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A Plea For Sanity: Samsung ICS Roms

I'd like to begin this rant with a disclaimer.
I am not an Android developer, or a Linux enthusiast, or an expert of any kind. All I am is a keen Android user (Since the HTC Desire) who loves customising my phone.
I am EXTREMELY grateful for all the hard work of the people who know more than I do (Developers, Rom chefs, etc) and I mean them no offense.
They are the ones who make buying an Android phone worthwhile, and this community relies on them.
Now, here it is: Why, Why, Why, can't we have a custom rom with the stock Samsung look?
There are some excellent custom roms out there, offering reduced size, performance improvements, improved customisation ability: The likes of RocketRom, MidTeam, Criskelo, and so on.
But every single one of them has a mismatched, ugly, patchwork of a theme, with elements of AOSP ICS, Galaxy S3, and god knows what else.
Many of them slap a black and blue status bar ontop of the Samsung framework, which clashes and looks horrible.
MidTeam used to have a zip file to restore the stock theme, which was great, (Thanks Maxicet!) but this has been dropped from the current version.
Please, I beg you, developers:
Please give us an option to keep the stock Samsung look on our ICS roms.
Or if you are going to do a theme for your rom, at least make it consistent, like the Galaxy SIII look.
Leave the theming to the people that know aesthetics, and keep doing what you do best: Making great Android roms.
Thankyou very much

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A stock custom rom would be great! Some ROMs have those elements that I really don't like (for example an ugly statusbar).
But wrong section dude
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Army92 said:
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A stock custom rom would be great! Some ROMs have those elements that I really don't like (for example an ugly statusbar).
But wrong section dude
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Ah yes, I just realised this should probably be in the 'General' Section.
Sorry, Mods

1) wrong section mate.
2) there is AlBa ROM which is stock look and feeling.
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I think this is the right place for that discussion! I need too custom rom without theme modification! Except ugly looking theme, this modifications come with many problems with some programs, since they change core things in the operation system!

Hi,
I've got rooted lpy ROM with 15 toggle status bar, s3 touchwiz 5*5, Franco r6 overclocked with tegrak and it's brilliant
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Denkov said:
I think this is the right place for that discussion! I need too custom rom without theme modification! Except ugly looking theme, this modifications come with many problems with some programs, since they change core things in the operation system!
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Once again....
AlBa ROM:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1579301
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eliashadow said:
1) wrong section mate.
2) there is AlBa ROM which is stock look and feeling.
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Thanks, I'll give Alba a try

chongo_au said:
Thanks, I'll give Alba a try
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Definitively Alba ROM is what you need!

Stock samsung UI is ****, but I also hate clock on the center, like on Criskelo ICS ROM. I prefer stock android style UI. This option must be at all ROMs, and official stock too.

place a request for checkrom developer

Agreed, we need good look custome Rom.

anonymous572 said:
Stock samsung UI is ****, but I also hate clock on the center, like on Criskelo ICS ROM. I prefer stock android style UI. This option must be at all ROMs, and official stock too.
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there is StockLook Theme for Rocket ROM also....just the bettery icon is customized and of course the 15 toggle (but also in Stocklook)....and:
with really MINOR knowledge everyone can build a complete stocklook with NO theming modifications at all!!!!!!!! If you are not able to do yourself, start a request in theming section - this is 5 minute work to do complete stocklook

if i might just make a quick statement,
the rom by the devs were designed to the way they want it. not to how the public wants it. it was made specifically for themselves for their own usage but were kind enough to share their work for us here on xda.
for us to use.
u can put in some requests on how the theming or looks should be done, and it would be entirely up to them if they want to attend to those requests or not.
i'm no developer and hence i cant complain what i didnt pay for but instead got it for free.
they could've easily exercise the option of "if u dun like it, dun use it".

Cassies xlr rom is stock look
But in all fairness if you dont see summin you like.
Spend 5 hours reading on google and build your own. As eyebee said its not that hard to do and very satisyfying
I may be a spanner but your all nuts

thering1975 said:
Cassies xlr rom is stock look
But in all fairness if you dont see summin you like.
Spend 5 hours reading on google and build your own. As eyebee said its not that hard to do and very satisyfying
I may be a spanner but your all nuts
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some people open threads instead of at least looking inside the ROM descriptions (or pics inside!!!)....or they could kindly ask inside the ROM threads for wanting complete stocklook....but hey, why? It is more easy to start demanding before reading...

sharkteef said:
the rom by the devs were designed to the way they want it. not to how the public wants it.
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I don't agree with you. This is manufactors, who don't care about customers and their opinion. ROM developers making ROMs first of all for us, not for money. We can donate them if we like their work and can ask to add/change something in the ROM. Too bad we can't do the same for manufactors.

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I don't agree with you. This is manufactors, who don't care about customers and their opinion. ROM developers making ROMs first of all for us, not for money. We can donate them if we like their work and can ask to add/change something in the ROM. Too bad we can't do the same for manufactors.
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Rom cooks make the ROMs for themselves (at least me and most of the other ones i know)...but they like to share their work and of course you are welcome to ask for additional features inside the threads - and not open an extra one.....

ya bro the keyword here is donate. not sell.
if the rom devs were like manufacturers, they'd sell it to u for a fee. but in this case, the rom devs willingly share their hardwork to you without asking for a single cent. the donation part is totally optional.
there is no legal contract binding here. and i will say it again, rom devs do not make roms for us. they make it for themselves but are very much willing to share it with us.

This thread is totally out of place and mind. Reported.

[Q] Best Sense Rom and Best ICS Rom

ive been trying roms here and there but cant find the perfect one, but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS rom since im torn between the two. i personally likes sense when i had a MT4G and i like how the layout of ICS is. so opinions every one?

MrKickstand said:
ive been trying roms here and there but cant find the perfect one, but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS rom since im torn between the two. i personally likes sense when i had a MT4G and i like how the layout of ICS is. so opinions every one?
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There is no 'best ROM'. You'll have to try them out and find one for yourself. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another. Also, if you're going to respond to this directly come up with something better than 'oh I just want opinions' because all you have to do to find that is to look in the ROM thread at some of the posts and to look at the viewcount + post count of each ROM.

Try NexusHD2 CM9 HWA by TyTung
I don't think there is an ICS ROM with Sense. Sbryan 1124 has an alpha version of the 4.0.3 Sense 4 ROM from the One V but it's not fit for daily use. Try the NexusHD2 CM9 HWA by TyTung. It's vanilla ICS but it has very few issues

Nigeldg said:
There is no 'best ROM'. You'll have to try them out and find one for yourself. What works for one person won't necessarily work for another. Also, if you're going to respond to this directly come up with something better than 'oh I just want opinions' because all you have to do to find that is to look in the ROM thread at some of the posts and to look at the viewcount + post count of each ROM.
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thats why i said "but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS" which means i want opinions on why they think its the best, not just what i think is best.. i much rather hear what other people have to say about the rom. if i wanted on just tuned for me i would just make my own.

Munty_McCoy said:
I don't think there is an ICS ROM with Sense. Sbryan 1124 has an alpha version of the 4.0.3 Sense 4 ROM from the One V but it's not fit for daily use. Try the NexusHD2 CM9 HWA by TyTung. It's vanilla ICS but it has very few issues
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Lol i know that much, but when i tried sense roms i had some lag. But with the ICS roms i have more reliability, im using Nexus HD2 i like it but its been buggy on me where it doesnt notify me when i get a text so its kinda of making me go "eehh" to that rom for now.

MrKickstand said:
thats why i said "but i want opinions on the best Sense rom and best ICS" which means i want opinions on why they think its the best, not just what i think is best.. i much rather hear what other people have to say about the rom. if i wanted on just tuned for me i would just make my own.
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Either way you look at it, 'best ROM' threads are wrong and there isn't an answer so why bother asking?
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Lol i know that much, but when i tried sense roms i had some lag. But with the ICS roms i have more reliability, im using Nexus HD2 i like it but its been buggy on me where it doesnt notify me when i get a text so its kinda of making me go "eehh" to that rom for now.
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Having made my point about there being no best ROM, I can say that NexusHD2 works absolutely perfectly for me. I've been notified about every text and it's without doubt the fastest ROM I've tried for playing games and web browsing in particular. I won't say it's the best ROM because this is EXACTLY what I mean about 'what works for one won't necessarily work for another' but it's certainly good. Sense ROMs are in general slow, and you're not experiencing anything out of the ordinary. If you don't like one of them, chances are you're not going to like any of them.

Nigeldg said:
Either way you look at it, 'best ROM' threads are wrong and there isn't an answer so why bother asking?
Having made my point about there being no best ROM, I can say that NexusHD2 works absolutely perfectly for me. I've been notified about every text and it's without doubt the fastest ROM I've tried for playing games and web browsing in particular. I won't say it's the best ROM because this is EXACTLY what I mean about 'what works for one won't necessarily work for another' but it's certainly good. Sense ROMs are in general slow, and you're not experiencing anything out of the ordinary. If you don't like one of them, chances are you're not going to like any of them.
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I know what you mean, im sorry for mis-wording the thread, but i just like seeing opinions on Rom's before i try them. But if i dont like one sense rom doesnt mean i wont like a different one, every developer has there on way how they make their rom, so what could be in this rom could be completely different in this one, but hey thats the fun of making a rom. Also NexusHD2 my current daily use rom just because of how clean and stable it is, i probably messed something up to get the notification problem, but it has high potential along with paranoidandroid. but the main reason i like opinions on this subject is because maybe there is a underdog rom some where that isnt really get as much attention as the bigger ones right now that could be actually decent and what im looking for, or maybe and aspiring developer is making something.

MrKickstand said:
I know what you mean, im sorry for mis-wording the thread, but i just like seeing opinions on Rom's before i try them. But if i dont like one sense rom doesnt mean i wont like a different one, every developer has there on way how they make their rom, so what could be in this rom could be completely different in this one, but hey thats the fun of making a rom. Also NexusHD2 my current daily use rom just because of how clean and stable it is, i probably messed something up to get the notification problem, but it has high potential along with paranoidandroid. but the main reason i like opinions on this subject is because maybe there is a underdog rom some where that isnt really get as much attention as the bigger ones right now that could be actually decent and what im looking for, or maybe and aspiring developer is making something.
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I agree with you on wanting opinions I like to see the same... just ignore the above person because there is no where in the rules that's states this is wrong.....he just has nothing better to do..... anyway back on topic..... I have tried paranoid ( which I'm on and I LOVE) the later update allows alot of spirit changes that allow me to have everything to my liking... I have a half table half phone thing going on and its great. I tried aokp but I felt it was too buggy maybe after its off hold it will be better. I myself have been wondering about gb roms my self i haven't tried any hope this helps
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rawdaddymagraden said:
I agree with you on wanting opinions I like to see the same... just ignore the above person because there is no where in the rules that's states this is wrong.....he just has nothing better to do..... anyway back on topic..... I have tried paranoid ( which I'm on and I LOVE) the later update allows alot of spirit changes that allow me to have everything to my liking... I have a half table half phone thing going on and its great. I tried aokp but I felt it was too buggy maybe after its off hold it will be better. I myself have been wondering about gb roms my self i haven't tried any hope this helps
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The main reason i liked paranoidandroid was becaus of how stable it was and the uniqueness of the tablet phone. It looked nice and felt nice but the keyboard was a giant turn off and when i installed a different keyboard it would bug out like crazy and i couldnt find a way to fix it. But overall it has really good and clean.
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Paranoidandroid 1.1a didn't work so well for me. The phone randomly restarted one day and was stuck at the boot screen for hours. NexusHD2 gets the job done for me. I can live with the bugs

Munty_McCoy said:
Paranoidandroid 1.1a didn't work so well for me. The phone randomly restarted one day and was stuck at the boot screen for hours. NexusHD2 gets the job done for me. I can live with the bugs
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Thats why Nexus HD2 is my daily use rom, the only bugs in it are small ones that will be worked out. but other than that its overall great, but personally parnoidandroid does have my attention because i like the whole hybrid style, just some kinks need to be ironed out.

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Thats why Nexus HD2 is my daily use rom, the only bugs in it are small ones that will be worked out. but other than that its overall great, but personally parnoidandroid does have my attention because i like the whole hybrid style, just some kinks need to be ironed out.
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I like the whole hybrid concept too. Is paranoidandroid 1.2a any better?

Munty_McCoy said:
I like the whole hybrid concept too. Is paranoidandroid 1.2a any better?
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It definitely is IMO it has even more detail into what dpi's can be controlled and it has a new keyboard... the giant keyboard was a true turn off but I fixed that by adjusting the dpi for the keyboard and its great now I have hack zero reeboots or issues and battery life with juice defender and slightly oc is like 17 hrs moderate use for me
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rawdaddymagraden said:
just ignore the above person because there is no where in the rules that's states this is wrong
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Whilst I'm not here to get into any sort of argument, I'd just like to point out that just because something isn't stated in the rules doesn't mean it's not wrong. Back on topic though, Paranoidandroid is really good and different from other ROMs, although as of when I tried it NexusHD2 was far more stable and I preferred it.

help installing a custon rom

Hi ive just unlocked and rooted my n7,i want to install the paranoid android hybrid rom from the developers page,under instructions theres 3 download links,1 rom, 2 bugfixes, 3 gapps...what i'm wondering is,the zip file size for the bugfixes is exactly the same as the rom zip(144mb)..Do i need to install both or just one of them...cheers for any help offered...Dave

Just install the rom for grouper and gapps for jb. Thats all I did when I tried that rom.

SysAdmNj said:
Just install the rom for grouper and gapps for jb. Thats all I did when I tried that rom.
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Thanks for the reply pal,will do as you recommend,by the way,any tips on what you think is the best rom on here,theres quiet a lot and im a bit overwhelmed as to which one to use...
I'm not really into trying lots of diffrent ones,just want one that is above all else stable,and if theres some nice features then thats a bonus,once again cheers pal... regards dave

fudd777 said:
Thanks for the reply pal,will do as you recommend,by the way,any tips on what you think is the best rom on here,theres quiet a lot and im a bit overwhelmed as to which one to use...
I'm not really into trying lots of diffrent ones,just want one that is above all else stable,and if theres some nice features then thats a bonus,once again cheers pal... regards dave
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I just got mines yesterday and I cant really recommend one as its your personal choice. I tried a few of the "tablet" ones and I think I'm going back to stock later or a kang, if I can modify my nav buttons/colors etc.

fudd777 said:
Thanks for the reply pal,will do as you recommend,by the way,any tips on what you think is the best rom on here,theres quiet a lot and im a bit overwhelmed as to which one to use...
I'm not really into trying lots of diffrent ones,just want one that is above all else stable,and if theres some nice features then thats a bonus,once again cheers pal... regards dave
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There's no such thing as "the best ROM". Everybody wants something different. Take your time and try things out. You'll soon find out what matters to you. It took me about 6 months of playing around with lots of different ROMs to finally settled on what works best for me.
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BAMF paradigm is a really nice combination of custom settings options (like customizable nav buttons, ability to make them any color, built in battery skin chooser, theme chooser, and more) and stability and in my opinion just makes a really nice well rounded daily driver.
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BillGoss said:
There's no such thing as "the best ROM". Everybody wants something different. Take your time and try things out. You'll soon find out what matters to you. It took me about 6 months of playing around with lots of different ROMs to finally settled on what works best for me.
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This! Experiment with lots of different ROMs. None is best but everyone has a favorite.
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Best ROM right now?

Right now, I am on Smoothrom 3.4, and am looking to either upgrade to 4.0, or instead, choose another one entirely. My other choices are Paranoid Android (Maybe Cookies and Cream?) or Glazed Jelly Bean. What do you guys think?

To subjectional. Everybody is just gunna tell you what ROM THEY think is the best and its just gunna be a bag of opinions. Flash one you like don't listen to what a bunch of others think.
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All of them are equally good, just look at the features of each and decide which one fits your needs.

Ok fine, what do you guys recommend?

I like Paranoid Android, very smooth, awesome customization options, and very responsive developer (aaronpoweruser).

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I like Paranoid Android, very smooth, awesome customization options, and very responsive developer (aaronpoweruser).
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Can you update it simply by wiping cache and dalvik cache.?
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Bilge656 said:
Can you update it simply by wiping cache and dalvik cache.?
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most roms can be updated by flashing straight over the top. just check the thread, if it is a major update it may require full wipe first.
you can wipe cache and dalvik before, though more important is that you nandroid backup first!
seriously, try a few roms out for yourself and find out what YOU like. the beauty of a nandroid backup is that you can always go back if you don't like it

It really is very subjective. I've tried so many and it is very hard to really see the differences sometimes.
What is missing from stock that you want? Have you simply tried another kernel?
My personal favorites now are Codename Android and SmoothROM. Both are smooth, I haven't had any bugs that drive me crazy.
Definitely, you'll probably need to flash a few different ones to figure out what you like the most.
I normally do an ADB backup and then restore to put the apps back on. Since I use Nova, I just have to set that as my Launcher and majority of my settings are restored.

Which roms are bug free? I am in the same boat as opposed.. I know I could flash roms and decide but it's easier to ask and even though is personal preference it helps to know what you guys like.. it basically helps noobs siphon out the average roms from the great ones.. it does seem like the top are glazed, paranoid, and smooth Rom.. but please do give your personal opinions:thumbup:

ÜBER™ said:
To subjectional. Everybody is just gunna tell you what ROM THEY think is the best and its just gunna be a bag of opinions. Flash one you like don't listen to what a bunch of others think.
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^ This..

skwon said:
Which roms are bug free? I am in the same boat as opposed.. I know I could flash roms and decide but it's easier to ask and even though is personal preference it helps to know what you guys like.. it basically helps noobs siphon out the average roms from the great ones.. it does seem like the top are glazed, paranoid, and smooth Rom.. but please do give your personal opinions:thumbup:
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No rom is 100% bug-free. Threads like this are a waste of bandwidth for the very simple reason that the answer is totally subjective. Hence, they are summarily locked as soon as a moderator catches wind of them.
While I can understand and appreciate not wanting to spend a considerable amount of time flashing rom after rom, questions such as the subject matter of this thread are as pointless as "what color should I like best" or " what should my favorite tv show be." No one can answer that but you. No offense, and I'm not singling you out with this, but "what rom..." questions come across as wanting to be spoon fed the answer rather than putting even a minimal amount of effort into finding the answer.
Invest a bit of time researching. Give at least a cursory glance to some of the threads in the development forums. Generally, the features of the rom will be detailed in the OP and screenshots may even be posted. Read the last few pages of the threads to see how the current version is playing out. Look at how much traffic the various threads are getting, comparatively, to see which roms might have a fairly large user base or have been around awhile.

I would recommend Paranoid Android.
Everything is great !:good:

I'm using [ROM][KANG] CM10 with Tablet UI and I'm very happy with it. All I needed was a clean and stable rom with Tablet-UI. This one has it all!

Codename in original development...
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I appreciate everyones response to the question in this thread. as it helps me to know where to start flashing roms. Thanks everyone. i started with GlazedJelly( great rom). and now running paranoid 2.5 (another great rom) i like PA as it has the option for stock or tablet ui.

the best?

what do you guys think the best rom is..looking for cool features,customizations,tweaks,battery,and performance

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what do you guys think the best rom is..looking for cool features,customizations,tweaks,battery,and performance
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Hey, I think that the standard rom that the phone is born with is cool enough )
Haven't felt the "no-need to root my phone" feeling before... it's weird, but I honestly feel that it's good enoug , the way it is...
Bobo

The stock rom is pretty much perfect on all levels, on all my previous android phones I felt the desprate need to instantly change into a customized ROM, but on the note I feel that if i ever do install a costume rom it will be worse not better

Everyone has their own definition of cool. Me, I can't stand most of the color ans font themes I see packaged. You're going to have to know what you're wanting for specific advice, or try and try til you find what you love. So far this is the first rom I've had no want to swap out, and I'm running stock.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

The Note 2 is my first device where i don't have the need of a Custom ROM. Stock is a very perfect ROM. I use Android Devices since the HTC Magic.
All depends your own preferences, so make your choice and see if it makes you happy.

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Everyone has their own definition of cool. Me, I can't stand most of the color ans font themes I see packaged. You're going to have to know what you're wanting for specific advice, or try and try til you find what you love. So far this is the first rom I've had no want to swap out, and I'm running stock.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
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I have to agree that many of the roms have themes that aren't to my taste. However as im a flashaholic ive resorted to android revolution,

It's pretty rare on xda to get this many replies favouring stock!
I simply can't find a good reason to flash when everything works perfectly on stock after a little debloating. Perhaps the l only thing I don't like is the touchwiz notification drawer and the toggles. But I'm getting used to it.
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For customization it's pretty cool ParanoidAndroid Rom, i use it and i find it awesome, if u don't need customization Stock Samsung + Root it's the Best.