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So all this happened sometime during the night of 7/1 & morning of 7/2. I noticed when my alarm went off on my phone, my phone was EXTREMELY HOT. Very uncomfortable to the touch. However the battery was at 100%. Not really thinking anything of it, I used it as normal and when bedtime rolled around, I plugged it back in the stock cable & charger. No "beep" indicating it's charging. No change to the battery icon. I started troubleshooting and testing it with different cables/different charger combinations. My phone would not charge at all but everytime I connected a charger to it while it was turned on, it started getting very hot.
I eventually just turned the phone off and attempted to charge it again. When it's off, it won't charge (but won't overheat).
I did notice that when I used another charger (that had an LED indicator of when it was charging), it would completely go off when I plugged my GS4 to it.
I'e never used any other charger with my GS4.
Any ideas WTF is going on?
Faluzure said:
So all this happened sometime during the night of 7/1 & morning of 7/2. I noticed when my alarm went off on my phone, my phone was EXTREMELY HOT. Very uncomfortable to the touch. However the battery was at 100%. Not really thinking anything of it, I used it as normal and when bedtime rolled around, I plugged it back in the stock cable & charger. No "beep" indicating it's charging. No change to the battery icon. I started troubleshooting and testing it with different cables/different charger combinations. My phone would not charge at all but everytime I connected a charger to it while it was turned on, it started getting very hot.
I eventually just turned the phone off and attempted to charge it again. When it's off, it won't charge (but won't overheat).
I did notice that when I used another charger (that had an LED indicator of when it was charging), it would completely go off when I plugged my GS4 to it.
I'e never used any other charger with my GS4.
Any ideas WTF is going on?
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Can you give us any insight on the phone such as any custom flashes or possible root permissions to apps that might affect the battery?
Most likely than not the battery might be fault, I highly doubt it would be anything else unless it's flashes with a certain kernel or rom that might have a bug or two.
L1qu1d said:
Can you give us any insight on the phone such as any custom flashes or possible root permissions to apps that might affect the battery?
Most likely than not the battery might be fault, I highly doubt it would be anything else unless it's flashes with a certain kernel or rom that might have a bug or two.
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Oh. Sorry about that. This phone is as stock as it gets. Nothing custom about it.
I talked to AT&T Chat this morning and they said they think it's the battery. I've never really heard of a battery preventing a charge problem, but that's what they told me it was.
The crappy part is, they are sending me a battery first (and if that doesn't work), they told me to call them back to have the phone replaced. What's worse is if it isn't a battery problem, I'm out a phone for the entire weekend until Monday or Tuesday.
Faluzure said:
Oh. Sorry about that. This phone is as stock as it gets. Nothing custom about it.
I talked to AT&T Chat this morning and they said they think it's the battery. I've never really heard of a battery preventing a charge problem, but that's what they told me it was.
The crappy part is, they are sending me a battery first (and if that doesn't work), they told me to call them back to have the phone replaced. What's worse is if it isn't a battery problem, I'm out a phone for the entire weekend until Monday or Tuesday.
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I think in most cases (i don't know AT&T) they send you a replacement and ask you to ship your phone into the box your new phone came in.
Either way I would think that it is the battery especially with your phone overheating while charging Of courses there are cases where the plug or cord is at fault so you might want to give those options a try as well.
L1qu1d said:
I think in most cases (i don't know AT&T) they send you a replacement and ask you to ship your phone into the box your new phone came in.
Either way I would think that it is the battery especially with your phone overheating while charging Of courses there are cases where the plug or cord is at fault so you might want to give those options a try as well.
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I might want to try that option (get a new phone) despite them sending me a battery first. I'll call them back.
My phone has about 15% left (I turned it off after I realized I couldn't charge it for troubleshooting purposes). I notice now that the phone gets really warm (around the camera flash) when on. This is without it being plugged in and only turned on.
I've tried 2 other chargers (A Griffin and a Belkin that I use for my other phones for work) and none of them charge my GS4. When I plug it into my Motorola Droid Razr (work phone), it charges that just fine. This is really frustrating. Any other weekend would be fine, but it's the freaking 4th of July weekend and I won't have a phone for the entire holiday.
Thanks man, going to call AT&T to see if I can sweet talk the rep to just send me a new phone. The battery is scheduled to come Friday, so maybe they can ship the phone that quickly.
Faluzure said:
I might want to try that option (get a new phone) despite them sending me a battery first. I'll call them back.
My phone has about 15% left (I turned it off after I realized I couldn't charge it for troubleshooting purposes). I notice now that the phone gets really warm (around the camera flash) when on. This is without it being plugged in and only turned on.
I've tried 2 other chargers (A Griffin and a Belkin that I use for my other phones for work) and none of them charge my GS4. When I plug it into my Motorola Droid Razr (work phone), it charges that just fine. This is really frustrating. Any other weekend would be fine, but it's the freaking 4th of July weekend and I won't have a phone for the entire holiday.
Thanks man, going to call AT&T to see if I can sweet talk the rep to just send me a new phone. The battery is scheduled to come Friday, so maybe they can ship the phone that quickly.
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I'm not the biggest tech guy when it comes to phones but I think around the flash area is where the battery connectors are (where they make contact with the phone), so that might result in it getting warm. Although with you not charging it it can still be the battery being faulty.
I would call them back and try to exchange the full phone just to be on the safe side. I still think it is the battery but if your under warranty why let it go to waste?
This happened to me with an HTC Sensation back in 2011. They sent me another battery and it still did this. This could be a common defect among logic boards. Anyway, I get a warranty replacement right away. In your case, it won't matter what rom your using, it will always do this.
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I'm not the biggest tech guy when it comes to phones but I think around the flash area is where the battery connectors are (where they make contact with the phone), so that might result in it getting warm. Although with you not charging it it can still be the battery being faulty.
I would call them back and try to exchange the full phone just to be on the safe side. I still think it is the battery but if your under warranty why let it go to waste?
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This happened to me with an HTC Sensation back in 2011. They sent me another battery and it still did this. This could be a common defect among logic boards. Anyway, I get a warranty replacement right away. In your case, it won't matter what rom your using, it will always do this.
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Thanks guys. I did what you said on Wednesday and AT&T is sending me another phone. Should arrive sometime today. My phone's been off for 3 days now. But with about 10% charge left, I'm curious about something.
Do you have suggestions on how I can make a backup/copy my settings from my old phone to the new one? Remember, my port isn't working. So not sure if this is even possible.
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Thanks guys. I did what you said on Wednesday and AT&T is sending me another phone. Should arrive sometime today. My phone's been off for 3 days now. But with about 10% charge left, I'm curious about something.
Do you have suggestions on how I can make a backup/copy my settings from my old phone to the new one? Remember, my port isn't working. So not sure if this is even possible.
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Best bet would prob be to see if you can get an app quick that backs up everything onto the SD card and swap the SD cards when the phone arrives. Or manually back up what you can to SD (pictures, songs etc) using apps like ES manager etc
PLEASE! Im experiencing same issue with my phone, any solution?
I purchased a defective sgh-i747m (Canadian version of the s4) and, when I connect the phone to as charger, the area where the charging cable connects to the motherboard gets extremely hot. When I try to boot the phone with a good battery, the Samsung logo appears, then the phone turns off. Can't seem to get the phone to charge the battery without getting really hot. Only solution I found was changing the motheboard.
i just got this problem today and a bad time because im leaving in a week, but i decide to leave with out a battery for a couple days see if that does anything
I've been having a few issues with my Nexus 4 on 5.1.1.
Twice in the past month I've had random Force closures of all aps. Facebook was the worst. But then it goes on to all other apps including the launcher.
First time that happened I did a factory reset and things went well. Yesterday it happened again while it was on another charger and I can get my phone to boot.
The screen backlight looks like is on when it's plugged into the charger and will go out if I hold the power button down for 5 to 10 seconds.
If I hold the power button down for 10 seconds when the charger is connected the LED flashes red till I take my finger of the Power button.
I've let it charge overnight (12 hours) and I've tried holding both volume buttons with the power button.
As well as Volume up and Volume down separately with the power button.
Is the phone dead? anyone got any ideas on how to bring it back to life
I've got a screwdriver set on order as I don't have fine enough star screwdriver to remove the internal battery connection. Which is my next step..
I think you are right to try replacing your old battery. Be careful while scraping it out where it is glued in not to tear it up too bad because it can 'splode. Might want to use a plastic card for that. I used a metal shim, an iOpener, and am much better now...
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I'm going to try just unplugging the battery from the board first before I attempt to replace it.
Think it's time for an upgrade anyway.
Got my eye on the "OnePlus-X" as my next phone.
Removed the battery and stuck my multimeter into it.
It's got V output of 3.61 volts but amps drop off a cliff to zero as soon as I touch the contacts.
New battery arriving tomorrow.
i have the same problem with my nexus 4 dude. it boots when it is connected to the charger. basically it works like a desktop. I went into recovery mode and did a fectory data reset and wiped all the cache. Pliz help me proceeed. I kind have a hunch that its a software thing. did yours start working ater change of battery? Thanks ..
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i have the same problem with my nexus 4 dude. it boots when it is connected to the charger. basically it works like a desktop. I went into recovery mode and did a fectory data reset and wiped all the cache. Pliz help me proceeed. I kind have a hunch that its a software thing. did yours start working ater change of battery? Thanks ..
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Can you go to recovery without charger plugged in?
karsondang said:
Can you go to recovery without charger plugged in?
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yes dude. i can go to recovery without it even being plugged in. I m pretty frustrated. I plan on giving it to the repair centre but he will charge me a bit high. Doesnt matter will let you guys know if I do find a solution.
Well my "new" battery arrived yesterday.
And it's getting sent back today!!
Got it through Amazon and when the battery arrived it looked ok but would not charge. I took it out to check the contacts and the ribbon came away form the battery! Looks like it was not soldered to the battery properly (if it ever was!) Just glad it didn't cause a short and kill the phone or myself.
Getting one from a different supplier tomorrow. Hopefully this one will work!
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Well my "new" battery arrived yesterday.
And it's getting sent back today!!
Got it through Amazon and when the battery arrived it looked ok but would not charge. I took it out to check the contacts and the ribbon came away form the battery! Looks like it was not soldered to the battery properly (if it ever was!) Just glad it didn't cause a short and kill the phone or myself.
Getting one from a different supplier tomorrow. Hopefully this one will work!
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Please let me know! I've ordered a third battery just now. The first one was an aftermarket one, the second one was apparently a knock-off, this one was smaller than the original one.
The third one is hopefully a genuine LG one since the reseller is listed on LG their site.
Dam!!
Replacement battery arrived today. Looks good.
Installed it and the same thing is happening!
Screen backlight goes on. does not seem to be charging!
Now thinking the motherboard is buggered!
But I'll keep the phone on charge overnight just in case...
Damn that sucks to hear man. Hope it works tomorrow!
Now just searching freebe sites and eBay for any damaged cracked nexus4's I could scavenge from
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yes dude. i can go to recovery without it even being plugged in. I m pretty frustrated. I plan on giving it to the repair centre but he will charge me a bit high. Doesnt matter will let you guys know if I do find a solution.
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After battery replacement, my Nexus 4 is come back
karsondang said:
After battery replacement, my Nexus 4 is come back
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Good on you!
No point in replacing a great phone if you can help it
Hey
My phone was fully charged the other day. I got arrested and when I got my phone out of evidence it was dead and wouldn't turn on. I didn't think it was low enough battery to have died completely as to not turn on... so I took it home and plugged into my wall charger, no response, no vibration. Plugged into PC and it makes the traditional sound when a USB device is recognize but it doesn't show up in the drive list and doesn't charge.
I've tried doing a factory reset, tried smacking my phone around to jostle a jammed power button, tried pushing all sorts of combinations of buttons, tried different chargers, tried jamming my S3 battery in there in an odd enough angle to have it connect (someone said he got this to work)
nothing.
any help would be much appreciated.
When the battery is inserted the circuit is closed and power goes through the phone. Having no battery means the circuit is open. That's why it won't charge without a battery.
Now, my point is: Does it actually charge with the S3 battery?
GDReaper said:
When the battery is inserted the circuit is closed and power goes through the phone. Having no battery means the circuit is open. That's why it won't charge without a battery.
Now, my point is: Does it actually charge with the S3 battery?
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Huh? I haven't tried charging it with a battery, and no it doesn't charge with an S3 battery. sorry did I word my post in a way that said I was trying to charge it with no battery?
No. But we will take it on an exclussion method. You know, eliminate every other possibility.
Now, I suggest you get an actual battery that fits. You don't have to buy one, it's just for the sake of being 100% sure it is not the battery.
How exactly did you try to factory reset it if it doesn't respond?
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No. But we will take it on an exclussion method. You know, eliminate every other possibility.
Now, I suggest you get an actual battery that fits. You don't have to buy one, it's just for the sake of being 100% sure it is not the battery.
How exactly did you try to factory reset it if it doesn't respond?
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I have a battery that fits. I'm sorry, I don't really understand what you're getting at. Unless you think I was trying to run an S4 on an S3 battery this whole time because I mentioned that I tried using an S3 battery as one of my alternative solutions?
Also, bump.
I know you have an S4 battery. But you have just one, right? That's why you tried the S3 battery, to eliminate the possibility of a broken battery.
But what I'm saying is that, since it's an S3 battery and won't perfectly fit, the possibility of a broken battery is not completely eliminated.
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I know you have an S4 battery. But you have just one, right? That's why you tried the S3 battery, to eliminate the possibility of a broken battery.
But what I'm saying is that, since it's an S3 battery and won't perfectly fit, the possibility of a broken battery is not completely eliminated.
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AH. Right, sorry. So phones are recognized by PCs even when their batteries are dead?
Damn. I'll try and find a friend with an S4. Definitely had issues with the battery prior to this, hopefully it's just a dead one.
Hi all, first time poster.
My Nexus 4 has been displaying behaving wacky. I've tried searching a ton, but can't find any posts with this collection of symptoms. Here's the story, please bear with me.
Two days ago I replaced the battery, left it charging all night, next morning it still would not boot. Every time I would just get the flashing red light. The only way it would boot was if I held volume down + power for 15 seconds, at which point inserting the micro USB cable would get the bootloader up. From there I could boot to android, but it would turn off as soon as I unplugged.
Charging it wirelessly made the battery hold charge, but still it would only boot if I did the 15-seconds-then-cable trick and chose "start" from the bootloader, or help volume Up +power. Simply holding the power button makes the phone vibrate three times and then show the flashing red light.
Once in Android, it would charge via USB and wireless. Debugging, etc. was also working. But if turned off, charging via USB gives the red light, and charging wirelessly doesn't show the white charging icon. Once back in Android, the battery indicator is all over the place, from 98% to 80% to 64%, back to 80%.I've tried calibrating, running the battery down and charging to full, but no change.
Now, every time I send a reboot command, from Android, fastboot, adb, bootloader, recovery, anywhere, the phone turns off but doesn't boot. I have to boot it manually.
At this point I went back to stock, using factory image (flash-all), and even during this I had to boot manually every time the script was <waiting for device>.
After a few more wipes and roms, I settled on Chroma (stock kernel, radio).
The system is running fine, but all the issues explained above persist.
Any ideas getting the battery to read properly? And what's with it only booting via bootloader or volume up + power. How about charging while off?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Sounds like the battery is defective or something went wrong during the battery replacement.
The red light flashing when connected to a charger indicates that the battery is fully discharged.
audit13 said:
Sounds like the battery is defective or something went wrong during the battery replacement.
The red light flashing when connected to a charger indicates that the battery is fully discharged.
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Thanks for the reply.
The phone charges (seemingly) normally when it's on, USB or wireless. But even at full battery, if I try to charge it via USB (computer or wall), I get the flashing light and no charge. Wireless works.
What could have gone wrong during replacement to cause this? Me actually messing up the hardware, shorting something?
My only option now seems to be buying another battery and testing whether it behaves differently.
Does the old battery work at all? If it does, you could try putting back the old battery.
Where did you get the replacement? I know that new oem replacement batteries are very difficult to obtain.
The old battery was totally shot. I bought the new one off of Amazon, but yeah total crap shoot if it's any good until you install it.
I'm just trying to rule out possible firmware and software issues before I gamble on another one.
So you think a dud battery could cause all of this stuff, from charging to booting issues?
Yup, I think it's is the battery. According to many people, the batteries on Amazon are not oem.
audit13 said:
Yup, I think it's is the battery. According to many people, the batteries on Amazon are not oem.
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So, I'm just going to return this one and try to get a legit OEM.
For those on the same boat as me: I contacted LG United States and they directed me to https://www.encompass.com/ for parts.
They were not able to find the battery based on phone information, so I gave them the code printed on the actual battery I removed, EAC61898601 LLL. The battery cost US$28 plus $8 shipping (not the $9 I paid on Amazon). It's currently on a 5-day back order, not terrible I suppose.
I'll update here when I've re-replaced the battery.
Hi @dreamsignals. Did you receive and install the battery? How did it go?
I'm at the point where I need a new battery too, and I'm hoping you found the real deal and the install went well.
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Hi @dreamsignals. Did you receive and install the battery? How did it go?
I'm at the point where I need a new battery too, and I'm hoping you found the real deal and the install went well.
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Still waiting for it to arrive. There seems to have been a delay. I'll update here.
dreamsignals said:
Still waiting for it to arrive. There seems to have been a delay. I'll update here.
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Sounds good. Finding and obtaining a legit battery for this phone is a bit of a monumental feat. Seems like installing it is the easy part in comparison
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Sounds good. Finding and obtaining a legit battery for this phone is a bit of a monumental feat. Seems like installing it is the easy part in comparison
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It seems you were totally right. I've got nowhere closer to getting a new battery that actually works. All dead-ends so far...
dreamsignals said:
It seems you were totally right. I've got nowhere closer to getting a new battery that actually works. All dead-ends so far...
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Much appreciated for the update. I haven't found a place to buy a battery yet either that I feel would be the real deal. Will report here if I do.
witnit said:
Much appreciated for the update. I haven't found a place to buy a battery yet either that I feel would be the real deal. Will report here if I do.
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Believe or not, the OEM I ordered the battery from back in November called me a couple of weeks back to say they finally had it in stock. Alas, it got lost on the way and never arrived. Waiting for a second shipment now. It's like a bad drawn-out joke, ha.
Anyways, it's back in stock if anybody is looking. I can't yet give feedback on whether it works. https://www.encompassparts.com/item/10742494/LG/EAC61898601/Rechargeable_Battery,lithium_P
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Believe or not, the OEM I ordered the battery from back in November called me a couple of weeks back to say they finally had it in stock. Alas, it got lost on the way and never arrived. Waiting for a second shipment now. It's like a bad drawn-out joke, ha.
Anyways, it's back in stock if anybody is looking. I can't yet give feedback on whether it works. https://www.encompassparts.com/item/10742494/LG/EAC61898601/Rechargeable_Battery,lithium_P
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We'll all be retirement age by the time these batteries arrive ; )
Maybe pin 2 battery connector broken. What is the battery temperature in ampere app ? When pin 2 broken not showing correct percentage and battery temperature. If can't read battery temperature or percentage correctly, phone can only boot via bootloader. Posibble you broken battery connector jack motherboard phone when disconnecting old battery. Or it's problem only new battery (inside battery or battery connector flex cable). Try to push battery connector by finger and hold, if percentage showing ok, you are broken pin 2 on motherboard phone and must been repair by professional. Watch this video
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having the same problem with a battery I just got replaced. Wish I read here before installing a new one
Didn't knew that Nexus detects where is an original battery or not. I guess it's not. Damn....
dreamsignals said:
Believe or not, the OEM I ordered the battery from back in November called me a couple of weeks back to say they finally had it in stock. Alas, it got lost on the way and never arrived. Waiting for a second shipment now. It's like a bad drawn-out joke, ha.
Anyways, it's back in stock if anybody is looking. I can't yet give feedback on whether it works. https://www.encompassparts.com/item/10742494/LG/EAC61898601/Rechargeable_Battery,lithium_P
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Sorry to revive an old thread,
Did you ever recieve the battery? How is it? What's the date code on it?
I wonder if these batteries are re manufactured or pulled from recycled phones.
so i have a g900f s5 and i fully charged it overnight, phone still working, then i unplugged it and went out, went to unlock it about half an hour later and the screen wouldnt turn on, yanked the battery and tried to get into download mode and nothing, no led indication or vibration, i imagine its completely dead and nothing but a board replacement will fix it, would a usb jig work to fix it, i dont have one on hand but can get one made by a friend
has anyone else had this issue or am i left with a brick
any help is appreciated
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so i have a g900f s5 and i fully charged it overnight, phone still working, then i unplugged it and went out, went to unlock it about half an hour later and the screen wouldnt turn on, yanked the battery and tried to get into download mode and nothing, no led indication or vibration, i imagine its completely dead and nothing but a board replacement will fix it, would a usb jig work to fix it, i dont have one on hand but can get one made by a friend
has anyone else had this issue or am i left with a brick
any help is appreciated
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Have you got a friend or person you know who has a S5?
The first thing I'd do is see if the battery is shot, which I think is more likely the case.
A similar thing happened to my 2 year old S4 (with a battery that wasn't in the recall batch) where the phone would just charge to 100%, died after a minute or two, than takes 2 hours just to go to the charging screen saying 0% charge.
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nah the batterys fine my mother has an s5, albeit stock unrooted and all that jazz and it goes fine in her phone
she actually uses my battery as a spare
EDIT: when i plug it in i can see the led flickering red very faintly
it also heats up rather fast to temps that i would consider not safe for a phone
Toby0897 said:
nah the batterys fine my mother has an s5, albeit stock unrooted and all that jazz and it goes fine in her phone
she actually uses my battery as a spare
EDIT: when i plug it in i can see the led flickering red very faintly
it also heats up rather fast to temps that i would consider not safe for a phone
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sounds like your S5 suffered the kiss of death
yeah i thought so
i think im SOL