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[Q] Very newbie question about customising n9005

Hi all
Let me start by saying what an awesome forum this is and there are some very talented people on here I have been looking at this forum for a little while now and have decided that it is time for me to bite the bullet and try and fit in and become an active part of this community.
I brought a note 3 for my wife for her birthday and must say I was so impressed I have now ordered one for myself and am currently waiting for it to arrive (be on bread and water for a few weeks now lol). The main reason I was so impressed was the features of the S-pen and do not want to lose any of its features. However, I really am not keen on the standard icons in the taskbar and the quicklaunch etc. I really prefer more colours and the hey look at me style
So my question: really not sure what to do and wondered what you guys thought and recommended should I root and install a theme or customise using something like wanam or I like quite the look of the BobCatRom should I go the whole hog and install this (if I do will the s-pen still function the same). and also I presume that the second I root I will trip the knox counter can you foresee this being a problem in the future.
Thanks in advance for any advice

ab1000uk said:
Hi all
Let me start by saying what an awesome forum this is and there are some very talented people on here I have been looking at this forum for a little while now and have decided that it is time for me to bite the bullet and try and fit in and become an active part of this community.
I brought a note 3 for my wife for her birthday and must say I was so impressed I have now ordered one for myself and am currently waiting for it to arrive (be on bread and water for a few weeks now lol). The main reason I was so impressed was the features of the S-pen and do not want to lose any of its features. However, I really am not keen on the standard icons in the taskbar and the quicklaunch etc. I really prefer more colours and the hey look at me style
So my question: really not sure what to do and wondered what you guys thought and recommended should I root and install a theme or customise using something like wanam or I like quite the look of the BobCatRom should I go the whole hog and install this (if I do will the s-pen still function the same). and also I presume that the second I root I will trip the knox counter can you foresee this being a problem in the future.
Thanks in advance for any advice
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Yeah it's a nice phone.. :good:
Well any ROM that is TW based and not AOSP based will still have SPen features, there's a few ROMS, Bobcat/xnote/alliance/civz/omega etc etc, it's pretty much personal choice as they vary by quite a lot - You can use a theme sure, or you can theme a custom launcher like Nova/Apex etc also.
You may need to read up on KNOX and other rooting issues, however since you are UK -- KNOX won't be an issue for you under the EU directive.

thankyou for the quick reply thats really handy to know think i will probably go the custom rom route.
have used Omega rom before on s3 and s4 and found it to be very stable but am really tempted by BobCatRom but see a lot of people seem to like xnote.. decisions decisions lol
What i meant about knox by future problems can you envisage any must have apps coming out that wont install if the counter has been tripped.
Thanks again this forum really is awesome and its all down to the members

ab1000uk said:
thankyou for the quick reply thats really handy to know think i will probably go the custom rom route.
have used Omega rom before on s3 and s4 and found it to be very stable but am really tempted by BobCatRom but see a lot of people seem to like xnote.. decisions decisions lol
What i meant about knox by future problems can you envisage any must have apps coming out that wont install if the counter has been tripped.
Thanks again this forum really is awesome and its all down to the members
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Knox should not be an issue for you as you seem to not care about the warranty (right?).
Once Knox is tripped (0x1), you can't use it. Thats it. It will have no effect whatsoever on any apps or features and they will continue to work fine.
The only thing you lose after tripping Knox is your warranty and Sammy's "Business/Enterprise Security" model (aka Knox), you wont be able to set it up and create different profiles for Work and Play.
S-Pen will also work fine.

Thankyou that has definitely cleared things up and help me to try and make a decision.
Just to be sure i take it rooting and putting on a TW based rom will not affect the use of the galaxy gear (I am thinking of putting Null on)

ab1000uk said:
Thankyou that has definitely cleared things up and help me to try and make a decision.
Just to be sure i take it rooting and putting on a TW based rom will not affect the use of the galaxy gear (I am thinking of putting Null on)
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Won't affect the Gear no.

I would wait with tripping knox for couple weeks and make sure the phone works good on stock first. For starters you would know then if something stops working is it because of factory issue or due to flashing, also it would make warranty repairs or exchange less of a hassle.
Also some things are impossible to undo, like knox flag or updating to KitKat.

Also you should really consider whether going for the latest android 4.4.2 which is by far the best version regarding performance but has some thing missing for my taste like lockscreen effects still is in it's early stages which means no heavy development has been made so far and on top of that you have to flash the rom without flashing the new bootloader if you don't wanna be stuck on 4.4.2 and the kernels available for 4.4.2. don't have over clocking capabilities...going back to 4.3 is impossible at this time learnd it the hard way also if you have second thoughts regarding the warranty I have heard rumors that people who need their phone getting fixed just damage it on purpose so it won't boot not even download mode so Samsung can't detect whether it has been tempered with or not so they change your phone's board how they do that is still unclear to me.

Should I upgrade to Android 5.0 Lollipop? Can someone explain the big deal?

I'm a supreme root user and I absolutely love my Xposed modules.
Should I upgrade to Android 5? I've always rushed straight to upgrade every time but this time I am having huge doubts.
People say the battery life is even worse, my phone only lasts about a day with greenify/amplify/etc. installed.
Also they are always complaining about apps crashing and not yet supporting Android 5.
Also I can't use Xposed Framework on Android 5 (this is a huge setback) and I am unsure if rooting will be as simple either.
Lastly, my KNOX is 0x0, but that doesn't matter anyway because I'll still keep my warranty in Europe even if I trigger the flash counter.
I was thinking of getting some kind of Google only, Nexus flavour of Android 5 for my Galaxy S 5.
I hate all the bloat and garbage that Samsung put on their phones. I am also so sick of only having roughly 300-400MB of RAM free on this phone... I was hoping the sleek Google version of Android 5 would give me a lot more RAM. It's really the only thing kind of weighing me down at the moment. Does Android 5 take less RAM?
Anyway what do you guys think? I guess an upgrade is eventually inevitable but this by far sounds like the worst upgrade to Android ever... Everyone talks about how 'material design' is so awesome, but frankly I don't care about that and it doesn't interest me in the slightest. The rest of it all, from the stupid white colour changes that will just drain more battery from me, to the rounding of apps, also don't interest me in the slightest.
So what exactly IS the improvement? Because people seem to absolutely hate it:
http://www.androidpit.com/galaxy-s5-android-update

leijonasisu said:
I'm a supreme root user and I absolutely love my Xposed modules.
Should I upgrade to Android 5?
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No.

Currently its now NOT TOTALLY worth it due to these reasons below :
-its not yet stable (certain lags and ram issues >> i fixed these using build.prop mods but its not 100% fixed)
-xposed is not there yet for sammy lollipop (need lots of work to get a simple mod)
but im using it and i can tell you the upsides :
-the ui is a bit cooler ... although i hate white but its cool actually
-battery is better !! believe it or not i get nearly the same life as kitkat and sometimes more
-its alot smoother not speedier but its silky smooth also applies in gaming :laugh:

I haven't upgraded to Lollipop yet due to all the negative feedback I hear about it. Mainly the feedback on the reduced battery life and overall software performance. I love my S5's battery life currently and would hate to see it get worse. Personally, I'll be waiting for a future Android version that solves some of these problems before updating.

To add......good luck with getting warranty repair on a knox tripped device......
Even in Europe, it ain't gonna happen.......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5

keithross39 said:
To add......good luck with getting warranty repair on a knox tripped device......
Even in Europe, it ain't gonna happen.......
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
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My KNOX isn't tripped and I am not sure if you understand but EU law stipulates that they MUST repair my device even if I trip the KNOX counter. (Which I said I haven't yet).
It's only in countries like America and Australia and parts of Asia and Russia that they do not have to honor warranty. I've had my devices within the EU repaired before with tripped counters over warranty.
Either way that's the least of my concern as I take care of my devices and only the useless Galaxy S 3 I used to own ever failed on me.
I guess I won't upgrade then. A few 'cooler' looking UI elements and stuff don't remotely interest me. I use Themer anyway and I don't think I am currently missing out on anything.
Frankly I don't see the point of this upgrade. For KitKat we got a security change via SELinux and a lot of other improvements. Lollipop just seems like a boring Placebo upgrade that really doesn't serve any purpose but to change the behaviour of apps in some ways and make them more 'unified' across different displays and configurations. What I have seen so far disappoints me greatly.
Having said that, when I get the new HTC One phone, obviously I will be forced to have Android 5. But until then I think I am happy staying with 4.4.2.

Lol.....I read and understood that you hadn't tripped knox......i'm just saying that you will find it harder than you think to get a repair on a knox tripped device.....
See this thread for details.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2996873
it contains screen shots of an email conversation that I had with Samsung...It seems pretty clear as to what their official company policy is..........
You'd be better off sticking with 4.1.2 anyway.......root it, debloat it and apply Xposed to it.......
Some disadvantages of 5.0.+........
1) new secure bootloader
2) some user app incompatibility
3) WIFI issues
4) s health issues
5) xposed support
6) battery efficiency
And those are just the issues I can think of while writing this post.......
Fairly sure there are others too.....
Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5

Definitely no.
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Don't install Lollipop. Wait until all the bugs are worked out, even if it takes months.

Shocker! I'm considering not rooting

I've rooted my last 3 phones, and for the longest time, considered it an essential step in the true Android experience.
But let's be honest, rooting is a bit of a PITA. You risk destroying your warranty, which worries me with a phone that I got on launch day. You have issues with OTA updates. If you load a custom ROM, you're blowing away all your settings each time you load an update. There's more, but I won't keep going.
Of course, there are a LOT of benefits, too. Most of them, however, are ways around annoying little nits that I have, and with this phone, I find fewer of those nits, and far fewer items that are larger than nits. With the improvements in Android and with a good launcher, I can completely hide away all of the annoying Sprint and Samsung apps.
If I rooted this phone, these are the benefits that I think I could realize are: Getting rid of the volume warning (nit), changing my boot animation (nit), Titanium backup (which I don't really need if I'm not constantly loading a new ROM), better ad blocking (nit), the ability to remove unwanted apps (bit of a nit, but it would be beneficial to reclaim the ram and storage space), and probably the biggest - wifi hotspot (which I rarely use, but I will miss if I don't have it).
I'm curious if anyone else thinks this same way about this phone. Are there other serial rooters who are not rooting the S6?

well, first thing I did with my S6 was to load custom recovery and custom ROM

Still on the same boat, don't want to trip knox by installing a custom recovery or custom kernel and not knowing what ping-pong root really does is a little worrisome.

When considering whether to root or not your S6, remember that there is a debloat method which doesn't require root: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/safe-to-debloat-s6-threads-t3090383.
I agree with OP: as time passes by and Android evolves there are less and less "serious" reasons to root a phone.

Pingpong is pretty safe(warranty wise) and it's easy to reflash your stock rom. I usually never root on first day but now I saw no reason not to.

Having had a rooted phone since the days of cupcake I wasn't sure what I was getting into when I got my Xperia Z2 before it was rootable with a locked bootloader and in those few months I discovered I could live without titanium backup if I wasn't flashing roms left right and centre but I hadn't realised how pervasive ads had become in the mobile world and it was something that really bugged me, as the non-root blocking methods didn't give me much joy, so when root was finally achieved I knew I couldn't live without ad-blocking.
Fast-forward a year and I was holding off the S6 for the precise reason of not being able to root without tripping knox (which given the track record of my S2, S3 & S4 all needing to be repaired under warranty I cannot afford to do), but I ended up getting it thanks to breaking my Z2, with the hope of something like pingpong coming soon enough. This time again I found it painful dealing with the ads again but to add to that there's the frankly rubbish battery in this phone compared with my old Z2, and I was having little joy zapping all the wakelocks until I got root and greenify.
So TLDR, can't live without proper ad-blocking and greenify is essential for the S6 if you actually want to have a reasonable amount of functionality without carrying around a charger.

As for me, I like rooting so I can remove bloat, freezing an app is not the same as removing it and I can't stand ads. Do what you like, I have never had issues with warranties even with knox tripped. I have had the S, S3, S4, and now the S6 and I have never had to use the warranty, which expires after the first year anyway.

ipaq_101 said:
As for me, I like rooting so I can remove bloat, freezing an app is not the same as removing it and I can't stand ads. Do what you like, I have never had issues with warranties even with knox tripped. I have had the S, S3, S4, and now the S6 and I have never had to use the warranty, which expires after the first year anyway.
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well, Samsung offers 2 years warranty, here in Europe anyway.

I have rooted pretty much every single android phone I have owned and with the superb debloater app I have zero need for root now and unless Samsung do something which is very invasive I cannot see any reason to root in the future,
That and the fact I have heard of stories of ping pong root tripping knox on some devices is worrying.

I rooted every phone which I had on the first day and never had problems with warranty but the phones hasn't knox. My note 3 was rooted too but there wasn't any reason sending to repair.
Now with the s6 I don't need the root.
The Rom is debloated for. There was only Microsoft and Vodafone apps. I use them both so no reason to debloat.

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I haven't and wont root this phone. I use adblock browser which gives me a perfect ad free browsing experience. I use zero apps which bombard me with annoying ads I can't ignore, I have plenty of space on my phone, and custom Rom's won't make it faster or more stable or improve battery life so personally there's no point.

I go back and forth with the idea of rooting. Right now, there's no method for my build - so, I want to root. Previously, when there was a method for build - I didn't root. I'm kinda of the similar thought as the OP...is there really a need to root anymore? The majority of the reasons/features we rooted our phones for in the first place are now part of Android. If I do root, it will be to get the maximum benefit out of using Greenify and TB.

I've rooted all my previous android devices and this is the first phone that I don't feel like I need rooting. I did go through the process with PingPong-root so that I could clean up some apps but after I couldn't get OTA's I went and restored it to factory settings. With Nova Launcher and the ability to inactivate most of the apps I don't use I don't see the need of rooting it just yet..

I decided that I couldn't live without rooting. Those "Nits" drive crazy and I like the freedom. But I have pretty much decided to not put any custom Roms on. No matter what I end up with bugs that just aren't on the Stock Rom.

I unrooted a few days ago to fix Google now (I broke it somehow) and am having a hard time redoing it. Other then modding the themes..I can't find another reason. Most of the time I break stuff anyways lol so might be better if I dont!

Sheldor1967 said:
I decided that I couldn't live without rooting. Those "Nits" drive crazy and I like the freedom. But I have pretty much decided to not put any custom Roms on. No matter what I end up with bugs that just aren't on the Stock Rom.
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Yeah that's the only way I do it. I just root the stock rom and get rid of the ads. Backup my apps with titanium backup. All the usual things that I can't do with a non rooted phone.
With regards,
Beston94

My biggest reason I'd consider rooting is AirAudio -> Airport Express devices.

I need root as I use the automation app tasker an awful lot. I haven't purchased an s6 yet but it is something I am debating. It is between the s6 and N6 but either way I will be rooting whichever I choose
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Sheldor1967 said:
I decided that I couldn't live without rooting. Those "Nits" drive crazy and I like the freedom. But I have pretty much decided to not put any custom Roms on. No matter what I end up with bugs that just aren't on the Stock Rom.
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Which method did you opt for with regards to rooting?

Flashed TWRP and the rooted from there. Knox is tripped - O-Well. I did it before the other methods were available...

Is Galaxy S6 worth rooting?

Hi guys!
I'm writing this thread to anyone who is considering rooting his own S6. Well I wasn't sure for 5 month because I was afraid of losing my warranty. Like 3 days ago I decided to end with bloatware. This was one of the best thing I did in my life with my phone. Flashed XtreStoLite and custom kernel (arter97) and this device is now crazy fast... Damn I didn't expect these results. Also my battery is now much improved than it was before.
I know it's XDA forum, but maybe there are people like me, who are still waiting to root their phones. This thread will help them to take their decision.
Also you guys with rooted phones - write your feelings when you did it.

I've always rooted my phones and used custom ROMs, but I've become more and more reliant on my mobile banking apps recently. As they don't work on rooted phones, my S6 is staying unrooted.

Is Samsung Pay the only function you lose when rooting and/or installing a custom TW ROM?

HKSpeed said:
Is Samsung Pay the only function you lose when rooting and/or installing a custom TW ROM?
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Hmmm... In my country Samsung pay is not available yet. So I don't care about this one. Also I don't know about any other disadvantages of root or custom ROM.

HKSpeed said:
Is Samsung Pay the only function you lose when rooting and/or installing a custom TW ROM?
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You also lose Knox, warranty (depending upon your country) and OTAs.

I've always rooted my phones starting back when the galaxy s fascinate came out, been on this forum a long time and rooted lots of tabs and phones thru here. You can always flash back to stock if you don't like root.

I actually rooted my Nexus 5 but don't feel the need to root my S6. The only thing i used it was to change the dpi on nexus but with the screen grid option i don't even need to on S6. Phone is working perfectly fine and unrooted gives me peace of mind of safety and OTA updates.

Since Adblock Fast is available for M6.0.1, I don't need to root my SGS6. Web advertisements and banners was main reason for rooting my phone, because i was using Adaway, which is "root only" app. Adblock Fast is working like Adaway (except adcvertisements in free apps, of course - i don´t mind of that, I'm willing to pay for good app) and without root. Yes, with root I can have more functionality (exposed framework, tweaking stock apps, ...), but I can live without that. And I'm happy that my Knox is not tripped and have automatic OTAs.

I'm incredibly glad I didn't jump straight into rooting mine... The camera started to occasionally play up after a month, sometimes making a noise when focusing. This progressed over the months to becoming more frequent, and sometimes I'd have to literally shake the phone to get it to focus.
Two months in I handed it in but they couldn't find anything wrong with it. Five months in it was so bad that they couldn't deny it and repaired it there and then when I read the newspaper with a coffee (kudos to Samsung: only some stores offer that service).
So yeah, I wouldn't root my phone again within six months for that reason.
I'll still root it though - I'm just waiting for official TWRP compatibility at the moment.
As a side note, I asked the guy who handed my phone back if they check KNOX routinely. He told me yes for software issues, and occasionally for hardware issues (especially for screen issues). He didn't bother checking mine apparently.

2ZE said:
I'm incredibly glad I didn't jump straight into rooting mine... The camera started to occasionally play up after a month, sometimes making a noise when focusing. This progressed over the months to becoming more frequent, and sometimes I'd have to literally shake the phone to get it to focus.
Two months in I handed it in but they couldn't find anything wrong with it. Five months in it was so bad that they couldn't deny it and repaired it there and then when I read the newspaper with a coffee (kudos to Samsung: only some stores offer that service).
So yeah, I wouldn't root my phone again within six months for that reason.
I'll still root it though - I'm just waiting for official TWRP compatibility at the moment.
As a side note, I asked the guy who handed my phone back if they check KNOX routinely. He told me yes for software issues, and occasionally for hardware issues (especially for screen issues). He didn't bother checking mine apparently.
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Just so you know there is official twrp support

552eden said:
Just so you know there is official twrp support
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Not for MM bootloader. TWRP on MM at the moment can only be installed via Chainfire's or Arter's modified version

Big_Rich_1983 said:
I've always rooted my phones and used custom ROMs, but I've become more and more reliant on my mobile banking apps recently. As they don't work on rooted phones, my S6 is staying unrooted.
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Rootcloak fixes this.
I rooted mine mainly for adaway and xposed, but I have to say that not getting OTA is annoying - however Samsung is too slow with the updates that I don't care anymore (still no marshmallow in my country).

I had problems with mine I was on 5.1.1 rooted updated to marshmallow my phone came up with emergency calls only back on 5.1.1 after repair funny thing is the repair shop rooted my phone to make sim work again weird

Hi guys (and gals)
I've always rooted my phones because I wanted to have more powerful, flexible device. I did this with my old HTC Wildfire, HTC Desire HD and Nexus 4 but with S6 I don't feel I need this anymore. The device is just as good as-it-is – without root, Xposed, mods and so on. And 6.0.1 update gave it new shine and powers. Of course it's my personal opinion only but I must repeat – Galaxy S6 is the first Android phone I'm pleased to use without any modifications (maybe except for Nova Laucher ).
Have a great day!

I am happier with my marshmallow now that it's 6.0.1 rooted with xposed mods to tweak with it. I'll always root if I can just because I can't stand not messing with it, lol.

Hoccco said:
Rootcloak fixes this.
I rooted mine mainly for adaway and xposed, but I have to say that not getting OTA is annoying - however Samsung is too slow with the updates that I don't care anymore (still no marshmallow in my country).
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I got Marshmallow 6.0.1 about 2-3 weeks ago, and I've had two minor updates (around 13-15Mb each) since then. Can't fault Samsung in my country.

Why is Development for the S7 edge I S7 dead?

Good Hello Everyone,
so I just got my S7 edge today aaand the first thing I do after getting home is obviously visit the S7 edge section on xda! but oh boy... what's this what I'm seeing! or should I say not seeing? basically no roms and not a single custom kernel!!! I'm deceased:crying:.
WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? :crying:
Development on the S6 was simply great. Switching to a Note 5 well not so great but had some gems. But now "upgrading" to a S7 edge and being faced with this tragedy? Oh man I hope this changes in the near future.

I wouldn't expect any change to the U.S. version. If rooting is really important to you, return the phone while you can.
I have to ask, though: Why didn't you look at XDA before deciding what phone to buy?

meyerweb said:
I wouldn't expect any change to the U.S. version. If rooting is really important to you, return the phone while you can.
I have to ask, though: Why didn't you look at XDA before deciding what phone to buy?
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I was wondering the same thing.....

Because 2016. Flagships dont really need any development now. The purpose of custom roms was better battery, faster speeds, less lag, etc. But today's flagships already have all of those things. There are no improvements you can make. I have stopped rooting/ROMing my phones since last year because i just dont feel the need anymore. You will probably get a few roms in the future anyway , but I dont think the community will be anywhere near as active as before in the development section.

I'm happy with this phone the way it is actually! So far not missing root for a month now. I shudder to think all the time I spent the past six years rooting, flashing, fixing, etc.
Besides that's what a Nexus is for!
Sent from my SM-G935V using Tapatalk

I wouldn't go that far as saying the development has stopped. There are coming custom Rom. Tho, not as many as before, I'll agree with that.
When it comes to custom kernel, you can have a look at this tread
Apparently Samsung priorities security because of Samsung pay.
When it comes to what @mahdibassam says, I disagree. A good example was the S6, who had major bugs from Samsung side. The the first to fix it was this community with the custom roms.
There is always room for improvements.

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I wouldn't go that far as saying the development has stopped. There are coming custom Rom. Tho, not as many as before, I'll agree with that.
When it comes to custom kernel, you can have a look at this tread
Apparently Samsung priorities security because of Samsung pay.
When it comes to what @mahdibassam says, I disagree. A good example was the S6, who had major bugs from Samsung side. The the first to fix it was this community with the custom roms.
There is always room for improvements.
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Well, if a phone is buggy, then that warrants the need for a custom rom. E.g. the LG G4 was in dire need of improvement. But can you give me one area where the S7 edge is lacking and would need a custom rom to fix? I really cant think of any.

mahdibassam said:
Well, if a phone is buggy, then that warrants the need for a custom rom. E.g. the LG G4 was in dire need of improvement. But can you give me one area where the S7 edge is lacking and would need a custom rom to fix? I really cant think of any.
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If you're happy with the S7 as it is, then that's good. But for me, and many others, the phone ain't complete "mine" until root is there, and maybe some custom roms, where they are already debloated and deodexd.
It's all about custom preference
Especially the kernel part is important for me, as that's the real thing when it comes too set the phone free, and really get the use of all the power the phone holds.

chieco said:
Good Hello Everyone,
so I just got my S7 edge today aaand the first thing I do after getting home is obviously visit the S7 edge section on xda! but oh boy... what's this what I'm seeing! or should I say not seeing? basically no roms and not a single custom kernel!!! I'm deceased:crying:.
WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? :crying:
Development on the S6 was simply great. Switching to a Note 5 well not so great but had some gems. But now "upgrading" to a S7 edge and being faced with this tragedy? Oh man I hope this changes in the near future.
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Development will begin, it is still a new phone. The software on S7 is less intrusive but I fully understand you would like a customized device experience and being a flagship device you assumed this one will be well supported by the developers(which it will, just a matter of time).

S7 edge exynos has some kicking roms. Loving it
Sent from my Pebble Time

Neemac said:
I wouldn't go that far as saying the development has stopped. There are coming custom Rom. Tho, not as many as before, I'll agree with that.
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Not for the North American version with it's locked bootloader.

Is not been released more than a month. We already have root and a handful of Roms.
Not sure why you think development is dead. Just at the moment is not really required as the phones are smooth as it is.
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mahdibassam said:
Because 2016. Flagships dont really need any development now. The purpose of custom roms was better battery, faster speeds, less lag, etc. But today's flagships already have all of those things. There are no improvements you can make. I have stopped rooting/ROMing my phones since last year because i just dont feel the need anymore. You will probably get a few roms in the future anyway , but I dont think the community will be anywhere near as active as before in the development section.
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Seriously?
-Viper4Android
-Xposed (and therefore essential modules like Xprivacy, Xtouchwiz, MinMinGuard, YouTube AdAway and App Settings)
-Adblock (non-root ad blocking solutions are mediocre at best)
-AFWall+
-Titanium Backup
-Greenify (will work without root but hibernation of apps needs to be manual)
The list goes on. You can choose not to root, but you can't say improvements can't be made to stock by doing so. That will never be the case in my view.

mahdibassam said:
Because 2016. Flagships dont really need any development now. The purpose of custom roms was better battery, faster speeds, less lag, etc. But today's flagships already have all of those things. There are no improvements you can make. I have stopped rooting/ROMing my phones since last year because i just dont feel the need anymore. You will probably get a few roms in the future anyway , but I dont think the community will be anywhere near as active as before in the development section.
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Of course there are improvements to make. There always is. Stock is never heavily debloated or as efficient as custom, as stock should be over stable.. So customer's don't complain about problems.
If the battery and speed are good stock, you can just make it even better custom. Like change alarms and wakelocks on thing you personally don't need. Debloat things running in the background, hibernate them, set cpu work queues, change network when screen of and so on.

Beefheart said:
Seriously?
-Viper4Android
-Xposed (and therefore essential modules like Xprivacy, Xtouchwiz, MinMinGuard, YouTube AdAway and App Settings)
-Adblock (non-root ad blocking solutions are mediocre at best)
-AFWall+
-Titanium Backup
-Greenify (will work without root but hibernation of apps needs to be manual)
The list goes on. You can choose not to root, but you can't say improvements can't be made to stock by doing so. That will never be the case in my view.
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Faspaiso said:
Of course there are improvements to make. There always is. Stock is never heavily debloated or as efficient as custom, as stock should be over stable.. So customer's don't complain about problems.
If the battery and speed are good stock, you can just make it even better custom. Like change alarms and wakelocks on thing you personally don't need. Debloat things running in the background, hibernate them, set cpu work queues, change network when screen of and so on.
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I totally get what you saying guys, I am just giving my own opinion, as you are. Each to their own i guess. I just dont see the need to put myself through the hassle of root and recovery and the manually flashing every update through recovery, and then a clean install with every new base and etc. The phone is just good enough as it is out of the box, FOR ME. I would love to have Greenify again, but frankly the battery life is just really good and I dont feel the need to go through the trouble to get it , and I have never used Xposed anyway.
But all in all, what puts me off from going the custom rom way these days is 1) The phone is just perfect as it is (again, for me) 2) I cant be bothered to flash every update through recovery and etc and do a clean flash with every new base and all the other stuff that comes with custom roms
But hey, this is the beauty of android isnt it, it caters to everyone, including me and you

chieco said:
Good Hello Everyone,
so I just got my S7 edge today aaand the first thing I do after getting home is obviously visit the S7 edge section on xda! but oh boy... what's this what I'm seeing! or should I say not seeing? basically no roms and not a single custom kernel!!! I'm deceased:crying:.
WHY? WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? :crying:
Development on the S6 was simply great. Switching to a Note 5 well not so great but had some gems. But now "upgrading" to a S7 edge and being faced with this tragedy? Oh man I hope this changes in the near future.
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Because the stock firmware is good enough so no development is needed.
You already have great battery life, theme support, ad blocking support, many other customization options.

mahdibassam said:
I totally get what you saying guys, I am just giving my own opinion, as you are. Each to their own i guess. I just dont see the need to put myself through the hassle of root and recovery and the manually flashing every update through recovery, and then a clean install with every new base and etc. The phone is just good enough as it is out of the box, FOR ME. I would love to have Greenify again, but frankly the battery life is just really good and I dont feel the need to go through the trouble to get it , and I have never used Xposed anyway.
But all in all, what puts me off from going the custom rom way these days is 1) The phone is just perfect as it is (again, for me) 2) I cant be bothered to flash every update through recovery and etc and do a clean flash with every new base and all the other stuff that comes with custom roms
But hey, this is the beauty of android isnt it, it caters to everyone, including me and you
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That's great, and in a way I'm envious. But there are simply too many applications I can't do without that require root.
Cst79 said:
Because the stock firmware is good enough so no development is needed.
You already have great battery life, theme support, ad blocking support, many other customization options.
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Ad blocking on non-root is via VPN. It's ropey and unreliable at best. Certainly it doesn't hold a candle to what can be achieved with root and proper hosts editing. Also, Xprivacy for me is essential, I'd go so far as calling it my most important application. Combine it with a firewall like AFWall+ and, in terms of privacy, my phone is locked down. Non-root firewalls, like non-root ad blockers, work on VPN, and are again unreliable in comparison. Plus you can't protect against data leaks on boot. But I guess it comes down to what we want from our phones.

LOL. Does this question really need to be asked? If you look around in the forums you'll see that the dev community for this phone is almost non-existent because of its locked bootloader.

HesThatGuy said:
LOL. Does this question really need to be asked? If you look around in the forums you'll see that the dev community for this phone is almost non-existent because of its locked bootloader.
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"It" doesn't have a locked bootloader. The US Snapdragon variant does.

HesThatGuy said:
LOL. Does this question really need to be asked? If you look around in the forums you'll see that the dev community for this phone is almost non-existent because of its locked bootloader.
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Such confidence, 'LOL' ing people, yet you are wrong and spreading false information. The Exynos variant already has a few ROMS. The bootloader is unlocked. Only the Snapdragon is locked.
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