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Since around a month, there hasnt been any new Galaxy S4 updates when it comes to Middle eastern, African and neighbouring countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan because all of them are stuck at UBMEA. But on the other hand, Indian Sub continent (inda,Srilanka, nepal, bangladesh,etc.) are now ahead of the rest by THREE updates (MF5,MF8,MG1) now which is stupid and it doesnt make sence.
I know it takes time, but in the past with Galaxy S3 updates, all countries used to get the SAME update and then after some time, Samsung used to release a new update when most of the countries had got the previous update. But now Samsung have ignored the rest and concentrating on few countries now.
IT makes me wonder whether whether the rest countries are now being ignored or indian sub continent has got the most faulty units in comparison to others.
Thoughts?
p.s. Not all people like to 0din and flash manually.
There isn't a logical answer at your question. Middle East countries sale match more than Shrilanca Indonesia, Bangladesh e.t.c
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I would suggest you use Odin and install the latest firmwares coming out. Those are official updates. I guess that's the reason why your phone came with Odin mode.
I got my phone from a distributor, and my phone came from South Africa. It took a while before I got the MEA update, and now that I see new firmwares coming out, I finally decided to use Odin, my phone is now officially from Bangladesh (software-wise)
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If you look on Sammobile or Samsung-Updates at any Samsung device there are regions on ancient ROMs while CSC's like DBT have gotten three updates. It's pretty random from device-to-device and region-to-region.
It's more of the official country importer's fault than Samsung's fault...
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It's more of the official country importer's fault than Samsung's fault...
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No its samsungs, they should send out the update to everyone. I understand the delay, HTC devices also have similar delays when software updates are rolled out.
There are people in the UK Still stuck on MDM..... Not sure why you think you think you are being ignored.
Dont worry though, nothing past MEA seems to make much of a difference anyway lol
dude most latin american countries are still rocking MDE or MDK
now thats ignored, mine was TPA(Panama) and to this day MDK is its latest
i used odin to flash MF3 from TTT, and might flash MG1 if it doenst come ota by august.
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farrukhna said:
Since around a month, there hasnt been any new Galaxy S4 updates when it comes to Middle eastern, African and neighbouring countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan because all of them are stuck at UBMEA. But on the other hand, Indian Sub continent (inda,Srilanka, nepal, bangladesh,etc.) are now ahead of the rest by THREE updates (MF5,MF8,MG1) now which is stupid and it doesnt make sence.
I know it takes time, but in the past with Galaxy S3 updates, all countries used to get the SAME update and then after some time, Samsung used to release a new update when most of the countries had got the previous update. But now Samsung have ignored the rest and concentrating on few countries now.
IT makes me wonder whether whether the rest countries are now being ignored or indian sub continent has got the most faulty units in comparison to others.
Thoughts?
p.s. Not all people like to 0din and flash manually.
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You are right not only to the Middle East I bought S 4 in the Netherlands. Csc PHN priced at $ 750 So far, came many update june and july for Countries of the world, including the Middle East But the Netherlands s4 is still on May updates
Samsung this jear bad service for expensive smartphone.:banghead:
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Dude if ur phone came from south Africa and u flashed it with ur country's firmware would it brick you fone? I have a similar situation here I need to be really sure where my phone came from b4 I odin it
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alphamars said:
Dude if ur phone came from south Africa and u flashed it with ur country's firmware would it brick you fone? I have a similar situation here I need to be really sure where my phone came from b4 I odin it
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Why would a stock firmware brick your phone ? i flashed my Dutch Vodafone rom with the DBT rom from Germany. The only way you can brick your device is if you flash a i9505 rom on a i9500
noteics said:
You are right not only to the Middle East I bought S 4 in the Netherlands. Csc PHN priced at $ 750 So far, came many update june and july for Countries of the world, including the Middle East But the Netherlands s4 is still on May updates
Samsung this jear bad service for expensive smartphone.:banghead:
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I seriously dont understand the differences because it is absurd. Either the indian sub continent has sold more i9500 than other countries or Samsung dont like to take notice of other countries. HTC is Way better when it comes to 'Distribution' (and not the number) of updates as they cover the whole continent at once.
MichelN said:
Why would a stock firmware brick your phone ? i flashed my Dutch Vodafone rom with the DBT rom from Germany. The only way you can brick your device is if you flash a i9505 rom on a i9500
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DBT frimware is good and fast update for from samsung but not shortcut on lock screen also dbt frimware for note1 note 10 not shortcut on lock screen.
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farrukhna said:
I seriously dont understand the differences because it is absurd. Either the indian sub continent has sold more i9500 than other countries or Samsung dont like to take notice of other countries. HTC is Way better when it comes to 'Distribution' (and not the number) of updates as they cover the whole continent at once.
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HTC is exactly the same. They are just have a different way to do that (by CID) and you can't flash a new firmware without rooting or messing with your device.
All OEMs are the same, they have a lot of differe t firmwares for a lot of different regions, thus making everybody wait for ages or ignoring some regions completely, LG doesnt count cause they almost never update their devices
why doenst samsung release two universal firmwares for the 9500 and 9505 and then the carrier specifics? would be a lot easier
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MichelN said:
Why would a stock firmware brick your phone ? i flashed my Dutch Vodafone rom with the DBT rom from Germany. The only way you can brick your device is if you flash a i9505 rom on a i9500
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Thanks for the explanation.
negrobembon said:
All OEMs are the same, they have a lot of differe t firmwares for a lot of different regions, thus making everybody wait for ages or ignoring some regions completely, LG doesnt count cause they almost never update their devices
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I live in Pakistan
I have a I9500 and I am still stuck with XXUAMDK
Whenever I check for updates from the phone or kies, they notify me with that I have the latest firmware installed.
Although I know that there are updates rolled out.
How to check whether my phone connects to the samsung servers to check for the updates?
And I have not rooted or customised my phone in any way. The status still shows "Official"
Ghazi Anwar1 said:
I live in Pakistan
I have a I9500 and I am still stuck with XXUAMDK
Whenever I check for updates from the phone or kies, they notify me with that I have the latest firmware installed.
Although I know that there are updates rolled out.
How to check whether my phone connects to the samsung servers to check for the updates?
And I have not rooted or customised my phone in any way. The status still shows "Official"
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You can flash any I9500 official Samsung rom downloaded from here www.sammobile.com/firmware with Odin 3.04. You don`t have to wait for updates.
Link for how to http://www.google.nl/url?sa=t&rct=j...r_KS4Aqzam707pZGU82AvAQ&bvm=bv.49784469,d.ZWU.
Can you guys tell me if I'll have any problem getting software updates on an i9500 in a country that doesn't have them on official sale(like the i9505)Just asking as some of my friends tell me Sam has this sort of problem where you can't get soft updates if your phone wasn't designed for the country you live in.
Does nobody know if i'm gonna get updates on the i9500 if i'm located in a country where the i9505 is official?
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Does nobody know if i'm gonna get updates on the i9500 if i'm located in a country where the i9505 is official?
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it doesnt depend on your location or what is the "official variant" in your country. it depends on what is the product code of your phone (csc)
for example i live in Lebanon and i have India firmware on my phone, and i can still receive ota update when it comes to India
There are many samsung firmware builds, just for i9505 and i9500 itself there are many different firmware variations.
From what I understand, different regions uses different modems am I right? If not, then why do Samsung update their firmware based on different regions?
When Android 4.3 was released, it was released as per region and to Russia first. Why cant they just send out one uniform update OTA to all devices of that model? If its because of the modems, then why dont other manufacturers like HTC do the same? They are able to push out one HTC update for all international HTC phones...
din89pm said:
There are many samsung firmware builds, just for i9505 and i9500 itself there are many different firmware variations.
From what I understand, different regions uses different modems am I right? If not, then why do Samsung update their firmware based on different regions?
When Android 4.3 was released, it was released as per region and to Russia first. Why cant they just send out one uniform update OTA to all devices of that model? If its because of the modems, then why dont other manufacturers like HTC do the same? They are able to push out one HTC update for all international HTC phones...
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it s not always because of bandwidth traffics
sometimes they release firmware for test if someone find bug and then solve it for another region (and also with minor update for first regions)
htc released update for htc one world-wide But how u compare samsung with htc
S4 was one of the best sell in history of smartphone (always samsung device do this) so thr s more s4 users than htc one
also it happened for some device for sony xperia
SO be patient
However u can flash stocks roms
download flashable zip of ROM from another region and flash it via Odin
completely stock and without warranty void...
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x102x96x said:
it s not always because of bandwidth traffics
sometimes they release firmware for test if someone find bug and then solve it for another region (and also with minor update for first regions)
htc released update for htc one world-wide But how u compare samsung with htc
S4 was one of the best sell in history of smartphone (always samsung device do this) so thr s more s4 users than htc one
also it happened for some device for sony xperia
SO be patient
However u can flash stocks roms
download flashable zip of ROM from another region and flash it via Odin
completely stock and without warranty void...
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Actually the purpose of this post is to gain some knowledge on how Samsung update goes on... I am very patient I am not rushing to the point I need to flash a custom ROM. So you are saying that each region has their own Samsung tech guy that will work on the initial release to fix bugs before passing to another region?
There are not just more variants of firmware in s4, but also the same for any samsung phone. Does anyone else have their opinion on this matter as well? I would like to get feedback on what people think behind samsung's update procedure.
I'm also interested in having an answer on the subject. If I can flash a firmware from another region on my phone, what's the purpose of having several firmwares...Besides some tweaks apparently.
Wouldn't it be more interesting if all the developers from Samsung focused on the same firmware to eliminate the bugs more rapidly for example? I don't really see the link between several firmwares and the number of users. Ok, the S4 sold by millions, and?
Thanks.
What difference does it make.As long as your getting your updates, why would you care about any other region.
Are you doing a Samsung case study or preparing a lawsuit; otherwise email CEO of Samsung.
I can post his tag if needed..lol
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The time discrepancy its coming from carriers. Most of them wants to integrate their own bloatwares in their phones. And some are doing faster than others. That's why there's so many region specific firmwares when its about Touchwiz. You won't see region specific firmwares for Google Play Edition.
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vladimir_carlan said:
The time discrepancy its coming from carriers. Most of them wants to integrate their own bloatwares in their phones. And some are doing faster than others. That's why there's so many region specific firmwares when its about Touchwiz. You won't see region specific firmwares for Google Play Edition.
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Indeed, seems the most obvious reason... I just wanted to be sure that besides the bloatware, the Android version underneath was the same.
Thanks for your intel!
mr.death7 said:
Indeed, seems the most obvious reason... I just wanted to be sure that besides the bloatware, the Android version underneath was the same.
Thanks for your intel!
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So just to be absolutely clear about this...
When I cant download the Dutch firmware version for my sm-t110, I ccould just download the australian one instead whitout bricking my device?
This is important thanks
I would have posted this under the S5 'T-Mobile' section, but I think it might be more of a generic discussion.
I am considering in purchasing the S5 Plus (G901F). From what I can see right now, this is only available in Germany, UK and just about now, Netherlands. Problem is that it's exclusive to respective providers and therefore - "branded"
I can find it cheaper from Germany - which is subject to T-Mobile / Telekom (same thing?) branding.
I have asked the shop and they confirmed that the phone is factory unlocked to any provider/country and that there is no "hardware branding" on the phone. Meaning no stickers, no logos or anything else physically on the phone.
However, there is "software branding". Meaning the firmware itself and whatever bloatware the provider has put inside that ROM.
Now, I have read that I can use ODIN and find the least crapware-loaded ROM (from any country) and flash it *without* compromissing the knox bit. So far so good.
What I would like to know is that: What happens when finally Samsung releases a pure, non-branded ROM for the G901F? I can still use ODIN to flash - no problem. But what about future releases. I mean future non-branded firmwares. Would I be able to use OTA from that point on, or would I have to keep an eye and update via ODIN? Can someone please elaborate and explain this?
I get it - that's a 'newbie' type of question, but I would be really grateful towards some help here. All I can do for someone who will spend 2mins for writing a useful/accurate answer is say 'thanks'
Didn't find an exact answer to what I ask here, hence me writing this. Hope it's not a double-post!
jstoner said:
I would have posted this under the S5 'T-Mobile' section, but I think it might be more of a generic discussion.
I am considering in purchasing the S5 Plus (G901F). From what I can see right now, this is only available in Germany, UK and just about now, Netherlands. Problem is that it's exclusive to respective providers and therefore - "branded"
I can find it cheaper from Germany - which is subject to T-Mobile / Telekom (same thing?) branding.
I have asked the shop and they confirmed that the phone is factory unlocked to any provider/country and that there is no "hardware branding" on the phone. Meaning no stickers, no logos or anything else physically on the phone.
However, there is "software branding". Meaning the firmware itself and whatever bloatware the provider has put inside that ROM.
Now, I have read that I can use ODIN and find the least crapware-loaded ROM (from any country) and flash it *without* compromissing the knox bit. So far so good.
What I would like to know is that: What happens when finally Samsung releases a pure, non-branded ROM for the G901F? I can still use ODIN to flash - no problem. But what about future releases. I mean future non-branded firmwares. Would I be able to use OTA from that point on, or would I have to keep an eye and update via ODIN? Can someone please elaborate and explain this?
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Hi jstoner,
I think that while using an unbranded ROM would probably prevent you from receiving OTA's from your provider you would still be left wih the Samsung tool for getting new updates - Kies.
It has the options to check for updates and to flash them.
The geeky option is indeed to keep your eyes out for updates and fire up Odin
Disclaimer: I never used Kies to update my phone so I might be wrong here
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I forgot to mention - I live in Greece (but I m thinking of buying the phone from Germany, as it's not available here yet)
Does KIES list all ROMs from ALL regions/providers for a particular phone?
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I think that while using an unbranded ROM would probably prevent you from receiving OTA's from your provider you would still be left wih the Samsung tool for getting new updates - Kies.
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Hello,
It seems there is a firmware for Greece for you
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/40735/G901FXXU1ANK3_G901FEUR1ANL1_EUR.zip/
Oh good
Does that mean it's about to be released in Greece soon???
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Hello,
It seems there is a firmware for Greece for you
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/40735/G901FXXU1ANK3_G901FEUR1ANL1_EUR.zip/
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Nobody knows man. But you can always flash the newest updates via odin without triggering knox. After a few month only German Vodafone is building an update. T- mobil stii stuck on h5 firmware. So if there will be an unbranded oce ever ever ever.........you have odin
Wonder if that Greek ROM is unbranded or not
As for hardware branding, it seems that all G901F units sold in Germany under Telekom/T-Mobile have that "LTE+" at the back (also on the retail box). Instead, those EE (UK) units seem to have no hardware branding at all - it just has the "Samsung" logo at the back cover (and nothing on the retail box)
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No Body knows man. But you can always flash the newest updates via odin without triggering knox. After a few month only German Vodafone is building an update. T- mobil stii stuck on h5 firmware. So if there will be an unbranded oce ever ever ever.........you have odin
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There are a few Providerapps inside. All Roms i tested for 901F has the normal Samsung Bootloaderscreener. No Provider startup. So nothing to worry about . Mine has also the LTE+ logo, but former T-Mobile Devices have also Coverbrands on it...Thanks God these not
This model isn't a US model AFAIK. I checked sammobile, but all of the Lollipop updates had a carrier. I'm not sure which carrier mine belonged to, but it's currently being used on an AT&T MVNO. There are no updates when I check in the settings menu, but that is expected since this model isn't available here in the US AFAIK.
Does Samsung Kies update the phone using the international version of the update? What's the best method here?
Thanks
Mo6152 said:
This model isn't a US model AFAIK. I checked sammobile, but all of the Lollipop updates had a carrier. I'm not sure which carrier mine belonged to, but it's currently being used on an AT&T MVNO. There are no updates when I check in the settings menu, but that is expected since this model isn't available here in the US AFAIK.
Does Samsung Kies update the phone using the international version of the update? What's the best method here?
Thanks
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Both updates Kies or OTA will be firmware version not sim .
If it is an unbranded German then you should get updates OTA or Kies when they are available .
Dial *#1234#. Look at the CSC. That'll tell you whether your device is branded or unbranded.
If it says N9005DBT, you've got the DBT firmware, which is German unbranded.
Updates are not related to SIMcards nor locations. They check your CSC and IMEI. And KNOX flag.
CSC for the locality of the firmware,
IMEI for the validity of the device and as the order in which devices get updated,
KNOX flag for validity of the KNOX status.
Updates are rolled out over Samsung's update servers, all providers have to do with that is providing your internet connection.
You will recieve the update when the OTA for your CSC rolls out and your IMEI comes up on the list.
Where you are and what provider you are using at that time is entirely irrelevant.
DBT is not out yet. (Sadly.)
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ShadowLea said:
Dial *#1234#. Look at the CSC. That'll tell you whether your device is branded or unbranded.
If it says N9005DBT, you've got the DBT firmware, which is German unbranded.
Updates are not related to SIMcards nor locations. They check your CSC and IMEI. And KNOX flag.
CSC for the locality of the firmware,
IMEI for the validity of the device and as the order in which devices get updated,
KNOX flag for validity of the KNOX status.
Updates are rolled out over Samsung's update servers, all providers have to do with that is providing your internet connection.
You will recieve the update when the OTA for your CSC rolls out and your IMEI comes up on the list.
Where you are and what provider you are using at that time is entirely irrelevant.
DBT is not out yet. (Sadly.)
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Thank you for that response. It seems that I do indeed have DBT. Is there an ETA or rumors or something that can indicate to a imminent release? Any leaks?
Also, are the DBT updates available on sammobile? I was only able to find carrier specific firmwares when I last checked. I just want to make sure that I didn't miss anything.
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Mo6152 said:
Thank you for that response. It seems that I do indeed have DBT. Is there an ETA or rumors or something that can indicate to a imminent release? Any leaks?
Also, are the DBT updates available on sammobile? I was only able to find carrier specific firmwares when I last checked. I just want to make sure that I didn't miss anything.
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Mo6152 said:
Thank you for that response. It seems that I do indeed have DBT. Is there an ETA or rumors or something that can indicate to a imminent release? Any leaks?
Also, are the DBT updates available on sammobile? I was only able to find carrier specific firmwares when I last checked. I just want to make sure that I didn't miss anything.
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You were likely looking on the N9005 main page. The new layout for Sammobile is highly illogical. Top left of it is a drop-down menu where all firmwares are listed. (The one that says 'Select Country') Here's the link for DBT: www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N9005/DBT/
Sadly I don't have an ETA. I've been reliably informed that they're holding off the largest markets (DBT, BTU, XEF) due to ongoing issues with Bluetooth and WiFi in Lollipop that originate with Google. Until those are fixed we likely won't be seeing 5.0, if at all.
Carriers are releasing them for a reason I see every day: "We still don't have Lollipop! F*ck this provider, I'm changing to another one the second my contract ends.". They prefer a software issue they can simply blame on Samsung over impatient customers.
If you really want Lollipop, you can flash DTM, which is Deutsche Telekom. It's DBT with a few T-Mobile labels and apps.
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You were likely looking on the N9005 main page. The new layout for Sammobile is highly illogical. Top left of it is a drop-down menu where all firmwares are listed. (The one that says 'Select Country') Here's the link for DBT: www.sammobile.com/firmwares/database/SM-N9005/DBT/
Sadly I don't have an ETA. I've been reliably informed that they're holding off the largest markets (DBT, BTU, XEF) due to ongoing issues with Bluetooth and WiFi in Lollipop that originate with Google. Until those are fixed we likely won't be seeing 5.0, if at all.
Carriers are releasing them for a reason I see every day: "We still don't have Lollipop! F*ck this provider, I'm changing to another one the second my contract ends.". They prefer a software issue they can simply blame on Samsung over impatient customers.
If you really want Lollipop, you can flash DTM, which is Deutsche Telekom. It's DBT with a few T-Mobile labels and apps.
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Thank you! That was very informative. I will check the link every now and then. I'll just wait for the official release.
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