Related
Saw this on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/1iwnvb/miracast_working_on_nexus_7_devices_link_to_dev/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMlTxTyoaOs
I was only mildly interested until I saw the note that he got it working both for receiving and sending.
If we can integrate this into our OUYAs (and it should be easier to do since Nexus 7 is somewhat similar hardware), then we won't need another box to receive Miracast streams!
I will try and port it, but not sure when I'll get around to it. Posting it here in case some dev wants to take a crack at it sooner!
Also if anyone can verify that this will/will not work, please do! Getting the OUYA to receive screen-mirroring of some sort has been on my wishlist since I first ordered it.
EDIT: Knew there had to be a catch I wasn't thinking of... The Miracast stuff linked is working with Android 4.2, whereas OUYA is 4.1, so that would probably be the main hurdle -either getting OUYA up to 4.2 or backporting Miracast+patches to 4.1. Not sure how difficult either would be.
EDIT2: OUYA's weak wifi would probably also be a problem, would probably work better to rework the streaming to work as long as you're on the same router.
~Troop
What about the Chromecast device? I'm really not understanding the goal here.
Basically sending video from a device, to the Ouya, to pass through to the TV?
Sent from Nexus 7 FHD from XDA Premium HD
Yes it's all about mirroring the screen output of your phone via ouya to the TV. What's the point? Mostly displaying content without having to transfer it to the ouya.
Oh and chromecast doesn't support miracast.
Gesendet von meinem HTC One X+ mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
nchantmnt said:
Yes it's all about mirroring the screen output of your phone via ouya to the TV. What's the point? Mostly displaying content without having to transfer it to the ouya.
Oh and chromecast doesn't support miracast.
Gesendet von meinem HTC One X+ mit Tapatalk 4 Beta
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Chromecast is kinda a letdown imo without full on mirroring.
its all about knocking off the apple tv up in this thread.
player911 said:
What about the Chromecast device? I'm really not understanding the goal here.
Basically sending video from a device, to the Ouya, to pass through to the TV?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I posted all this before I heard about Chromecast.... believe me, I jumped on that boat quickly!
I already got my Netflix promo code and my chromecast should arrive by Wednesday and I have great hopes for it, but yeah, it won't do full-on mirroring. True mirroring isn't really needed in most use cases though, but it is handy in a few.
~Troop
Trooper_Max said:
Yeah, I posted all this before I heard about Chromecast.... believe me, I jumped on that boat quickly!
I already got my Netflix promo code and my chromecast should arrive by Wednesday and I have great hopes for it, but yeah, it won't do full-on mirroring. True mirroring isn't really needed in most use cases though, but it is handy in a few.
~Troop
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If Chromecast could do full on mirroring we woudn´t even need a Ouya anymore.
At first this didn't make sense to me, ouya as a miracast receiver to stream from your nexus 7 while the ouya is already hooked up to the tv via hdmi?! But when I think about it, this could make the ouya perform double-duty as a small miracast dongle/receiver. I was looking to buy a miracast receiver but if the ouya could do this, then I would probably buy this as my miracast receiver to boot. I guess if you had a video or somethng on your nexus 7 and didn't want to bother sending the file over to your ouya, you could just miracast it.
Personally, I think if the hardware is capable of it, why not? meaning why isn't miracast enabled in all devices by now? Last year they were saying the n7 (and the n10) couldn't do miracast, well this guy proved it can, and the n10 officially has support as of 4.3.
But here's the bad news: I was reading that guys blog who made miracast work for the n7 and the sink mode (acting as a receiver) has been stripped out of android 4.3. Why google did that I don't know.
I commented on it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=44124359&postcount=7
His site mentioning it is here:
https://github.com/kensuke/How-to-Miracast-on-AOSP/wiki/Android-4.3
I'm still surprised so much time has past and none of the rom devs were trying to implement miracast in their roms for the n7.
I hope the source from 4.2.2 (last source with sink code) can be brought forward to 4.3, but that probably makes this all the harder. But I'd be interested to hear why google removed that functionality.
it's also a neat feature to be able to miracast device to device, for say showing someone how to do something, share a video etc. I guess google never advertised the n4 as capable of being a receiver?
You need to research miracast more. it's a failure, there is a delay which makes trying to play a game useless. unless your playing checkers or watching a movie. Miracast is useless , it's why devs don't bother with it. Chromecast uses a google tv port to do the heavy lifting. get a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a Bluetooth controller. link them to your nexus 7 (2013) with hdmi out and you have a ouya on steroids.
kpa2727 said:
You need to research miracast more. it's a failure, there is a delay which makes trying to play a game useless. unless your playing checkers or watching a movie. Miracast is useless , it's why devs don't bother with it. Chromecast uses a google tv port to do the heavy lifting. get a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard and a Bluetooth controller. link them to your nexus 7 (2013) with hdmi out and you have a ouya on steroids.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hmm, well this video with the work being done for nexus 7 looks pretty smooth. Yes, a little latency, but for a 3d game that's working pretty good. Especially on a n7 which supposedly couldn't do it.
I read one comment on it being a failure but I couldn't find any comments on any dev here attempting to implement it in their rom. Maybe there are some things to work out, but it's still getting a big push. LG has announced about 70 tv sets with built-in miracast and mircosoft has it in windows 8.1. So I wouldn't give up on it yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20s567tzTdM&feature=player_detailpage&t=316
If I can get the performance as in the video above, I'll be a happy camper.
Did anyone watch the google event just now? What do you think about their new "Q"?
My thouhts;
The positive - great seamless connectivity between all platforms and the price ($35!)
The negative - I kinda like the way to have something "beautiful" (like the Nexus Q was) on top of my receiver in the living room. This whole thing with a hidden tiny HDMI-dongle is just not my cup of tea. I'm also a bit concerned about the sound quality through that tiny thing when streaming Google Music for example. One thing I liked about the Nexus Q was that it really had *great* output audio quality through the HDMI to my receiver.
Another thing I did not like at all is that they still keep bashing us that don't use google play to see our movies. I have most of my movies on my computer in MKV and I want to be able to stream them! This is again where airplay from apple is ahead of google...
What do you guys think?
Btw, is there ANY chance what-so-ever that the new stream button in youtube/google music will have compability with the Nexus Q?
I bought one just because of the price and portability !
I REALLY REALLY REALLY hope the new buttons work with the Q though. I liked having it as a jukebox on my mantle.
the lights are beautiful!
Volatyle said:
My thouhts;
The positive - great seamless connectivity between all platforms and the price ($35!)
The negative - I kinda like the way to have something "beautiful" (like the Nexus Q was) on top of my receiver in the living room. This whole thing with a hidden tiny HDMI-dongle is just not my cup of tea. I'm also a bit concerned about the sound quality through that tiny thing when streaming Google Music for example. One thing I liked about the Nexus Q was that it really had *great* output audio quality through the HDMI to my receiver.
Another thing I did not like at all is that they still keep bashing us that don't use google play to see our movies. I have most of my movies on my computer in MKV and I want to be able to stream them! This is again where airplay from apple is ahead of google...
What do you guys think?
Btw, is there ANY chance what-so-ever that the new stream button in youtube/google music will have compability with the Nexus Q?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
one can hope. or just keep using the old apps.
Nexus Q
Wish it had an option like the banana jacks for speakers like the nexus Q does.
Since they released a chrome cast SDK maybe someone at XDA will be able to implement support for chromecast in the nexus Q?
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
Volatyle said:
Since they released a chrome cast SDK maybe someone at XDA will be able to implement support for chromecast in the nexus Q?
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am hoping for the same thing.....if there are even Devs left....
Or, since we have the parts we need (HAL drivers etc) to make a chromecast rom?
I hope that the chromecast can get ported over i would hate to just toss my balls away they are very cool looking.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using xda app-developers app
Okay, so now google says they're adding chromecast compability with Google TV - which RUNS ANDROID. Just like the Nexus Q does.
Even more hope!!!
Vol
when I get home I'll try the app to see if it'll "map" to the Q. Yesterday it was trying to connect to the bluetooth stereo in my car.
Plan B is putting an amp in where I have my Q now and working via the audio out from the TV
rmm989 said:
when I get home I'll try the app to see if it'll "map" to the Q. Yesterday it was trying to connect to the bluetooth stereo in my car.
Plan B is putting an amp in where I have my Q now and working via the audio out from the TV
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am using the Sonos AMP where my Q was so I still can connect HTMI on my TV to my speakers. Now adding the Chromecast to the TV I should now have a Q replacement.
My thoughts on the Chromecast compared to the Q:
I just got my 2 chromecasts in today and I wanted to share my experience.
It can do all the basic functionality the Q could and more, but there are a few things the Q did better regarding play music.
With the Q one could start music from one device, then pick up another and "now playing" would be synced. This isn't the case with chromecast. Same thing goes the the queue, It isn't synced either, which is odd because I thought I read that others could join in and add to the queue. I always loved this feature with the Q because I could start music in one room with my phone and later control it with my tablet in another room. Plus, my wife would always like to put her songs in on the playlist as well. I also had issues with connecting a second device and the music would just stop. Perhaps future updates with fix some of these bugs.
If you have any other questions, I'll be glad to answer them!
El Daddy said:
My thoughts on the Chromecast compared to the Q:
I just got my 2 chromecasts in today and I wanted to share my experience.
It can do all the basic functionality the Q could and more, but there are a few things the Q did better regarding play music.
With the Q one could start music from one device, then pick up another and "now playing" would be synced. This isn't the case with chromecast. Same thing goes the the queue, It isn't synced either, which is odd because I thought I read that others could join in and add to the queue. I always loved this feature with the Q because I could start music in one room with my phone and later control it with my tablet in another room. Plus, my wife would always like to put her songs in on the playlist as well. I also had issues with connecting a second device and the music would just stop. Perhaps future updates with fix some of these bugs.
If you have any other questions, I'll be glad to answer them!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the feedback. Now we're just waiting for the Q to get chromecast ability
Sent from my Nexus 10 using Tapatalk HD
Hello everyone! Seems like this is the only place on the web to discuss the mojo.
I've been trying to build a flawless XBMC/Emulation machine for quite some time now. I had previously been using a very powerful windows pc running xbmc with advanced launcher. However I found that there were just too many things that could go wrong. Too many scripts to write to combat the misshaps and overall it wasn't the best solution.
So I ordered an ouya. Now I have my Ouya hooked up to the tv and it runs xbmc fairly well. It also runs most standalone emulators quite well, such as the broglia ones. But when compared to my Nvidia shield the video output doesn't look as good for some reason, retroarch doesn't work nearly as well, theres no play store, no sd card slot. Now I got it for 79.99 with free shipping so I'm not complaining, it does much more than I ever expected it would for that price. But I wanted an experience to rival my shield, but permanently connected to my tv. So I ordered a Mojo when they announced ouya app support and the price drop.
It hasn't arrived yet but I'm getting anxious.
Current plans are to run TvLauncher as the main launcher. Or create a custom setup using something like zooper widget and nova launcher.
The main screen will feature XBMC, the ouya app (whenever its available) Gamestream (whenever it is available also), as well as Nostalgia (an ouya app) or some other emulator front end.
Possibly I will add youtube and netflix (if an hd version becomes available) to the launcher.
I've order a 1tb WD Passport to connect to the USB 3.0 port. This will be a rom and save location mostly. As all media playback will be done from my home server.
Also going to be using retroarch with crt shaders as the main emulator.
Roms as well as game saves will be synced between my shield and mojo via dropsync, so that when I exit the game on my shield I can resume where I left off seemlessly on the mojo and vice versa.
I will likely be making some videos of how it all works if I can get it working the way I want.
My question is, does anybody see anything glaringly wrong with my approach? Is there anything I'm missing? Any app that might work better than the ones I plan to use. Or any tweaks or hacks that I'm going to have to do to the mojo to do this kind of thing. Anything specific I need to figure out regarding the 1tb hdd I plan to use? Any input or interest would be greatly appreciated.
Hi and welcome to the MOJO side :silly:
SeeThruHead said:
.. But when compared to my Nvidia shield the video output doesn't look as good for some reason ..
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
:laugh::laugh: the shield is a Tegra 4 with 2GB ram like the MOJO, ouya is only Tegra3 and 1GB ram:laugh::laugh:
SeeThruHead said:
Current plans are to run TvLauncher as the main launcher. Or create a custom setup using something like zooper widget and nova launcher.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You sound like a launcher fan, but it's really not essential, you might want to try MOJO without it just to see.
Experiment with the CTRLR in gamesmart mode (so you don't have to switch in/out of mouse mode).
the start button = mouse click
SeeThruHead said:
I've order a 1tb WD Passport to connect to the USB 3.0 port.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The USB 3.0 port is recommended for the BT4 dongle (which is need to use the CTRLR until kitkat comes out).
And MOJO has readonly access to NTFS and no access to exFat.
But rooting it and install (don't know the name) app fixes this, just go through the threads here, you'll find it (not many).
SeeThruHead said:
Roms as well as game saves will be synced between my shield and mojo via dropsync, so that when I exit the game on my shield I can resume where I left off seemlessly on the mojo and vice versa.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice! what a great idea!
The broglia emulators for ouya work fine, just need to remap the controls.
The official XBMC apk works well with CTRLR.
Ouya games don't map to the CTRLR very well.. some let you configure the controller, but most don't (find the thread).
So I wonder how ouya is going to fix that? I bet they wont and make the poor devs fix it :crying:
I recommend rooting it for full access to google play, and it's easy.
I can't see you having issues doing what you want, it'll work more or less like your shield only with a better controller and no setting up
Let us know how you go and looking forward to your videos :good:
gwaldo said:
Hi and welcome to the MOJO side :silly:
:laugh::laugh: the shield is a Tegra 4 with 2GB ram like the MOJO, ouya is only Tegra3 and 1GB ram:laugh::laugh:
The USB 3.0 port is recommended for the BT4 dongle (which is need to use the CTRLR until kitkat comes out).
And MOJO has readonly access to NTFS and no access to exFat.
But rooting it and install (don't know the name) app fixes this, just go through the threads here, you'll find it (not many).
Nice! what a great idea!
The broglia emulators for ouya work fine, just need to remap the controls.
The official XBMC apk works well with CTRLR.
Ouya games don't map to the CTRLR very well.. some let you configure the controller, but most dont (find thread).
So I wonder how ouya is going to fix that? I bet they wont and make the devs fix it :crying:
I recommend rooting it for sure, and it's easy.
I can't see you having issues doing what you want, it'll work more or less like your shield only with a better controller and no setting up
Let us know how you go and looking forward to your videos :good:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There's an app to enable rw to ntfs or to exfat?
I'm hoping to run retroarch with custom borders and shaders (not graphically intensive ones, just crt style.) but retroarch has been giving me nothing but problems on my shield while i've been trying to get it working with dropsync. It was working fine just syncing the saves but now I'm having it sync roms as well and its causing all sorts of havoc.
As for ouya games, honesly i haven't played any but ittle dew. and that one i played for only 30 minutes. I've been using it entirely for .emu emulators and xbmc. Thats the kind of experience I'd like to bring across to the mojo but I will need a proper front end for the emulators. Is there anything resembling the ouya app "Nostalgia" currently available for the Mojo? The author of that app has mentioned a play store version but I fear it will be some time before that materializes.
EDIT:
Ok I think I've found it. The paragon app.
Will definitely pick that up when my mojo arrives.
So I've configured my shield with a folder called "dropsync" on the sd card. Everything in that folder is instantly synced to my dropbox and other android devices. I had retroarch synced but it's been giving me problems. The snes works fine but the core for GBC is a dog. So I decided to also sync all the saves from my other emulation apps. They're actually working better than retroarch so far. Going to load up dropsync onto the ouya tmrw to see how well save file syncing works between those two.
Drop sync is amazing. Also check out the thread here for folder mount. It is a great little app that will help with big games.
I too like gaming. Had the ouya and dunno what I'll end up using that for now since I have the mojo and like it more since it has play store access. Might just be a paperweight or travel companion tho honestly that's what I got the mojo for too.
I'm going to have to check out that launcher you mentioned too. Been looking for a cool launcher for the mojo to coincide with a console feel.
Also I use a moga controller with the mojo too. Works real well with games that support it better than the mojo controller.
Anyway I'm rambling lol
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
jbuggydroid said:
Drop sync is amazing. Also check out the thread here for folder mount. It is a great little app that will help with big games.
I too like gaming. Had the ouya and dunno what I'll end up using that for now since I have the mojo and like it more since it has play store access. Might just be a paperweight or travel companion tho honestly that's what I got the mojo for too.
I'm going to have to check out that launcher you mentioned too. Been looking for a cool launcher for the mojo to coincide with a console feel.
Also I use a moga controller with the mojo too. Works real well with games that support it better than the mojo controller.
Anyway I'm rambling lol
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
From what I've tested the ouya is the premiere low cost xbmc device on the market. I've tried the pivos and its horrible compare to the ouya and has no extra features. The black box costs more than an ouya and has terrible reviews.
My ouya will likely go to my mothers hdtv for xbmc purposes. She currently has a boxee box which is absolute garbage compared to the ouya and cost my more than twice as much.
I guess I need to do some more reading and possibly some YouTube watching to fully understand that xbmc is all about. Maybe then I'll be like using that app all the time
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
jbuggydroid said:
I guess I need to do some more reading and possibly some YouTube watching to fully understand that xbmc is all about. Maybe then I'll be like using that app all the time
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You and me both. I've downloaded the app to my MOJO and use it sparingly to watch the limited content I'm able to get to (all available elsewhere btw) using it. Most of the add-ons I've tried don't work. I've found it easier to download specific apps and/or bookmark network websites (then create a desktop shortcut) for content I'm interested in. Perhaps you intend use xbmc to watch content you already have stored locally? Maybe I need to study up on it myself to fully understand its utility.
Domomojo said:
You and me both. I've downloaded the app to my MOJO and use it sparingly to watch the limited content I'm able to get to (all available elsewhere btw) using it. Most of the add-ons I've tried don't work. I've found it easier to download specific apps and/or bookmark network websites (then create a desktop shortcut) for content I'm interested in. Perhaps you intend use xbmc to watch content you already have stored locally? Maybe I need to study up on it myself to fully understand its utility.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Watching content stored locally is the point of XBMC. I have a 14tb home server with sickbeard (automatic tv show downloader) and couchpotato (same thing for movies.) It organizes all my files with a wonderful interface with posters and cover art and episode synopsis. It's how I watch all my television content. I don't stream (terrible quality usually) and I don't pay for cable or satellite service.
SeeThruHead said:
Watching content stored locally is the point of XBMC. I have a 14tb home server with sickbeard (automatic tv show downloader) and couchpotato (same thing for movies.) It organizes all my files with a wonderful interface with posters and cover art and episode synopsis. It's how I watch all my television content. I don't stream (terrible quality usually) and I don't pay for cable or satellite service.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks! A few years ago I used to do the same thing manually with Agent, but I have long since let my 3rd party Usenet server subscription lapse (ATT is my ISP now, I have no idea if they even provide access to Usenet anymore). It just became more trouble than it was worth. I don't have cable anymore either, and other than a few shows on AMC and Discovery Channel, I'm able to find everything I'm interested in watching. Hopefully I'll find a source for programming on those two networks.
I guess I'll have to check it out more tho don't really need to use it much since my pc is hooked up to my big screen anyway. Will Def use it when I am out of town for work tho. Thanks for the insight
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
jbuggydroid said:
I guess I'll have to check it out more tho don't really need to use it much since my pc is hooked up to my big screen anyway. Will Def use it when I am out of town for work tho. Thanks for the insight
Sent from my SM-N900P using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Up until I bought the MOJO, I've had a PC connected to my TV since around 2001. I far prefer the MOJO for a multitude of reasons including its small size, no noisy fan, no spinning hard drive, near instantaneous boot, no bloated OS requiring constant update, availability of a huge amount of no/low cost software and excellent graphics capability. The fact that it is also a powerful gaming console with a BT4 controller is just an added bonus. Worth every penny of the $249 I paid for mine.
Wow
SeeThruHead said:
Watching content stored locally is the point of XBMC. I have a 14tb home server with sickbeard (automatic tv show downloader) and couchpotato (same thing for movies.) It organizes all my files with a wonderful interface with posters and cover art and episode synopsis. It's how I watch all my television content. I don't stream (terrible quality usually) and I don't pay for cable or satellite service.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dude you sound a lot like me and if you are be prepared to be disappointed. XBMC works great on the OUYA but I wanted a smoother experience from my movie collection. I have a synology 1812+ with (6 3Tb and 2 2TB HHDs) with my entire movie collection with files ranging from 5GB+ for 720p to 10GB+ 1080p DTS files and the ouya did a good job, especially with hardware decoding on xbmc v13, even the ouya xbmc version did a great job but they lost DTS support so I had to use an older version for most of my movies to play audio. The biggest problem is that on the Mojo xbmc doesn’t hide the navigation soft keys so that means you watch those three buttons on the bottom of the screen the entire time you’re supposed to be enjoying a movie, the only way to remove it right now is by rooting your madcatz mojo but that requires a USB a to a cable that most people don’t just have laying around. You can also cross your fingers and hope that the mojo gets 4.4 kitkat soon since that adds immersive mode which xbmc just recently added that allows the application to take on the whole screen without the navigation soft keys appearing. The improvements that I thought I would see are just not there to justify paying twice the amount of an OUYA. Don’t get me wrong I think the Mojo is a great box but it’s not worth twice the price for performance that, at least to me is not noticeable.
P.S. the mojo is quite when compared to the Ouya (Loud Fan)
The thing will be rooted before I do anything else. I'm sure it will be easy enough to remove the navigation buttons. Also Xbmc Gotham nightlies should have support for dts (though I don't have many dts files). Xbmc runs flawlessly on my shield so km expecting it will perform similarly.
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk
SeeThruHead said:
The thing will be rooted before I do anything else. I'm sure it will be easy enough to remove the navigation buttons. Also Xbmc Gotham nightlies should have support for dts (though I don't have many dts files). Xbmc runs flawlessly on my shield so km expecting it will perform similarly.
Sent from my SGH-I747M using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I find it sad that Mad Catz M.O.J.O. has no DTS working in XBMC, when that is working on other Android TV Boxes (MeLE, VidON, and MINIX) for many mounts now, and also do not have the navigation buttons on the bottom of the screen.
AmigaWolf said:
I find it sad that Mad Catz M.O.J.O. has no DTS working in XBMC, when that is working on other Android TV Boxes (MeLE, VidON, and MINIX) for many mounts now, and also do not have the navigation buttons on the bottom of the screen.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
XBMC v13 does have DTS support, what i meant was the latest version of ouya xbmc lost their dts license so i had to sideload xbmc v13 or use an easrlier version of ouay xbmc to have DTS support. i own an Ouya and a Mojo and both have DTS support with XBMC v13 BETA 2.
mejdam said:
XBMC v13 does have DTS support, what i meant was the latest version of ouya xbmc lost their dts license so i had to sideload xbmc v13 or use an easrlier version of ouay xbmc to have DTS support. i own an Ouya and a Mojo and both have DTS support with XBMC v13 BETA 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats likely the xbmc version I'll be using when I get my mojo. Anyone have an emulation front end for android? I like nostalgia for ouya but it's ouya only for now.
mejdam said:
XBMC v13 does have DTS support, what i meant was the latest version of ouya xbmc lost their dts license so i had to sideload xbmc v13 or use an easrlier version of ouay xbmc to have DTS support. i own an Ouya and a Mojo and both have DTS support with XBMC v13 BETA 2.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So you have Dolby Digital and DTS and more (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master) with XBMC 13.0 Gotham – Beta 2 on the Mad Catz M.O.J.O?
Because that means it is now a real Android TV BOX, and that is great news.
AmigaWolf said:
So you have Dolby Digital and DTS and more (Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master) with XBMC 13.0 Gotham – Beta 2 on the Mad Catz M.O.J.O?
Because that means it is now a real Android TV BOX, and that is great news.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think what he was trying to say is that it has always had it. Not having it would be because you were using the wrong XBMC version. Though I think that only applies to the ouya and isn't even relevant when referring to the MOJO.
SeeThruHead said:
I think what he was trying to say is that it has always had it. Not having it would be because you were using the wrong XBMC version. Though I think that only applies to the ouya and isn't even relevant when referring to the MOJO.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That is correct, dtshd and truehd files play fine.
Do they pass through 5.1 surround properly?
I was really disappointed to learn that this doesn't have HDMI passthru. I was hoping that the whole user experience would be an overlay on the video signal like what they are doing with the new Xbox. Are there any rumors of other manufacturers that will be making hardware for this platform that might be doing HDMI passthru or does Android TV just not support that at this time?
What? DAMNIT!! Was hoping that it would be able to replace my Logitech Revue, which I would then move to the den! UGH!!! Nevermind, may not buy this then, or just get it for the den. This sucks!!
I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
Sent from my Nexus 5
sublimnl said:
I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because I was hoping that it would be able to replace my Logitech Revue in the living room....alas, it looks like it will not. I will probably still buy it though, but for the Den, where much TV is not watched.
sublimnl said:
I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Whether or not that is the future or not remains to be seen. Regardless it is far from being a mainstream viewing approach for the life of this product. The vast majority of consumers will continue to have a cable or satellite service for the forseeable future.
sublimnl said:
I don't understand why you guys expected hdmi passthrough. There was no mention of it at IO and I think they even came out and said they were not going that route anymore. AndroidTV is about the future which means all streaming, all in one box, one input. Use a HTPC and an XBMC front end to watch live and recorded tv on the nexus players and there is no longer a need for any STB so no need for HDMI passthrough. This is what I do already with my firetvs [emoji106]
Sent from my Nexus 5
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
did you even watch the keynote?
android TV is about software - not hardware. it has a tv input framework built right in so manufacturers can take advantage of lots of different tv input options, be it integrated dvb, hdmi input, sat>ip etc.
the nexus player is the first of a long line of android tv devices., no, it does not have hdmi in - but that does not mean that other boxes in the future from different manufacturers wont.
they are actively working with STB manufacturers so that one day - you might not even need to use hdmi input and it will all be done over IP.
all this talk of using xbmc as a frontend is a bit stupid when android tv has it built right in. you just need to be patient for more hardware to come on the market.
https://developer.android.com/training/tv/tif/index.html
Have there been any other vendors that have definitely announced products coming or is everything a rumor this point?
blackic3 said:
did you even watch the keynote?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I did but apparently your memory is better than mine. I stand corrected.
Using xbmc as a front end isn't stupid though as that works today while nothing else I am aware of does. Of course if a better method of getting live tv and DVR functionality on android tv comes along I will be more than willing to switch to whatever is the BEST method for my purposes.
Sent from my Nexus 5
yes their is
http://www.zte-enterprise.com/blog/zxv10-b800s2/
you can be the first
so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
DayDaysTech said:
so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
At this time I would wait just a few weeks as both Razer Forge and Nvidia are releasing new boxes which have better specs.The Nvidia is a little more pricey at $199 the forge will be $99 according to the options you choose. Both will be better boxes if I had to choose. Roku is also due with the Roku 4 anytime now. There will be allot of choices by June.
Im currently using my nexus player solely for xbmc, ive unlocked and rooted it. And ive installed xbmc launcher. Actually im technically using the alpha nightly of kodi. Its amazing. Ive installed genesis, and aeon nox skin. I use the nexus player remote to control kodi. Unles you plan on using the nexus player for kodi, it's useless. But running kodi its damn near perfect.
i love my nexus player. it is not great for everyone though.
first of all you need a mouse and keyboard. and a gamepad.
second and most important you must have a thirst for tinkering to appreciate what you have.
if you just want to consume media stick with chromecast or a cheaper roku.
Kodi runs great on the Nexus Player...the only 2 things for me is the frame rate is locked to 60fps and the inability to play VC-1 (it plays but its pretty unwatchable as I believe it uses software instead of hardware).
What about if you want to play emulators?
if a tablet will run it you can most likely get it to run on the nexus player with some hackery.(lollirock rom will run most tablet apps without much fighting).
my bluetooth controllers work great with the emulators ive tried.
I still think for gamers there are better options coming up. I have the adt1 its a great box guess I am just waiting for the Android Tv box with strong specs. Nvidia Shield?
Don't buy it, I've had mine since 1/22/2015 and I have been having issues with it.
Netflix crashes when I try to choose a show/movie.
Slow at times, including having to fully reset it due to extreme slowdowns.
Remote feels very fragile, buttons feel bad.
Unresponsive when using the remote sometimes.
Voice search is terrible, it's laggy and unreliable. Not to mention it doesn't work with many of the apps.
Wifi connection only, unless you get Micro USB to Ethernet adapter.
No normal sized USB connector, meaning you absolutely need a Micro to Normal USB adapter.
Rooted apps require a mouse and keyboard, the remote most of the time does not work on them. (and remember to hook up a mouse and keyboard you need micro to normal usb adapter)
I feel bad for this Asus/Google product, and wish I could take back my purchase of this item.
Edit:
Most of these issues weren't noticeable when I first got it, but after a while all these things become a big issue.
Here is my take on the Nexus Player:
I've rooted, and installed Droidmote. This allows for controlling sideloaded apps. I have entered custom DNS values to allow for region restricted apps. I transfer apps using the SendAnywhere app. There is much more flexibility with this box than with ones that are locked down. It is more what it can do, than what it does out of the box. There are weaknesses with all streaming media players, but this does everything I need in one box. I haven't had any problems with the Netflix app. For those that like to tinker with android, the Nexus Player is ideal. For those that want an out of the box solution, time will tell.
I regret buying the Nexus Player. It freezes,Bluetooth controller/remote disconnect all the time,lack of apps even with side loading, various app crashes (Netflix mostly),voice search sucks and it just feels like a beta product at best.
DayDaysTech said:
so its time for me to upgrade, i owned a g box and it was cool at the time year or 2 later it starts to give me problems its slow most things dont work ect so iv been using my pc to watch movies via xbmc, now i want to stop and look for a new xbmc media player and seen the nexus player and looks promising, and been looking around a bit about xbmc for it, is this recommended buy? id like a box that is fast able to use xbmc and more less problems lol
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the Android TV platform is great. But the nexus player doesn't seems as good as what is coming soon hardware wise. I'd wait for the Razer forge tv or nvidia shield console.
cheeto said:
I think the Android TV platform is great. But the nexus player doesn't seems as good as what is coming soon hardware wise. I'd wait for the Razer forge tv or nvidia shield console.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah the nvidia looks pretty sweet.
I love it!!
I have had many devices including ATV1,2,3 and the WD TV. The Applee 3 is still used for mirroring from Idevices. The WD was second device as it had and external HDD port but it was constantly rebooting. With my Nexus player I enabled devleoper mode and enabled the USB support. I bought an USB to go cable and installed file explorer. Now it's my favourite device. It can do HDD movies, netflix and Kodi.
Well worth it in my mind. Also had custom roms available if you don't like android TV and want to go to lollipop.
If you can find an Android ADT-1 (the developer's Android TV box), then you'd be better off with that. Much better specs - I've been using mine for nearly 2 months now and since the 5.0.1 update about 7 weeks ago it's been running flawlessly.
Lokke9191 said:
Im currently using my nexus player solely for xbmc, ive unlocked and rooted it. And ive installed xbmc launcher. Actually im technically using the alpha nightly of kodi. Its amazing. Ive installed genesis, and aeon nox skin. I use the nexus player remote to control kodi. Unles you plan on using the nexus player for kodi, it's useless. But running kodi its damn near perfect.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi there,
Were you able to get Navi-X up and running?
This is my main reason for wanting to buy the nexus player. This way, I'd not need to hook my laptop up to the TV and could just access Navi-X from the Nexus Player.
Please advise if you (or anyone else) has been able to get Navi-X running on the nexus player.
Thanks!!
I think the biggest plus for the nexus player would be regular android updates directly from google for a long time.