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More evidence of US Variants getting a S4 Krait.

http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_snapdragon_s4_confirmed_for_verizon_galaxy_s_iii-news-4244.php

SlimJ87D said:
http://www.gsmarena.com/dualcore_snapdragon_s4_confirmed_for_verizon_galaxy_s_iii-news-4244.php
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Att is getting the exynos quad-core version like Rogers.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.

This isn't a bad thing, but it is also underwhelming. Every high end phone released in the US markets has the same SoC. Software battles are not very interesting, at least to me. On ATT both of the high end Android phones are very similar in terms of hardware with the HTC One X arguably being better since it is already out and has a better screen. Not sure what samsung was thinking with putting out a phone with the same internals as a rival a couple months later.

ceo.mtcl said:
Att is getting the exynos quad-core version like Rogers.
Sent from my HTC One X on Leedroid's ROM v5.1.0.
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And who said that Rogers is getting an Exynoes version... the only evidence was a ad generated by google... unless you have another source.

SlimJ87D said:
And who said that Rogers is getting an Exynoes version... the only evidence was a ad generated by google... unless you have another source.
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Until something more concrete appears, I'm going with this from the article...
"Of course an ad banner is hardly conclusive"
http://www.androidcentral.com/ad-ba...y-s-iii-could-feature-new-exynos-chip-and-lte
From the New Orleans event. Note the use of the word "optimized."
“Samsung Mobile is planning a U.S. version of Galaxy S III, optimized for the fastest LTE and HSPA+ networks in the U.S., which will be available in the summer of 2012. Exact timing and retail channel availability is not being announced at this time. We believe the Galaxy S III is the most anticipated product in the 20-year history of Samsung Mobile; therefore, we will continue to share information as it becomes available.” – Samsung
This could play out two ways...
1) Samsung's developed a GSM LTE-capable version of the Exynos chip and it will be used everywhere it can be. In North America that would mean Rogers, AT&T, and Sprint. Since CDMA's so limited, the VZW SGS3 would likely use the S4 chip. T-Mobile would likely get S4 also because S4 supports AWS and when faced with the same choice in the SGS2 they went Qualcomm vs. developing their own AWS radio. If Samsung was going this route, there's no reason they wouldn't have said so at the UnBoxed event.
2) LTE and AWS SGS3's will all be S4. Either because Samsung didn't have time to integrate LTE, couldn't match the S4's fantastic battery life, or that it might actually be cheaper. Samsung builds great SoC's but they have no track record (yet) in radios. There were no repercussions (other than some customer disappointment) when Samsung went this route last time. Also, when they did, they waited until right up to launch to disclose that the U.S. market wasn't getting Exynos (except the non-LTE AT&T version).
I have no idea which way it'll go (and neither do any of you). I wouldn't bet odds in Vegas based on a misplaced banner ad.

If you think AT&T is going to fragment the sales/updates as far as one that is quad-core/hspa/3G and one that is Dual-Core/HSPA/LTE, you are mistaken. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be one model, one that is usable on the LTE network.

bbeelzebub said:
If you think AT&T is going to fragment the sales/updates as far as one that is quad-core/hspa/3G and one that is Dual-Core/HSPA/LTE, you are mistaken. Ain't. Gonna. Happen.
There will be one model, one that is usable on the LTE network.
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Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....

SlimJ87D said:
Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....
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That was last year. We're into the LTE (True 4G) era.
Regardless. I'll have fun watching some of you waiting on that Quad Core.

bbeelzebub said:
That was last year. We're into the LTE (True 4G) era.
Regardless. I'll have fun watching some of you waiting on that Quad Core.
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Again, no evidence whatsoever that you will be getting a Exynos + 4G LTE radio with Verizon.

SlimJ87D said:
Yeah sure. Too bad that's not true with the SGS2 and the SGS2 Skyrocket....
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That U.S. introduction of the SGS2 was one of the strangest launches ever. First, it took Samsung and the U.S. carriers six months after the UK launch to bring it to the U.S. Then all but the AT&T version were totally different phones based on the Asian Celox and SGS2's in name only. If you remember the launch event, the T-Mobile version was locked in a Plexiglas box and not allowed to be touched. VZW skipped the SGS2 entirely. On top of that, two weeks after it launched, AT&T announced the SkyRocket which was a Celox variant and closer to the other U.S. carrier versions. Samsung’s in a much more powerful position than they were last go round so hopefully the phones will be less molested and the introduction better synchronized.
When the OG SGS2 launched on AT&T they hadn't even lit up their first LTE city. It would be strange for them to launch another high-end HSPA+ phone with as fast as they are growing (and pushing) their LTE network. But, based on the SGS2 launch, anything's possible.

BarryH_GEG said:
That U.S. introduction of the SGS2 was one of the strangest launches ever. First, it took Samsung and the U.S. carriers six months after the UK launch to bring it to the U.S. Then all but the AT&T version were totally different phones based on the Asian Celox and SGS2's in name only. If you remember the launch event, the T-Mobile version was locked in a Plexiglas box and not allowed to be touched. VZW skipped the SGS2 entirely. On top of that, two weeks after it launched, AT&T announced the SkyRocket which was a Celox variant and closer to the other U.S. carrier versions. Samsung’s in a much more powerful position than they were last go round so hopefully the phones will be less molested and the introduction better synchronized.
When the OG SGS2 launched on AT&T they hadn't even lit up their first LTE city. It would be strange for them to launch another high-end HSPA+ phone with as fast as they are growing (and pushing) their LTE network. But, based on the SGS2 launch, anything's possible.
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I think the transition to LTE was difficult for Samsung and satisfying their customers. Then having to design multiple variants on top of that some with the S3 and LTE radio and some without it.
It takes hours and hours of meetings, designing, quality control, etc. I could already predict all the trouble that all parties had to go through, Samsung, Sprint, T-Mobile etc. If it wasn't for our wide population, I wouldn't be surprised if Samsung said "the hell with the US" and just stuck with releasing one type, the international version for everyone else.

SlimJ87D said:
Again, no evidence whatsoever that you will be getting a Exynos + 4G LTE radio with Verizon.
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I never claimed otherwise.
I think there is sufficient proof out that Verizon will be getting a Qualcomm S4, just like Sprint... just like AT&T..... just like T-Mobile.

bbeelzebub said:
I think there is sufficient proof out that Verizon will be getting a Qualcomm S4
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Almost certain.
just like Sprint...
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Likely as their CDMA/LTE like VZW.
just like AT&T.....
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Competely unknown.
just like T-Mobile.
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Completely unknown but AWS is easier on S4.

I want a Korean S3 with 2GB RAM and quadcore!!

Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??

setspeed said:
Indulge me.
The Korean SGS3 comes with 2GB RAM and the quadcore Exynos 4412 chip:
http://phandroid.com/2012/06/08/sk-telecoms-galaxy-s-iii-merges-quad-core-cpu-and-2gb-ram/
South Korea uses 2100Mhz HSPA band - as does the UK where I live.
http://www.worldtimezone.com/gsm.html
What's stopping me from (somehow) buying a Korean one and importing it for use here in the UK?
Also, any ideas how I would even go about buying something from Korea??
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Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.

Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?

setspeed said:
Can't you just buy off-contract sim-free handsets, like you could here in the UK? Not attached/locked to a network?
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His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
Sent from Rooted debloated stock Galaxy S3 OG I9300

ceo.mtcl said:
His point is quad core and two gb ram. I understand his itch. Only that phone can scratch it.
Sent from Rooted debloated stock Galaxy S3 OG I9300
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For now lol

doeboy711 said:
For now lol
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The next Nexus better have a quad with 2gb of ram!!!

djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Quite a lot of the new smartphones in Korea come with usim cards..
Don't ask me the finer details.

There are 3 major carriers in SK, two of them operate WCDMA networks.

I would not go for this phone. Like somebody else said, bad developer support.

ceo.mtcl said:
Don't go for it. Their will be a lot of issues with it. Also very bad developer support, worse than American version.
There may be other hardware compatibility issues with your network.
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Are saying that American version is going to have bad development support, when it's most likely going to be better.
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I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
Sent from my GT-I9300 using XDA

zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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check to make sure your APN is set to phone

zion4887 said:
I got an international one today and it's on at&t in the states. It's not running at hspa+ speeds though
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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You must not be having god connection then.
Here are my hspa speeds
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Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
If I have assisted you, please press Thanks button.

ok so i want the international version, my carrier (h2o wireless) runs on att but they dont have 4g only 3g... my question is , would it work on my carrier?

Haha!
ronj1986 said:
Why are you using an app to display battery life. You know the S3 has that built into stock now right?
If I have assisted you, please press Thanks button.
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You mean that ugly stock battery percentage that appears next to the battery icon and takes up additional space? If you have noticed, I do not have any app but actually a circles mod that can display battery percentage within the battery icon.

For the dev support I disagree, it seems they will get the same hardware as the int version only more ram and LTE support so int roms shouln'd be hard to port, am I wrong?

djkinetic said:
Willing to bet, the Korean version won't use a Micro-Sim that GSM carriers use, as they're network SK Telecom if i recall does not require the use of sim cards. Also chances are the Korean version will be locked to region specific carriers there.
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Speaking form experience the SIM card issue is no longer a problem, Korean phones now use SIM cards, all carriers here ( SK, KT, LG all use SIM cards)
All Android phones here as of today (SGS3 is still unknown) are sold carrier unlocked, I've used my Korean issue GalaxyS (m110s) in various countries with no issue (India/China/UK)
Problem with the Korean version is that' you'll lose FM functionality and gain a useless DMB (TV) chip instead, also it's dimensions are ever slightly larger, so getting nice cases might be slightly harder, or you'll have to order from Korea, not impossible though.
Phones can be bought off the shelf here, they're just more expensive than in Europe/US

I'm pretty sure the american version dev support will be just as good as the international.

Which model is preferable to take overseas?

I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?

The micro sim port is for Verizon lte. Tmobiles is also a micro sim, and I think you still have to be connected to Tmobiles network to use wifi calling. Don't know about att.
t-mobile sgs3 stock rom/rooted

PhrostB said:
I noticed the Verizon S3 has a mini-SIM port.. but why? I thought Verizon phones don't have SIM cards at all?
Also, is it true that the AT&T model doesn't have a SIM card port at all? How is it activated then?
Also, the T-mobile model apparently has calling-over-WiFi (uma). Does that only work on t-mobile's network or will it work overseas too?
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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.

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AT&T version does have a mini sim slot right beside the SD Card. It's a spring loaded slot.
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So which model is this?
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I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.

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The one on the left is probably SPRINT, as they've been hard-embedding the LTE SIM card into the device to bastardize it (they're doing it with all phones).
The right is probably AT&T/TMO.
ExodusC said:
I believe that Verizon has stated that they will enable global roaming on the Galaxy S3 in the future, but I'm not sure on that.
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Well, the internal chipset has GSM support. You wouldn't be able to change the SIM card, I believe. You'd be stuck on VZW's expensive international roaming plans.
But for global roaming it'd only support 800 Mhz and 1900 Mhz bands, unless Verizon had them add the extra hardware.

The AT&T version uses the same frequencies as the international version.
Side by side comparison i747 and i9300

I travel quite a bit outside of the US for work, and for international travel, your best bet is the ATT version since GSM will give you the most options outside of the North America. As mentioned, Verizon may be offering some limited compatibility, but you will be stuck to their plan, whereas the ATT version (esp if unlocked) will allow you to swap chips in other countries as desired.
I say ATT because band-wise it has the most international compatible ones, and the 2100 band will help in regions like Japan and Korea that don't use standard GSM.
TMo is probably the second choice, but because they use bands like 1700 that no one else really uses, you're still better off with ATT.
The CDMA versions would be the last ones (Verizon and Sprint) since their roaming will be limited.
This is assuming you are picking from the US versions - for Canadian models, just find the carrier that matches ATT (I believe Rogers is the closest).

I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.

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I'm starting to think I should just get the international version.
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Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.

gingson said:
Is your home base in the US? Are you on an LTE network? Not sure if international version works with LTE. One reason why we have a different processor in our US phones because of LTE. A South Korean model (international version) will have LTE support but I don't know if its available.
GSM is your best bet if you live in the US. ATT or TMo. Verizon's international roaming is quite expensive.
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I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.

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I'm usually in Israel.. specifically in an army base in the desert.
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I would go with the at&t one if you were to choose a us version. Personally if I had to pick I would just go with the international version if that where the case. I wanna see what the quadcore can do in a phone and personally I'm fine running hspa. I currently have no LTE were I'm at anyway. I have to drive like an hour to Baton Rouge for a taste lol.

By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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By the way.... Tmobile wifi calling works anywhere there is wifi..
If you are overseas and you make a phone call back to the usa using wifi calling... Its free.. Its considered a usa to usa call....
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Was just about to say this. I think you can also add an international long distance plan for a small fee (that way you can also call israeli numbers), which would make the phone work well anywhere you have wifi, then just get a prepaid sim to use while on the go. Just an idea tho.

I was only considering buying the phone here in the states and using it back home in israel with my regular carrier (Cellcom). Will the t-mobile S3 support calling-over-wifi even if I'm not on t-mobile's network?

Unlocked HTC 10 on Verizon?

According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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I'm wondering the same thing.
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According to the HTC website the HTC 10 has all the bands necessary for Verizon including CDMA. Does anyone know if it will work on Verizon?
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I suspect it will indeed work on VZW, all 3 models have the same modelid (ATT, TMO, VZW)...
Jeff Gordon pretty much confirmed it...https://twitter.com/urbanstrata/status/719949958166786048?s=15

I see it as the same situation as the 6P. Verizon didnt "officially certify" it for their network, but since it had the correct bands it worked with an already activated sim card.
I preordered an unlocked HTC 10 and plan on popping in my 6p VZW sim card.
Now does it matter that HTC site lists the 850 frequency (which verizon uses for their 3g) under 2G/2.5G - GSM/GPRS/EDGE?

I am wondering the same my friend..it will be a must buy it so and I can use it on any carrier at anytime! It's probably too good to be true though all of ever heard is how Verizon is very strict on what phones they will let on their network ? If I have to get the Verizon version, then I will have to wait on bootloader unlock before purchase Crossing fingers
MoNsTeReNeRgY22, Post back once you get the phone and pop in your sim.... The sim from my iPhone 6Plus should work to I would guess?

Verizon is less strict than you think. They're picky about the phones they certify and sell, but if a phone has the right radios, you can usually get it to work on V by just inserting a pre-activated SIM.
I've heard a rumor that Verizon will be getting an exclusive launch ahead of the US competition with this phone. It'd be nice if the unlocked model is the same. Perhaps they'll put some software locking that we can easily circumnavigate? Being able to travel with my M8 and pop in a local GSM SIM has been a huge benefit.

So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
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Not good.

Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed

awareunlikeu said:
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Verizon did just implement that new upgrade fee if you buy from them. Sneaky, sneaky.

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
So it's not looking good. Android Police in their quick write up tried a already activated VZW sim and it was a no go.
http://imgur.com/EHIZh9f
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I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.

awareunlikeu said:
Just got a twitter response from Mo Versi who works at HTC, and I quote "NO, You will have to purchase directly from Verizon or Sprint. Thanks" Not sure if this is the be all end all, but it doesn't help!? Perhaps Verizon is telling them to say this so we buy from carrier?? Or maybe we are just screwed
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Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
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I've experienced this on cracking the Chinanet LTE of Verizon M9. The LTE signal just show up and disappeared in a moment.
But at last I solved it by adding MCC in EFS explore.
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Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Since they are releasing an actual Verizon variant, I dont see you getting any other answer out of him than that.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by adding MCC in EFS explore?
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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.

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Yeah I suspect so, If it does indeed work on Verizon, Im sure Verizon dosent want them advertising it. My only fear is when I receive it, it does work, but if I am out of ranfe for LTE and it has to drop down to 3G, will it work.. I guess we shall see!? I did see that HTC has a 14 day return policy. If I cant get it to work in the 14 days, then I will just wait for a bootloader unlock for the Verizon model. Anyone thats up to date and knows the 3G and LTE bads real well? Does this unlocked edition have all the necessary bands for both 3G and LTE, on VZW? I know a bit, but dont know them all.
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Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Yup agreed and I think its actually a 30 day return policy. See HTC.com America store by Digital River refund policy
And according to Wireless Carrier Cheat Sheet, the unlocked version supports Verizon CDMA ( CDMA: 800/1900 with EVDO Rev A). I screenshotted the supported bands of the unlocked HTC 10, the VZW HTC M9 and and VZW LG G5. All support the same bands (CDMA included). I circled the same CDMA bands for reference (Ignore my crude paint skills).
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A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?

awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?

MoNsTeReNeRgY22 said:
Even if there are separate models, does it matter since the tech specs for the unlocked variant list all the bands we need anyways?
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Yeah thats the way it certainly seems. Someone pointed out though that it could be showing the bands for both models as a whole.... It does not sound convincing, but something to think about.

awareunlikeu said:
A guy linked this to me: http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_10_goes_by_fcc_ahead_of_announcement-news-17569.php
It shows 2 separate models 2PS6200 and 2PS6500
Hopefully this is not one of them being GSM, and the other being the CDMA model?
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2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...

OMJ said:
2PS620000 is for Europe, that article may be wrong about it hitting the FCC...doesn't make sense
2PS650000 is for US GSM (ATT & TMO) & VZW
Sprint will have a different modelid...
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TASTY!

Read the whole thread and it looks like the unlocked HTC 10 might work on Verizon. Great news. I DON'T WANT VERIZON BRANDED DEVICE EVER AGAIN. I looked at the specs on the website and saw LTE bands 3,4,13 which is what Verizon uses AFAIK. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
Whoever ordered the device please update us as soon as you get your device.
Thank you
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The LG V20 H990 is cheaper than other models. Why?

Looking at pricing on ebay and other online retailers, the dual sim LG V20 H990DS is selling at a lower price than the single sim variants.
Aside from being dual sim, is there any other difference between the H990DS and other variants?
Is there any reason not to buy the H990DS?

Byte_76 said:
Looking at pricing on ebay and other online retailers, the dual sim LG V20 H990DS is selling at a lower price than the single sim variants.
Aside from being dual sim, is there any other difference between the H990DS and other variants?
Is there any reason not to buy the H990DS?
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Well, you could be like the other 6-10 Americans on this board with a single sim T-mobile variant which (correct me if wrong) has its bootloader unlocked and root available. The LG dev community seems (to me) uninspired and, for lack of a better word, a bit too lazy to explore the models (like H990DS) which are used more commonly throughout the global market.
To answer your question, WHY NOT buy it:
- There's no root for H990DS
- Dev community for LG "deosn't really exist"
- Bootloader isn't and will probably never be, unlocked
Other differences? Compare on GSMarena. Keep in mind they aren't always accurate specs.
RoOSTA

additionally , you dont get any warranty on those models since they are shipped from Korea. So that makes it cheaper as well because they are selling phones without warranty.
FYI: I bought this model for $630 from amazon and it shipped from Korea and it came with headphones in box!

adit07 said:
additionally , you dont get any warranty on those models since they are shipped from Korea. So that makes it cheaper as well because they are selling phones without warranty.
FYI: I bought this model for $630 from amazon and it shipped from Korea and it came with headphones in box!
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Is the H990DS one of the B&O tuned variants with the B&O logo on the back or is it an LG tuned variant?
Did you receive B&O H3 headphones or just a normal set of LG headphones?
I would like to be able to unlock the bootloader but I can live without it. Having dual sim and lower price are higher priority for me as long as there are no other differences.
I'd hate to find out that my phone is missing the quad DAC or some other imporant features that make the LG v20 special and which are included with the single sim models.

Byte_76 said:
Is the H990DS one of the B&O tuned variants with the B&O logo on the back or is it an LG tuned variant?
Did you receive B&O H3 headphones or just a normal set of LG headphones?
I would like to be able to unlock the bootloader but I can live without it. Having dual sim and lower price are higher priority for me as long as there are no other differences.
I'd hate to find out that my phone is missing the quad DAC or some other imporant features that make the LG v20 special and which are included with the single sim models.
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This model is tuned by B&O and has logo at the back. Mine came with B&O headphones.
see this video:
This is the same version I have
Another thing to note is that the bands on this version are different to some US variants. For example, I am on tmobile and this model has mostly all bands 2,4,12 (but not the newer 66) and it is missing some bands for AT&T. Also, this model is gsm only

I too can live without the bootloader, but root is critical. Checkout the other threads on page 1 or 2 in this board or the others, I've created a bounty thread to see if any dev will take the bat and actually develop something. Certainly worth contributing to and paying for if its released for this mode, H990DS
RoOSTA

GSM and LTE
Model H990ds
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Any updates on the dual sim pros and cons? Ty

adit07 said:
This model is tuned by B&O and has logo at the back. Mine came with B&O headphones.
see this video:
This is the same version I have
Another thing to note is that the bands on this version are different to some US variants. For example, I am on tmobile and this model has mostly all bands 2,4,12 (but not the newer 66) and it is missing some bands for AT&T. Also, this model is gsm only
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Are the missing att bands problematic for using Cricket now or in the near future? Will the 990ds allow WiFi calling on Cricket?
Thanks!

affald said:
Are the missing att bands problematic for using Cricket now or in the near future? Will the 990ds allow WiFi calling on Cricket?
Thanks!
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There is no wifi calling in this model. Cricket is cdma network so I am not sure this model will work on it