Nandroid backup without custom recovery - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Is it possible to make nandroid backups without custom recovery? There is an app which is called Online Nandroid Backup and the developers claim it is possible to make such backups with it without CWM. Is it true? Can you really do it just with stock recovery?

Steven1962 said:
Hi,
Is it possible to make nandroid backups without custom recovery? There is an app which is called Online Nandroid Backup and the developers claim it is possible to make such backups with it without CWM. Is it true? Can you really do it just with stock recovery?
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It doesn't use the recovery for that. The application uses specific built-in script (does same thing as recoveries) to create full nandroid backup of your phone.
So yes, the application really works.

So actually I wouldn't trip Knox if I use it to make a backup? The thing is I have stock recovery and I know that any interference with it will trip Knox...
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And maybe one more question: what's the point in installing custom recovery and tripping Knox then if one of the most important tasks - creating backups can also be fulfilled by this free app?
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Flashing and data question

Hello quick question here If my phone is already rooted with stock rom and I flash CM on it will I lose my data?
JayMix said:
Hello quick question here If my phone is already rooted with stock rom and I flash CM on it will I lose my data?
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Yes. to prevent any issues it is advised to wipe all data before flashing. One of the things you learn to deal with when flashing custom roms.
JayMix said:
Hello quick question here If my phone is already rooted with stock rom and I flash CM on it will I lose my data?
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You'll want to wipe your data partition when you flash between ROMs. You can use Titanium Backup to backup your user apps before you flash CM (it might be a good idea to copy the TitaniumBackup folder off of your phone after you've made the backup if you aren't familiar with flashing or wiping, if you wipe the internal SD you're backups will be deleted!). Once you've flashed CM you can download Titanium Backup from the market and restore from your backup.
While you can backup/restore system apps as well you'll get weird results between ROMs (which usually results in wiping and starting over again anyway), so my advice is to only restore system apps/data when flashing the same ROM.
Your virtual SD card will not be wiped.
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Thx very helpful.
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What is a nandroid backup and how does it differ from titanium backup?

I am new to this rooting world....I rooted my nexus 4 a week back using Nexus root toolkit v1.8.
I then flashed cm11 onto my phone.
I have TWRP recovery on my phone.
I want a full backup of my apps+data+ROM. How's this possible?? Which of these backups allow this..... And how to do these backups.
Also can anyone explain what a kernel is??
Titanium backup can only backup part of your data. Simply because apps can't access everything.
If you want a full backup, you should make a nandroid backup. Which is simply the name for a backup you do through your recovery. (TWRP in your case)
And the explanation of a kernel is really easy to find. So you'll have to use Google for that (I can't really think of a good explanation atm)
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How to perform a full nandroid backup using TWRP recovery??
Also can I do the nandroid backup directly to my PC
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sPaMFouR said:
How to perform a full nandroid backup using TWRP recovery??
Also can I do the nandroid backup directly to my PC
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Just use the backup toggle in twrp. And no, you can't backup direct to your pc. But afterwards you can copy the backup to your pc. It's good practice to have at least one recent backup there just in case something happens where you'll need it.
jd1639 said:
Just use the backup toggle in twrp. And no, you can't backup direct to your pc. But afterwards you can copy the backup to your pc. It's good practice to have at least one recent backup there just in case something happens where you'll need it.
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Some More Question Regarding Backups :-
Backing Up Using The ROM Manager (By Clockwork Mod) also performs the Nandroid Backup ???
Also when I Restore My Nandroid Backup (Of ROM1) while i am using some other ROM(ROM 2) .....flash the device into the ROM 1 settings and all the systems settings+apps.???
sPaMFouR said:
Some More Question Regarding Backups :-
Backing Up Using The ROM Manager (By Clockwork Mod) also performs the Nandroid Backup ???
Also when I Restore My Nandroid Backup (Of ROM1) while i am using some other ROM(ROM 2) .....flash the device into the ROM 1 settings and all the systems settings+apps.???
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First, don't use rom manager. You don't need it
A nandroid is like a copy of the entire os and all your apps and user settings. If your running rom2 and you restore rom1 all your settings of rom 2 will be forgotten and the ones you had in rom 1 when you backed it up will be restored.
sPaMFouR said:
Some More Question Regarding Backups :-
Backing Up Using The ROM Manager (By Clockwork Mod) also performs the Nandroid Backup ???
Also when I Restore My Nandroid Backup (Of ROM1) while i am using some other ROM(ROM 2) .....flash the device into the ROM 1 settings and all the systems settings+apps.???
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yeah rom manager perform nandroid backup
sPaMFouR said:
I am new to this rooting world....I rooted my nexus 4 a week back using Nexus root toolkit v1.8.
I then flashed cm11 onto my phone.
I have TWRP recovery on my phone.
I want a full backup of my apps+data+ROM. How's this possible?? Which of these backups allow this..... And how to do these backups.
Also can anyone explain what a kernel is??
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Although this is not really accurate, but this is as close as I can get to. Think of a phone like a car. The engine part which is essential to make your car runs is your kernel while the body, doors, sidemirrors and everything else are part of a rom. Kernel is in the deeper layer of the system.

[Q] Backing up before flashing rom?

Hi, I want to flash WanamLite ROM to my new Galaxy S4, but last time I flashed WanamLite without backing up I ended up with a generic IMEI, so I need a way to back up my phone and IMEI and all the other important stuff, I can't afford Titanium Backup PRO right now, any other way to backup my phone so I can restore it in case anything goes wrong?
Once you flash a custom recovery like twrp or cwm you can backup your efs folder, you should keep that folder somewhere safe. After that you should make a nandroid backup and also keep this safe incase you want to go back to your stock rom
What I also like to have is my stock firmware on my pc so if anything goes wrong I can flash the stock fw
Edit: you can also backup efs manually but I am not informed about these techniques so I cannot tell you
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Stefan0vic said:
Once you flash a custom recovery like twrp or cwm you can backup your efs folder, you should keep that folder somewhere safe. After that you should make a nandroid backup and also keep this safe incase you want to go back to your stock rom
What I also like to have is my stock firmware on my pc so if anything goes wrong I can flash the stock fw
Edit: you can also backup efs manually but I am not informed about these techniques so I cannot tell you
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I'm already rooted, can I back up the efs before I flash the rom?
galaxynoob1 said:
I'm already rooted, can I back up the efs before I flash the rom?
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There are various efs backups on play such as this although I haven't used them to restore them personally
If you're already rooted then you can also just flash a recovery with sgs4 flasher from the play store. Really nice for keeping updated. Backup efs With the custom recovery, or as the person above me stated, use an app for it
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Problems with nandroid backup restore

I am facing wierd problems after restoring a nandroid backup that i had created. For eg. I am unable to send pictures using whatsapp and also unable to create conversation backups. Google camera is also not saving pictures and crashing. There are similar problems with few apps. Any solutions plz?
I restored stock rom on i9500 after using cm11 for few days. Plz help
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Anyone?
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Hello,
Next time please make a double post only after 24H without an answer, otherwise modify the one before.
CWM and TWRP recoveries don't backup and restore /preload partition, only Philz does. In that partition there are some system apps/services, without them you may have weird errors or something not working at all. The only way to restore stock ROM in your case is to reflash with Odin. Next time use Philz recovery to backup your stock ROM (enabling custom backup and including /preload) if you don't want to use Odin again
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CWM Backup

Hello everyone, I just rooted my Note 3 and want to flash Dr.Ketan's latest room. But I want to make sure that I had a backup of everything like EFS, IMEI, Modem and everything else on my phone. There is a option in CWM recovery of backup. Does this backup backsup everthing? Or any other way of doing full backup?
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