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Titanium vs Nandroid

A little confused here and not that knowledgeable.
Switched my SD cards from a class 2 to a class 6.
I have the paid version of Titanium backup.
Here is what I did:
1. Complete (apps+data) Titanium backup
2. Nandroid + ext backup
3. Copied to computer hd
4. partitioned new card
5. Nandroid restore
(Note: Neither one backed up my photos/vids/music that I can find) But I did copy them to the hd and restored them so no biggie.
So.. should I do a complete Titanium restore now?
The reason I am asking this: All of my apps seemed to be working fine, however, I am not seeing any of the apps on my sd card as I did previously.
Thanks.

edit: just realized you were using apps2sd, so yeah i think you'll have to partition new card and put the image on your new card, then do a nandroid restore, no need for TI.

brentmel said:
TI just backs up your application apks and associated settings stored in the phones data folder (root required). Nandroid makes an image of your phones internal rom. Anything on your sd card can be backed up with copy and paste on any computer.
There is no need to use TI or nandroid for swapping an sd card, only changing roms. You can swap your sd card out while your phone is running, nothing vital is stored there.
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It is if you are using apps2sd... which I didn't put in the original post.
Sorry.

Danokan said:
It is if you are using apps2sd... which I didn't put in the original post.
Sorry.
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lol yeah I got it, after I actually read everything

[Q] Restoring from titanium backup

Do i need to install titanium backup to external sd card so i cab restore the backup on internal sd card of GT? I am asking because if i flash the device and the tit. backup is on the internal sd card everything will be deleted including tit backup app so from where i can restore my backup?

No need. You just install titanium on the phone and do the backup. You can then move the entire directory to your external sd card. When you flash, you just install it again and then restore your backup.
/Feras - Galaxy Tab

sorry which directory to move you are talking about?

No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.

norm2002 thanks, you know without changing the directory (before reading your post) i backed up everything and then flashed with JMI, flashed perfectly and then installed Titanium back and when i tried to restore i see no files to restore it was 0 written. I was assuming TB uploads all data to it's server but now No Voila for me. But now you taught me how to backup. Will press thanks for your help.

norm2002 said:
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
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That was very helpfull. Had the same problem wenn i flashed the Roto-rom. Thought i was covered with Titanium. But the flash deleted mij internal-sd. Now all is on the external and i am very pleased..

i've always run how norm2002 describes it. hasn't failed me yet.

oh men, no offence, but this forum is becoming a rubbish container...
times ago I remember this forum as one where there were only advanced users posting their finds and where the newbies could read and learn about...
but now every new(to android and not only!) user is opening 3d here and there so the usefull 3d are going to finish bottom page or even in the other pages and finding what you need is becoming just as searching a needle in the rick.
so please USE THE SEARCH BUTTON and some nous before posting such things...for the "well being" of the XDA comunity...
thanks and I repeat : NO OFFENCE INTENDED!
how could somebody pretend to mod his cell/tab without even reading the settings in the apps he uses?
.....to posterity the arduous sentence!

norm2002 said:
No need to move anything. Just change the backup folder in TB - Menu - Preferences - Backup folder name from the default of TitaniumBackup (which is on the internal SD card) to external_sd/Titanium Backup (which is on the external SD card). Voila! You may need to reinstall TB from the Market if you have deleted everything but the backups will remail on your external card.
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Thanks, I'll make the change too.

If you want to be sure, you could always copy the titanium backup folder from the tab to your PC(USB), and copy it back after formatting/flashing a rom.

Nice tip norm2002! I can't count the times I have deleted my precious backups when I repartitioned!

Thank you all, you guys are very informative.

YoMarK said:
If you want to be sure, you could always copy the titanium backup folder from the tab to your PC(USB), and copy it back after formatting/flashing a rom.
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The more places you can have backup files saved, the safer you are. With TB it's wise to have the backup files stored on:
- External SD card
- PC
- Dropbox
This way, regardless of what happens, you have your backup files safe and can set up your Tablet (or a new one if your old Tablet gets lost/stolen) easily.

Ok guys thanks for all the answers

The dropbox option is very cool!

[Q] Halp! Deleted external SD card?

First of all... I wanted to start this post off by saying yes, I know I'm an idiot.
Now that that's out of the way....
A few weeks ago, I got so excited to flash a custom ROM, that somehow when I ran TWRP and backed up my system to the external SD card, I also wiped my external SD card. Because I'm an idiot. I don't know how or why it happened really. I just know it did.
I had previously saved EVERYTHING to my external SD card, thinking that was the safest place for the data... and now the past two years of my life documented in photographs are gone.
I have tweaked out on running custom phone software since the days of the original Razr and flashing Alltel firmware on it... and this is the first major screw up I've ever done.
Now... does TWRP back up that data somewhere, somehow? Or is it just system data/apps that get backed up? If TWRP didn't save it somewhere, is there possibly somewhere that the contents of my external SD card were MOVED upon installation of the custom ROM?

ircphoenix said:
A few weeks ago, I got so excited to flash a custom ROM, that somehow when I ran TWRP and backed up my system to the external SD card, I also wiped my external SD card.
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You should never store your sole backup copy on the same device as is being backed up as you probably realize now.
Anyway, it's not clear from your post if you were storing a redundant copy of your backup on your external SD card or if you had configured TWRP to use your external SD card as the primary folder and therefore sole backup copy. The default location is usually /data/media/0/TWRP. Try a search for TWRP folders using a root aware file browser. With any luck you will find a backup on your internal SD card.
If not, then the only way to recover would be to try a data recovery program on your external SD card. Unless you do Google /cloud backups as well?
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Recuva does most of the work well, and there is an option to restore the directory structure too if you poke around in the settings. Puran File Recovery works where Recuva did not in recovering some images and videos.
Both I have tried after an accidental format of the SD card from the phone settings.
They are both free desktop software.
Important to take not not to copy any files over to the affected card, or even your recovered files as well. Only do so when you are sure you have recovered all that you can onto a desktop folder.
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fffft said:
Anyway, it's not clear from your post if you were storing a redundant copy of your backup on your external SD card or if you had configured TWRP to use your external SD card as the primary folder and therefore sole backup copy.
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The second scenario is what I believe I did. And I think when it created the backup, it wiped the external SD to suit it's needs. Problem being that the Nandroid backup wanted 6 gigs ish of space, and I had 4.5 or so remaining on the internal SD.... don't know what stuff I had on there... but *shrug*
Markuzy said:
Recuva does most of the work well, and there is an option to restore the directory structure too if you poke around in the settings. Puran File Recovery works where Recuva did not in recovering some images and videos.
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Thank you for the tip. I will try both of these. I think the nandroid backup wrote over the areas on the SD where the pictures were stored. You'd think it would pick the empty space before the occupied space... but I guess since it wiped it clean prior to backing up, it was ALL empty space. *sigh*
Thank you both very much for your help.

Lollipop, N9005, SD Card and wierd issues

Hello,
so I got this N9005 on 5.0 Lollipop with AryaMod, but this issue happened even on stock firmware.
I got I rooted, twrp working, and I can copy files on extSdcard but some apps like Go Backup and Restore cannot use extSdcard as a storage disk. Camera works fine, and SD Fix for writing on SdCard says it can't do anything as it seems my card is not protected! QuickPic viewer can delete, copy, move files, actually almost everything works with extSdcard.
Well, I like to play with settings, remove system apps etc. so backups are important. I did nandroid backup and it sits on sd card, twrp doesn't have any issues with it, thus Go Backup has. I use Go Launcher, have many many custom icons, icon labels, etc. so Go Backup is best. I never had such issue before on other phones with 2.3.6 android.
What could be wrong? If apk for checking write permissions says it is ok but it is not working, it is weird.
Card was formatted in this device, and when I wanted to copy my stuff back after formatting, Total Commander put some popup asking if it has to mount sd card in write mode, I tap yes and it started to copy files. Why this popup shows up when sd card has no restrictions?
Please ask for other info needed for this investigation.

Could be the app having it's own limitation in regards to writing to SD card.
Also, use Titanium Backup for backing up and restoring applications. Does the work way better and is quite easy to use as well.

Titanium Backup Pro adn TWRP won't recognize backup on SD card

As the title says neither TB nor TWRP will recognize my SD card, the backup on it respectively. I made a Nandroid-backup with TWRP 3.0.2 on my Z3C, put the SD card into my XC and tried to restore from said Nandroid-backup but TB doesn't even recognize the SD card. Says there is no TWRP folder/backup on it. But there definitely is. I can see it in the browser. I also copied it to my internal storage and from there I could access it without problems.
Weirdly enough TWRP also doesn't recognize the backup folder. When I select to restore and select my SD card there is no backup to choose from. I'm using TWRP 3.1.1 on my XC.
Phone is rooted and running the latest fw 34.3.A.0.217 with Genesis kernel 1.05-nondrm
Is the backup faulty or could it be because of some incompatibilities with the kernel?

Backup a file so TB makes a new folder then copy your the contents of your backup into it and try again and you need to select your SD card in TWRP.

I backed everything up with TWRP to my SD card. The folder is there, as are the files.
TB just doesn't recognize my SD card at all. It only recognizes my internal storage, but not my SD card.
When I copy the TWRP backup from the SD card to the TWRP folder on my internal storage I can restore from Nandroid backup.
But I think that the backup is faulty too, because after restoring contacts and messages to test it the apps crash. When I open the telephone app it crashes and says "android.process.acore" has been closed. It says the same when I open the messaging and contacts app but the messaging app doesn't crash.

razzledazzle83 said:
I backed everything up with TWRP to my SD card. The folder is there, as are the files.
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I was talking about TB and what I've done in the past after restoring my Phone to get TB to recognize my files. Browse through a few pages of the TWRP threads, I'm sure I've seen similar issues reported about the SD.

razzledazzle83 said:
But I think that the backup is faulty too, because after restoring contacts and messages to test it the apps crash. When I open the telephone app it crashes and says "android.process.acore" has been closed. It says the same when I open the messaging and contacts app but the messaging app doesn't crash.
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A common solution to this problem is to 'Clear Cache' of affected apps in their App Info / Storage dialog.

ypnos42 said:
A common solution to this problem is to 'Clear Cache' of affected apps in their App Info / Storage dialog.
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Yes, I have restored data+cache. Maybe that's what caused the errors. Weird thing is, no messages were restored except the drafts I didn't send but saved.
XperienceD said:
I was talking about TB and what I've done in the past after restoring my Phone to get TB to recognize my files. Browse through a few pages of the TWRP threads, I'm sure I've seen similar issues reported about the SD.
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I've read somewhere that since 4.4.4 TB cannot read/write a partition it wasn't installed on. Did you mean that? To create a TB folder on the SD card so TB will have access to the SD card?
Edit: ok, so I tried this method
Code:
create a folder on the external sdcard,using the following folder-structure:
/storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/
If you already have existing backups, move them with a file-explorer from their current place to:
/storage/extSdCard/Android/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/
Lastly, go to the preferences of TitaniumBackup, choose “Backup folder location” and choose the above specified folder.
Finish.
And it does kinda work. I do now have access to my SD card via TB. But it still says there is no TWRP folder on it. I even copied the TB backup to the TWRP folder and the TWRP folder to the TB folder. No luck.
Also TWRP doesn't recognize the TWRP backup I created on the SD card even though it recognizes the card itself.

If you copied files to computer:
It adds .zip extension to tar.gz files
And .txt extension to properties files
That's why program cannot recognize them.
U should delete that extra additions from file names