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I just finished my 24 hour testing of the Nexus One for my employer and figured I would give my 2 cents worth:
1. On screen keyboard: Great, especially when used in landscape. Portrait has a bit more room side to side than the G1, and it makes it easier, but I wouldn't go so far to say in protrait it is a night and day difference. Landscape truly is, and I had no problem typing long messages in landscape mode, and using portrait for quick stuff. A physical keyboard is still a better option, IMO as a keyboard lover, but the onscreen is executed very, very well.
2. Speed/Android 2.1: I have tested some of the 2.1 ports on my G1, and as nice as they are, they do not give justice at all too what 2.1 is on a Nexus One. Blanket statement, the phone is faster and 2.1 is a great advancement. A more astute observation that I wasn't expecting, websites load much, much, much faster on the Nexus One. I didn't do an actual stop watch test, but a realistic guess says sites load about twice as fast. I am on an EDGE network where I do most of my surfing when not using WiFi... when on WiFi it was more dramatic (I actually loaded 1 site faster on the Nexus One than on my computer)
3. Stability: I tried my absolute best to slow it down and make it unstable. Couldn't do it. At one point in time, I had 23 apps open, the browser had 3 windows, I had youtube running, music, and so forth. Of course, several of the apps had to "reload" the last point I was at, but with this phone "reloading" is pretty much instant. The longest it ever took was one of the web pages had to re-download the content. I found that the phone's cache held my normal use just fine without ever having to reload.
4. Fit/Finish/Style: The phone has a very solid feel too, despite being very light in weight. Fits well in the hand, comfortable being used as a phone, and I got a lot of comments on it when I was out and about testing the "wow" factor (I was asked to go to a busy restaurant/bar and see how many people asked me about it). And, as odd as this might sound, being right handed the back button being on the far left was not a big deal, and I actually liked it's placement a lot since when I used it in landscape mode it was much more comfortable hitting it, and I think this is what they had in mind when they designed in like that.
5. Battery Life: Damn! That is all you need to know, Damn! I tried, really, really hard to push this to the max and see how fast I could run it down. I had WiFi and GPS both going, music playing, and was surfing the web as quick as possible, messing around with google maps taking a look at new and interesting places, and gave up. I used 80% of the battery in those 24 hours, for about an hour I was trying my best to run it down, and for the rest a little above typical usage. Today it only went down 20% from 9AM-5PM. My G1 is usually about 60% gone over that period.
6. Conclusion: I am someone that pretty much demands a physical keyboard for me to even think about buying a phone. I am getting a Nexus One as soon as they become available through the company I work for. My manager is a BB addict, and she said as soon as we get it she is switching as well. That is a huge statement, her daily phone is a BB 9700, she texts and writes most of her emails from her phone, and the Nexus One out performed her BB 9700. She was using the google voice service to write, but she said out of all the texts and emails she wrote using it she didn't have a single typo!
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On the battery, I might not have been 100% clear in re-reading this review, and want to say some people on this board have had different results and opinions. To add another experience, my manager used the phone for 2 days and didn't have to charge it, but she didn't use it nearly as much as I did. I am also editing that part of my review, so if you read it the first day it was posted it might be a little different for clarity sakes.
As expected, from a god of the Android phones.
Thanks pjcforpres for this write up/review. Il been holding out on the Nexus one mainly because of Keyboard. Im with Tmobile and have the latest 2.1 rom. I was even considering going to Big Red for the Droid but your review seems honest and has answered a few things for me with Keyboard, Battery life and speed. I may give it a go. Thanks much!
Building on your 2nd point... I was amazed at how quickly apps installed from Market... it was practically instantaneous!
24bronco said:
Thanks pjcforpres for this write up/review. Il been holding out on the Nexus one mainly because of Keyboard. Im with Tmobile and have the latest 2.1 rom. I was even considering going to Big Red for the Droid but your review seems honest and has answered a few things for me with Keyboard, Battery life and speed. I may give it a go. Thanks much!
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I want to point out that I edited the battery review part, and added a note at the end. It didn't read as clearly as the original thought when I wrote it.
I'm a hard keyboard junkie myself, and I have to say that I'm still not as great with the N1's soft keyboard than any hard kb. I don't think they will ever quite pare up.
However, the voice input is really incredible I especially love sitting down in my car, long-pressing "search" so the voice search comes up, and saying "Navigate to burger king." The phone opens Google Maps Navigation, plots the course from my location to the nearest Burger King, and begins turn-by-turn navigation.
Nice review...this bad boy has Awesome speed & eye candy!
Good review but the battery life on the N1, as much as I love this device, is horrendous. It's absolutely terrible. But then again, I actually expected it to be so it's not a big deal. I will get the fattest battery I can when they come out. I use the phone so much that I've actually had to start charging it a third time in one day.
honestly, i'm actually faster with the soft keyboard than i was with a hard board, because i don't have to actually press anything. i've tried on other screenboards too, and this thing is like butter compared to those. a hard keyboard was my sticking point for a long time, but no longer. not after this
You know, I kind of experienced the opposite in terms of battery. My G1 would last all day, with fairly regular usage and by the time I went to bed I was around 70% left battery.
I've had my N1 off the charger since around noon today, and its at 50%. so 24 hours at that rate would completely drain my battery. Overnight also, I left it unplugged, it was at 72% when I wend to bed (around midnight) and 60% when I got up (8:30a), so 8 hours standby consumed 12% battery. My n1 is also currently set to 2G only, as I flip/flop 2g/3g at my house (my g1 did the same here since they put up the new 3g tower).
I left mine off the charger overnight, and had 2% consumption. Not sure what to tell you other than check how often you have your stuff syncing, and what all you have in your background. I don't like task killers much, but I do use them to kill any media apps since even with those chilling in the background waiting for you to come back, they like to drain battery.
So far, on the 3 devices being used in our test group, we have all experienced the same great battery life I reported. Like I already said, my manager made it 2 days on 1 full charge (I think that was officially 44 hours). A couple others in the group experiened the same thing. The data specialist, who is a very heavy user (near constant actually) made it through the work day. That is the first time a smart phone has done that, including BB's.
We all have different ideas of what normal usage is and what heavy use is. Being that I sell cell phones for a living, and gotta fill out fun forms that define those for me, I would like to think my idea is closer to average than some of you guys. Let me put it like this, I guess, for me constant use does not =heavy use. Constant use=Constant use. Heavy use= an average of using the phone 30 minutes out of every hour. Average use=Using the phone less than 15 minutes an hour. As well, we factor in what that usage is, is it data? Is it phone calls? Is it media player?
There are tons of factors that can cause one man to think great battery life and another horrible. I tried my best to write my review and assesment based on my personal experience on a criteria that is based off 4 years of selling cell phones as well the guide sheet made up by 25 people with over 150 years combined experience in the cell phone world.
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I left mine off the charger overnight, and had 2% consumption. Not sure what to tell you other than check how often you have your stuff syncing, and what all you have in your background. I don't like task killers much, but I do use them to kill any media apps since even with those chilling in the background waiting for you to come back, they like to drain battery.
So far, on the 3 devices being used in our test group, we have all experienced the same great battery life I reported. Like I already said, my manager made it 2 days on 1 full charge (I think that was officially 44 hours). A couple others in the group experiened the same thing. The data specialist, who is a very heavy user (near constant actually) made it through the work day. That is the first time a smart phone has done that, including BB's.
We all have different ideas of what normal usage is and what heavy use is. Being that I sell cell phones for a living, and gotta fill out fun forms that define those for me, I would like to think my idea is closer to average than some of you guys. Let me put it like this, I guess, for me constant use does not =heavy use. Constant use=Constant use. Heavy use= an average of using the phone 30 minutes out of every hour. Average use=Using the phone less than 15 minutes an hour. As well, we factor in what that usage is, is it data? Is it phone calls? Is it media player?
There are tons of factors that can cause one man to think great battery life and another horrible. I tried my best to write my review and assesment based on my personal experience on a criteria that is based off 4 years of selling cell phones as well the guide sheet made up by 25 people with over 150 years combined experience in the cell phone world.
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Actually, I think the battery life is pretty good considering the what the phone does. It's just horrible compared to, for example, a non-smartphone. I'm not sure what people mean by "heavy use" but when I say heavy use, I mean my phone is on and I'm playing with it for five hours straight browsing, using data, video, music, games, apps and a combination of those. I rarely talk on the phone. Messaging, browser, music and apps are where I use my phone most. Basically, I use every feature for hours at a time. I live on my phone (for play and work so it's not as bad as it sounds). So if heavy use for others is 30 minutes out of every hour like you said, my heave use is many hours of constant use. But overall, the N1 is a wonderful device and it would take a lot for me to give it up (N2? LOL).
We/ I would call that constant or near constant use. Yes, heay usage might and is what most would call that, but when evaluating battery life on a more concise basis we would call that constant use for clarity and consitancy in the evaluation process from phone to phone and person to person.
I do agree, as well, that many people seem to compare a smart phone to a dumb phone too easily and readily for what their expectations are concerning battery life. IIRC, I can't see it as I write this, in my original post I said for a phone that does as much as the Nexus One, the battery life is great. And of course you say the same!
In my experiences, the Nexus One is just below a BB for battery usage, way better than WinMo, and an improvement over the G1(my personal phone right now). When you consider that it can do way more than a BB, faster, and better, the battery life becomes IMO better than a BB's. As the data specialist found, he actually had better battery life with the Nexus One than he did with his BB 8900 and 9700.
My first 24 have been like a love story
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My first 24 have been like a love story
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Yeah, it was so hard for me to give the phone to the next tester, it was like breaking up with my first love! I am actually thinking about ordering an unlocked off Google because I miss it so much already!
Although my N1's battery is clearly better than my G1's, it's still not nearly what some people are reporting. On weekdays, I get up about 7am and take my phone off the charger. On my way to take my daughter to school, and then on my way to work, I stream Pandora the entire way, on 3G (about 60 minutes in traffic). I get to work by about 8:30, and my battery at that point is at about 80-85%. My G1 would be about 65-70% at that same point. By the time I get home (about 3pm), streaming music all the way home (about 40 minutes). Battery life by the time I get home is around 45-50%, possibly less, depending on if I did much texting at work. By the time I go to bed (9 or 10pm) I'm at around 20%.
That's pretty much an average day. Only once have I completely drained the battery where my phone would not turn on, and it hit that point at about 8:30pm that day. This was not possible on my G1. I would have to charge it at work in order to do all of the above, and I'd still be in the 10-20% range by 10pm.
I think the biggest difference isn't the hardware 'or' the software, but mostly the 1400mah battery compared to the 1000mah battery on the G1. Although, the fact that the N1 is so much faster, means I get more things done in less time, which means more time in idle, and more battery saved.
I did just notice something though... I've had my phone unplugged since 8am this morning, it's now 2am, and I'm still at 20%... can't complain
what are you guys' battery use distribution?
according to the battery use showed on the phone, the screen drains most of my batter most oftenly more than 70 percent.
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what are you guys' battery use distribution?
according to the battery use showed on the phone, the screen drains most of my batter most oftenly more than 70 percent.
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That seems to be the prevailing "peak" usage.
I've had my Razr M for about two months now, and I've been enjoying it so far - with one exception: the battery life.
Having come from a Samsung Alias, I really have no experience with what to really expect out of any smartphone as far as battery life is concerned, but I have seen a number of screenshots of other users posting their runtimes. If I use the phone sparingly, it's not difficult for me to achieve the advertised runtime of 20 hours with 40% or so to spare - but if I start to seriously use it, I run into trouble, fast.
As the attached screenshots hopefully suggest, I typically get no more than about 2 hours of "screen on" time in any given day. (I try to cease usage by the time I hit 30%.) My typical usage habits include a fair bit of web surfing in Chrome, with a side of texting and text-only Hangouts. Wi-Fi is pretty much always on unless I know I'll be far from a router (hey, I'm on a low-tier data plan), and I though don't use Maps often, I leave the GPS toggled on. My phone is on stock Jellybean 4.1.2 (98.30.1), and is neither rooted nor bootloader unlocked.
(What really makes me worry about this is that the Moto G - a budget phone - reportedly gets SIX hours of screen-on time on one charge. WTH?)
Is this a realistic expectation of the Razr M's battery longevity, or is something, perhaps, amiss?
Seems to be fairly normal. My phone gets 2-3 hours of battery life as well over 12 hours of usage.
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I've had my Razr M for about two months now, and I've been enjoying it so far - with one exception: the battery life.
Having come from a Samsung Alias, I really have no experience with what to really expect out of any smartphone as far as battery life is concerned, but I have seen a number of screenshots of other users posting their runtimes. If I use the phone sparingly, it's not difficult for me to achieve the advertised runtime of 20 hours with 40% or so to spare - but if I start to seriously use it, I run into trouble, fast.
As the attached screenshots hopefully suggest, I typically get no more than about 2 hours of "screen on" time in any given day. (I try to cease usage by the time I hit 30%.) My typical usage habits include a fair bit of web surfing in Chrome, with a side of texting and text-only Hangouts. Wi-Fi is pretty much always on unless I know I'll be far from a router (hey, I'm on a low-tier data plan), and I though don't use Maps often, I leave the GPS toggled on. My phone is on stock Jellybean 4.1.2 (98.30.1), and is neither rooted nor bootloader unlocked.
(What really makes me worry about this is that the Moto G - a budget phone - reportedly gets SIX hours of screen-on time on one charge. WTH?)
Is this a realistic expectation of the Razr M's battery longevity, or is something, perhaps, amiss?
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it is normal, i have almost the same battery life.
I haven't bought this device. I am thinking to but battery is a big question for me because its non replaceable. I will buy a used phone so it is a issue for me. Can you guys tell me hows its battery life? and is 16GB enough? How much is user available?
just got it, you've got like 11.5gb available and battery is fine so far i haven't charged it in over 16 hours and I'm at like 40%
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just got it, you've got like 11.5gb available and battery is fine so far i haven't charged it in over 16 hours and I'm at like 40%
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Thanks for reply and hows old your device is?
By the way hows its low light/night result of camera? I was reading on "Post pictures taken from your Nexus 4!" and many users have said it has bad quality? Or they really cant use camera? lol
Nexus 4 camera sensor is small , 1/4 " and it really takes crappy photos im low light
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Thanks for reply and hows old your device is?
By the way hows its low light/night result of camera? I was reading on "Post pictures taken from your Nexus 4!" and many users have said it has bad quality? Or they really cant use camera? lol
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the phone is like 6 moths old but i got it yesterday, it was my moms, the camera is OK but you have to play around in the settings to get it right for the situation, id say don't take low light hoots if you don't have to but its not that bad at all for normal pics
Camera is ok...Not so good, but not that bad too, just ok.
About battery life, depends on your usage. Mine usually lasts for 12 hours, with 3g on all day, using whatsapp, tapatalk, chrome, sometimes playing games...
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The great battery impression thread too.
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Actually after the Google Camera update the camera takes decent photos, and after editing them with the built in photo editor they do look very good, as long as you know how to use it properly
Camera is really okay. It pales infront of current high end cameras like the one m8 or z3, but the shots are always satisfying. You really must know how to handle it.
My batterie life is also very good. It last at least one day with chatting, browsing, a tiny bit gaming, music and movies. On screen time always are 3,5/4+ hours. I think there is nothing to complain about.
i have the n4 since january 2013, and im getting less and less satisfied with the battery life.
im a heavy user, lots of browsing, listening to music on bluetooth, chatting, etc., and i used to get a day of use out of it easily, now i have to charge it to be able to pull through work and the usual evening beer.
i rarely get more than 2 hours screen on time, and im constantly on wifi or 2g, just a couple of times 3g, with about an average of -70dBm cell coverage.
every keep awake permission is revoked, and only a handful of apps get access to my location, so the phone is mostly in deep sleep.
average battery drain is about 2,9% according to system monitor for the last couple of days.
if battery life is important to you, id rather recommend the moto g.
Depending on usage and reception about 3-5h screen on time.
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Its subjective
From morning to bed time if you use your phone actively throughout the day
or 2 days if you only make calls and listen to music
hey,
Im a new tablet user.I own a nexus 7 and im so disappointed with its battery life that i cant take it anymore so i have to ask.its just been a couple of days since i bought it. the maximum on screen time i get is 5-6hrs.i scrolled over battery life posts of others on this forum and i was shocked to see many of them actually have good battery life which made me worry even more.Maybe its the battery's fault or something.it had some heating issues then i did a factory reset now its fine but the battery still sucks.i have disabled all google apps,location,maps,books..etc all that i dont need but still its no good.please suggest something.shoud i ask for replacement or is it something like the model whose price go down are geared up with cheaper hardware and stuff cos i bought this one recently and this probably came out last year.
The third screenshot was taken after watching a full movie on earphones with full battery.it went down 32 % of the battery.wifi was off.
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It's you usage. That's all. Games take a huge toll on battery life on any device.
You have no issue.
Try one full charge with zero gaming. See how you do then. ?
That's about average, as LJ says games really suck battery the most. My typical usage consists of web browsing, XDA forum on Tapatalk browsing, pocket, twitter, fb, etc nothing too heavy really. I get about 4-5 hrs screen on over about 2-3 days. Im usually only on my tablet in the evening and so it sleeps the rest of the time with WiFi and autosync off.
You can always experiment with other ROMs/kernels to see if you can tweak things further.
Also, 5.0 is on the way, you could always flash the factory images for a full fresh lollipop experience. [emoji2]
Hi Friends,
Just wonder if this is normal for this phone, or you guys could give me some pointers for extending my battery life, specifically the Screen On Time?
I have:
- Stock QC2 firmware - I believe this is Nougat with the March security patch
- No Facebook installed (Disabled)
- I am on data about 8 hours a day, rest is WiFi, Bluetooth for my Watch, and NFC is off
- Generally use a black and red theme
- Doing Ad blocking with the AdClear VPN solution
- Sometimes I make conference calls of under 2 hours
- No games, no YouTube watching
With this set I can barely manage like 3 hours of SOT. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Any pointers? Thanks!
3 hours SOT is not normal for unrooted stock. I would suggest downloading GSam Battery Monitor and finding out what is hogging the battery. Note that you will need to manually enable the battery statistics permission with ADB for some reason, but after that it will work like normal.
The top two lines should be Android System and Kernel. If you see any non-system app in the vicinity, that is your likely culprit unless you can explain it with normal usage (for example, Firefox is at the top of the list on mine because I surf the web with it)
Alternately, if nothing odd shows up, you may have a bad battery.
The other thing you might take a look at is shutting off the Location setting that scans Wifi/Bluetooth. That is a massive battery killer
Thank you for the helpful responses guys! I'll try GSam Battery stuff... What are your SOTs BTW?
Thanks!
Also my vibration is always on, my back lit keys are always on, and a 30 second screen timeout time, if it helps? Thanks!
Finally, this is the AT&T model with all the bloat disabled.
I'm typically off charge 18 hours and on data the entire time. I do run a Exchange email app that pushes email, my SOT isn't really huge, maybe around 2-3 hours and I also have BT always on and connected to my S3 Frontier. At the end of my day, I end up with with battery around 50% ish.........
Did you recently update, or did you do a clean install? Sometimes the battery can take a few days to settle in
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I'm typically off charge 18 hours and on data the entire time. I do run a Exchange email app that pushes email, my SOT isn't really huge, maybe around 2-3 hours and I also have BT always on and connected to my S3 Frontier. At the end of my day, I end up with with battery around 50% ish.........
Did you recently update, or did you do a clean install? Sometimes the battery can take a few days to settle in
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That's pretty amazing! Yes, clean install and updated from MM to Nougat and then the latest patch.
I've got a battery monitoring app installed now... Let's see what it unveils... I'm thinking maybe it's my settings, syncing and etc, cause I NEVER get the SOTs people report on XDA LOL, on any phone really except the Mate 9 I had...
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That's pretty amazing! Yes, clean install and updated from MM to Nougat and then the latest patch.
I've got a battery monitoring app installed now... Let's see what it unveils... I'm thinking maybe it's my settings, syncing and etc, cause I NEVER get the SOTs people report on XDA LOL, on any phone really except the Mate 9 I had...
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I'd give it a few days to settle in.
Battery life is SO subjective. The app's installed and the person's usage habits play a massive part in battery life, and you saying that you never get what others are, speak a lot to that.
The built in optimizers in Nougat seem to do a pretty good job at putting unused battery sucking apps to sleep.
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Hi Friends,
Just wonder if this is normal for this phone, or you guys could give me some pointers for extending my battery life, specifically the Screen On Time?
I have:
- Stock QC2 firmware - I believe this is Nougat with the March security patch
- No Facebook installed (Disabled)
- I am on data about 8 hours a day, rest is WiFi, Bluetooth for my Watch, and NFC is off
- Generally use a black and red theme
- Doing Ad blocking with the AdClear VPN solution
- Sometimes I make conference calls of under 2 hours
- No games, no YouTube watching
With this set I can barely manage like 3 hours of SOT. Is this normal? What am I doing wrong? Any pointers? Thanks!
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I notice one thing, when i connect my Gear 2 by bluetooth battery on phone less about 10-15% less. With out watch and no FB and FB messenger, NFC on, most of day on data, wifi off, 5-6 hours call ( do to nature of my job) i get around 3.5 hours SOT.
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kangi26 said:
I'd give it a few days to settle in.
Battery life is SO subjective. The app's installed and the person's usage habits play a massive part in battery life, and you saying that you never get what others are, speak a lot to that.
The built in optimizers in Nougat seem to do a pretty good job at putting unused battery sucking apps to sleep.
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I agree bud, so I think my usage pattern must be horrible, cause from the earliest Androids like Droid Incredible to Axon 7 and S7 Edge and others, I never get what people mention. And some of their claimed usage is ridiculous, they say they play games all day, LTE, Videos and still get like 5 hours or etc... Boggles my mind. My biggest battery hog I suspect is my VPN based AdGuard, maybe the vibration, but compared to gaming and etc, they sound so insignificant.
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I notice one thing, when i connect my Gear 2 by bluetooth battery on phone less about 10-15% less. With out watch and no FB and FB messenger, NFC on, most of day on data, wifi off, 5-6 hours call ( do to nature of my job) i get around 3.5 hours SOT.
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Yeah, that's more like my usage. Without my Watch, this may be the case. I don't use NFC. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
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3 hours SOT is not normal for unrooted stock. I would suggest downloading GSam Battery Monitor and finding out what is hogging the battery. Note that you will need to manually enable the battery statistics permission with ADB for some reason, but after that it will work like normal.
The top two lines should be Android System and Kernel. If you see any non-system app in the vicinity, that is your likely culprit unless you can explain it with normal usage (for example, Firefox is at the top of the list on mine because I surf the web with it)
Alternately, if nothing odd shows up, you may have a bad battery.
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This is a actually normal for USA SAMSUNG battery which is why no1 should get Galaxy S7 on USA carriers battery is even 100 maH smaller at 3500. Battery is always crap usa versions. And I am stuck in them nougat is bad for battery nothing you can do but downgrade to Android 6.0.1 with Odin. Best battery I can upload a vid for proof att Samsung S7 edge battery sucks and so will all USA carriers s8 never buying Samsung again GG. Switch phones best option iPhones have best battery but I hate them. I'd go for a phone with biggest mAh in specs and read reviews for battery. If downgrading doesn't work sorry for all Samsung lovers who read this it's just fact if you actually compare USA version to international. Battery on international is 92 ish hours not even close on USA version +1 sorry for my rant. Second best option I went to zero lemon and got a battery charging case that was like 10000 something maH and I never loose battery because I keep case on entire time makes phone weigh 4 pounds tho
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This is a actually normal for USA SAMSUNG battery which is why no1 should get Galaxy S7 on USA carriers battery is even 100 maH smaller at 3500. Battery is always crap usa versions. And I am stuck in them nougat is bad for battery nothing you can do but downgrade to Android 6.0.1 with Odin. Best battery I can upload a vid for proof att Samsung S7 edge battery sucks and so will all USA carriers s8 never buying Samsung again GG. Switch phones best option iPhones have best battery but I hate them. I'd go for a phone with biggest mAh in specs and read reviews for battery. If downgrading doesn't work sorry for all Samsung lovers who read this it's just fact if you actually compare USA version to international. Battery on international is 92 ish hours not even close on USA version +1 sorry for my rant. Second best option I went to zero lemon and got a battery charging case that was like 10000 something maH and I never loose battery because I keep case on entire time makes phone weigh 4 pounds tho
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts, bud, I think I would agree, this must be reality. An update for me, seems like getting rid of the VPN based Adblocker has helped battery. Last night, I finally got 4 hours SOT, but that was with the VPN app. Trying without it all day, let's see how it goes.
BTW, hands down, the best battery I have ever seen in the US is on the Huawei Mate 9, even on Nougat. The HUGE battery helps, but legitimately, I was getting 7 hours of SOT.
Thanks guys!
Got the attached SOT after turning off the VPN based ad blocker and using it as needed, rather than on the whole time... Is this closer to normal? ?
I only get 3-4hrs SOT but it is connected to my huawei watch and music is playing when it connects to my bluetooth fm transmitter in my car. I also usually have it plugged in while driving. The best battery life SOT I've seen is on the moto z play. My sister has that phone and she got almost 9hrs SOT. Usually gets at least 7. Someone got over 10.