[Q] GS5 900F Clock/Time bug? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

As per usual, I get the weirdest bugs/faults with my devices!
Just got a new S5 32GB from Singapore (900F variant). Was on holiday there, and they don't have that version in Australia where I live. Anyway, I tested the heck out of the thing while I was there, as the warranty is only valid in Singapore, and I wanted to tease out any hardware faults early.
When I was changing the SIM card once, I noticed that the system time had lagged a significant amount while the phone was off. In fact, if you turn it off and take out the battery for long enough, the time can change to several days in the past! To the best of my knowledge, modern phones, like PCs, keep accurate time even with the phone battery removed. I have confirmed this with my old S3, as well as other Samsung phones at the store.
After several visits to the local service center in Singapore, I finally convinced them to change the mainboard. After the repair, the problem was still present.
Has anyone else experienced this? Or can they test this? I keep the Auto time Update settings always off, and have done that for all my phones.
Changing of the main board would seem to exclude a hardware issue, but then there were some questions as to whether the main board was actually replaced by the repair center. The online tracking of the repair order ended in 'unable to be done due to request cancelled', which made me *really* suspicious, and the IMEI and serial numbers remained the same. Have never dealt with Samsung in Singapore before, so not sure how things work there. That's another story though, I suppose...

Update: Have gotten the phone back in my actual hands, and tinkered more with the problem. Have noticed that after a battery pull, the system time seems to default back to certain points in time (this time, 2118hrs, 18th July 2014).
Can anyone try a battery pull (leaving the battery out for a few minutes) with Auto Time Update off to see if this happens to their S5?
Thanks!

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[Q] Camera icon gone, camera not startable

I turned on my phone last night, pressed the camera icon in the list of programs and it disappeared and hasn't come back since?????
Then went to the picture and movie tab and pressed the camera tab (both for taking picture and movie) and nothing happens, no camera launches.
I've had the phone sitting in the cupboard for days and it's cold where I live so I wonder if it's possible that the camera hardware has frozen and the icon disappears because the system cannot detect working hardware?
I don't know but my phone is out of warranty and I am worried.
Would flashing a new ROM help do you think?
normally your phone should not be out of warranty yet, since htc offers a 24 months warranty.
and if the camera worked with your rom before, changing the rom should not be necessary, but maybe a radio/rilphone upgrade would help or a hard reset.
Thanks for the reply
I've emailed the local distributor of my phone (bad reputation for replies) who paralell import it from singapore so I might be out of luck.
Done several hard resets and also warmed the phone up to see if the camera hardware was maybe stuck from the cold but no luck.
Tried to burn a new rom (The EnergyRom looked good) and the software keeps complaining that it lost communication with the phone so I can't even do that. Tried 10 times already.
So, I guess I have to wait for the supplier but they said the warranty is only one year.
afaik htc generally offers a 2 year warranty, so they are probably the ones, you'd want to contact about that issue, but before actually sending it to them, make sure to flash back the stock rom, radio and spl.
As I said above, I tried burning a new rom but the software keeps complaining that it loses communication with the phone so I've given up.
Thanks for the suggestions though.
I absolutely agree with Chef_Tony.
You've tried enough to exclude everything. It must be a hardware issue.
I think you can check the production date via the sn below the batt. I would just go ahead with HTC and call them, and NOT your local dealer.
You can also open a ticket online but from my experience that is a waste of time since they will start asking stuff to do and email them again.
HTC provides 24 months of warranty in most areas and the sn will be enough for them to decide if it is warranty or not.
Also do not mention the custom roms as that will void your warranty, even if the issue was there on the stock rom!
So go back to everything stock, everything that you need is in the sticky on the rom page, and give HTC a call.
The ROM is a stock one. I mentioned in my above post that when I tried to burn a new one that the phone lost comms so I never could get a new rom on to test if the camera would come back so I am still stock.
HTC mentioned all the same things you guys did.
Spoke to my supplier, looks like I have to send this back. Damnation!!!!!
Okay, made a few mistakes about trying a new rom but under severe pressure since my father died so I can't comprehend much at the moment.
Will try all the steps later when I am less distressed.
Sellers have gone, phone is worse.
Just to update people, this post can be locked now.
Blue Fly Mobile are gone, nobody can find them. They told me to send the phone back for repairs and when I was just about to, they turned up missing.
Web site is gone, no contact anywhere and I read in many forums about their bad rep.
Camera still gone. Battery may last a day if that. Phone randomly cuts of calls when I make them or when people make them to me.
Looks like I will be waiting for the new Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 when it hits OZ as it's better for my eyes.
Now, how to convince my wife that I absolutely need it???

i337M Abrupt Signal Loss

Hi everyone,
So about five days ago I was in the middle of using my Galaxy S4 (I think I was playing a game or something) and all of the sudden my cellular signal dropped out completely—from 4 bars to zero with a little X in it. There it's remained ever since.
My first thought was that I ought to reboot the thing and see if that would solve anything. The answer was no.
My second thought was that maybe my contract was up (as that was due to happen this month), and rather than auto-renewing, they kicked me off. Weird, but possible. But that's not it: I phoned up my provider and they said that all systems are go, there are no outages, your account is active for a week still, and even past that contract expiry I'll just get bumped to month-to-month and never experience a blip in service. So that's not it.
So then I put my SIM in another unlocked phone, and lo-and-behold, it connects just fine. So clearly the problem is with my phone.
My i337M is running Liquid Smooth 2.9 and KToonSez' kernel. I decided to make a nandroid and flash back to stock ROM/kernel. Still I could not connect to the network.
I can only think of two potential problems. First, I unlocked the phone myself via FastGSM.com's tethered USB method. It was a Bell-locked phone, and I'm on Rogers. This was accomplished back in July, and since then, there haven't been any issues to speak of (i.e., the unlock worked flawlessly). I tried to see if those unlocks ever expire, and couldn't find any reason why they ought to. I personally don't think it's that, but I mention it out of interest in being thorough.
Second, I messed around with my phones NVData a few weeks back to enable the AWS network via this method. I didn't experience any signal problems after doing so. Again I mention this out of interests of being thorough. Could that have had something to do with it? I suppose I could try flashing back my original NVData, but honestly I don't see why that would suddenly kick in now since I did it weeks ago originally.
Any thoughts? This is really bizarre, and it sucks being without connection.
I was also thinking of flashing back to stock and going to a Bell shop to see what happens when I put a tester SIM in.
It sounds to me like it's hardware related. Don't see anything you've done that would have caused it. I'd flash back to stock and if it still persists I'd file a warranty claim.
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Hi, thanks for your reply.
An additional thought's occurred to me: I lost signal at or about the same day I setup Android Device Manager to allow for remote lock/wipe directly from Google. That couldn't possibly be responsible for signal loss, could it...?
Currently flashing back to stock, and I'll unroot/restore kernel/restore NVData and make it look factory, and see what the store says about it. Hopefully I don't have to pay for another unlock at some point.
Okay, this is very messed up. Nobody has any idea why my phone isn't getting signal. I can scan for networks and everything shows up, but in any case with any SIM it says "unable to connect to network". It doesn't matter what ROM I'm on. I flashed back to stock and updated to latest using KIES of all things, which found a firmware/modem/baseband update, and still no dice. I don't know what to do with this thing except take it to an unlocking store that might be able to figure something out for me, but it'll cost me. This is messed, I've never had to get someone else to look at my tech for me.
Okay, so the situation is that it most probably is a hardware failure related to the radio.
I am a Rogers customer who bought the phone from a guy from CraigsList who apparently got it from Bell. I went into Bell and explained the situation, and they scanned the IMEI and printed me out a proof of purchase of the guy's name and told me I should take that to the Bell service centre, and it doesn't matter if I'm not the guy. I also had them check to see if he reported the phone stolen; it turns out he did not—though it should be known that if he had done so, then that could have very well been the reason I wasn't getting signal from anyone, as all providers across Canada apparently share their blacklists with one another now (including the little guys like Wind/Mobilicity).
So now I am in the process of making it look like it's never ever been hacked before: I shall restore my NVData, unroot, and update everything using KIES, and then perform a factory data reset. I'm also on the hunt to figure out what the heck the "flash counter" is and whether or not I need to reset that, but perhaps since mine is the i337M Canadian variant, I don't need to worry about that. (Any advice on restoring my phone to factory condition would be welcome, thanks.)
Edit: Figured out TriangleAway and everything associated. I'm all stock now and ready to bring it back to the factory.
MAJOR UPDATE: PROBLEM IDENTIFIED
So I got my phone back from the factory today. They reported that everything is 100% a-ok on the hardware/software side of things. The radio IC is NOT blown as was suspected.
You know what they said? The problem is on the network. I have a story to tell that I think people should hear, as I've learned something very valuable today and people need to learn this lest they get conned themselves.
Today I phoned in Rogers again, armed with new information, to ask what's up. They ran the IMEI number, and this time... it's come up on the blacklist.
It wasn't there last week. In fact, it wasn't even there an hour ago. It actually only appeared there as the clock ticked past midnight Eastern time... as that is EXACTLY 90 days from when the phone was reported missing. It took them a long time to track down this information.
To reiterate, I did not steal the phone. I bought it from a guy on Craigslist who had it brand new in box with the screen-protector sticker still on the front of it. I checked it out, tried it, and unlocked it myself and have been using it since July without issue, until a week ago.
There is the trouble of, why now? Why only now does the IMEI come up blocked? What the senior rep at Rogers thinks happened was that the guy had it delivered to his house, didn't sign for it, kept it in box, reported it as "undelivered", and flipped it to me for cash. Insurance has meanwhile hooked him up with a new phone, and the factory kept my phone in the "we're looking for it" pile for the requisite 90 days, after which they officially publish its IMEI as "blacklisted". That would explain why it worked for a while but doesn't now; and this 90-day TO THE DAY period is the same for Rogers as it is for AT&T apparently (which is where the rep used to work for 10+ years).
I am in possession of stolen property. I've little hope of recuperating my losses. I've been advised to file a police report, and I think I will actually, given that I've got a receipt with the "anonymous" guy from Craigslist's name on it which I had printed out from Bell after they scanned the IMEI number for my factory warranty receipt. This phone will officially never work in Canada, as there is no way for it to be removed from the blacklist. I've been very unfortunate in this case, and it's a real shame.
People should take note: If buying a phone, ALWAYS do it in-store and have the IMEI number run first to check and see if it's on the blacklist. Next, have the phone transferred into your name so that the IMEI and you are officially linked, and the guy can't report his gear stolen or lost. That should suffice in most cases... except in the case of insurance fraud, which is my case, where there is a 90-day delay period in the IMEI number being added to the blacklist (which is why it didn't come up on the blacklist last week when I had the Bell rep run it in-store for me). Another point of interest is that in my case, I found it was possible to lose service BEFORE the number is on the blacklist—assuming the Bell guy didn't run the number wrong last week.
So f**k me. All I can do is try to hack the number, I guess, or find a way to spoof the IMEI.
Edit: Unf***ing believeable—I somehow reenabled data and texting by messing around with QPST. Calls still not happening, though.

[Q] Root/Warrant Question Australia

My SGS4 recently stopped working - basically what happened was that it doesn't seem to be drawing power from the battery. The phone will turn on when plugged in (but soon power off), and will show as charging when first plugged into charger (but not charge). However if I unplug it, it won't turn on.
The phone is rooted, and running a custom, Samsung based ROM.
I have tried using a different battery, and the stock battery fully charged with an external charger - and the phone still won't turn on. It's clearly a hardware related issue - drawing current from the battery. I've also tried turning the phone on in download mode, and recovery mode. Both of which do the same as a standard boot - ie. turn on for a while, then turn off.
The phone, being only about 6 months old, was still within warranty period, so I took the phone to Telstra. Not surprisingly, Telstra have said that as there is a Custom ROM on the phone, the warrant is voided. I stated that my understanding is that under Australian law, as it is a hardware fault, and not a fault caused by the ROM, the warranty still stands - however Telstra wouldn't budge and said I have 5 days to decide if I want to pay the $300+ for the repair.
What is my next course of action? Has anybody had a similar issue previously? Is the TIO the next port of call? Or should I be going to NSW Department of Fair Trading?
I'm sure I've read previously that phones are still covered under warranty after rooting etc, if it can be shown that it's a hardware fault, not a software fault. As the battery doesn't seem to be powering the phone, this clearly seems to be the case - esp. as it is the same in download mode and recovery mode.
Any help would be great. Please don't post pointing out that I rooted my phone so THAT's my own fault etc. These posts aren't helpful, I already have know that.
is it too late to throw the original Telstra ROM on it and take it back to another store? If you were careful you would still be on the old bootloader, so there shouldn't be any KNOX concerns.
Thanks for the response.
It may not be too late, however I cannot flash it, as the phone won't stay on for more than a second or two. Even in download mode.
I was on the old bootloader, yes. So knox is fine.
abbaskip said:
Thanks for the response.
It may not be too late, however I cannot flash it, as the phone won't stay on for more than a second or two. Even in download mode.
I was on the old bootloader, yes. So knox is fine.
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Thats good to hear that your still on oldbootloader but the problem still will remain if you cant do something about it. Can you pls pull the battery out for atleast 5 to 10 minutes to let it settle abit and put it back after. Thanks
Edit: Would you mind checking your battery Serial S/N if it starts with BD ? thank you.
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I am not too sure about Australian law but under EU law you are fine. This does not however apply to the rest of the world.
Either way if you have rooted outisde EU you are pretty much done for (unless there is a law). its extremely hard to prove that your rooting / apps or whatever you have on it has not caused the Hardware fault.
I understand that it is battery not charging etc, is there anyway while phone is connected directly to mains to flash it from usb card? if you could do this and 'unroot' the phone it should be stock or give you enough to trick kies into allowing you to update?
Its a pity you cannot power it through your PC and enter download mode and flash.. (or can you?)
Repulsa said:
Thats good to hear that your still on oldbootloader but the problem still will remain if you cant do something about it. Can you pls pull the battery out for atleast 5 to 10 minutes to let it settle abit and put it back after. Thanks
Edit: Would you mind checking your battery Serial S/N if it starts with BD ? thank you.
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Hi,
It's definitely no fault of the battery. I've tried various batteries, left the phone without a battery for days etc. (See this thread for details of this issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2581229&page=2)
Battery serial starts AA.
A|ex said:
I am not too sure about Australian law but under EU law you are fine. This does not however apply to the rest of the world.
Either way if you have rooted outisde EU you are pretty much done for (unless there is a law). its extremely hard to prove that your rooting / apps or whatever you have on it has not caused the Hardware fault.
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I think that's the issue here. Basically a big company taking advantage of the small man. They have the upper hand, they know it, so they force you to pay.
It has to be a hardware fault, based on all of the behaviour (ie. phone booting in all modes - but dying in a handful of seconds), but it's easy for them to wash their hands of the warrant, by saying I modified the device - even if it is irrelevant to the problem.
I understand that it is battery not charging etc, is there anyway while phone is connected directly to mains to flash it from usb card? if you could do this and 'unroot' the phone it should be stock or give you enough to trick kies into allowing you to update?
Its a pity you cannot power it through your PC and enter download mode and flash.. (or can you?)
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Unfortunately not. Even when the phone powers up, it shows 0% and shuts down very soon after. If I plug it into the PC, then turn it on, it powers up and again turns off not long after. This same behaviour carries across to download mode and recovery mode. ie. It boots, but then dies within a few seconds.
Think I'll complain to the ombudsman.
Based on the Australian law, the ombudsman can assist as follows:
The TIO has jurisdiction to investigate complaints about faulty mobile handsets where the handset is supplied as part of a contractual relationship, between the TIO Member carrier or carriage service provider and the complainant, which involves the provision of a carriage service to be accessed via that handset.
The TIO does not have jurisdiction to investigate complaints where the customer supplies the handset (i.e. they have purchased it outright and separately from their purchase of network services), or where the initial contract has expired and the customer retains and continues to use the handset. Where appropriate, the TIO will refer out-of-jurisdiction complaints to the relevant Department of Fair Trading or Consumer Affairs.
This position statement does not relate to any manufacturer's warranty. The TIO will investigate complaints about faulty handsets provided as part of a bundled service, even where the initial handset warranty period may have expired.
Under the TIO's Operational Guidelines the TIO will only investigate complaints about faulty handsets where the fault is caused by an inherent defect or otherwise and is not caused by misuse by the customer. The TIO may also decline to investigate a complaint where a customer has not produced a handset for inspection/assessment after being asked to do so by their provider or the TIO.
As the defect was not caused by myself - as the rooting and custom software did not lead to the hardware defect, I believe it falls under the TIO jurisdiction.
As a long shot would a juice pack for a S4 work such as a morphie as you can charge and also sync? (not sure if the phone uses the pack or whether the pack is used to charge the battery, if the latter it will not work for you)
or maybe a mains powered dock and usb cable to PC?
Given TIO is able to look at something like this as the handset is bundled, go to them. Better them than CA/FT/whomever, as TIO is the specialist industry body.
Or....This sounds like it may be a simple USB board/port failure which is quick/easy/cheap (maybe 15 bucks) to replace yourself. You could always try that, and if that doesn't end up being the issue then go the TIO route.
MistahBungle said:
Given TIO is able to look at something like this as the handset is bundled, go to them. Better them than CA/FT/whomever, as TIO is the specialist industry body.
Or....This sounds like it may be a simple USB board/port failure which is quick/easy/cheap (maybe 15 bucks) to replace yourself. You could always try that, and if that doesn't end up being the issue then go the TIO route.
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I don't believe it's a usb port failure, as fully charged batteries haven't worked. It's not the USB port that's issue, but that the phone isn't drawing current from the battery.
A|ex said:
As a long shot would a juice pack for a S4 work such as a morphie as you can charge and also sync? (not sure if the phone uses the pack or whether the pack is used to charge the battery, if the latter it will not work for you)
or maybe a mains powered dock and usb cable to PC?
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What's a juice pack?
I have a dock, bit it has the same issue as charging direct - the phone turns off after about one second
So the latest news – I tried to phone the store again and this Telstra Shop NEVER answer their phone – I have their direct local line, given to me by the Telstra Call Centre, and even tried calling them as I walked through the door – as I'd tried calling throughout the day with no answer. The phone on the desks rang, and was ignored by staff who were standing around having a conversation. Sure explains why they weren't answering the phone throughout the day! So anyway, after not getting through to the store, I called the Telstra Call Centre again, explained the situation, and that I was quoted ~$350 for the quote. The operator looked into it, put me into someone who was escalating the case. After a short chat, the person said they'd call me back after speaking to the tech, getting all the details etc etc. Long story short, they call me back and gave me a waiver code. Said that I can request the store repair the phone, and give that waiver which will mean I'm not charged.
I went into the Telstra store this evening (which is after I kept trying to call them all day as above), and told them the situation. They didn't understand why I was telling them, and said I needed to tell the tech centre – who they can't provide contact number for (and who had told me when giving me the quote to respond to the store within 5 working days). Eventually a guy that knew what he was doing explained to my staff member that he just needed to email/message the tech responsible, provide the waiver and confirm to go ahead with repairs.
Now I've just got to wait for the call saying my phone is ready to be picked up Hopefully they don't stuff that up!!
abbaskip said:
So the latest news – I tried to phone the store again and this Telstra Shop NEVER answer their phone – I have their direct local line, given to me by the Telstra Call Centre, and even tried calling them as I walked through the door – as I'd tried calling throughout the day with no answer. The phone on the desks rang, and was ignored by staff who were standing around having a conversation. Sure explains why they weren't answering the phone throughout the day! So anyway, after not getting through to the store, I called the Telstra Call Centre again, explained the situation, and that I was quoted ~$350 for the quote. The operator looked into it, put me into someone who was escalating the case. After a short chat, the person said they'd call me back after speaking to the tech, getting all the details etc etc. Long story short, they call me back and gave me a waiver code. Said that I can request the store repair the phone, and give that waiver which will mean I'm not charged.
I went into the Telstra store this evening (which is after I kept trying to call them all day as above), and told them the situation. They didn't understand why I was telling them, and said I needed to tell the tech centre – who they can't provide contact number for (and who had told me when giving me the quote to respond to the store within 5 working days). Eventually a guy that knew what he was doing explained to my staff member that he just needed to email/message the tech responsible, provide the waiver and confirm to go ahead with repairs.
Now I've just got to wait for the call saying my phone is ready to be picked up Hopefully they don't stuff that up!!
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Congrats on the Win! but i bet they will slap you in the face with KNOX
You mean they'll put me on the new BL? Yes, I'm sure of it. Tech centres always do a factory reset and load the latest firmware. They give you a warranty on the repair, so they ensure all is stock.
If you mean they will refuse to repair because of knox, I'm confident they won't. I'm on the old BL, and even so I've been given the quote and waiver for the quote already.
My phone has been returned in working order. Of course, Telstra being Telstra, I was told that they couldn't add the waiver at the shop, so we would be billed, and then have to apply for a credit.
Oh, and they've updated to a Knox enabled ROM obviously but that was expected
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OnePlus Repair Center: How they just change software instead of changing broken parts

Hello OnePlus X users and Oneplus users in general. After a lot of **** I decided to make this thread to point out my issues and my experience with Oneplus and OnePlus in general. This will be a long thread so sit down, take some snacks and “enjoy”.
(Thread will be posted on XDA, Op forums and Reddit.)
My OnePlus X
About 4 months ago I was using my phone and noticed something. It was getting really hot without doing any heavy tasks. I couldn't remember this happening before. I wasn't thinking much about it but I looked a bit more on the temperature of the phone in the next few days, and what I saw was that the temperature was not OK at all. My phone temperature was higher than normal. And the temperature came from the position where the CPU was placed. From this point of time I tought I could live with it..but I couldn't. I also found someone else with the same problem. He encouraged me to send my phone to OnePlus and let them repair it. This was the day.. And this was maybe the biggest fault in my life.
I got my phone back and I was so happy because the days without my phone were horrible, not be able to call and message is really annoying. I was also happy because I thought I had a completely working phone now.
But no...
First I noticed that the phone has a strange version of oxygen os installed. On the power button screen I saw a "report bugs" button. It maybe was a developer version but I'm not sure about that. The device was also a little bit hotter than average. I tried to flash twrp but it wasn't working. It gave me errors over errors. I tried to flashed an official version of OOS. I could flash it but twrp still wasn't working there. It gave me errors again.
The next day I finally managed to install twrp(version 3.0) but when I tried to flash or wipe something it gave me errors.
It took me a day to figure out what to do.
I tried to change the file system of my partitions. It removed the errors but gave new ones.
Like Error 7.
OnePlus changed the device identification. I couldn't flash any rom without editing it, not even OOS. After editing the rom a bit I managed to flash it. Well.. I got it flashed but I got a bootloop then. I tried it several times and gave up. I even tried every file system possible and wiped anything through twrp and through fastboot. It just wasn't working for me. I also tried it with OOS. And guess what… it wasn't working either. Same with the oneplus recovery.
Next day again. I finally flashed oos through the oneplus recovery somehow. I got a working system.
In the next day I was confident enough to try and flash twrp.
It was working. I flashed a rom. Everything was fine until I noticed something. The heat. The heat came back. And this is not a little heat around the CPU, no this is 50-70°C which spreads around the device.
The best thing comes now.
I looked at the paperwork they sent back with the package. They just changed the software nothing else. No new cpu. With that I lost my trust into OnePlus.
The heat
Let’s talk a bit more in depth about the heat.
It all started 4 months ago, my phone was always cold, a little bit of heat while gaming but no problems at all. Suddently it started to heat.
The temperatures raised above 50 for the first time. I asked around in various OnePlus groups on Telegram and even made a post on XDA. Almost no one had the same problem.
Only me and Nico seemed to have the exact same problem. We tried everything: wiping, underclocking, changing governor, flashed ROM’s (like sultan, but it didn’t change).
There were moments that the heat was above 70°C, I couldn’t even hold my device anymore.
Alot of people convinced me to contact OnePlus customer support.
OnePlus Repair center failed!
The customer support created a ticket for me and I was preparing my device for shipping.
UPS picked up my phone and I needed to wait 15 days untill my device returned. That was no problem for me.
I got a message: my phone was arrived in my country, I picked it up.
I was so excited no more heat! But I was really wrong about that. The heat was back!
I was so dissapointed. I checked the shipping papers and I saw this:
OnePlus B2C Hotline
Repair text from repair center
Legacy data deleted
Functional test conducted
Settings set
Software update conducted
They just changed something in the software part! It is a hardware problem, changing OS won't help at all!
At this point I don’t know anymore.
OnePlus “scammed” me, more then a week of wait and the issue isn’t even fixed.
I lost my trust in OnePlus.
Remeber what is one the OnePlus boxes ?
“Created together with our fans”
Then serve your fans, fix their problems!
They sucks on customer service.
They just changed the software nothing else. No new cpu
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you mean they should have changed phone's CPU for you ?
BruintjeDeBart said:
Hello OnePlus X users and Oneplus users in general. After a lot of **** I decided to make this thread to point out my issues and my experience with Oneplus and OnePlus in general. This will be a long thread so sit down, take some snacks and “enjoy”.
(Thread will be posted on XDA, Op forums and Reddit.)
My OnePlus X
About 4 months ago I was using my phone and noticed something. It was getting really hot without doing any heavy tasks. I couldn't remember this happening before. I wasn't thinking much about it but I looked a bit more on the temperature of the phone in the next few days, and what I saw was that the temperature was not OK at all. My phone temperature was higher than normal. And the temperature came from the position where the CPU was placed. From this point of time I tought I could live with it..but I couldn't. I also found someone else with the same problem. He encouraged me to send my phone to OnePlus and let them repair it. This was the day.. And this was maybe the biggest fault in my life.
I got my phone back and I was so happy because the days without my phone were horrible, not be able to call and message is really annoying. I was also happy because I thought I had a completely working phone now.
But no...
First I noticed that the phone has a strange version of oxygen os installed. On the power button screen I saw a "report bugs" button. It maybe was a developer version but I'm not sure about that. The device was also a little bit hotter than average. I tried to flash twrp but it wasn't working. It gave me errors over errors. I tried to flashed an official version of OOS. I could flash it but twrp still wasn't working there. It gave me errors again.
The next day I finally managed to install twrp(version 3.0) but when I tried to flash or wipe something it gave me errors.
It took me a day to figure out what to do.
I tried to change the file system of my partitions. It removed the errors but gave new ones.
Like Error 7.
OnePlus changed the device identification. I couldn't flash any rom without editing it, not even OOS. After editing the rom a bit I managed to flash it. Well.. I got it flashed but I got a bootloop then. I tried it several times and gave up. I even tried every file system possible and wiped anything through twrp and through fastboot. It just wasn't working for me. I also tried it with OOS. And guess what… it wasn't working either. Same with the oneplus recovery.
Next day again. I finally flashed oos through the oneplus recovery somehow. I got a working system.
In the next day I was confident enough to try and flash twrp.
It was working. I flashed a rom. Everything was fine until I noticed something. The heat. The heat came back. And this is not a little heat around the CPU, no this is 50-70°C which spreads around the device.
The best thing comes now.
I looked at the paperwork they sent back with the package. They just changed the software nothing else. No new cpu. With that I lost my trust into OnePlus.
The heat
Let’s talk a bit more in depth about the heat.
It all started 4 months ago, my phone was always cold, a little bit of heat while gaming but no problems at all. Suddently it started to heat.
The temperatures raised above 50 for the first time. I asked around in various OnePlus groups on Telegram and even made a post on XDA. Almost no one had the same problem.
Only me and Nico seemed to have the exact same problem. We tried everything: wiping, underclocking, changing governor, flashed ROM’s (like sultan, but it didn’t change).
There were moments that the heat was above 70°C, I couldn’t even hold my device anymore.
Alot of people convinced me to contact OnePlus customer support.
OnePlus Repair center failed!
The customer support created a ticket for me and I was preparing my device for shipping.
UPS picked up my phone and I needed to wait 15 days untill my device returned. That was no problem for me.
I got a message: my phone was arrived in my country, I picked it up.
I was so excited no more heat! But I was really wrong about that. The heat was back!
I was so dissapointed. I checked the shipping papers and I saw this:
OnePlus B2C Hotline
Repair text from repair center
Legacy data deleted
Functional test conducted
Settings set
Software update conducted
They just changed something in the software part! It is a hardware problem, changing OS won't help at all!
At this point I don’t know anymore.
OnePlus “scammed” me, more then a week of wait and the issue isn’t even fixed.
I lost my trust in OnePlus.
Remeber what is one the OnePlus boxes ?
“Created together with our fans”
Then serve your fans, fix their problems!
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You had me at reddit, post teh OP forum & reddit links to this post here.
A little sadness for your story, on the other side when I had a problem on my OPX, the front speaker was broken, they picked up my phone and in 7 working days it came back perfect!!
So I don't know.. maybe you can ask the costumer service for a replacement?
Anyway in my case they were really gently with me, hope for you too!
Same **** for me..
My charging port was somehow dead (the cable was very loose inside the port and phone only charged in a specific cable position), so I contacted OnePlus.
I was surprised how fast everything was going. Day 1 Request, Day 2 E-Mail with freigth label and delivery note, Day 3 UPS came by and took my package, Day 6 or 7 phone was back.
Then I opened the package and saw the excact same note from the repair company as you did..
I only charged it two times since the coming back (which went perfectly fine, no matter in which position the cable was?!?) and didn't really used it so I have to see if the problem is still really existing or there happened some voodoo **** which made my charging port working properly after doing some software reseting?
What ever, kinda the same experience that you encountered..
XqepX said:
Same **** for me..
My charging port was somehow dead (the cable was very loose inside the port and phone only charged in a specific cable position), so I contacted OnePlus.
I was surprised how fast everything was going. Day 1 Request, Day 2 E-Mail with freigth label and delivery note, Day 3 UPS came by and took my package, Day 6 or 7 phone was back.
Then I opened the package and saw the excact same note from the repair company as you did..
I only charged it two times since the coming back (which went perfectly fine, no matter in which position the cable was?!?) and didn't really used it so I have to see if the problem is still really existing or there happened some voodoo **** which made my charging port working properly after doing some software reseting?
What ever, kinda the same experience that you encountered..
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Something has to change, there customer service and repair service is garbage
BruintjeDeBart said:
Something has to change, there customer service and repair service is garbage
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I agree that OnePlus support is horrendous.
We have the following issue:
Basically if you reboot the phone, 9 times out of 10 there will be absolutely no signal whatsoever on the 3 UK network, the phone will just state emergency calls only. This happens on both 3G and 4G, but we usually have 4G turned off as there are not many areas within our region that support 4G yet. If you search Available Networks 3 doesn't show up.
Usually leaving the phone for hours the signal will come back, but sometimes it can be fixed by going into the Test Menu by putting *#*#4636#*#* into the dialer and going to Phone Information -> Toggling the Radio off and On a few times, but this doesnt work every time. My LG G4 is also on the Three network, so I have tried putting both SIMS's in the OnePlus X at the same time and the same issue occurs in both SIM Slots. If I put a Vodafone SIM in as well as the Three SIM, the Vodafone SIM works absolutely fine, regardless of the SIM slot it goes in, but it maintains a signal each time. The problem isnt signal in the area as we have full signal in our house. If I put my wife's SIM into my LG G4 it works absolutely fine 100% of the time.
I've exported various catlogs/modem logs and they have absolutely no interest in assisting.
Community Build 1 it worked flawlessly, but Community Build 2 its not working again. Their recommended fix is to use the Community Build 1 for the forseable...
Can see this phone will be getting sold and replaced with something else.
Little Update to my problem:
I made some tests today, my charging problem still exists. It only charges in a specific position.. I guess I have to fix it on my own :/
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Note 4 wont turn on, "cannot boot normal" and "downlaoding target, dont turn off"

Note 4 wont turn on, "cannot boot normal" and "downlaoding target, dont turn off"
Its a Note 4 SM-N910F, Android 6.0.1, BB N910FXXU1DPE2, kernel 3.10.40-7733605 [email protected] #1
i feel I have tried everything... History:
Phone has been working fine for a year, upgraded to 6.0.1 no problems about 2 or 3 months ago. no new apps installed. Last week it started getting very laggy, keyboard strokes took for ever to register. I thought, ok, time to to a factory reset to blow out any old cobwebs. Did it via the menu. However the phone froze midway thought. I left it for an hour and then pulled out the battery. I popped it back in and it performed the reset without me having to press anything. Cool, thats good I thought.
Now I was going to change the battery, so I powered off as normal and put my other 2 week old original samsung battery in, and it would not power on. After a few reinsertions it powered back on. I though i have to do another reset. So I tried, and it would not reset. It just died. I cant restart the phone, it dies. If I shut it down normally. it wont turn on back on, I have to take out and reinsert the battery multiple times, holding down the powerbutton between to discharge. this can take up to 10 tries now. Sometimes it will go th the unable to bot in normal mode and "downloading , do not turn of target, but it will stay there for ever, more than an hour.
Every 15-20 tries it would turn on, let me get in via pin, only to start freezing up within a min, and then die again. Somewhere I read that a guy hada similar problem, and he used wakelock and that worked, on level 4. I managed to download that and used it, and hey presto, it works!
Now I had to power down the phone for a reason, and it took me about 30 min of battery and powerbuttonholding before it managed to boot up, and I was quick enough to start wakelock on level 4.
It wont boot in to safe mode, it wont boot in to recovery mode, it wont boot in to the factory reset mode. Its the same with either battery, and different cables.
Any ideas what i can do here, or what could be wrong? I havent gotten it wet or banged it.
I am having the same exact issue on a N910A. Phone was functioning correctly and in December it started getting really laggy. Performed various resets, purchased new battery. Still laggy. Up until two weeks ago the phone was slow but now it will not power on . The phone will not charge as well.
Mine did same, 6 months old, not rooted stock firmware. Locked up yesterday, couldn't do anything. Pulled battery and restarted. Samsung logo comes on screen goes black for android boot then it hangs with blue led flashing. Nothing I do gets it past that point. Tried safe boot but it doesn't fully launch with correct button combo and volume up. In the end I re-installed firmware using Keis. All went well, everything as per youtube tutorial. Except one thing, at end of download phone didn't re-start. Still can't get it to boot, any ideas?
Edit: Lock up didn't coincide with any new apps being loaded or updates of existing. Only change was a week ago which was an automatic update of the stock firmware (Lollipop)
armstrongracer said:
Mine did same, 6 months old, not rooted stock firmware. Locked up yesterday, couldn't do anything. Pulled battery and restarted. Samsung logo comes on screen goes black for android boot then it hangs with blue led flashing. Nothing I do gets it past that point. Tried safe boot but it doesn't fully launch with correct button combo and volume up. In the end I re-installed firmware using Keis. All went well, everything as per youtube tutorial. Except one thing, at end of download phone didn't re-start. Still can't get it to boot, any ideas?
Edit: Lock up didn't coincide with any new apps being loaded or updates of existing. Only change was a week ago which was an automatic update of the stock firmware (Lollipop)
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are you still under warranty? i sent mine to a samsung center, the guy recognized the problem as the motherboard, said I wasnt the first. That was 3 weeks ago, they are STILL waiting for the parts. They say the Samsung factory are way behind with repair parts, etc etc. I am hoping it will go under warranty. Ill update when I know!
I've been having the same problem that started yesterday morning. I've tried a few different solutions but nothings worked, I get the feeling that my phone is dead and I'm not in warranty either. I'm going to approach Samsung but my guess is they will want more than the phone is worth to repair it. I've read about so many people having the same issues, its horrendous engineering on Samsungs part considering how much their phones cost to start with
neils0911 said:
I'm going to approach Samsung but my guess is they will want more than the phone is worth to repair it. I've read about so many people having the same issues, its horrendous engineering on Samsungs part considering how much their phones cost to start with
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Your guess is probably correct and I totally agree with you. I seriously think manufacturers do not want their devices to be problem free for more than two years. Probably why they have stopped making phones with batteries that simply pop out.
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Your guess is probably correct and I totally agree with you. I seriously think manufacturers do not want their devices to be problem free for more than two years. Probably why they have stopped making phones with batteries that simply pop out.
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Definitely...surely it couldn't have been that hard to make a device with a battery that was still removable on the newer phones. It's frightening how many forum posts I've found with people having their phones just brick out of nowhere (and that's just the note 4). I've given up trying to fix mine, I've tried every method I could find and nothings worked. I can only assume that this problem is simply the motherboard of the phone not working anymore. I'm not even sure what phone to buy now but it certainly won't be a Samsung.
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. I'm not even sure what phone to buy now but it certainly won't be a Samsung.
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If you do not care about the camera thera are a lot of rather affordable options which can be tossed in the bin when they start malfunctioning and if their warranty has run out. If you care about the camera being as good as the Note 4's than the range of phones you can buy is quite limited.
mymigi said:
I am having the same exact issue on a N910A. Phone was functioning correctly and in December it started getting really laggy. Performed various resets, purchased new battery. Still laggy. Up until two weeks ago the phone was slow but now it will not power on . The phone will not charge as well.
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If you are able to boot it into Download Mode then you should Download Stock Rom file for Galaxy Note 4 from Sammobile and Flash it through Odin..
Everything will be OK... ?
Unfortunately, SAMMOBILE does not have the SM-N910A firmware.
mymigi said:
Unfortunately, SAMMOBILE does not have the SM-N910A firmware.
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You can find here firmware for N910A , 5.1.1 and 6.0.1 : https://simunlockremote.com/firmware-support/
bonfilet said:
If you do not care about the camera thera are a lot of rather affordable options which can be tossed in the bin when they start malfunctioning and if their warranty has run out. If you care about the camera being as good as the Note 4's than the range of phones you can buy is quite limited.
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I think the camera on the note 4 is absolutley terrible. I might even go so far as to say the pictures are unusable. the applied noise reduction renders everything splotchy, colors are off and its not sharp at all. and Im not talking dark conditions here.
Anyway, my phone was repaired under warranty and is back to working as it should. It was indeed the motherboard, so if you have the same troubles I had, those are your best bets.
I don't think replacement via warranty will be available. I will attempt to power into download mode and verify if I can get it back up and running. If not, a good ole paperweight.
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Unfortunately, SAMMOBILE does not have the SM-N910A firmware.
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You can download the Firmware from here ..
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24459283995298017
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mymigi said:
Unfortunately, SAMMOBILE does not have the SM-N910A firmware.
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You can download the Firmware from here. .
https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24459283995298017
Sounds like the problems I have: with my first N910F: started with lagging apps / freezing, then random reboots now and then, eventually giving error messages when booting. Finally, now it will only start after the battery has been out for at least 30 minutes, but hangs on error message. When pulling battery out and putting back in it, wont give a single sign of life. Since I was just out of warranty it has been lying around, and I bought a second hand N910F for replacement, sadly its starting to give the same errors too and is just out of warranty too (its currently still working, but with freezes / reboots / and already a event with boot error).
I read It could be memory chips or some power chip on the motherboard, appears to be a common problem. So.... Last month I bought a new motherboard on ebay (chinese delivery, 80€). Received it last week and put it back in; phone is back to life. (putting it in is a very simple task, with iFixit teardown / guide)
Anyway, I love the Note 4 for performance / size / looks, and have been Samsung fan for a while, but this recent breakdowns and information that it is fairly common, has diminished being a fan fairly quickly and I guess the Note 4 will be the last Samsung device for a while after this new motherboard breaks down as well
onno72 said:
Sounds like the problems I have: with my first N910F: started with lagging apps / freezing, then random reboots now and then, eventually giving error messages when booting. Finally, now it will only start after the battery has been out for at least 30 minutes, but hangs on error message. When pulling battery out and putting back in it, wont give a single sign of life. Since I was just out of warranty it has been lying around, and I bought a second hand N910F for replacement, sadly its starting to give the same errors too and is just out of warranty too (its currently still working, but with freezes / reboots / and already a event with boot error).
I read It could be memory chips or some power chip on the motherboard, appears to be a common problem. So.... Last month I bought a new motherboard on ebay (chinese delivery, 80€). Received it last week and put it back in; phone is back to life. (putting it in is a very simple task, with iFixit teardown / guide)
Anyway, I love the Note 4 for performance / size / looks, and have been Samsung fan for a while, but this recent breakdowns and information that it is fairly common, has diminished being a fan fairly quickly and I guess the Note 4 will be the last Samsung device for a while after this new motherboard breaks down as well
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My phone is also random Rebooting
It also shuts down at 25% of battery remaining, Have you also faced similar issue?
Download the app "Wake Lock" and run the Partial Wake Lock option. Apparently the updated software impacts the CPU. For the restarting issue, put it in the freezer for a couple minutes. You may have to take the battery out once, but it has worked for me every time.
This looks very much like the issue reported here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/no...-error-fix-t3434335/post72944466#post72944466
There are temporary fixes (wakelock), but ultimately this is a harware issue, and the fix is a new motherboard.
I think that underlying it is a problem with heat affecting the eMMC chip or its connection to the motherboard.
See also:
https://us.community.samsung.com/t5...ePhones/thread-id/12183/highlight/true/page/1
http://www.classlawdc.com/2017/04/25/investigation-samsung-galaxy-note-4-mmc_read-failed-defect/
Hey can u pls get me the stock firmware for n910gddu1dpb4
You might find this interesting. Since I couldn't get mine to power up at all, I called Samsung tech and they quoted me $75 to fix it and they would pay for shipping. I figured it was better then getting another phone off Swappa. 2-3 weeks later i get an email that they are repairing it under warranty at no cost to me. I got a refurbished phone since i know my IEMI number was different. they didn't explain why. Anyway, I got lucky i guess.

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