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Neuxs 5 not totally based off the G2, so get the G2 instead ?

I am a big Nexus phone fan, having owned all four of them so far the past few years, but I am an even bigger fan of huge batteries and long battery life in my smartphone.
I was super excited when the G2 came out, knowing that the Nexus 5 would be based off it. Well now the rumors show the N5 having a small 2,300mAh battery, no GRAM, a lesser quality screen display compared to the G2's. Looks like the N5 battery life will be on par with the HTC One or so, I will just get the G2 instead, root it, and install CM10.3. I want a phone I can hammer on all day long, and still have juice left for going out at night, and not having to baby the battery. Only phones that can confidently do that are the Androids with 3,000mAh + size batteries, like the Note 2, Note 3, Moto MAXX.
Do you think the G2 will have a long last development group, and get a ROM port from the Nexus 5, just like the HTC One and Galaxy S4 carrier phones get the ROM's from GPE phones ?

nexus phone are nice but I notice that nexus phones that are made by Samsung and LG have lower specs than there flagship phones.

I would say you shouldn't have anything to worry about. My last phone was an LG Nitro HD with a small community for a phone that basically bombed and we still had official CM, Avatar, and others. No reason to believe that this beast won't get the same in due time. In fact, this community is growing so rapidly, it will soon overtake the Nitro forum and that phone came out in 2011! There is no way this isn't getting major dev love.
By the way, Thanks Devs!

Check out the Optimus G Pro forum if you want to feel better. Even though it only got released in parts of Asia, and with a locked boot loader on AT&T in the US, there's now a rich selection of AOSP base roms available. The G2 will have a MUCH larger user base. So it's only a matter of time. Until then, you might even find the LG skin to be tolerable. After some mods, I actually liked the stock rom on the OGP.

I dont mind stock rom anymore
Nova launcher and Widget locker made things better for me
very stable no lag what so ever so far for me
Im running clean rom
i get 5 hrs easy with normal web browsing/texting
I can get easy 3 1/2 screen time with 2 hours tethering :good:
This thing lasts all day, never really heats up ( i can play modern combat 4 for 30 minutes without it getting super hot)
Get the g2, it will beat the nexus 5 for SURE

Zorachus said:
I am a big Nexus phone fan, having owned all four of them so far the past few years, but I am an even bigger fan of huge batteries and long battery life in my smartphone.
I was super excited when the G2 came out, knowing that the Nexus 5 would be based off it. Well now the rumors show the N5 having a small 2,300mAh battery, no GRAM, a lesser quality screen display compared to the G2's. Looks like the N5 battery life will be on par with the HTC One or so, I will just get the G2 instead, root it, and install CM10.3. I want a phone I can hammer on all day long, and still have juice left for going out at night, and not having to baby the battery. Only phones that can confidently do that are the Androids with 3,000mAh + size batteries, like the Note 2, Note 3, Moto MAXX.
Do you think the G2 will have a long last development group, and get a ROM port from the Nexus 5, just like the HTC One and Galaxy S4 carrier phones get the ROM's from GPE phones ?
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Yes. The G2 is LG's flagship phone.

If the N5 doesn't have the nice big 3,000mAh battery I will get the G2 instead.
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Zorachus said:
If the N5 doesn't have the nice big 3,000mAh battery I will get the G2 instead.
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It's almost certain that the nexus 5 WON'T have the same 3000 mah battery as the G2, it's a smaller phone so there's less room to acomodate the battery, I would be "ok" with a 2600 battery , but a 2300 would be a total deal breaker for me, let's hope google is listening to our complains (one can only wish) :crying:

LG doesn't care how much lower end it will be because they know it will sell in droves just like the iPhone does, lg could stick a single core chip and a 1500mah battery in it and people will still line up to buy it.

RAVPOWER is the answer to your battery concerns -10000 or 15000 mah for $30 -$45
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The Nexus Five will be pure 4.4
It will be better software and better ROMs.
The G2 will be better battery but the N5 battery might be very good. Looks like google has done a lot of battery tweaks to the core services in 4.4. Plus the smaller screen and less bloatware battery life might not be too different.
The G2 will get ROMs but will likely all ways be months behind the Nexus. Hell, the galaxy nexus from 2011 runs pure 4.3.
Camera is still an unkown, 8MP is enough.

currentsupply said:
The Nexus Five will be pure 4.4
It will be better software and better ROMs.
The G2 will be better battery but the N5 battery might be very good. Looks like google has done a lot of battery tweaks to the core services in 4.4. Plus the smaller screen and less bloatware battery life might not be too different.
The G2 will get ROMs but will likely all ways be months behind the Nexus. Hell, the galaxy nexus from 2011 runs pure 4.3.
Camera is still an unkown, 8MP is enough.
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So if we get this 4.4 to LG G2 we end up with !"#"!#%"no words"#!¤"#¤ battery?

moonjak said:
So if we get this 4.4 to LG G2 we end up with !"#"!#%"no words"#!¤"#¤ battery?
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It's going to get it eventually, question is, how long will it take.

I'm still hung up about the locked bootloader. It was such a hindrance on my Bionic that I sold it and bought a Galaxy Nexus. I know there are already custom 4.2.2 roms for the G2, but without the ability to load optimized kernels, I'm just not sure. I'm sure devs will come up the 4.3 and 4.4 roms in time so that doesn't bother me.
I've read that TWRP is available, and that is great, Can one easily boot into it to do backups/restores/flashes like I do on my GNex or does the locked bootloader interfere with that? What are the other downsides of a locked bootloader?

Zorachus said:
I am a big Nexus phone fan, having owned all four of them so far the past few years, but I am an even bigger fan of huge batteries and long battery life in my smartphone.
I was super excited when the G2 came out, knowing that the Nexus 5 would be based off it. Well now the rumors show the N5 having a small 2,300mAh battery, no GRAM, a lesser quality screen display compared to the G2's. Looks like the N5 battery life will be on par with the HTC One or so, I will just get the G2 instead, root it, and install CM10.3. I want a phone I can hammer on all day long, and still have juice left for going out at night, and not having to baby the battery. Only phones that can confidently do that are the Androids with 3,000mAh + size batteries, like the Note 2, Note 3, Moto MAXX.
Do you think the G2 will have a long last development group, and get a ROM port from the Nexus 5, just like the HTC One and Galaxy S4 carrier phones get the ROM's from GPE phones ?
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It never was based off of the G2 in the first place. Other than they both use the Snapdragon 800 chip there is nothing in common at all between the G2 and N5. It is just hopeless fan boys who expected LG to just do a copy+paste from the G2 to make the N5 and assume the exact same specs would appear except the N5 would be stock android. Oh well.

In response to OP, absolutely, the G2 is a beast of a phone, highly unlikely that the N5 will touch it in terms of hardware spec and actual real world performance.

almahix said:
I'm still hung up about the locked bootloader. It was such a hindrance on my Bionic that I sold it and bought a Galaxy Nexus. I know there are already custom 4.2.2 roms for the G2, but without the ability to load optimized kernels, I'm just not sure. I'm sure devs will come up the 4.3 and 4.4 roms in time so that doesn't bother me.
I've read that TWRP is available, and that is great, Can one easily boot into it to do backups/restores/flashes like I do on my GNex or does the locked bootloader interfere with that? What are the other downsides of a locked bootloader?
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I would also like to know the answer to this.

Lg g2 vs moto x dev

So I currently have the g2. But I'm already bored of it. And its "added" features are poorly set up. Was wondering if anyone else has owned the g2 and ended up switching or has owned both. I will be getting my moto x Dev on Thursday cause of the deal they had. Also I notice very few Roms for this phone in xda. Is there somewhere else were there are more?
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socom36252 said:
Also I notice very few Roms for this phone in xda. Is there somewhere else were there are more? \\
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If it's not at XDA, then it's not worth it.
There are builds available at Cyanogenmod site as wel..

keep the G2... it's a much more powerfull phone... just wait for the CyanogenMod ROMs...

There aren't many roms because it's already a mostly stock experience and people use Xposed Framework for a lot of the misc tweaks that custom roms add.
Regarding the G2, I started a similar thread and got a lot of responses including many about the G2 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2553708

I am doing the exact same thing and mine will be here Thursday also

G2 may be more "powerful " on paper. But go read the forums for it. Lots unsatisfied. And it's huge battery yields no better life for most I've seen there than I get on my X.
Stats on paper don't always mean everything.
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I have both phones. I just switched back to the MotoX after a month of the G2. Both are great phones. I will actually keep both and just switch back an forth. But here are my pros/cons of both devices.
MotoX
Great size, very pocketable, and great feeling in the hand.
AMOLED screens are my preferred screen type, but I can definitely tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. The moto x screen is not bad, but it could be better
Near stock android, with quick updates
Not too many ROMs to flash
The Moto additions (touchless controls and active display) are pretty awesome
A wood back would be awesome!
G2
Stock operating system is awful!
Availability of AOSP ROMs to flash (this is a must on the G2!!)
Screen is gorgeous
Size is a little too big for my liking. but the big size makes me type more accurately on the keyboard
Once flashed to CM11, the phone is fast. Never once had a slow down (and that is own beta CM software)
A few issues with CM (volume control for in-call volume, volume on speaker phone, etc.), but I am sure they will be worked out with time. Still pretty functional though
Battery life is insane! I can get two full days of my actual usage without having to make any concessions on one full charge.
Phone does not feel premium. Feels very similar to the Samsung Galaxy S3 and S4. Not cheap per se, but not premium.
Both phones are pretty damn good. Just depends on what you are looking for.
Crackflasher? G2 wins
Great experience without having to mod? Moto X wins
Need touchless controls? Moto X wins
Phenomenal battery life? G2 wins
Matt

Are you happy with it?

So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?

In happy, if the camera was better, I would be happier, but I'll hold out for L in hopes of improved camera performance. If not, I have another upgrade in April, maybe grab a turbo if it doesn't look as bad as it has in the leaked photos.

I'm think off going back the LG G2. The camera may be the breaking point for me.
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I don't take many pictures, but the ones I have taken have been fine. On par with a majority of the smart phones I have owned except a few that were above average. Most of them are just "meh" and any difference is still not great so I just don't let it get to me. If pictures were priority I would still be on the Lumia 930 hands down, or maybe the iPhone 6 plus, but not most of the Android handsets available that's for sure.
Overall I love the phone though. It just a great phone to use and really when it comes down to it that is what matters. There are things that could use improvement (screen brightness, camera, battery life). But none of those factors are BAD, just not exceptional. I get through a day with ease and the screen is fine except in bright sunlight. The phone makes up for it with a great feel and ease of use. Its super fast and fluid, and little things like ActiveDisplay just make it all that much better of an experience. Of all the phones I have owned in the last year (a lot) it is the first one I feel content with and not pining for a new phone (which is rare for me). I am excited for Android L .

I love my Moto X. I too came from a Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMOD and this is so smooth without having to do any tweaking whatsoever. I've had this phone for 11 days and I already try to wave my hand over other people's phones and expect it to just turn on when I pick it up. These may be new features I can't live without.

Short answer....best phone I have ever owned
I came from the HTC One, HTC One M8, and LG G3. Also had the Nexus 5 as my daily driver before leaving it for LG G3. ... This phone trumps them all (still use m8 for low light photos)
The bad......nothing really. The camera and battery are decent enough.....just nothing to brag on.
As far as performance....nothing is close. So smooth...so fast.....so fluid.
The phone screen looks amazing and the stereo headphone jack is provides the best sound I have heard outside of the HTCOne.
No phone is perfect.....but this phone came very close

I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.

soundneedle said:
I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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This is the only downfall for me as well. I want gravitybox so bad. Just for the PIE controls so I can hide the nav bar. That extra screen real estate along with the one handed reachability would make this phone perfect for me.
I don't care about the camera quality, not a big deal for me. And the battery life is sufficient for me.

ChristianPreachr said:
So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
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you'll be happy that L will bring this:
1. power saver built in
2. native code for camera stuff
3. project volt, which is supposed to help in battery
4. ...and much more
right now, there is nothing on the market that I want. so no, i would not switch. next year, maybe

after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho

FLUFFYMANGOES said:
after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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Do you have ART enabled?

This phone is not top heavy, the center of its mass is right in the middle of the phone.
Just balance it on the index finger and you will see.
Best phone I used so far as well. But I never had any flagship devices before. Just a last years moto x, moto g, galaxy i9070... and an HTC one m8 as a phone for work, that's it.
But I saw many friends struggling with flagships while I was enjoying my moto x 2013.
I gave the HTC one m8 back to my boss and use the mx2013 now for my work and the mx2014 for private uses.
The mx2013 gave me an excellent experience, so I had no other choice than buying its successor.
BTW I hated the m8 even compared to the mx2013.
If Motorola doesn't **** it up, I'll buy their devices for a long time.

I could not be happier
Battery life could be bettet but ive yet to run out of it after a full day of work

How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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ChristianPreachr said:
How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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It's in developer options. Don't enable it. Several users have reported an increase in force closes.

It's a bigger, faster, smoother moto x. If you liked the 2013 x but wanted something bigger, this will make you happy.

I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.

robstunner said:
I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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That's what I read from the Motorola feedback network administrator, he said they are "treating the pure edition like the 2013 Dev edition."

I love it, but I am interested in seeing what the Turbo and Nexus 6 bring to table, especially since it'll be on VZW. That being said, jumping to 5.2" from 4.7" was noticeable, can't really imagine carrying around 5.96"...

Still the best phone?

So...after 4 months with the Verizon version, I'm making what I call a "lateral"transfer to the LG G2. Specs are becoming moot. The G2 offers a lot, the battery being a big factor.
Did anyone else let go of there Moto X 2014?
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I'll never let go of the Moto X, best phone ever made. I always sell my old devices to pay for my new ones, but that's not gonna happen this time around. This bad boy is going in the museum when I upgrade.

A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!

I'm finding that the battery isn't holding up long term.I need more. It's great for what it does, but it's a legitimate step back. It's rather disappointing.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!
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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.

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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.
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Good to hear. Hopefully we'll get that in the US soon.

Its the best phone for who dont have an att branded device. I cant unlock it and dont have lollipop.. Next time i will pay more for a pure.

The moto x series is really a breakthrough, this phone is (the) smartphone, I spent an hour or two receiving and responding to messages and calls without touching it not to mention other genius features which are hardware dependent.

Cons: no sd card and no easily removable battery
Pro: everything else
A very nice phone

The battery life is really bad, and has gotten worst. Even with Lollipop, which made it better, I'm not happy. As much as I love the speed of the phone, the battery is killing me hard! The G2 will give me near similar speed with much better battery, not to mention greater storage. This may be on Swappa soon...

I went from a nexus 5 to a G3 to now the moto X² PE and won't give this up unless something crazy comes out or the X³ arrives.
I have not had any battery issues with this phone as I consistently get 4.5 hrs SOT with 12+ hours total. I will say that the camera on the G3 was much better, but the moto X isn't horrible. And the hands free/voice actions with this phone are second to none.
That's just my humble opinion though.

As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.

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As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.
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I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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ChristianPreachr said:
I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.

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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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My feelings exactly. I really, really didn't like how the Turbo was built and even though the G3 build in my opinion is sleek, it's nothing special compared to the X. I've never used either phone as a daily driver, so I may not be the best one to judge it, but the Moto X is blazing fast with "good enough" features that work for me as a user who just wants to get through the day being able to use features like Google Now, something I was never able to keep on with my previous phones. The experience of the X is perfect for an everyday user, like most people are, and in my opinion that's what matters most in a phone. Again, I may have bias as this is my only phone I have been using.

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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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ChristianPreachr said:
Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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I never said numbers lie, but they aren't always representative of the actual experience that the phone provides. If numbers meant everything, than the iPhone would have the worst battery life and performance of any smartphone out there, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. The same applies to the X. While the Turbo has better numbers, the X has the better UX. I don't see how the X isn't enough for a power user, I'm the very definition of a power user and it is pretty much everything I can ask for in a smartphone, with storage being the sole exception. Who cares if you have to put Nova launcher on it? That has no bearing on the quality of the phone itself. At least it doesn't have a nasty UI like the G2 does, even Nova cant save it from LG's hideous software, not to mention the plastic fantastic build. But everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you think the G2 will serve your needs better, than that's wonderful. For me, the X is where its at.

hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions

jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
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and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
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old generation phone vs new one. I really have no doubt which one to buy between 2 candidates.
maybe take a look to lg products or htc but don't make a step into the past.

jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions
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I have and use both of those phones regularly and while the N5 is still a beast of a phone, the Moto X is easily the better of the two. The software mods that Motorola has done don't affect performance at all, and actually go a long way to making the Moto X what it is. Moto Display and Moto Voice are game changers. Gaming performance is great on both devices but slightly better on the Moto X. I can't say anything about lollipop because I don't like it at all and am keeping all my devices on KitKat indefinitely. If you get the X, which you should, make sure you buy the Pure Edition or at least one that's not branded by a carrier who doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. You need that unlockable bootloader in order to be able to root the phone.

Moto X Play or LG G3

Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!

What phone are you moving on from?

gekkeman said:
Hey there!
I've recently been looking for a new smartphone. I found two smartphones I like: the Motorola X Play and the LG G3. Problem is, I just can't decide which one to pick. Can somebody please help me out? Thank you in advance!
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LG G3 - A yesteryear "FLAGSHIP"
MOTO X PLAY - A newer "MIDRANGER"
Hope you know what to expect from these respective devices.

Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
Hope it helps

Chaotic-Entropy said:
What phone are you moving on from?
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I'm currently using a Microsoft Lumia 640.

richardrs123 said:
Hi had 2 g3 superb phone specially the 4k screen but battery poor
Moto x play superb battery and performance
However the G3 let's you choose which apps go full screen no soft keys at the bottom without the needs of root or apps
Something I really miss going to x play
Plus the firmware upgrade are pants still waiting for marshmallow to come out officially here
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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.

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I thought G3 had 2K screen?
Anyway, thanks for your comment! I'll take it into consideration.
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My mistake pressed wrong key lol

After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.

ToYeD said:
After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
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Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?

gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.

Motorola build quality is better than LG's, and the X Play is a nicer object to hold, look at, and use than the G3.

I have both phones right in front of me right now..... and I prefer the LG G3.
Out of the box... the G3 has a nicer firmware with a LOT more options.
On the other hand, Motorolla has Marshmallow updates.
Pros LG G3
- much better camera, even if less pixels, the image quality is a lot clearer and less grainy. The laser focus helps a lot.
-better screen resolution (quad HD)
- more RAM (3Gb)
- removable battery
- 32gb of space
- to me, i feel the LG g3 feels less cheap than the motorolla, specially the buttons on the side of the motorolla feels cheap. Also dont like the fake leather back cover.
- phone speaker is louder. (not the loudspeaker)
-more cases and accessories atm. Lots of custom roms, easy to root and stuff.
Pros Moto X play
- brighter screen, more vibrant colors
- better battery life, but its also a bigger battery (but its non removable)
- 21mp camera in 4:3 mode..... but its very grainy. It has better low light performances than the G3 a little... but again... the result is VERY grainy.
- loudspeaker is louder than G3 but not as nice sounding
- good front camera
- bigger 8 core CPU
- faster in some apps, but not in everything.
So yeah.... I made my choice on the LG for the more customizable interface out of the box and the much better camera.
Other than that..... really similar phone. Performance are both nice and fast. they both have some apps they perform better than the other but cant really give a winner there.

ToYeD said:
After using a Nexus 5 for a couple years I was ready to move on to something with a larger screen. I initially went with the LG G3 and I liked the experience. The phone was snappy and did better than the Nexus 5 in benchmarks. However, I had what seemed to be a not so rare yet not so common issue. The phone would randomly shut off by itself and require a battery pull and reseat before it would turn back on. I had to pull the battery, hold the power button for 15 seconds and then reseat the battery. Happened every day, some days twice. Now I may have just gotten unlucky but I've read reports on various forums about this issue. Turns out on some of the G3s the molding of the battery compartment isn't fitted to the size of the battery properly, so the battery can shift to the side losing contact with the phone.
I took it back to the store and they didn't have any more G3s in stock to swap it out for so I opted for the Moto X Play. Under Lollipop the X Play has some performance issues, specifically when it comes to scrollable apps like Chrome. They tend to micro stutter and freeze while scrolling. Under Marshmallow the issue is largely resolved. It still happens but not nearly as often. There also seems to be an issue with performance drop over time. I have to factory reset every few weeks otherwise the phone slows right down to a crawl. The X Play is a mid range device with a SoC that is known to be lackluster (SnapDragon 615). It's priced accordingly. Theoretically it should be better than the G3 by a little bit since that SoC is technically a 64bit chip, however Motorola has stuck to only releasing 32bit builds for it so that theoretical performance advantage is not there. The G3 performs better in benchmarks.
It comes down to a simple choice.
LG G3 - Better performance with worse battery life.
Moto X Play - Much better battery life with worse performance.
Both devices should cost about the same.
After my experience with both devices I plan on buying either a Nexus 5X or Nexus 6P outright. I love the battery life in the X Play however having to factory reset every few weeks is a pain and Motorola just isn't as fast with updates anymore. They used to be, but with this phone there is no official communication so there is no telling when updates are being released, its hard to find fastboot flashable factory images (Only in a thread here on XDA and its filefactory so downloads are really slow) and updates are only marginally faster than other manufacturers.
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I had to reset only once after updating to 6.0. Since then it's working fine. The lags are no more in 6.0.
Also sd615 has newer architecture so doesnt mean, it's better. It's still a mid range chip (615) and Motorola did the right thing by not providing the 64 but software. G3's maybe an old chip but that was a flagship chip and still is which has better performance than this newer chip.
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ToYeD said:
Nothing concrete. Just a couple of others on these forums reporting the same, but a couple people doesn't mean it's an across the board issue. It's probably just an issue with a small fraction of the X plays produced. All I know is it was a hard decision going from a Nexus to a non Nexus device and my experience made it easy to decide to go back. You may not have any of these issues with either the g3 or the X Play.
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Okey, thanks a lot!

I also had the same dilema. Went with the Moto X Play and a month later I know I made the right choice. Amazing design, great screen, amazing battery life and stock android is WAY WAY WAY better then LG`s nasty UI. Oh am I am getting updates haha.

obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.

gekkeman said:
Okey, clear! Thanks for this information! Greatly aprreciated! I think I'll go with the Moto. You said you reset the phone regularly, because if you don't it will eventually become very slow. Do you have any knowledge whether this is a common problem?
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Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.

joeanca said:
Hey I thought I'd give my thoughts. I've owned both and I gotta say although I loved the G3, after having the battery life of the x play I could not go back. As far as the slowing down if you are in XDA and flashing roms then that's not something I would be too concerned with in the near future (say 2 years). I also found no matter which rom I used on the G3 it seemed to want to overheat a lot. Just my thoughts, hope it helps.
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Could you tell me something about what roms exactly are?

I see them as operating systems for the phone, think of the equivalent of different versions of Windows for your phone (XP, Windows 7, or 10) they key here is that they are somewhat personalized and give you different looks and functions that perhaps your stock experience wouldn't. An example of this is better battery life, or options such as changing the look of the whole user experience. They also, and for the most part, enhance your phones capabilities(responsiveness and security) and give you quicker updates than lg or Motorola would. Hope this helps.
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bablu048 said:
obviously MXP , how many phones out there give 10hours of SOT and that's with dual sim ??
I will gladly trade a few cores for extra SOT.
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You're absolutely right. I've made up my mind and decided to go with the Moto. All I have to do now is find a carrier that meets my needs, order the phone and enjoy it;s great features, one of which is the great SOT!