Converting Flo to Deb - parts needed? Possible? - Nexus 7 (2013) General

So, my Nexus 7 has taken some damage, so I need to replace the backplate and speakers. It got me thinking if it would be possible to convert a Flo to a Deb. I know some parts in certain Nexus models were different, for example, a Maguro could never be made into a Toro, because of extreme differences between the two, but I was wondering if, given the right parts, I could, for a reasonable price, convert my Flo. I know the backplate needs to be different, to accommodate the SIM card slot, but I'm not sure which board contains the cellular radio and SIM card slot, and if they are interchangeable. Or how readily available these parts are. Would it be reasonable to convert my tablet, and can anyone give any advice in the matter? I honestly haven't had the opportunity to take apart the cellular model, so I don't know what the hardware differences are.
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bluesy_92 said:
So, my Nexus 7 has taken some damage, so I need to replace the backplate and speakers. It got me thinking if it would be possible to convert a Flo to a Deb. I know some parts in certain Nexus models were different, for example, a Maguro could never be made into a Toro, because of extreme differences between the two, but I was wondering if, given the right parts, I could, for a reasonable price, convert my Flo. I know the backplate needs to be different, to accommodate the SIM card slot, but I'm not sure which board contains the cellular radio and SIM card slot, and if they are interchangeable. Or how readily available these parts are. Would it be reasonable to convert my tablet, and can anyone give any advice in the matter? I honestly haven't had the opportunity to take apart the cellular model, so I don't know what the hardware differences are.
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Without looking at a teardown, the Main Board would have to be changed out. That would cost you more than just repairing your current one and selling it and using the funds to upgrade. But if you did want to attempt it, You'd need the Back Cover, Sim Tray and Main board at the LEAST.
Most everything should be the same (Speakers, Screen, buttons)
EDIT: So after looking, it seems the lower board (The one with the speakers), The Frame, the backplate and Sim Tray would be needed in theory. Also Assuming you were to get those items there might be a check on the main (top) board from the lower board to see if they are correctly paired (Maybe they use the same 32GB main board).
Either way, cheaper to fix what you have, sell it and then buy what you want.

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Looking for advice on buying an Universal

I am looking to buy a Universal and am upgrading from a Qtek 9100. My question is they go by several names I want to make sure that I don't buy an older model with less specs.
Are they all going to have the same specs across the board but with different software?
Pretty much, yeah. They come in different colours for the external plastic and aluminum plate, different provider logos, and the IE and email softkeys on the keyboard sometimes change logos printed on them, but other than that, they're identical hardwarewise. Oh, and foreign models (like the germans) sometimes have non-qwerty keyboard layouts.
quick summary and outline on WIKI
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Universal_Versions
Thanks,
My biggest fear was to buy one and find out it was a "cheaper version" of the universal with a slower processor or something like it.
I ordered the o2 XDA Exec and should have it in a few days, I can't wait!

Replacement Parts - Rigid Flex Board

I need to replace my Rigid Flex Board in my HD2 due to a mishap and was wondering if there is a difference between the boards in the European and the T-Mobile versions of the phone. I need one for my T-Mobile HD2 and I dont see them being sold, all I see is just one version of the thing so I'm assuming they're all the same, but I just wanted to be on the safe side.
Psyrecx said:
I need to replace my Rigid Flex Board in my HD2 due to a mishap and was wondering if there is a difference between the boards in the European and the T-Mobile versions of the phone. I need one for my T-Mobile HD2 and I dont see them being sold, all I see is just one version of the thing so I'm assuming they're all the same, but I just wanted to be on the safe side.
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I too am curious, if anyone can chime in on this.
Turns out they are pretty much identical on every version of the HD2 aside from the model numbers on the flex board. So I'm going to just order one and see how it goes. I will update the forums on my progress.

mainboard: "international" put => TMOUS ??

Simple question please: can a mainboard from "international" (or "european") type of HD2 be put into TMOUS (T-Moble US) HD2? (as a replacement, the original MB seems to have overheat hangups issue - but its much easier and cheaper to buy "international" version)
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Simple question please: can a mainboard from "international" (or "european") type of HD2 be put into TMOUS (T-Moble US) HD2? (as a replacement, the original MB seems to have overheat hangups issue - but its much easier and cheaper to buy "international" version)
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Theoretically, it is possible (some did it already), but don't expect to fit perfectly!
bib*oops said:
Theoretically, it is possible (some did it already), but don't expect to fit perfectly!
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How to understand this "imperfection"?
People say, the screen might be of a different kind (solderred vs. pinned). Is it true?
ictimai said:
How to understand this "imperfection"?
People say, the screen might be of a different kind (solderred vs. pinned). Is it true?
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It doesn't matter the screen(as long as you don't replace digitizer, which are 2 versions:soldered or with insert pin!) in order to replace motherboard!
So, the does the digitizer' kind be matched with the mainboard or is it pin-inserted or soldered to a screen (and screen to a mainboard)?
Digi to LCD & as all LCD to mainboard ribbons are same of no issue.
Main issue of International mainboard in TMOUS is board is shorter & micro usb & headphone jack fall short in the TMOUS housing ...
Get a TMOUS board as waste of effort with an international board ...
Mister B said:
Main issue of International mainboard in TMOUS is board is shorter & micro usb & headphone jack fall short in the TMOUS housing ...
Get a TMOUS board as waste of effort with an international board ...
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Thank you! However may I ask you yet again about these micro usb & headphone jack which fall short - would they appear as inaccessible at all from outside of housing?
If not please, suggest where could I buy tmous mainboard from, as here in Europe there are just 'international' versions present on all auction sites...
To make micro usb & headset jack fit you need to modify connector plug moldings by cutting them back so plugs will go in further without restriction.
I would make the effort to find a good TMOUS board, must be a few TMOUS devices with dead or cracked digi for spares.
Put in a wanted request here on xda.
Other option is go to a international version housing to match board.
Would only buy auction site if seller has 100% feedback & a good reason for have a spare board as too easy for people to lie & sell faulty parts on eBay & reading a few threads on here & my personal inbox messages confirms the auction issues ...
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Other option is go to a international version housing to match board.
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I've got an offer to replace international MB for 100$ (with already MB provied). The guy guarantees it fits perfectly to the TMOUS phone, and he has small repair shop in my town (so he's fully accountable) and swears he's got fixed many such devices already. So how is it possible compared to your explanation? (Is he going to replace housing too maybe?)
Plz, tell me which part of an international case should be placed together with MB? It is definitelly easier and cheaper to buy such a set (euMB+case) than TMoUS mainbard itself...
Presumably it is not necessary to change the whole housing, is it?
rear cover & probably centre chassis (check chassis part supplies & see if parts numbered different).
Can't really see a small shop having dealt with that many TMOUS models for international board swap.
It can & does work but without the ports altered or case changed it not the best.
Personally I would aim at getting an international model with broken or dead digi & swap your led/digi to it & job done plus you got a lot of parts spare or for sale to recoup maybe 50% of the outlay.
Mister B said:
Personally I would aim at getting an international model with broken or dead digi & swap your led/digi to it & job done plus you got a lot of parts spare or for sale to recoup maybe 50% of the outlay.
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Just have bought international MB (+ central chasis) from Polish auction site for as much as 38$ (with guarantee of return if not helped) - haven't pondered too much as it seems great bargain. However now I see this bargain rather akward to consummate :/ Please, give me some advice what to do with the whole set: TMoUS phone with faulty MB + international MB with central chasis? Would you advise to return this MB to the seller?
Get an international back cover & you should be good to go.
BTW, what about firmware/ROM? Where does it sit? In a chip on MB? Or maybe the flash memory module stays somewhere else so the MB change will leave it unaffected...
So, is it necessary to flash the international version of ROM before first run after the MB change? There are so many warnings what distaster would happen if someone confused ROM versions (international vs. US)...
Of course there are ROMs good for both versions, e.g. Paranoid, but presently I've got TMOUS WM 6.5.5 flashed (to accurately test hardware under 'model' sw conditions)
All on mainboard
So, I have replaced the MB, the international version put into TMoUS without any other parts replacements! The TMoUS housing indeed is slighty longer but just by so minute difference (half of millimeter) it poses no problem at all, and both plugs (USB & jack) fit firmly! (The only glitch was I had to trimm millimeter of plastics inside as USB connector didn't fit in, but it was so trifle as probabely even not worth to mention...)
So, WHAT A DIFFERENCE now! That TMoUS MB was terribly thermally worn off!
Please, give some suggestion what to do now - with e.g. that faulty TMoUS MB? To throw away or is it still possible to recover anything valuable from it?
Please, tell me also if it is worth to protect somehow the "new" MB to prevent it from this thermal tearing off (and how to make it)?

Nexus 7 Wifi motherboard on a Nexus 7 3G chassis

Hello,
I have recently bricked my nexus 7 3G trying to update to 4.3. It is in APX mode with no easy solution.
I was thinking about buying in ebay a nexus 7 wifi 16GB motherboard. The idea is to change the nexus 7 3G motherboard for the this one.
I have doubts if the wifi motherboard will fit in the chassis and if all the rest components are the same so all wires and connections and battery will work.
Does anyone have any advice?
Thanks!
My advice is to add those 30$ for the 3G version, if you don't know exactly what you're doing, you might screw them up both while swapping motherboards. Also, isn't ROM (or wherever system is) memory soldered onto the motherboard?
Right now first gen N7s are really cheap because everyone is selling them, I'm sure someone on XDA has one to sell, and you can lookup devices whole history based on users posts.
I don't really understand what exactly is you're trying to achieve by swapping MoBos? Have you done this before?
also have you tried this? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41860081&postcount=8 you probably have, but still.
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I had to re-read you post a couple of times to understand exactly what you're after, and here are my thoughts:
1) why buy wifi MoBo, if you can get 3G MoBo? It would make the whole process much simpler.
2) get a cracked screen 3G N7 on ebay, take it's MoBo and put it in you current N7. Throw away your current MoBo.
3) buy a fully working used N7 off ebay (or swappa). Sell your N7 for someone with cracked screen.
4) buy cracked screen N7, replace screen with your current one, sell it, add 100$ and buy new 2nd gen N7
if you do swap mobos, this might come in handy:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+7+Teardown/9623/1
good luck!
I want a wifi Mono because it is cheaper. In a quick search in ebay you can find 16gb Mono for around 30$ or less and 3 MoBos are less common and much more expensive, around 130$
Personally 3 is not a must for me now. When I bought the no this was the only model and I didn't care to pay those extra bucks.
But according to how I use the tablet (mostly reading and video at home) I know 16gb with no 3h is ok.
I have the skills to change the mobo so that won't be a problem at all.
What I want to know is that a wifi MoBo would work in 3 chassis.
Thanks
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It seems like the 3g and WiFi have different mobos, it may not fit, screw holes are most likely different.
Beamed from my Maguro
Mach3.2 said:
It seems like the 3g and WiFi have different mobos, it may not fit, screw holes are most likely different.
Beamed from my Maguro
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Hi Mach... thanks for answering.
That´s just my fear. But in ebay there some motherboards with the whole chasis. For example, take a look at these two 16GB and this 32GB 3G. The frame are pretty similar. I have compared them from the photos and it looks the screw holes and connectors for battery, screen, speakers blah blah, are in the same location.
And as you can see, the price is totally different!
I wanted to know if there is someone with some experience could know that for sure.
Thanks!
Can I replace tow nexus 7 ( 2012 3g 32gb ) mainboard ?
Nexus A broken tuche
Nexus B in apx only

Motherboard question - Help appreciated

Hey guys,
My Nexus 6p no longer receives signal, which is caused by a faulty soldered chip on the motherboard. All the service shops I visited can't fix it, they recommended buying a new motherboard instead. My Nexus 6p is the H1512 (International) model. The question is:
Can I put the motherboard from H1511(NA) to the H1512(International) mode and will it work? Broken USA models are selling cheap and I will pretty much try that, if anyone can give me a hint at the possibility of it working out.
Thank you
Graphics card guys having issues with solder have put their cards in oven at 250 for some length of time (I don't remember) to fix the solder to make a dead card work again.
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Dawnut said:
Hey guys,
My Nexus 6p no longer receives signal, which is caused by a faulty soldered chip on the motherboard. All the service shops I visited can't fix it, they recommended buying a new motherboard instead. My Nexus 6p is the H1512 (International) model. The question is: Can I put the motherboard from H1511(NA) to the H1512(International) mode and will it work? Broken USA models are selling cheap and I will pretty much try that, if anyone can give me a hint at the possibility of it working out.
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Sorry to say but I can't see how this could possibly be economical or worth the effort. No reason it would not mechanically connect and function but the question is really: will the NA model work well in your location? A quick google of the bands in Bulgaria vs USA says no. No GSM overlap, No 4G LTE overlap and only one UTMS band on 3G (UTMS 2100). Another risk you take is the MB is already toast on the phone you buy (and the reason it was sold for parts). You really need to find a INTL MB for it to work in your country.
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Graphics card guys having issues with solder have put their cards in oven at 250 for some length of time (I don't remember) to fix the solder to make a dead card work again.
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