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[Q] Flashing ROM of Same Region but different Product Code with Odin

Hi all. I wanted to flash a ROM from Same Region (same CSC) but different Product Code with Odin cause I can't already wait for the OTA or kies update for my specific product code.
Question: Will this trip knox flag to 0x1 and/or flash counter?. I think it will not but I am not sure.

lou_pams said:
Hi all. I wanted to flash a ROM from Same Region (same CSC) but different Product Code with Odin cause I can't already wait for the OTA or kies update for my specific product code.
Question: Will this trip knox flag to 0x1 and/or flash counter?. I think it will not but I am not sure.
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Flashing Stock ROM does not trip KNOX.. However some people have reported that it has tripped for them, It shouldn't but there is a small possibility from what others have said.

Rooted with RDLV, Knox 0x0. But, what now?

I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!

Pierre118 said:
I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!
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Somebody show me the way? Just flash the BTU with Odin? I don't mind tripping knox.

Pierre118 said:
I have rooted my Note 3 succesfully with RDLV, without tripping Knox. I am really happy with that.
My phone is branded Vodafone, with CSC N9005VFGBMI1. The latest Firmware for that is MI7.
I have a few questions about this, hope someone can help me with this.
I want to update to N9005XXUDMK2_N9005OXADMK2_BTU.zip. I know it's a different csc, is that possible? (I know I will lose Knox 0x0)
If that is possible, how do I do that?
Thanks!
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1. You should read the thread on how to update the system using Mobile Odin PRO without losing knox 0x0. Also keep in mind that you need to stop both ROM and security automatic updates in order to avoid having the knox flag triggered.
2. Also check http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/1/?model=SM-N9005&pcode=VOD#firmware
3. If you really want to change CSC away from VOD and for instance to BTU you should probably do that first at MI7 level (from your current MI7 VOD to MI7 BTU) if you want maximum safety and to be able to root again with knox 0x0. You might also need an app to help you checking/changing CSC, look around for threads discussing that specific topic.

Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?

Pierre118 said:
Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?
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You do not need to use a firmware with the original CSC, BUT:
- you should try to do as much of the changes as possible on OLDER versions with the old bootloader (so that you can still root and keep knox 0x0)
- writing a ROM with a different CSC will very often NOT change your effective CSC - many ROMs are multi-CSC and you might keep existing CSC on the new ROM; in order to finalize the change you will need to use a program that forces the CSC change (and you will see that the CSC was changed since it will totally wipe the user data in the phone - like a full factory reset)
- you should also be aware that some changes might mess things on your phone, so instead of jumping to the first change you can think-off you should first try to read more around here.

xclub_101 said:
You do not need to use a firmware with the original CSC, BUT:
- you should try to do as much of the changes as possible on OLDER versions with the old bootloader (so that you can still root and keep knox 0x0)
- writing a ROM with a different CSC will very often NOT change your effective CSC - many ROMs are multi-CSC and you might keep existing CSC on the new ROM; in order to finalize the change you will need to use a program that forces the CSC change (and you will see that the CSC was changed since it will totally wipe the user data in the phone - like a full factory reset)
- you should also be aware that some changes might mess things on your phone, so instead of jumping to the first change you can think-off you should first try to read more around here.
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Thanks for your helpful reply. I will take your advice and will read more around here before I do things I don't understand. I'm rooted now at firmware MI7, with 0x0 Knox. I did a lot of reading before I took that step. I will take time before I do the next one.

Pierre118 said:
Thanks for your helpful reply. I will take your advice and will read more around here before I do things I don't understand. I'm rooted now at firmware MI7, with 0x0 Knox. I did a lot of reading before I took that step. I will take time before I do the next one.
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Don't forget to disable automatic updates and security updates. Especially read the thread on Mobile Odin PRO and updating while keeping knox 0x0. (CSC is almost irrelevant in most cases - as long as 3G/4G from your provider is correctly detected; if you are rooted with knox 0x0 you will ALWAYS want to update the ROM manually under YOUR control and not when Samsung or your carrier wants to update your phone).

xclub_101 said:
Don't forget to disable automatic updates and security updates. Especially read the thread on Mobile Odin PRO and updating while keeping knox 0x0. (CSC is almost irrelevant in most cases - as long as 3G/4G from your provider is correctly detected; if you are rooted with knox 0x0 you will ALWAYS want to update the ROM manually under YOUR control and not when Samsung or your carrier wants to update your phone).
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What do you freeze in titanium backup so it won't update.

Dattack said:
What do you freeze in titanium backup so it won't update.
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Software Update (also Samsung Hub Update, but that is just since I never use the Samsung Hub). Right now I did not freeze the Security Policy Update but I am tempted - but on that I first disabled automatic security updates somewhere in settings.

Pierre118 said:
Can I safely use a firmware with a CSC N9005VFGDMJ1? Or do I always have to use a firmware of the original CSC? (N9005VFGBMI1)?
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In fact N9005VFGDMJ1 and N9005VFGBMI1 are from the same CSC

[Q] Downgrading Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 from 4.4.2→4.3 without E-Fuse/Guarantee Loss

[Q] Downgrading Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 from 4.4.2→4.3 without E-Fuse/Guarantee Loss
Hello everybody.
Is there any way to downgrade the Galaxy Note 3 SM-N9005 from 4.4.2 to 4.3, without triggering the E-Fuse-Chip to short-circuit which causes feautre-loss and guarantee loss?
It's OK, if the Guarantee is just TEMPORAIRLY disabled, while the downgrade is in progress
But after the downgrade, the device should be like a new one.
I also don't want any damage on my device like lower processing power, guarantee loss, heat problems or compatibility problems.
Also, i've already backed all data up, so backup isn't really needed.
Please don't ask me, why i want to take this downgrade. KitKat has so many unknown software disadvantages, and compatibility problems and it's too bogus.
If you know, how to do this, but you don't think, that a downgrade is not needed, please post it yet.
Short Story
The Shop, where the Note 3 is bought from mentioned this device to have Android 4.3 Jelly Bean, but i was shocked/disappointed, after i saw KitKat.​
The KitKat-Wafer is quite tasty, but the Android-Operation-System is quite bitter.
I really appreciate any help you can provide.

Far as I know flashing an official binary will not trip your Knox. Don't know about KK to JB downgrades because the bootloader can not be flashing back to JB after KK has been applied.

AO7 said:
Far as I know flashing an official binary will not trip your Knox. Don't know about KK to JB downgrades because the bootloader can not be flashing back to JB after KK has been applied.
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Thank you very much for answering.
So, i just have to start ODIN, and let's/here we go?

Right?
What i understand
So that means:
Download ODIN
Install ODIN
Download Firmware
Connect Note 3 to PC
[*]Let's go (Load Firmware on Note 3)
Will the downgrade be sucessfully?
No Guarantee Loss
[*]No eFuse-Trigger
No Feature Loss
No Other Problems
Temporaire guarantee loss is OK, if it can be restored.
But i don't want to Trigger the EFuse-Short Circuit.

Missing
Step 1 download and install Samsung/ Kies USB drivers .
Open Odin put relevant files in correct box.
Connect phone to PC
Make sure correct boxes ticked in Odin .
Hit start button
No Guarantee Loss >>> No not 100% possible .
Knox Triggered by custom rom / kernel/ recovery not by stock rom .
Really would not downgrade as i don't see you as understanding the basics .
Is your EFS folder backed up is question 1 as a downgrade may lose your IMEI .

Hannah Stern said:
What i understand
So that means:
Download ODIN
Install ODIN
Download Firmware
Connect Note 3 to PC
[*]Let's go (Load Firmware on Note 3)
Will the downgrade be sucessfully?
No Guarantee Loss
[*]No eFuse-Trigger
No Feature Loss
No Other Problems
Temporaire guarantee loss is OK, if it can be restored.
But i don't want to Trigger the EFuse-Short Circuit.
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I'm gonna agree with the poster above Hannah. It looks like you don't really understand what you are doing.
Here's a very quick rundown:
1. Get the Samsung phone drivers
2. Get Odin 3.09
3. Get EFS professional and make several EFS backups of all partitions
4. If your phone is carrier branded only download stock firmware specifically for your carrier brand. Otherwise any region stock firmware should work. Do not use Hong Kong FW unless your phone is from HK. for safety, stick to firmware of your approximate geographical area to avoid possible issues with modems.
5. Read, read, and read as many threads on this forum as you can.
6. There are a bunch of steps after this which i won't all type out. Refer to point 5...

JJEgan said:
Missing
Step 1 download and install Samsung/ Kies USB drivers .
Open Odin put relevant files in correct box.
Connect phone to PC
Make sure correct boxes ticked in Odin .
Hit start button
No Guarantee Loss >>> No not 100% possible .
Knox Triggered by custom rom / kernel/ recovery not by stock rom .
Really would not downgrade as i don't see you as understanding the basics .
Is your EFS folder backed up is question 1 as a downgrade may lose your IMEI .
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OK, Understood
AO7 said:
I'm gonna agree with the poster above Hannah. It looks like you don't really understand what you are doing.
Here's a very quick rundown:
1. Get the Samsung phone drivers
2. Get Odin 3.09
3. Get EFS professional and make several EFS backups of all partitions
4. If your phone is carrier branded only download stock firmware specifically for your carrier brand. Otherwise any region stock firmware should work. Do not use Hong Kong FW unless your phone is from HK. for safety, stick to firmware of your approximate geographical area to avoid possible issues with modems.
5. Read, read, and read as many threads on this forum as you can.
6. There are a bunch of steps after this which i won't all type out. Refer to point 5...
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OK, Thanks very much.

I've got a German SM-N9005
What is the Newest Baseband Version with Android 4.3?
I think, it is:
PDA: N9005XXUDMJ7
CSC: N9005OXADMJ4
Or is MK2 newer?

Hannah Stern said:
I've got a German SM-N9005
What is the Newest Baseband Version with Android 4.3?
I think, it is:
PDA: N9005XXUDMJ7
CSC: N9005OXADMJ4
Or is MK2 newer?
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Very basic Samsung FW decoder:
Device identifer - region code - FW identificator ( The lower the letter in the alphabet the newer the software)
N9005 - XXU - MJ7
This is the last 4.3 FW for DBT (Generic Germany)
http://samsung-updates.com/details/22095/Galaxy_Note_3_Snapdragon/SM-N9005/DBT/N9005XXUDMK2.html

AO7 said:
It looks like you don't really understand what you are doing.
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That's why i was asking.
>>> But thank you very much for letting me know, which is the lastest 4.3-JB-Firmware for the Galaxy Note 3 and telling me, how Samsung's Firmware Codes work.
I owe you something for that great post...
The only problems are the upload sites:
Both pages Suck
UL.TO - Dead Link
RapidGator - Struggle to Download
But i managed it to download that file.
Thank you very much @AO7. The world needs more people like you.

Baseband is Modem and not always updated at the same time as firmware updated .

@JJEgan
 @AO7
I'm trapped.
Is there any way to
Root without triggering EFuse
or EFS-Backup without root?
Here's my thread about EFuse. (This text is the link itself)

Hannah Stern said:
@JJEgan
@AO7
I'm trapped.
Is there any way to
Root without triggering EFuse
or EFS-Backup without root?
Here's my thread about EFuse. (This text is the link itself)
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I use EFS Backup Pro to backup my modem and EFS partitions but that requires root. TWRP also has the ability to backup the modem partition, but flashing a custom recovery will trigger knox 0x1.
I've tripped my knox over a year ago so I don't keep up with how to root the phone while keeping knox 0x0. A quick google gave me this post but I have not tried it myself.
If you manage to root your phone and keep it 0x0 than technically I imagine you can backup your EFS. The question is it's still worthwhile to go to all this trouble. The N9005 is approaching its' second birthday. In my personal case, since I don't care for extended warranties on electronics, my legal basic warranty already expired some time ago anyway.
there might be some obscure proprietary Samsung features that depend on Knox. But other than those, I see no real point in trying to keep your phone 0x0.

AO7 said:
I use EFS Backup Pro to backup my modem and EFS partitions but that requires root. TWRP also has the ability to backup the modem partition, but flashing a custom recovery will trigger knox 0x1.
I've tripped my knox over a year ago so I don't keep up with how to root the phone while keeping knox 0x0. A quick google gave me this post but I have not tried it myself.
If you manage to root your phone and keep it 0x0 than technically I imagine you can backup your EFS. The question is it's still worthwhile to go to all this trouble. The N9005 is approaching its' second birthday. In my personal case, since I don't care for extended warranties on electronics, my legal basic warranty already expired some time ago anyway.
there might be some obscure proprietary Samsung features that depend on Knox. But other than those, I see no real point in trying to keep your phone 0x0.
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EFS backup always shows up an error while starting up. Then it closes itself.
EFS and EFuse...:crying:

does anyone here still have that jelly bean file?

pottylotty said:
does anyone here still have that jelly bean file?
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What JB file ???

Difference between model number and about device

Hi, i know there is another thread but i think is not the same problem.
In "About Device" my S5 show SM-G900F branded for United Arab Emirates (XSG - G900FXXU1POEC) but in "Download Mode" the screen info show me different version of galaxy S5..... SM-G9006V wich is from China.....wtf?
Is something like that legit?
My question is if i want to flash new firmware for XSG ( G900FXXU1POI1 ) will it work or i brick device / or trip Knox?
The firmware for SM-G9006V use different CSC and if i try to flash this will triping KNOX waranty, is corect?
INFO
-I forgot to mention that sees no new firmware via Kies, OTA or Smart Switch although there are two firmware already released.
-When i try "Firmware upgrade and initialization" in Kies 3 after type of Model name field -SM-G900F and serial number
its say my serial number is wrong but when type in Model name field SM-G9006V and serial the procedure want to continue wich meant is OK.

The System operational you need to download the exact one that is described on Download Mode.
The Download mode is the real one.
If you want to flash only the modem/CSC you can flash the G900F.
But the Kernel and the Bootloader i think you need to flash the G9006V.
if you flash an Firmware differently from your download mode you can brick your device (Soft-Brick, not Hard-Brick)
If you bought it from someone, you can easily edit on config to show anything you want on About Device.

Hi, thanks for answer, but its something i dont get it.
How they manage to do some thing, flashing G9006V firmware and after that flashing G900F XSG firmware ( AP-CP-CSC) without triger the Knox.
Anyway, Is there an easier way to flash the latest update for the UAE of September 2015 and to keep the same configuration, the bootloader from G9006V,
XSG G900F kernel and CSC from UAE without enable Knox or brick my phone.

cryogent said:
Hi, thanks for answer, but its something i dont get it.
How they manage to do some thing, flashing G9006V firmware and after that flashing G900F XSG firmware ( AP-CP-CSC) without triger the Knox.
Anyway, Is there an easier way to flash the latest update for the UAE of September 2015 and to keep the same configuration, the bootloader from G9006V,
XSG G900F kernel and CSC from UAE without enable Knox or brick my phone.
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As far as I know only custom kernels and custom recoveries trigger Knox. Technically custom non touchwiz roms also will I believe, but since you flash them from recovery that's a little implied, not 100% sure on that though, someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

To flash anything you need to root. therefore you are going to trigger the knox.
I BELIEVE that you can only flash original firmware TOUCH WIZ without root

DBlackFireD said:
To flash anything you need to root. therefore you are going to trigger the knox.
I BELIEVE that you can only flash original firmware TOUCH WIZ without root
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Rooting does not trigger Knox.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

The only root method that WON'T trip knox is towelroot, and that method won't work on anything other than KitKat.
CF Root WILL trip knox.
TWRP WILL trip knox.
So for most people rooting will trip knox
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

I would like to point out that using apps such as kingoroot allow one click roots that won't trip Knox. After the build.prop is modified they can just unroot and it'll be like nothing happened

justinxfan said:
I would like to point out that using apps such as kingoroot allow one click roots that won't trip Knox. After the build.prop is modified they can just unroot and it'll be like nothing happened
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Point noted....I have no experience of those root methods....
The methods I mentioned are the main methods (with dedicated threads) to be found/mentioned on XDA........
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg

Thank you all for your help but leave this thread because I gave the phone back and chose another producer.
The problem could not be solved by those at the store because all the phones were lot of the same trouble.
Sorry I can not help you with other information in the future.

Thank
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Can i flash my samsung s10 plus with different region stock os using odin without bre

I bought my mobile from UAE and am using it in india. When i compare my s10 plus with s10 indian variant , s10 front camera quality far beter than my s10 plus.so i m planning to flash indian region os using odin and have some doubt on this. Please some one clear my doubts
1. Will knox service get tripped, if i flash indian os using odin.?
2. Is this issue occurs due to different region os or hardware fault
3. If knox gets tripped, will it be fixed later ?
Thanks

Doesnt trip knox if you flash a stock firmware

Player04 said:
Doesnt trip knox if you flash a stock firmware
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Thanks for your reply, will i get OTA updates after installed my region firmware.?

Anyone please respond my question..am getting different answer from different tech sites. Some people are saying flash different region rom will affect the knox. Some of us telling, it wont. Please confirm it.

saravanan vs said:
Thanks for your reply, will i get OTA updates after installed my region firmware.?
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Yes you will get OTA after flashing a stock firmware using Odin
Use the main CSC file (not the HOME-CSC) if changing region
I always enable OEM Unlock in developer options before attempting to change CSC with Odin (disable OEM Unlock again after you have completed flash to enable full security)
You can only flash a firmware file that matches your model Variant
E.g. you cannot flash 975F firmware to an 975U model etc
Finally be aware your phone will be wiped after the flash completes so backup everything before you start. Good luck

Thanks a lot for your reply. And i am not get your points about CSC...can you please explain little more

saravanan vs said:
Thanks a lot for your reply. And i am not get your points about CSC...can you please explain little more
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Firmware for Odin flash contains 2 CSC files. The HOME_CSC file will NOT erase your device, the CSC one will. However as you are changing CSC code it is best to use the normal CSC file and allow your device data to be erased as it’s not a good idea to mix data and settings between different firmware
Hope this helps and good luck

Thanks for your reply