentioned, in auto mode it's harder to get a clear photo. With the S9, day or night, auto seems to almost always yield a good photo.
The DAC is nice, sound quality is excellent, but for me that's ultimately secondary, and nowhere near important enough to overlook the other flaws. The last of the main 3 being the software. I briefly had a G6 a couple years ago and i'm not sure why that experience faded from memory the way it did, but going back to LG's take on Android is a good reminder to stay away in the future. Again, it's not that it's "bad" per se, it's just that Samsung has so much of a better handle on making the OS usable and the features relevant. Little things like swipe gestures are absent on the V35 (hides nav buttons, swipe up in place for back/home/recents). There are other little additions Samsung adds that LG doesn't and I miss them. I'm not sure if Pie will bring dark backgrounds to the V35, if it does that will be a nice bonus. LG provides a "high contrast" mode, but for whatever reason it's just not as nice looking as the "night mode" option on the S9. The stereo speakers also make a very nice difference on the S9. The single speaker on the V35 is excellent for what it is.
I suspect I'll hold onto it until the S10 falls in price some, and then go back to Samsung.
kgbeezr1 said:
This was the exact switch that I made recently S9+>V35. It was more boredom with the S9+ and I absolutely regret changing phones. It's not to say that the V35 is "bad", it's just that Samsung has done well honing their skills in smartphone design, especially with regard to S-AMOLED tech. The P-OLED panel on the V35 is no comparison. I've had a decade's worth of experience with AMOLED panels and the dreaded "panel lottery", so I speak from experience - I have never seen a bad panel on an S9...it's not to say they don't exist, but i've never seen one. LG's P-OLED tech is about on par with Samsung's AMOLED tech from maybe 5 years ago. I was unlucky and got a screen that's blue on the bottom and pink on top, of course the colors shift at even minute angle differences, so it depends how you hold it. Looking straight on it's distracting, but i'm just going to live with it vs. sending it back and being stuck without a phone for a week or two. All OLED panels have color shift to some degree, but it's much, much less noticeable on Samsung's most recent screens from what I can tell. If panel quality is high on your list, you might be disappointed with the V35.
Camera is another issue, compared to the S9 it isn't good. Zoomed in there's less detail, more noise, more purple fringing, and what seems like less ability to deal with very contrast heavy scenes. Dynamic range isn't the camera's strong suit. The wide angle lens to me is far more useful than the telephoto unit on the S9, but all things considered i'd rather have the better photos. As someone else mentioned, in auto mode it's harder to get a clear photo. With the S9, day or night, auto seems to almost always yield a good photo.
The DAC is nice, sound quality is excellent, but for me that's ultimately secondary, and nowhere near important enough to overlook the other flaws. The last of the main 3 being the software. I briefly had a G6 a couple years ago and i'm not sure why that experience faded from memory the way it did, but going back to LG's take on Android is a good reminder to stay away in the future. Again, it's not that it's "bad" per se, it's just that Samsung has so much of a better handle on making the OS usable and the features relevant. Little things like swipe gestures are absent on the V35 (hides nav buttons, swipe up in place for back/home/recents). There are other little additions Samsung adds that LG doesn't and I miss them. I'm not sure if Pie will bring dark backgrounds to the V35, if it does that will be a nice bonus. LG provides a "high contrast" mode, but for whatever reason it's just not as nice looking as the "night mode" option on the S9. The stereo speakers also make a very nice difference on the S9. The single speaker on the V35 is excellent for what it is.
I suspect I'll hold onto it until the S10 falls in price some, and then go back to Samsung.
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Well said.:good:
DAC and price, the reason I got the v35 and v30.
Lg v35 ia way good then s9+. U get the extra features like DAC, Great OLED, great battery etc. I Know lg is very bad when it comes to the software updates but trust me u will be not happy with s9+. I had a s9+ but i was npt happy with that. Then i purchased a v35 and v40. I'm so happy with my two favorite phones
I'm highly surprised by the battery life so far. The phone seems snappy, and the camera is amazing ?
So far after 18 hours of battery and 4 hours of screen on time I'm at 41%.
Things to note:
1: the Moto z4 has a good camera from what I've seen (haven't ever tested the pixel though) night mode is fantastic, and the 25MP front shooter is beautiful and fast. Camera app seems snappy to me.
2: battery life has been long as hell. With use, the battery lasts forever. Music, reading, Facebook messenger, Snapchat, web browser; location and data on at all times.
3: software experience seems very snappy, and I love the Moto actions. Moto peek display is fun, and Google's hotword works better even when screen off than I had expected.
4: sound quality is great, sadly the Aux sound doesn't seem as good as my old LG V30 but the Phones speaker is very loud, and sounds good with Aux anyway. No Dolby, or Dac.
5: the fingerprint scanner can be finicky, and I have found that it has to do with if there is like dust on the screen or not. Either way, the scanner I like to use anyway, it's fun.
6: sadly the Mods do have a tiny edge feeling when attached, but that's not a big deal to me. I plan on getting quite a few of the Mods though!
7: the screen is absolutely crisp, and Crystal clear. Goes really dim, and doesn't seem bad in the sun.
8: there seems to be a slight deadspot/slow reaction on each edge of the screen. Whenever typing, it's snappy but when long pressing the side keys to get a character it takes a few milliseconds for the phone to recognize the input lol.
I'll add more later if requested or comes to mind
Phones I've had: LG Optimus v, htc one s, Moto x pure, OnePlus 5, Galaxy s9, LG V30, Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, LG Optimus G, Optimus G pro, Samsung Galaxy S4, Zenfone 2 Lazer. No specific order
I second the op I love in an area with crap signal and still get excellent battery life.. I've disabled a ton of the gapps though and use davx for syncing contacts and calendar (I used to use miceog) I haven't signed into a Google account and it pisses me off that play store updates without my permission! I don't have a Google account on for Pete's sake.
Overall even though mine will never see root or twep it's pretty good for a locked down device and the build quality feels like the old Droid x I owned.