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is this happening to everyone? Wasn't going to install or even acknowledge that there was an update, because of the boot loader. But i plug it into a charger and 5 minutes later, it is like the phone is giving me the middle finger and accepting the update on it's own, without any question on if i want to or not.
My phone feels violated.
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Same thing happened to me. O well not ready just yet to brick my s4 lol
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tried everything i could to stop it, even removed battery as it started the update. was hoping for a brick, don't know why. lol, also not to worried about bricking mine, i am fairly confident in my ability to read, unless the thread is in some language other than english, but then again, now i got s translate!
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You would of had to freeze the ota update apps before hand not to be forced to get it
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Could you please let me know which services to freez with TB on At&t S4 as to avoid forced updates, is it At&T Software Update V 42_1_1303_5_1?
Alos please excuse my noobiness, this is my first android and coming from apple jailbreaks, I of coarse was not happy with closed phone policy so i was researching root options (which i know very little about since its my first android platform). Anyways long story short I rooted using motochopper exploit and got superuser. My questions are:
1. Is motochopper a real root or just tricks the phone into thinking its root?
2. Read about a bootloader hack soon to be released...what exactly is that and what will it give us? also what would be the difference between the motochopper "root" i have on my S4 now and the bootloader hack to be released?
3. Got Ram Manager but was unable to create backup recovery since clockwork mod is not yet released for S4, is that true or is there other ways to use Rom manager?
4. And the last but not least, what should a noob user like myself do, or how can we avoid bricking our phones now that we rooted (with motochopper) or will use the boot-loader hack?
5. is Samsung.Cloud Data Relay 2.1.4 responsible in anyways for forced updates?
Please if you can answer any or all questions I would be so grateful, as im sure many other noobs like myself would be. Please don't think I don't research the subject, its just when you are new to something, you always want to be sure. I am sure logic is to be used and common sense also as to not mess with software service or delete stuff you don't know as to avoid bricking but is there something else to watch out for?
Thnks a million guys
Stokem
unlocking the bootloader will allow us to flash an alternate recovery such as clockwork or twrp and then flash a rom. best bet to avoid a brick is to read everything you can about what you want to do. make sure you read any instructions several times before doing anything to make sure you understand.
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p1gp3n said:
unlocking the bootloader will allow us to flash an alternate recovery such as clockwork or twrp and then flash a rom. best bet to avoid a brick is to read everything you can about what you want to do. make sure you read any instructions several times before doing anything to make sure you understand.
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thank you, will there be some custom roms developed for S4 once the bootloader is unlocked or is there some good once already?
also, i read that since AtT can force updates it might patch the bootloader unlock in the future, which processes do we have to freeze in order to avoid it on Att S4. I couldn't find any SDM processes as explained for other S4 carriers. Is it At&T Software Update V 42_1_1303_5_1, do you know by any chance?
I would imagine that roms will be developed & released, but can not say they definitely will.
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Once the bootloader is unlocked Roms will come fast and furious.
To avoid future updates freeze in TB:
AT&T software update
FWUpgrade
LocalFOTA
thank you for your replies. much appreciated
Hi, i have a AT&T S4. i just ran motochopper and rooted my device and installed Titanium Backup. i am totally new to this, i would like to remove all the AT&T crapped not needed and remove ads is possible. what is the best way to do this.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2282367
[TOOL] [ROOT] [DEBLOAT] i337 - ONE TOOL! Updated May/23
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2292932
[Tools} Newb Pack
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Planktron, question if i used motochopper already can i run DEBLOAT over top of it?
thanks
I really don't think it would hurt but don't do it until someone smarter than I says it's Ok. I suggest sifting through that Newb Pack before anything though.
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Question, after running the debloat when i boot my AT&T it says Samsung and shows a white lock that says custom... is there a way to fix this or what happened.
Thanks
LilSnoop40 said:
Question, after running the debloat when i boot my AT&T it says Samsung and shows a white lock that says custom... is there a way to fix this or what happened.
Thanks
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I strongly suggest you go back and read the "root" threads for this information. You can use the forums "search" feature to find many other threads on the subject that should be helpful as well. Jumping into things without reading about them will only get you in trouble. At the very least, you will end up asking a bunch of questions that have already been answered many times. Good luck.
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Question, after running the debloat when i boot my AT&T it says Samsung and shows a white lock that says custom... is there a way to fix this or what happened.
Thanks
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Install supersu then uninstall superuser and reboot twice.
Please search the forums before asking these questions in the future! Thank you!
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ok sorry for the problems.
thanks
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
riz157 said:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.
CoolDevelopment said:
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long
I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
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jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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riz157 said:
Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks
Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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dholms said:
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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Hey all. I'm sure this gets asked quite a good bit but I am looking for some information on the Note 3 and it's current status of rom/root abilities. I have an S4 at the moment so I am fairly saavy with Samsung hardware and procedure at this point. I am going to assume that Verizon pushed out a locked boot thus killing everyone's ability to install roms and TWRP. If this is true, is there a specific build I should be looking for wen I go to get my phone? Also, what does the SafeStrap scene look like on this device? Is it relatively stable?
I apologize for not looking more but I am at work and then immediately going to pickup my girlfriend and head over to get my phone. Any and all responses would be greatly appreciated.
I bought my Note 3 about a week ago and it came with the latest firmware. I was able to very easy root with Kingo and install safestrap which is very much stable BTW.
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After you install safestrap be sure to flash chainfires supersu 1.85 in recovery to rid the kingo Supersu app that kingo puts on your phone. Enjoy that Note 3 bro
good luck!
It will most likely come with the MJE firmware which is the latest. Root with Kingo and then flash chainfires SU and install Safestrap. There is a ton of write ups on the forums about the procedure. I came to the Note 3 from the S4 as well and it's all very similar.
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I bought my Note 3 about a week ago and it came with the latest firmware. I was able to very easy root with Kingo and install safestrap which is very much stable BTW.
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My exact scenario as well, my Note 3 came with THe latest firmware right before MJE, I forget, but regardless neither version could be rooted with Root De La Vega. I used Kingo, my knox is still 00x00 and I have safestrap installed and running the Hyperdrive ROM. If you are worried about the superuser app that kingo installs you will probably be prompted to update it anyway which will replace it with the play store version. I'm not sure why you'd be concerned, but I've seen some chatter about replacing the superuser app.
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Hey all. I'm sure this gets asked quite a good bit but I am looking for some information on the Note 3 and it's current status of rom/root abilities. I have an S4 at the moment so I am fairly saavy with Samsung hardware and procedure at this point. I am going to assume that Verizon pushed out a locked boot thus killing everyone's ability to install roms and TWRP. If this is true, is there a specific build I should be looking for wen I go to get my phone? Also, what does the SafeStrap scene look like on this device? Is it relatively stable?
I apologize for not looking more but I am at work and then immediately going to pickup my girlfriend and head over to get my phone. Any and all responses would be greatly appreciated.
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I have an all incusive thread for start to finish rooting of the N3 in my sig. You can read through it and see the steps. If you get a Note 3 you WON'T be disappointed!
Safestrapp has bypassed the locked bootloader and offers the added awesomeness of being able to boot directly into different roms just waiting to be used. Ingenious and very easy.
Take the N3 plunge, you won't be sorry
I am completely new to android and the world of rooting. I have a galaxy S 5 (SM-G900A). I jailbroke my iphones in the past and found it to be pretty simple. I did the towelroot root last week and didn't know where to go or what to do next. Since the bootloader is locked is it worth it to do the root? Not sure if I am missing something but everything I look up is for the tons of other devices and different models for different carriers. I got a little overwhelmed. So my first question is should I even root this device and what exactly can I do or if you have the same device, what have you done with it?
2) Since the root, my S Health is not working and I noticed the phone to be a little jumpy. I did a factory reset on the device and found that I was still having issues. Then I realized the reset did not wipe the root, so I was able to remove the root with superuser and did another reset. My phone has been working great (non rooted). However, this morning it updated S Health and now I am back to not having that app work. Is there a fix and can it be done by only rooting again?
Thanks for any and everyone's help!
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1)I am completely new to android and the world of rooting. I have a galaxy S 5 (SM-G900A). I jailbroke my iphones in the past and found it to be pretty simple. I did the towelroot root last week and didn't know where to go or what to do next. Since the bootloader is locked is it worth it to do the root? Not sure if I am missing something but everything I look up is for the tons of other devices and different models for different carriers. I got a little overwhelmed. So my first question is should I even root this device and what exactly can I do or if you have the same device, what have you done with it?
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For any newcomer, the very first thing you MUST DO is to search information before asking anything. By doing so, you will obtain tremedous amount of knownledge
Here are a few links for your first questions:
S5-Why root?
lifehacker-10 reasons to root
trendblog-root benefits
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2) Since the root, my S Health is not working and I noticed the phone to be a little jumpy. I did a factory reset on the device and found that I was still having issues. Then I realized the reset did not wipe the root, so I was able to remove the root with superuser and did another reset. My phone has been working great (non rooted). However, this morning it updated S Health and now I am back to not having that app work. Is there a fix and can it be done by only rooting again?
Thanks for any and everyone's help!
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There is no need to root for your problem. This is very common issue for S5. To get your S Health worked as normal, go to Application Manager, delete data of S Health Service and Health Service
babygau said:
For any newcomer, the very first thing you MUST DO is to search information before asking anything. By doing so, you will obtain tremedous amount of knownledge
Here are a few links for your first questions:
S5-Why root?
lifehacker-10 reasons to root
trendblog-root benefits
There is no need to root for your problem. This is very common issue for S5. To get your S Health worked as normal, go to Application Manager, delete data of S Health Service and Health Service
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I did a few searches before I submitted my question. Everything I found is for different devices. I am really looking to see if I can do any of the things you kindly provided links to with the bootloader still locked with ATT. So, that is why I submitted my question.
I also searched this topic and there are many posts that say it is related to the root. It was working fine prior to rooting, as I used it everyday since the Galaxy 5 launched.
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I also searched this topic and there are many posts that say it is related to the root. It was working fine prior to rooting, as I used it everyday since the Galaxy 5 launched.
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It's because they flash either CUSTOM ROM or CUSTOM KERNEL which you have to root to do so.
Just do as I said, S Health bug will be solved.
babygau said:
For any newcomer, the very first thing you MUST DO is to search information before asking anything. By doing so, you will obtain tremedous amount of knownledge
Here are a few links for your first questions:
S5-Why root?
lifehacker-10 reasons to root
trendblog-root benefits
There is no need to root for your problem. This is very common issue for S5. To get your S Health worked as normal, go to Application Manager, delete data of S Health Service and Health Service
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It's because they flash either CUSTOM ROM or CUSTOM KERNEL which you have to root to do so.
Just do as I said, S Health bug will be solved.
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Still not working and it is freezing my device. Thanks for the help though.
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Still not working and it is freezing my device. Thanks for the help though.
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You're welcome, just to make sure there are two things you need to delete both of their data: S Health and HealthService. Just deleting either of them will also result in FC
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You're welcome, just to make sure there are two things you need to delete both of their data: S Health and HealthService. Just deleting either of them will also result in FC
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a lot of roms have fixed that bug a while ago.