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The android market is going to HELL

Hi guys,
Have you noticed a huge increase in spam apps in the market lately? Apps from developers like Michael Quach, Virtualtechs or Simpaddico, which literally count in the hundreds even though they really are the same app: a list of facts or quotes, with next / back buttons.
Apparently they also batch upload new versions of their apps regularly, just to get them to the top again. I'm getting sick of missing actual, useful apps because every time I check the market I only see these apps. Isn't there something we users can do to get rid of market spammers?

Proabably
There should be a "REPORT" button, right now its not a whole bunch of chronic spammer devies, they can get rid of them right away. BUNCH OF them are just scammers tryin' to make a quick buck.
frandavid100 said:
Hi guys,
Have you noticed a huge increase in spam apps in the market lately? Apps from developers like Michael Quach, Virtualtechs or Simpaddico, which literally count in the hundreds even though they really are the same app: a list of facts or quotes, with next / back buttons.
Apparently they also batch upload new versions of their apps regularly, just to get them to the top again. I'm getting sick of missing actual, useful apps because every time I check the market I only see these apps. Isn't there something we users can do to get rid of market spammers?
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ehBrY said:
There should be a "REPORT" button, right now its not a whole bunch of chronic spammer devies, they can get rid of them right away. BUNCH OF them are just scammers tryin' to make a quick buck.
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The problem is, taken independently those apps are not reportable. There is nothing wrong with a facts app, but there is with a developer releasing 100 of them. Yet I cannot report the developer, I can only report the app.

the biggest problem for me is the lack of search options in the market - unbelievable that google could leave it like that - there seems to be no intelligent search, no search by category or dev etc etc etc

Sorting options
czm said:
the biggest problem for me is the lack of search options in the market - unbelievable that google could leave it like that - there seems to be no intelligent search, no search by category or dev etc etc etc
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It is DEFINATELY missing sorting options like sort by rating!

Spam their email like they do our market

There does need to be some method whereby Google get notified if one developer uploads more than, say, 5 apps or they upload several at the same time and then someone at google has to physically examine them before they go up. That way these spam apps would be identifed as such and not turn up there.
I guess ultimately this is the price we pay for having an unrestricted market. At the moment it is still worth it to get the kinds of app that Apple would never allow but I think SOME control is needed.

This is where Apple's "managed" Store has it's benefits.

I would love to see a market proxy for rooted phones, allowing various developers and app categories to be removed from view. Regex pattern matching ...
I don't know if it's possible, but it would rock.

JTHM said:
This is where Apple's "managed" Store has it's benefits.
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After using the Nexus one for a month, there are many aspect of iphone i think is superior to Android in general. There are some flaws on the iphone, but when compared to the N1 (or any android phone), it feel so much more polished.

joshyth1012 said:
After using the Nexus one for a month, there are many aspect of iphone i think is superior to Android in general. There are some flaws on the iphone, but when compared to the N1 (or any android phone), it feel so much more polished.
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and that's "polish" comes at the cost of locking you away with everything u should have access for in the first place

Actually, I think these scammers/spammers/out-for-the-money people are NOT the problem...And in fact, they're actually a show of proof of just how open-ended the Android Market is.
The problem is that Google (The Internet Search Superpower) has crappy searching/filtering for their Android Market.
Ironic.

Could you guys please contribute to this petition?
http://www.google.com/support/forum...87&hl=en&fid=0514f909d7c71c8700047ff77f3d84e4
Let's see if we can at least get an answer.

Namuna said:
Actually, I think these scammers/spammers/out-for-the-money people are NOT the problem...And in fact, they're actually a show of proof of just how open-ended the Android Market is.
The problem is that Google (The Internet Search Superpower) has crappy searching/filtering for their Android Market.
Ironic.
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qft. all they need to do is add filters like ratings, downloads, etc. Then these apps wouldn't be a problem.

sctx said:
qft. all they need to do is add filters like ratings, downloads, etc. Then these apps wouldn't be a problem.
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Exactly. The 'legit' devs should be pushing for this as well as it would make it easier for end users to find and buy quality product.

This is the exact reason why my Nexus One sat in its box for a week after receiving it. This is my first Android phone and coming from an Apple OS and a regulated app platform since the 2g was introduced, the marketplace had a very bad first impression with me. My N1 was bone stock and I experienced force closes on stock apps..I felt as if I was beta testing a device that was released too early. It was packed and ready to ship back. Then I decided to take another look and while 95% of the marketplace apps are pure garbage, IMO, the phone itself has its advantages which is why I choose the N1 as choice device as opposed to my 3gs in which I basically use as an ipod "with benefits."
Final thought. If the android market app regulation doesnt improve, it will fall..and it will fall hard.

ehBrY said:
It is DEFINATELY missing sorting options like sort by rating!
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+1 def would like to see this

This is a problem, and I do think Google should priorities this A.S.A.P. As this will discourage most Iphone to Android users. I don't even look in the new tab any more.

its not like google knows a thing or two about how searching should be done....

Do what I do...only download apps you know about. Get recommendations from sites like this one.

[Q] Trial apps start charging?

So we got our bill and found out our 5 yr old does know how to buy games from the Windows market place.
I understand there is no refund; but I wanted to check on the policy of the trials. I can't find any reference to it but I wanted to make the trials weren't timed where you actually become the owner of the application after a certain amount of time? That would seem obsurd; but my wife may have a heart attack if the phone bill comes back that high again.

shawnl01 said:
So we got our bill and found out our 5 yr old does know how to buy games from the Windows market place.
I understand there is no refund; but I wanted to check on the policy of the trials. I can't find any reference to it but I wanted to make the trials weren't timed where you actually become the owner of the application after a certain amount of time? That would seem obsurd; but my wife may have a heart attack if the phone bill comes back that high again.
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You should be safe. I haven't seen any time trials yet. Most "try" apps are either normal apps with advertising in them, limited in function or limited in usage...like a game might be limited to 1 to 4 run-throughs. There aren't any that I've seen i WP7 market that charge after a period of time.

MartyLK said:
You should be safe. I haven't seen any time trials yet. Most "try" apps are either normal apps with advertising in them, limited in function or limited in usage...like a game might be limited to 1 to 4 run-throughs. There aren't any that I've seen i WP7 market that charge after a period of time.
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Awsome, thank you
Now if my son could only pick better games when he does something like this

Which Ad network is generating more revenue with Push,Icon and Smartwall

Hello Friends,
I want to use different ad network for Push,Icon and Smartwall in an app. Anyone can suggest me which ad network generating more revenue with specific ad.
Thanks,

I would not use push ads. They are recognized as malware by some AntiVirus programms. There will be negative comments.

m4manish8248 said:
Hello Friends,
I want to use different ad network for Push,Icon and Smartwall in an app. Anyone can suggest me which ad network generating more revenue with specific ad.
Thanks,
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Google take the Push Ads like malware, and is removing apps from Market...
My recommendation: use non intrusive ads generally, or if you have the posibility (a game for example), use in-app payments and TapJoy like ad network.

m4manish8248 said:
hello friends,
i want to use different ad network for push,icon and smartwall in an app. Anyone can suggest me which ad network generating more revenue with specific ad.
Thanks,
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ffffffuuuuuuuu ad walls
Edit: XDA Y U NO let me caps D:

is using Airpush a reason to be removed? Sure? I don't think so.

henihazbay said:
is using Airpush a reason to be removed? Sure? I don't think so.
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I think it's in the Play Store guidelines.
I do know, however, that people will be uninstalling with anything bigger than simple banners. I know I do .
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I agree that push ads are just annoying. You've got to have a pretty amazing product in order for most people to deem push ads acceptable. Though, if they pay enough then maybe you can afford to gain only 5-10% active installs.

jay613 said:
I agree that push ads are just annoying. You've got to have a pretty amazing product in order for most people to deem push ads acceptable. Though, if they pay enough then maybe you can afford to gain only 5-10% active installs.
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However, the position in the Google Play search results is influenced heavily by your active installs.
So it will be very far down the list.

nikwen said:
However, the position in the Google Play search results is influenced heavily by your active installs.
So it will be very far down the list.
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Air push has got to be one of THE most intrusive ****ing ad offerings out there. Unless you want to burn at the stake (and by me personally) don't EVER consider pushing this malware like piece of **** out to users devices!!!
You should be ashamed for even considering.
That and a number of others are on my HIGHLY most hated list at the moment. I would rather pay for an app than have that crap on my phone. Maybe take my last words into consideration eh?

What do u think about StarApplication?
There's a lot of ad networks that uses flexible monetize.
It doesn't have to be ad push. I agree it's so annoying.
A couple of them have a 'exit ad' sdk.
What do u all think about Star Application?

Try this one...... I think its good... http://startapp.com/rfulyhs
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i recommend you to use LeadBolt Platform , Why :
- Many Ads type avaible(more Ads type than any Other Platformi have seen) , Banner , Notification , Splash Screen , Entry & Exit Ads & much More , Ads are 100% Customizable , Text Color , Size etc ... -
- Ads are also avaible in HTML Format -
- Highest Revenue , i have tested Admob , Airpush , StartApp , StartApp sucks , AdMob is good if you have many Click , Airpush & Start app have somes "Strange Problems" about statistics from my Experience ...(no Comments) & less Ads type avaible than LeadBolt -
- Nice & Complete Dashboard -
- Full Support/Help , they Answer & solve your problems Quickly -
If i had to make a Classment : 1) LeadBolt , 2) Airpush 3) AdMob , 4) StartApp , this is what i think Sincerely , many of them Scam you but i am satisfied with LeadBolt for the Moment , if you want to give a Try , its Here : http://leadbolt.com/developers_signup.php?ref=10050243
m4manish8248 said:
Hello Friends,
I want to use different ad network for Push,Icon and Smartwall in an app. Anyone can suggest me which ad network generating more revenue with specific ad.
Thanks,
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Admob is fine
I am satisfied with admob. It has no special ads, but neither Leadbolt nor Airpush brought me more money, than admob.

kimky said:
There's a lot of ad networks that uses flexible monetize.
It doesn't have to be ad push. I agree it's so annoying.
A couple of them have a 'exit ad' sdk.
What do u all think about Star Application?
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I think so

dappwl said:
I am satisfied with admob. It has no special ads, but neither Leadbolt nor Airpush brought me more money, than admob.
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That's because this is not a Background App & you have many Click

Please use Interstitals or creative ads to get higher revenues in any ad networks..

m4manish8248 said:
Hello Friends,
I want to use different ad network for Push,Icon and Smartwall in an app. Anyone can suggest me which ad network generating more revenue with specific ad.
Thanks,
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Hello @m4manish8248, you can have a look at Pollfish. Pollfish provides a new interactive monetization method for mobile apps, delivering surveys instead if ads. Each completed survey through your app pays minimum $0.30.

In my experience, Adsota is good
I have great experience in Push, Icon, and Smartwall with Adsota and its eCPM is good.
You can find it by googling "ads.appota".
Best of luck, man.

Adsota for the win
its eCPM with Push, ICon, and Smartwall is good. You can find it by googling "ads.appota"

You can also try video ads with Teads. We offer great CPM's, ad units created with the user in mind, and premium advertisers only. You may be thinking why haven't you heard of Teads before. Well the reason is because we just moved into the app space, and currently beta testing our SDK. During this phase, each successful integration will be compensated for.
If you'd like to learn more about our offering, please don't hesitate to reach out to me directly at [email protected]
Thanks!
Melvin

AdMob Interstitial Ads Delay

Hey guys, im having an issue with admob interstitial ad.
When I exit the ad it takes 1-2 seconds to go back to the app. Usually in other apps or games, it goes straight to the app upon pressing X or pressing Back.
Any reason why there is a delay and any fix to it?

TheGTS said:
Hey guys, im having an issue with admob interstitial ad.
When I exit the ad it takes 1-2 seconds to go back to the app. Usually in other apps or games, it goes straight to the app upon pressing X or pressing Back.
Any reason why there is a delay and any fix to it?
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Check your onAdClosed method in the class implementing AdListener. Are you doing something CPU intensive there? If you post a bit more code, we might be able to help.

auricPuneet said:
Check your onAdClosed method in the class implementing AdListener. Are you doing something CPU intensive there? If you post a bit more code, we might be able to help.
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Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it.
At the start of the battle the full screen ad is loaded but not shown. Once the player dies, the full screen ad pops up fast which is good but takes 1-2 seconds to get back to the app once its closed.
Here is the full code, that's all really.
void Start(){
AdMobAndroid.requestInterstital( "ca-app-pub-*********************" );
}
public void OnGameOver(){
if(AdMobAndroid.isInterstitalReady()){
AdMobAndroid.displayInterstital();
}
}
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I am using Unity3d.

TheGTS said:
I am using Unity3d.
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The code you posted only shows how you are loading the Ad and showing it. Are you doing anything when closing it? May be you are switching scene right after the Ad is closed, and its taking time to load the objects in memory.
I will cede ground to someone more experienced in Unity 3d though. I have just begun getting my feet wet in it.

auricPuneet said:
The code you posted only shows how you are loading the Ad and showing it. Are you doing anything when closing it? May be you are switching scene right after the Ad is closed, and its taking time to load the objects in memory.
I will cede ground to someone more experienced in Unity 3d though. I have just begun getting my feet wet in it.
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I am not doing anything to close it. Seems like AdMob does that on its own.
Not sure if Unity has a function for onAdClosed().

I am also using prime31 plugin. They were no help, and told me it's AdMob that I have to contact.

Work for me
TheGTS said:
I am also using prime31 plugin. They were no help, and told me it's AdMob that I have to contact.
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Hey I also use prime31 plugin for admob but I have no issues like this. try to update your prime31 plugin. It is certainly not a problem from prime31 or admob. if you can post your code here I can help.

don't depend on Admob
I got the same problem too but everything is normal 2 days afterwards (strange though). But the incident made me wonder: "should I always depend on Admob?".
So I decide to combine several Ad networks. It works. And I realize something about Admob:
Pros: It is reliable and has huge users database. Admob is backed by Google - a prestigious corporation who tracks every steps of anyone who use its service.
Cons:
- Its eCPM is low (I don't know exactly why but everytime I try another Ad network, they outperform Admob in terms of eCPM. I guess that Admob know it has advantages over competitors when it comes to reputation and users database, so It charge advertisers and publishers more)
- Its ban users more frequently. (Some of my friends' accounts got banned because Google thinks they was cheating, while infact he didn't. It was very difficult for him to reach Google support to recover his accounts).
after combining Admob and with Airpush, Leadbolt, StartApp, ChartBoost, I end up with Adsota - a lesser known ad network. Adsota is an has much higher eCPM, 100% fill-rate, variousa ads format, and swift payment. You can find it by googling "ads.appota".
Best of luck, mate!

RevMob alternative

Hi i use RevMob ads for my app in android.full ad at the end of the game
15.000 impressions, 5.000 clicks and 0,65 dollars revenue... in Greece
Any good alternative ad network? (except admob)
Thank you

anybody?

What do you mean by cpm
In emobi what do you mean by cpm? Does that means we get money for impressions ?

You should try Avocarrot
fallenangel1978 said:
Hi i use RevMob ads for my app in android.full ad at the end of the game
15.000 impressions, 5.000 clicks and 0,65 dollars revenue... in Greece
Any good alternative ad network? (except admob)
Thank you
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geia sou fallenangel1978
You should try out Avocarrot. We help you make more money in a less intrusive way using native ads. Let me know if you need any help.
george

fallenangel1978 said:
Hi i use RevMob ads for my app in android.full ad at the end of the game
15.000 impressions, 5.000 clicks and 0,65 dollars revenue...
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You got only $0,65 for those stats ? Wow, even at StartApp I get atleast $50 for that.
You can try Upsight, former name Playhaven.

Crichton333 said:
You got only $0,65 for those stats ? Wow, even at StartApp I get atleast $50 for that.
You can try Upsight, former name Playhaven.
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Me too, I am earning $10 per day for only 200-300 impressions from Upsight..

jigarpandya said:
Me too, I am earning $10 per day for only 200-300 impressions from Upsight..
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Yea I just started Upsight and have a similar profit, if it continues to be this good Im gonna switch to Upsight full time.

CrossInstall, Vungle and Inneractive

Crichton333 said:
You got only $0,65 for those stats ? Wow, even at StartApp I get atleast $50 for that.
You can try Upsight, former name Playhaven.
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Me too, I am earning $10 per day for only 200-300 impressions from Upsight..
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Yea I just started Upsight and have a similar profit, if it continues to be this good Im gonna switch to Upsight full time.
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Upsight is an ad network?
thank you
I just want a mobile ad network to pay by impressions not installs
is there any good out there?

fallenangel1978 said:
Upsight is an ad network?
thank you
I just want a mobile ad network to pay by impressions not installs
is there any good out there?
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Yes its an ad network, it has tons of options for ingame advertising
and an anylitics tool.

jigarpandya said:
Me too, I am earning $10 per day for only 200-300 impressions from Upsight..
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What kind of ad network is ist? Do they pay for impression, click or install?

any googd netword that pay by inpresions? for android

RevMob Alternative
There are a million different ad networks out there so comes down to a few factors:
1.) What type of users do you have (responsive, engaged, etc)
2.) Where are your users based (location)
3.) What type of units can you run (banner, fullscreen, video, incentive, app walls, etc.)
4.) What app stores are you in?
Airpush is the 2nd largest next to Google, and fullscreen rates are much higher than what you are seeing with RevMob. We have worldwide fill and industry leading CPMs and are available in Google Play or 3rd party stores. Happy to give you more info and see if we can help you, or point you in the right direction if we are not a fit.
fallenangel1978 said:
Hi i use RevMob ads for my app in android.full ad at the end of the game
15.000 impressions, 5.000 clicks and 0,65 dollars revenue... in Greece
Any good alternative ad network? (except admob)
Thank you
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ChrisAirpush said:
There are a million different ad networks out there so comes down to a few factors:
1.) What type of users do you have (responsive, engaged, etc)
2.) Where are your users based (location)
3.) What type of units can you run (banner, fullscreen, video, incentive, app walls, etc.)
4.) What app stores are you in?
Airpush is the 2nd largest next to Google, and fullscreen rates are much higher than what you are seeing with RevMob. We have worldwide fill and industry leading CPMs and are available in Google Play or 3rd party stores. Happy to give you more info and see if we can help you, or point you in the right direction if we are not a fit.
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i have 8 quiz in greek language and i use banners and fullscreen ads in google play. i ll give a try. and i ll share my thoughts here.
thank you

Give NOTIFY a try!
NOTIFY drives more revenue for app developers. We have ad units for google play and even more aggressive ad units for alternative app-stores that developers request. See here: https://www.notifymob.com
Our eCPM numbers are outperforming other ad network.. Our support is fabulous and we strive improve daily.
FYI: Here's our start guide so you can see how easy it easy to integrate. Doesn't take much time at all. https://www.notifymob.com/quickstart.html
Cheers,
Blake

Tried AppBrain?
Disclaimer: I'm one of the developers of AppBrain.
There seem to be a lot of representatives present on this forum from AirPush and other companies but I don't see much mention of AppBrain. Our SDK is used by 40,000+ Android apps and has a number of flexible monetization options. If you've never tried it before it may be worth checking out!
The developer documentation is directly accessible at http://applift.io/

You're right-- there are seemingly millions of networks out there, and it's hard to differentiate who does what or gave give the best yield.
You can find an entire list of them here: Thalamus.co
It's used more on the UA front with data on average CPIs + Install rates by genre/platform/country, but should give you a good sense of their eCPMs to see which others you can add into your monetization strategy.

I recommend ADSOTA
Just like you, I don't prefer Admob. Now I am using Adsota.
- Its CPM is good
- 100% ads fill-rate (quiet sure about this because my friends use this too)
There are a lot of big name out there but I choose it simply because it pays well and it is smooth.
You can find Adsota by searching "ads.appota".
Best of luck, man.

Have you ever considered video ads? My company, Teads is bringing our award winning unit into the app space. We do have a few product offering depending on your app. A few things we are offering: great payouts, premium advertisers only (T-Mobile, AT&T, Playstation), ease of use.
As you may have read in other threads, we are currently in a live beta testing phase. During this phase, we are compensating developers for their time upon successful integration with our SDK. If you'd like to learn more about Teads, please don't hesitate to reach out to me directly at [email protected]
Thanks!