What does "KLTE" mean? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

There should be a stickied S5 dictionary for noobs..
What does "KLTE" mean? I'm asking this because I'd like to flash TWRP through TWRP manager but I have no idea if my phone is KLTE or not..
EDIT: found answer over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784690
EDIT: 2014-09-29
Let's have a definite confirmed answer as to where these device type names come from. :good:
John Bentley said:
What I'm after is knowledge.
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This question is not answered.
The closest thing to an answer in the thread you linked to, [Q]Possibly a stupid question... (IDing handset version) is
gee2012 said:
KLTE = G900I, G0900F and G900M
K3G = G900H
These are device names.
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... which hints at an answer but falls far short. A google search for "klte" or "what is klte" returns XDA forum threads, including this one, which use the term but don't define it.
I'd suggest removing the "[Solved]" from your title until some kind and experienced user can enlighten us noobs.
A response here, rather than the other thread, would be better given this current thread is descriptively titled ("What does "KLTE" mean?").

lingowistico said:
There should be a stickied S5 dictionary for noobs..
What does "KLTE" mean? I'm asking this because I'd like to flash TWRP through TWRP manager but I have no idea if my phone is KLTE or not..
EDIT: found answer over here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784690
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klte is just a Device Type for Galaxy S5, as hlte is Device Type for Galaxy Note 3...
You can see more detailed info in Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app.
(Model name, Device type, Product name, Product code, etc...)

Thanks vndnguyen. That provides a partial picture. For example I now can see the "Device Type" field in the Phone INFO Samsung app (which, incidentally, for my Samsung Galaxy S2 repeats the value for "Phone Model", GT-I9100.
vndnguyen said:
klte is just a Device Type for Galaxy S5, as hlte is Device Type for Galaxy Note 3...
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That contradicts the information provided by gee2012. That is, that for one phone model, such as the Samsung Galaxy S5, there can be multiple device types. This is further illustrated at teamw.in/twrp_view_all_devices, looking at one model, for example, the Samsung Galaxy S4 you see multiple device types:
TWRP for Samsung Galaxy S4 (Canada) [jfltecan]
TWRP for Samsung Galaxy S4 (Cricket) [jfltecri]
And this misses the basic questions. Is "klte" a designation internal to Samsung or do other manufacturers use it? Are the letters random or based on some code that references something (the above examples seem to reference a region and carrier)? Where is the list, at least for the Samsung Galaxy S5, of device types? Does "ktle" reference a region or a piece of hardware? etc.
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K stands for Krait (name of cpu) and LTE stands for well LTE.
Basically KLTE is used as short for S5's based on the Snapdragon 801 chipset.
That's how I see it.

lingowistico said:
K stands for Krait (name of cpu) and LTE stands for well LTE.
Basically KLTE is used as short for S5's based on the Snapdragon 801 chipset.
That's how I see it.
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LTE is correct, but K does not stand for Krait, as Note 3 also use the same CPU, but its Device Type is hlte.
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And also please be noted that you can easily change the Model Name (SM-G900F), Device Type (klte), Product Name (kltexx) by editing the build.prop file.

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Thanks @lingowistico and @vndnguyen for your responses.
vndnguyen thanks for providing information about where these values reside (build.prop). Of course if those values where changed then they would simply inaccurately reflect the intentions of Samsung to identify its model, device, and product.
lingowistico, vndnguyen has claimed that your speculations are not, in fact, true. Given that, and that the basic questions remain, what do you think of my suggestion?

vndnguyen said:
LTE is correct, but K does not stand for Krait, as Note 3 also use the same CPU, but its Device Type is hlte.
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And also please be noted that you can easily change the Model Name (SM-G900F), Device Type (klte), Product Name (kltexx) by editing the build.prop file.
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Yes of course. You can't have two different devices with the same name. So what does the K stand for? How do you know for sure that it doesn't stand for krait?
John Bentley said:
Thanks @lingowistico and @vndnguyen for your responses.
vndnguyen thanks for providing information about where these values reside (build.prop). Of course if those values where changed then they would simply inaccurately reflect the intentions of Samsung to identify its model, device, and product.
lingowistico, vndnguyen has claimed that your speculations are not, in fact, true. Given that, and that the basic questions remain, what do you think of my suggestion?
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What is your suggestion? I'm sorry I didn't get it.

lingowistico said:
Yes of course. You can't have two different devices with the same name. So what does the K stand for? How do you know for sure that it doesn't stand for krait?
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vndnguyen's point is that that there are two different devices, a Samsung Galaxy S5 and a Samsung Note 3, with *different* device types strings; and if "K" stood for krait, a group of snapdragon processors, then the Note 3 variant with a snapdragon 800 would have a device name with a "K" in it. But the (relevant variant of the (I assume)) Note 3 has a device type of "hlte", so ndnguyen claims.
Even if vndnguyen was mistaken about that you seem to be guessing ("That's how I see it.") at how the device type string is derived, not making a claim to know how the device type string is derived based on evidence. What I'm after is knowledge.
lingowistico said:
What is your suggestion? I'm sorry I didn't get it.
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Me:
I'd suggest removing the "[Solved]" from your title until some kind and experienced user can enlighten us noobs.
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John Bentley said:
vndnguyen's point is that that there are two different devices, a Samsung Galaxy S5 and a Samsung Note 3, with *different* device types strings; and if "K" stood for krait, a group of snapdragon processors, then the Note 3 variant with a snapdragon 800 would have a device name with a "K" in it. But the (relevant variant of the (I assume)) Note 3 has a device type of "hlte", so ndnguyen claims.
Even if vndnguyen was mistaken about that you seem to be guessing ("That's how I see it.") at how the device type string is derived, not making a claim to know how the device type string is derived based on evidence. What I'm after is knowledge.
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IMO, the Device Type is just a random name, it has no meaning.
Here is some Device Type for your reference:
Galaxy Tab 2 10.1 - espresso10wifi
Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 - espressowifi
Galaxy Tab 3 10.1 - santos10lte
Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 - lt02lteatt
Galaxy Tab 3 8.0 - lt02lte
Galaxy Tab 3 - lt01lte
Galaxy S3 - m0
Galaxy S4 - jflte
Galaxy S5 - klte
Galaxy Note 2 - t03g
Galaxy Note 3 N900 - ha3g
Galaxy Note 3 N9005 - hlte
As you can see, the suffix of the Device Type is type of network supported (wifi, 3g, lte) or network provider (att - AT&T, spr - Sprint, tmo - T-Mobile, vzw - Verizon...). But the prefix is random and can not be predicted.

The point of of this thread was to have a simple answer to the following question:
Can I flash "KLTE" roms? I got my answer.
But since you've now embarked on a quest for some actual knowledge behind "KLTE" I'm going to go ahead and remove SOLVED from the title. Because you've intrigued me.

John Bentley said:
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http://developer.samsung.com/home.do is a good place to look for an answer I think.

lingowistico said:
But since you've now embarked on a quest for some actual knowledge behind "KLTE" I'm going to go ahead and remove SOLVED from the title. Because you've intrigued me.
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lingowistico said:
Let's have a definite confirmed answer as to where these device type names come from.
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Good on you lingowistico. That's the spirit!
@vndnguyen. Yes it does seem that Device Type is used by Samsung with no deterministic algorithm. The suffixes do seem to be some combination of the most advanced (or more costly?) radio in the device (wifi, 3g, lte) with an optional carrier. Yeah I don't know what the prefix could reference. Perhaps it's just a sequence designator.
Again, the biggest list of device types to model name mappings I've found is http://teamw.in/twrp_view_all_devices
So that establishes one of my issues: Is device type specific to Samsung? No. For example HTC has device types.
And indeed I've found an official Android definition at http://developer.android.com/reference/android/os/Build.html , which explains most of the values found in /system/build.prop. So ro.product.device (it seems) is explained as
DEVICE The name of the industrial design.
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Not that "The name of the industrial design" is especially meaningful. But it seems to be the clue that its a field is used by Manufacturer's however they like, for their internal purposes.
From SM-G906S/K/L/ S805 Info Sharing thread (Root/CWM/Custom Rom)
prodigiez said:
the version "klte" is G900x
our version is known as "lentislte"
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Which is not quite right given that a SM-G900H has a ro.product.device of "k3g" as shown in a build.prop dump at Any Indian here Owning Galaxy S5? Need help > Post 3
What we need is an official or unofficial list of all device types for all Samsung devices, or at least for all Samsung Galaxy S5. lingowistico, for that purpose thanks for the http://developer.samsung.com/home.do link. I'm rooting around there, so far without success.

@vndnguyen i have a 900F "klteZH" . will brick it if try to flash klteXX roms on it?

shohag2018 said:
@vndnguyen i have a 900F "klteZH" . will brick it if try to flash klteXX roms on it?
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I don't own S5, but the answer is most likely yes.
ZH is Hong Kong version and XX is international version. These variants are not compatible with each other.
If you want to flash klteXX rom, you need the PIT file from that variant.

vndnguyen said:
I don't own S5, but the answer is most likely yes.
ZH is Hong Kong version and XX is international version. These variants are not compatible with each other.
If you want to flash klteXX rom, you need the PIT file from that variant.
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Where can i get it?
EDIT: ok now this is what happened. i just flashed the universal gsm built for cm12 unofficial, and now the device is being shown as kltexx. is it in any way possible that first two letters maybe denote only the Region and has nothing to do with the hardware? its shown as 900F afterall.. not M/i/k/s or anything..

shohag2018 said:
Where can i get it?
EDIT: ok now this is what happened. i just flashed the universal gsm built for cm12 unofficial, and now the device is being shown as kltexx. is it in any way possible that first two letters maybe denote only the Region and has nothing to do with the hardware? its shown as 900F afterall.. not M/i/k/s or anything..
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not really, its more of software, as you know that klte and kltexx are international, you flash Roms for "klte" or "kltexx". in reality, I think its the same thing.

Thanks a lot for this thread. It helped clear up my confusion about my phone. I just got this s5 and was trying to figure out if i could flash a rom

Samsung Galaxy S5 Duos Sm-g900fd
plzzz get Custom roms for (Samsung Galaxy S5 Duos Sm-g900fd)

vndnguyen said:
I don't own S5, but the answer is most likely yes.
ZH is Hong Kong version and XX is international version. These variants are not compatible with each other.
If you want to flash klteXX rom, you need the PIT file from that variant.
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Waht about canadian KOT49H?? )900W8(
There are limited supports for this device.. but i figure what the heck try an 'F' rom or an 'H' ROM??

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[Q] Possibly a stupid question... (IDing handset version)

Hi,
Im reasonably technically minded so i have no real concerns about flashing my device, and ive been waiting for an AOSP/AOKP ROM for my S5 (to get rid of touchwiz) since launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2754174
This appears to be it, but it refers to it supporting a GS5 (KLTE) version.
What does KLTE mean in this context, im presuming its something to do with the cellular radio type (ie LTE) but i cant find any information about whether my handset is the KLTE variant, whether it even is a specific varient, or what it means.
What i have is a UK purchased, rooted, EE handset, model number SM-G900F, currently running Omega Rom v1.9.
Is this a KLTE handset, and is this ROM safe to flash to my handset?
Yes, Your device is KLTE variant
Happy flashing!
Thanks very much.
Unfortunately flashing to it simply caused my device to bootloop, and now updating to the latest version of Omega ROM is causing all sorts of unpredictable behaviour and all round BS. Apps crashing that arent even supposed to be loaded, camera doesnt work, gallery wont open existing photos on the SD card. That sort of thing
Screw it, going back to stock.
Calaerial said:
Thanks very much.
Unfortunately flashing to it simply caused my device to bootloop, and now updating to the latest version of Omega ROM is causing all sorts of unpredictable behaviour and all round BS. Apps crashing that arent even supposed to be loaded, camera doesnt work, gallery wont open existing photos on the SD card. That sort of thing
Screw it, going back to stock.
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Since you're new, so make sure to follow its instructions carefully, you might haven't wiped data & cache before/after install that custom rom
babygau said:
Since you're new, so make sure to follow its instructions carefully, you might haven't wiped data & cache before/after install that custom rom
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I wiped the cache before the installation.
To be honest this sort of crap is what kept me on iOS for 5 years, and its whats making me consider dusting off my iPhone 4S because frankly this handset is a joke.
Its now flashed back to stock, but is unusable given that the screen is populated every second with "Google Play Services stopped" "Weather has stopped" etc etc
Half a dozen apps falling over each other to crash over and over again. This is after a return to STOCK! Handset is now completely borked, i cant even install get another custom recovery on it and flash back to the half-broken ROM, because its completely uncontrollable.
Issue now fixed - For the use of anyone who comes across this issue heres how - Spend 20 minutes fighting your way through the menus to the Backup and Restore option, to a complete erase of the handset. This fixed it for me, but at the cost of everything on the handset.
hello ...
I have just 3 question....
Is Samsung Galaxy S5 G900H a KLTE handset?
What Models are KLTE varient?
What Does KLTE mean?
KLTE = G900I, G0900F and G900M
K3G = G900H
These are device names.
Verizon S5?
What about G900V? The Verizon S5?
gee2012 said:
KLTE = G900I, G0900F and G900M
K3G = G900H
These are device names.
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befrosty8612 said:
What about G900V? The Verizon S5?
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The Verizon device name was not part of the question mate
Calaerial said:
What does KLTE mean in this context, im presuming its something to do with the cellular radio type (ie LTE) but i cant find any information about whether my handset is the KLTE variant, whether it even is a specific varient, or what it means.
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gee2012 said:
The Verizon device name was not part of the question mate
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I realize OP didn't ask about the verizon model, but I would like to know what KLTE means. OP went on to ask about their device, but the first question wasn't answered.
Just wanting to know more about what KLTE means.
sorry to revive this, but is there a difference between KLTExx and KLTExh? (both 900F)
Is Samsung Galaxy S5 G900T a KLTE handset? cannot seem to find anything related to T-mobile S5
SM-G900FQ is a KLTE variant too.
undercontr said:
SM-G900FQ is a KLTE variant too.
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how about my SM-G900L ? is that klte ? you can help me, i'm amateur on this device.
daskind95 said:
how about my SM-G900L ? is that klte ? you can help me, i'm amateur on this device.
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Yes that's a KLTE too. That variant release for Korea. But be careful with flashing not all variants compatible with each other.
undercontr said:
Yes that's a KLTE too. That variant release for Korea. But be careful with flashing not all variants compatible with each other.
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Tks For ur help
Wikipedia shows the codename for all Samsung Galaxy S5 (SM-G-900x) phones as KLTE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy_S5
Please see the right sidebar on the wikipedia page, just under the photo of the phone.

[Q] What is the model of the international version of the S5?

And what is the best model to buy I'm trying to buy one but im just ao confused because of the amount of variant/models they are. SMG900H, SMG900F etc
And which variants support the download booster option?
Thanks
multicrazy125 said:
And what is the best model to buy I'm trying to buy one but im just ao confused because of the amount of variant/models they are. SMG900H, SMG900F etc
And which variants support the download booster option?
Thanks
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The SMG900F is the best supported model if you like rooting, flashing and modding and It also supports the download booster. It has a Qualcomm 801 Quadcore cpu.
multicrazy125 said:
What is the model of the international version of the S5?
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International is a vague description, but 900F and 900H would best fit the appellation. As noted above the 900F and a variety of other variant models have the download booster feature. You could check with carriers or search the forum if you want to learn whether specific variants also utilize that feature.
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gee2012 said:
The SMG900F is the best supported model if you like rooting, flashing and modding and It also supports the download booster. It has a Qualcomm 801 Quadcore cpu.
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fffft said:
International is a vague description, but 900F and 900H would best fit the appellation. As noted above the 900F and a variety of other variant models have the download booster feature. You could check with carriers or search the forum if you want to learn whether specific variants also utilize that feature.
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Okay thanks guys i like flashing roms and rooting so i think the GM900F would be a good option since it also has download booster.

SM-G900MD vs SM-G900FD

Hello guys, need clarification, what the difference between SM-G900MD and SM-G900FD? Is it possible to use ROMs from MD for FD and from FD for MD? For my opinion they are similar.... but may be i'm wrong
MADMAXAKTAU said:
Hello guys, need clarification, what the difference between SM-G900MD and SM-G900FD? Is it possible to use ROMs from MD for FD and from FD for MD? For my opinion they are similar.... but may be i'm wrong
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As far as hardware they both are same. The SM-G900FD is for middle east countries and SM-G900MD is for Brazil.
I am using SM-G900MD on my SM-G900FD device without any problem. You have to check what bands are supported for your country.
Cheers
Dear altogether,
please excuse me, that I dig up this thread again, but I think I have more detailed question to this issue:
jaykay0079 said:
As far as hardware they both are same. The SM-G900FD is for middle east countries and SM-G900MD is for Brazil.
I am using SM-G900MD on my SM-G900FD device without any problem. You have to check what bands are supported for your country.
Cheers
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Despite the fact, that their hardware is the same, their supported bands are different as found in their specifications (https://www.frequencycheck.com/comp...m-g900fd-galaxy-s5-duos-lte-a-samsung-pacific). Does that imply, that the range of supported bands is solely defined by the (modem-)software used?
If so, I would be quite happy!
Here is the background to my question:
I aquired a MD (as shown in download mode) which was labeled as FD (in Device Info -> Model in its stock firmware AND on its sticker behind the battery(!)).
Thinking to own a FD, I flashed the DevBase 3.5 by @_alexndr with noroot option (great thanks for this firmware, I already use it with a true FD!): http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s5/development/rom-bof1-devbase-multi-csc-safe-bloat-t3145437.
When I bootet in download mode to flash the bootloader and modem as well, I first noted Knox 0x1 and then the letters SM-G900MD where I was to ecpect SM-G900FD. As I was curious, I flashed them anyway after finding this thread and the device booted successfully.
Now I ask myself, if this action made this device support the bands of the FD instead the ones of the MD. Unfortunately, I can not test it, as I have no LTE enabled SIM nor have I an idea to test the support of a single band.
Maybe there is someone who has an idea...
Best and thanks for your efforts!
mrcbo

[SM-J5108] Convert my J5 SM-J5108 to a more usable version ? (510F ?)

Hello,
My title may not be very cler but I can't find any custom ROMs for my device the J5 SM-J5108CHM (J5 China Mobile version) I can find official firmware but I just hate the interface, I found a really good-looking ROM (VIperOS) but it was for another variant of the phone.
So my question is : can I convert this phone to some other variant with same specs ? Thanks in advance
I've got the same question but no one seems to go to this thread if anyone has an answer to this that would be very appreciated. the j5108 seems to have all the same specs as the other variants so it should work but I'm not taking any risks because this is my everyday phone.
also the china mobile os is complete rubbish use this one (im a new user so i cant post link but just search up updato (dot) com, go to search bar and search j5108, in teh filters bar up top choose hong kong and press update under the search bar)
First, install any lollipop update (if you skip straight to marshmallow you'll end up in a bootloop), and then install either OTA update (it keeps failing for people but its good if you don't want to use Odin again) or you can download the marshmallow os after you install lollipop (make sure to NOT do a factory reset etc you'll end up in a boot loop). Install MM os and boom GAPPS and everything else you'll need.
jeff the cheff's left nut said:
I've got the same question but no one seems to go to this thread if anyone has an answer to this that would be very appreciated. the j5108 seems to have all the same specs as the other variants so it should work but I'm not taking any risks because this is my everyday phone.
also the china mobile os is complete rubbish use this one (im a new user so i cant post link but just search up updato (dot) com, go to search bar and search j5108, in teh filters bar up top choose hong kong and press update under the search bar)
First, install any lollipop update (if you skip straight to marshmallow you'll end up in a bootloop), and then install either OTA update (it keeps failing for people but its good if you don't want to use Odin again) or you can download the marshmallow os after you install lollipop (make sure to NOT do a factory reset etc you'll end up in a boot loop). Install MM os and boom GAPPS and everything else you'll need.
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You can't. Its a different phone. Maybe you think because it says J5 chinese version that its the same thing, just different model number. There are reasons why ot has a different model number, baseband, etc... Its like you have the Samsung Galaxy S2 with exynos and the American one with SD. They are both S2, but totaly different phones.
does xda have a word cap or did my other post not post because it was long or is the image verification a post-verification. anyway, i was saying that all the j5 2016 variants are exactly the same which in theory would allow any model's OS to work on any variant. S2 isn't a great comparison because different models have different hardware while j5 2016 has different models with identical hardware. Just search up j5108 specs and j510x specs and they'll all be the same ill post back in a few weeks when I get a new battery and test out different OS (rn I'm using the stock hong kong OS). I'll try OS for different PDAs and then ill try out different models. Btw all the spec sites say the variants are compatible with Australia so I shouldn't have a problem using different models OS in Australia (meaning 4G, wifi, phone numbers etc should be fine).
Also please explain in more depth why j5 2016 variants are so different to the point that they have different model numbers (i know that sounds passive aggressive and pretend it isn't I honestly want to know). I'm super sorry if I sound like an arrogant **** that wants everything his way but the way the j5 2016 models are made they all seem identical and logically (and in theory) the other variants OS should work on the j5108. if for some reason I cant see my first reply but others can I'm so sorry for this post.
jeff the cheff's left nut said:
does xda have a word cap or did my other post not post because it was long or is the image verification a post-verification. anyway, i was saying that all the j5 2016 variants are exactly the same which in theory would allow any model's OS to work on any variant. S2 isn't a great comparison because different models have different hardware while j5 2016 has different models with identical hardware. Just search up j5108 specs and j510x specs and they'll all be the same ill post back in a few weeks when I get a new battery and test out different OS (rn I'm using the stock hong kong OS). I'll try OS for different PDAs and then ill try out different models. Btw all the spec sites say the variants are compatible with Australia so I shouldn't have a problem using different models OS in Australia (meaning 4G, wifi, phone numbers etc should be fine).
Also please explain in more depth why j5 2016 variants are so different to the point that they have different model numbers (i know that sounds passive aggressive and pretend it isn't I honestly want to know). I'm super sorry if I sound like an arrogant **** that wants everything his way but the way the j5 2016 models are made they all seem identical and logically (and in theory) the other variants OS should work on the j5108. if for some reason I cant see my first reply but others can I'm so sorry for this post.
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Phones today can have the same harware, same SoC, same RAM, same everything, even the same RIL preferences, but they are different models. The whole stock software was made for a specific device model. The J510FN is different than the J510H, if there was no difference why would Samsung bother to make many versions? The whole operating system, every part of it: Kernel, Apps, Recovery, Hal, Bootloader are mannualy made for a specific model number. Because of that it is hard to make a ROM that supports all of the phones in one Samsung model family lineup. You see now that by pure logic the j508 is very different from the J510FN

Old newbie help!

Hi all,
It's been a long, long while since I tinkered with roms, I think my last one was either a Samsung Galaxy Tab (the original one!) or an HTC Sensation.
So I've recently acquired a Note 4 n910F and can't stand all of the Samsung bloatware, and I'd like a newer version of android for compatibility with newer apps.
So remind me... What does 'stock' mean? Is this as Samsung intended, or as android intended? I'd just like a vanilla as possible android experience that works well.
Help please!
richuu said:
Hi all,
It's been a long, long while since I tinkered with roms, I think my last one was either a Samsung Galaxy Tab (the original one!) or an HTC Sensation.
So I've recently acquired a Note 4 n910F and can't stand all of the Samsung bloatware, and I'd like a newer version of android for compatibility with newer apps.
So remind me... What does 'stock' mean? Is this as Samsung intended, or as android intended? I'd just like a vanilla as possible android experience that works well.
Help please!
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Hey! I don't know if you've already found your answers but I thought I would respond in case you haven't.
In almost every reference you see in this section of xda "stock" is referring to the TouchWiz OS that Samsung phones are shipped with.
True android stock is referred to as "vanilla" like you said.
I use a different model Note 4 than you have but from what I've read it's fairly easy to flash TWRP (custom recovery) on the F model via Odin and from there you can pick from whichever rom suits you. Just be sure you're in the Snapdragon section. There are many different models of the Note 4 and some of them have a different processor called Exynos. The roms are processor specific and you can only use the ones built for your type which is the Snapdragon processor.
One other thing I wound suggest, because of the different variants of the F model, is to take notice of your CSC code. Once you start flashing other roms it may be hard to track down the original code. Use this app to see what it is and that way you can flash the appropriate modem file (or if you need to reflash your stock firmware) instead of just using whichever modem file is provided in the OP of the rom you're flashing. There are many different variants of the F model with many different country codes, just remember that just because the firmware has a newer release date doesn't mean it's the correct version.
TWRP- Found here
Samsung USB drivers for Windows. Needed to connect your phone to your PC- Found here
Odin download- Found here
Development section for Snapdragon- Found here
Fantastic response, thank you. I think I'd like to do without TouchWiz... Pretty much all of my previous phones have been HTC, which either had the HTC skin over it, which was fairly unobtrusive, or barely anything at all. The current version of android and TW on the note 4 is messy.

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