I have about 10-15 apps I always end up installing for every new rom. I was wondering if I could just use this method to create an update.zip so I could just load it from recovery after I load a rom. I tried and for the most part (swype excluded) the apps installed ok, but i noticed if I wanted to remove them I could not. I am guessing its because I put the apk in the system/app folder. can i put it in another folder to make it appear just as if it was installed from the market? I don't see any apps installed anywhere else to be honest?
I'm not to sure about the update script but I just use Titanium Backup to reinstall all my apps. Just download it from marketplace and run a app backup. So after I install a new Rom I just redownload titanium from the market place and restore all apps. Then I can uninstall an app or delete it from the backup. Not really sure if this helps you but trying to help others out.
ejkeebler said:
I have about 10-15 apps I always end up installing for every new rom. I was wondering if I could just use this method to create an update.zip so I could just load it from recovery after I load a rom. I tried and for the most part (swype excluded) the apps installed ok, but i noticed if I wanted to remove them I could not. I am guessing its because I put the apk in the system/app folder. can i put it in another folder to make it appear just as if it was installed from the market? I don't see any apps installed anywhere else to be honest?
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If you did something like this you would lose all data associated with those apps such as settings, game saves, etc. Best thing is Titanium backup. Also if you installed the apps without going through the market, you wont get updates.
i think if you put them in /data/app they can be uninstalled so make an update.zip that places them there
You can use ti backup to make an update.zip
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I guess i'll stick with Titanium Backup. I'll have to look into the update.zip option from there, but if it doesnt restore data, kind of a wasted step. I'll have to buckle down and look at it today. It seems kind of cumbersome going through each app 1 at a time, and don't think I want an every app restore. I imagine there's got to be an option where you can select only certain apps....thanks!
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If you did something like this you would lose all data associated with those apps such as settings, game saves, etc. Best thing is Titanium backup. Also if you installed the apps without going through the market, you wont get updates.
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Unless you also threw the corresponding db's from /data/data in there. Then you would (like you said) run into Market problems without a restore of the vending prefs and databases. Like yourself and everyone before said...use Titanium.
Titanium Tip:
1. Create a folder in root of sdcard. For example /sdcard/Reinstall
2. Go to Titanium's settings and make Reinstall your backup folder
3. Backup the apps you want to keep for restore.
4. Go back to settings and change to your regular backup folder so you don't populate your reinstall folder with unwanted apps.
5. After a wipe, download Titanium (Titanium also has an option to create an update.zip of itself so you can install it in recovery before 1st boot).
6. Go to Titanium and change backup folder to Reinstall.
7. Batch restore (donate only) or manually restore the contents.
8. Remember to change backup folder again.
I do this for system apps/settings across different roms also. For instance, I have a DesireSys folder and a FroyoSys folder. Learn to use the filters, makes life much easier.
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Unless you also threw the corresponding db's from /data/data in there. Then you would (like you said) run into Market problems without a restore of the vending prefs and databases. Like yourself and everyone before said...use Titanium.
Titanium Tip:
1. Create a folder in root of sdcard. For example /sdcard/Reinstall
2. Go to Titanium's settings and make Reinstall your backup folder
3. Backup the apps you want to keep for restore.
4. Go back to settings and change to your regular backup folder so you don't populate your reinstall folder with unwanted apps.
5. After a wipe, download Titanium (Titanium also has an option to create an update.zip of itself so you can install it in recovery before 1st boot).6. Go to Titanium and change backup folder to Reinstall.
7. Batch restore (donate only) or manually restore the contents.
8. Remember to change backup folder again.
I do this for system apps/settings across different roms also. For instance, I have a DesireSys folder and a FroyoSys folder. Learn to use the filters, makes life much easier.
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Excellent! I've been downloading it after each install. I thought there had to be an easier way.
I have a friend over on the east coast that isnt following direction as well as one would hope and is a little scared about rooting his phone and getting it to be as good as my X is. I finally got it rooted for him but he is freaking out about using a clean nandroid backup i sent him and dumping it in the correct directory for nandroid backup and restore giving him a clean image of my phone...
I had assumed that this would have been the easiest method but it got me thinking.
Could i rename my nandroid back up folder the ending tree folder that holds the .android_secure.img, cache.img, data.img, nandroid.md5 and system.img ... like clockworkmod/backup/2010-11-25.05.05.13 could i just pop all those files into a .zip named whatever and direct him to clockwork recovery and flash zip from sd card?
Or could someone point me into a direction on how to accomplish that? I think i would like to also do it for my self and upload it to my dropbox account for later access or to share with friends.
I noticed when i opened like the latest rubix rom that it didnt contain any files similar to that so im curious if its possible.
Also one last question, while i have your technicle mind at attention..
Could someone answer me, in Titanium backup it gives you the option to create a update.zip, then it gives you two radio buttons one says titanium backup will be installed as user application and then System application.
I know that the whole create update.zip thing is for flashing it to the rom from recovery. But what is the diffrence bewteen those two options. What is best and what is the diffrence..
Thanks for letting me pick your Brains!
One drawback of giving him your nandroid backup is that it contains YOUR gmail account with your contacts, facebook account (if applicable), among all other sorts of your personal stuff. In my past experience, you can ADD a gmail account to the phone, but you cannot get rid of the primary/original account so he will have both on there. Other than that, it actually does work though (at least it did on the Droid 1).
Wipe your data and make a nandroid before you reboot and sign in. that way your accounts won't be tied to it
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Your friend - with all due respect if he's having that much trouble with something this simple I really don't think he should be screwing around with root access in the first place. If he has that little understanding of administrator-level access, why on earth does he even want root? He won't even know what to do with it.
Not trying to be harsh, just trying to understand.
Flash Nandroid - NO, don't do it! I'm sure it can be done, but not in the way you described.
Titanium Backup - system apps reside in /system/app as opposed to /data/app. The only real difference is that system apps will still be there after you do a factory reset.
If your going to let your friend flash a nandroid, then you need to remove your gmail and social applications. If you wipe data as mentioned above you'll lose all non-system apps...basically everything you've installed and set up, which is most likely what you're trying to give him. The only way I can think to make this work is to first create a backup for your use, then remove everything that requires you to log in with adb, then replace all of the apps you removed (extract the rom your running and look in system/app for them - data/app apps can be installed from the market). Reboot the phone to verify that all of your accounts are gone, create the new backup and send it to him. Then flash the backup you made for your use.
The easiest way to give him "your set up" would probably be to make a full backup with titanium (not an update.zip). Backup all user apps and system data. Go into the titanium folder on your sd card and delete all files except the .apk files that have anything to do with gmail or social apps. Have him flash the same rom, copy your titanium file to his sd card, and restore all apps and system data to his phone.
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I used titanium backup to backup the new Swipe before removing it. I went to restore it and there is a checkbox next to the item, instead of the other logo. Basically the restore feature is grayed out for most items I backed up? I went to the directory the backup uses and there is a compressed file for swipe. If I open it, I see some data, but no apk file.
Question 1st is how do I find the apk to restore this?
Question 2 is why can't I restore all backed up files via titanium (paid version)? Scares me to think I was safe using this product.
Use astro and hit the search button. Type swype with no spaces and search. You might find the apk that way.
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Well I just discovered something strange with most Apps backed up with titanium. If I click on a file that I backed up (say swipe from last update) and uninstalled via titanium, and I get a message that data was backed up, and but no apk present. Sure enough, if I click on the archived swipe file, I see a data file and folder and no apk. Why would titanium backup some files completely and partially with others?
Also, without doing a nand restore, which I really don't want to start from square one, how can I get the swipe apk from the last OTA? SwiftKey has been unreliable since their past two updates?
Thanks
Pull the APK from a stock rooted ROM's zip file.
TB usually won't backup /system apps because, y'know, they're in the non-writable system partition. Normally, they're still there, and normally, you don't mess with stuff in /system, nor should you copy stuff over from one ROM to another if it's a system app.
After Google Services drying up my monthly data cap trying to download 4.3, I thought I'd move from PACman v23 to the new Paranoid Android 3.92 as it had 4.3. I thought I did all the right things. I backed up in Rom Manager, copied the file across to my PC. I ran a fresh backup of everything in Titanium Backup and copied that all across to my PC too.
I did a factory reset/data wipe and flashed bootloader/modem/rom/gapps as instructed and got the latest Paranoid Android running. I copy across my TB backup directory and I install TitaniumBackup from the market place. I go restore missing apps, and then... it just hangs on the first app. Read a little online, change the restore mode to "Interactive", doesn't fix it. Go back to the normal setting. I run Verify Backups, and to my surprise, it says there are errors with ALL my backup files. I get pissed, decide perhaps I should've just created a flashable zip. So I say no problem. I'm persistent. I'll create a backup of Paranoid Android, reflash my PACman backup, redo my Titanium Backup, and then reflash my Paranoid Android backup and apply the TB backup zip. So I Copy my PACman zip file, choose Install ZIP from sdcard, select the PACman zip and boom... MD5 verification failed.
I realise I had some Titanium Backup essentials backup on Google Drive and Dropbox, so I copy them over. Point TB to that directory, but the same problem persists. It just hangs.
I've been copying across the same TB folder between various ROM installations with no issues, and I'm not sure what is causing the issue here. I suspect it is either the bootloader and radio (which was what has been the extra step compared to installing other roms) but I don't want to admit that now all my backups are completely useless.
Am I missing something here? Anyone have any suggestions?
TL;DR I can't seem to get any TB backups to restore on my newly flashed Paranoid Android rom.
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After Google Services drying up my monthly data cap trying to download 4.3, I thought I'd move from PACman v23 to the new Paranoid Android 3.92 as it had 4.3. I thought I did all the right things. I backed up in Rom Manager, copied the file across to my PC. I ran a fresh backup of everything in Titanium Backup and copied that all across to my PC too.
I did a factory reset/data wipe and flashed bootloader/modem/rom/gapps as instructed and got the latest Paranoid Android running. I copy across my TB backup directory and I install TitaniumBackup from the market place. I go restore missing apps, and then... it just hangs on the first app. Read a little online, change the restore mode to "Interactive", doesn't fix it. Go back to the normal setting. I run Verify Backups, and to my surprise, it says there are errors with ALL my backup files. I get pissed, decide perhaps I should've just created a flashable zip. So I say no problem. I'm persistent. I'll create a backup of Paranoid Android, reflash my PACman backup, redo my Titanium Backup, and then reflash my Paranoid Android backup and apply the TB backup zip. So I Copy my PACman zip file, choose Install ZIP from sdcard, select the PACman zip and boom... MD5 verification failed.
I realise I had some Titanium Backup essentials backup on Google Drive and Dropbox, so I copy them over. Point TB to that directory, but the same problem persists. It just hangs.
I've been copying across the same TB folder between various ROM installations with no issues, and I'm not sure what is causing the issue here. I suspect it is either the bootloader and radio (which was what has been the extra step compared to installing other roms) but I don't want to admit that now all my backups are completely useless.
Am I missing something here? Anyone have any suggestions?
TL;DR I can't seem to get any TB backups to restore on my newly flashed Paranoid Android rom.
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Do you have the latest version of Titanium Backup, that supports Android 4.3?
mversion said:
After Google Services drying up my monthly data cap trying to download 4.3, I thought I'd move from PACman v23 to the new Paranoid Android 3.92 as it had 4.3. I thought I did all the right things. I backed up in Rom Manager, copied the file across to my PC. I ran a fresh backup of everything in Titanium Backup and copied that all across to my PC too.
I did a factory reset/data wipe and flashed bootloader/modem/rom/gapps as instructed and got the latest Paranoid Android running. I copy across my TB backup directory and I install TitaniumBackup from the market place. I go restore missing apps, and then... it just hangs on the first app. Read a little online, change the restore mode to "Interactive", doesn't fix it. Go back to the normal setting. I run Verify Backups, and to my surprise, it says there are errors with ALL my backup files. I get pissed, decide perhaps I should've just created a flashable zip. So I say no problem. I'm persistent. I'll create a backup of Paranoid Android, reflash my PACman backup, redo my Titanium Backup, and then reflash my Paranoid Android backup and apply the TB backup zip. So I Copy my PACman zip file, choose Install ZIP from sdcard, select the PACman zip and boom... MD5 verification failed.
I realise I had some Titanium Backup essentials backup on Google Drive and Dropbox, so I copy them over. Point TB to that directory, but the same problem persists. It just hangs.
I've been copying across the same TB folder between various ROM installations with no issues, and I'm not sure what is causing the issue here. I suspect it is either the bootloader and radio (which was what has been the extra step compared to installing other roms) but I don't want to admit that now all my backups are completely useless.
Am I missing something here? Anyone have any suggestions?
TL;DR I can't seem to get any TB backups to restore on my newly flashed Paranoid Android rom.
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I'm having the same issues. Best luck I had is to install the latest SuperSU(PA uses an integrated superuser) and then restore my apps one by one. Some work and others don't. It's a problem with 4.3/TB and SU which hopefully will be resolved. Most of my games worked but Nova launcher did not. I was also in indirect mode when restoring them.
You have to change the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. You can change it in Menu/Preferences within TiBu.
I think I screwed something up before. Just did a factory reset, installed latest SuperSU and changed app installation to indirect mode. Everything restored flawlessly after that.
Here is the reply for anyone having similar issues which is explained easily in details
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z12rw1urfveawxfxm04cjl1aoor5ezninhc
johnie5 said:
Here is the reply for anyone having similar issues which is explained easily in details
https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z12rw1urfveawxfxm04cjl1aoor5ezninhc
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Thanks.
I installed stock 4.3, had to flash the latest SuperSU to get root, and found that all my Titanium Backup files were A-OK. Perhaps it is just a matter of the latest SuperSU and the TB workaround detailed on that link:
...Titanium Backup is an example of such an app. It may incorrectly detect the path to your internal storage for backups, and thus crash on backup/restore. You can fix this by going into preferences and selecting a folder under /storage/emulated/legacy as backup/restore path, not under /storage/emulated/0.
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I'll reinstall PA3.92 and try again.
Last update: Installing the latest Paranoid Android 3.94 and putting my Titanium Backup folder in the legacy folder detailed above has given me a working solution.
Mercado_Negro said:
You have to change the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. You can change it in Menu/Preferences within TiBu.
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Thanks for the solution!! I've been trying to restore stuff for hours.
Happy I found a solution. I too spent way too long getting Titanium Backup to restore apps. And once I found this solution, implementing the folder change isn't just ticking a box or adding an entry. But all's well now. Really enjoying my first taste of Paranoid Android - lots of settings to figure out. I was having dpi/resolution issues with Simpson's Tapped Out and PA will give me several solution options. Thanks everyone!
mversion said:
Thanks.
I installed stock 4.3, had to flash the latest SuperSU to get root, and found that all my Titanium Backup files were A-OK. Perhaps it is just a matter of the latest SuperSU and the TB workaround detailed on that link:
I'll reinstall PA3.92 and try again.
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I was having restore problems with Titanium Backup and installed SuperSU from the play store after reading this and then allowed it to update the binaries through CWM.
All my backups are now restoring fine!
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You have to change the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. You can change it in Menu/Preferences within TiBu.
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This worked for me, too, on two different ROMs on my HTC One. I can't believe how easy it was after I tried to figure out a solution for about two hours. Thanks!!!
Mercado_Negro said:
You have to change the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. You can change it in Menu/Preferences within TiBu.
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That's a bingo!
here is what I did (nexus 7 FLO)
menu - > preferences -> Backup folder location -> DETECT
choose /legacy instead of /0/something or other
It will ask to move the data
select yes
restore away
Mercado_Negro said:
You have to change the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. You can change it in Menu/Preferences within TiBu.
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This was much appreciated. I simply switched the backup folder location from /storage/emulated/0 to /storage/emulated/legacy instead. Problem Solved. No Rebooting, no installing SuperSU or anything. I've spent two hours trying to restore my backups (the one time, I forgot to create the flash zips with all my backups and the one time I didn't have space to create a Nandroid,) and now I'm good to Go.
Mercado_Negro said:
You have to change the backups folder to storage/emulated/legacy in 4.3 to be able to restore your applications. You can change it in Menu/Preferences within TiBu.
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Thanks , worked perfect :good:
Xentar712 said:
I'm having the same issues. Best luck I had is to install the latest SuperSU(PA uses an integrated superuser) and then restore my apps one by one. Some work and others don't. It's a problem with 4.3/TB and SU which hopefully will be resolved. Most of my games worked but Nova launcher did not. I was also in indirect mode when restoring them.
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Thank you. I've had a few reinstalls now where I've had to redirect TiBu to the "Legacy" path but this time with Carbon rom I also had to update SuperSU, then let SuperSU update the binary through CWM before I could restore anything.
Edit: Also if you're having problems figuring out how to change Titanium Backup's default path in preferences, your phone/tablet's Back button (beside the home button) will move you up through directories in the "select backup folder" dialog. This one had me stuck for awhile so maybe this info will help someone else.
Even changing it to legacy I am unable to get TiBU to restore. I have even made it navigate to the Titanium Backup Folder where I can see all my apps and system data backed up but it won't load it to restore for some reason.
Any suggestions?
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Even changing it to legacy I am unable to get TiBU to restore. I have even made it navigate to the Titanium Backup Folder where I can see all my apps and system data backed up but it won't load it to restore for some reason.
Any suggestions?
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Yes, flash superSU:
http://download.chainfire.eu/351/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.zip
droidgren said:
Yes, flash superSU:
http://download.chainfire.eu/351/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.65.zip
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Already had. I just set it up again from scratch. Wasn't that bad to be honest.
Titanium Backup was updated today to version 6.1.1. It uses the /legacy path now by default for ROMs using Superuser. You shouldn't run into problems anymore.
On my Nexus 7 (5.1.1) I'm trying to transfer data from one user profile to another using Titanium Backup. SU is set to allow multiple users. So, TB has root access on each user. I've also made sure that the sd card writing bug was taken care of. (I tried Helium, but the app said that helium was only available for use by the main user, and the profiles I'm trying to work with are not my main user).
When I backup an app, the TB backup folder only containts the .properties text file. I do not see the tar.gz or apk.gz file. (Also don't see the Tibkp file). In TB, when I "backup" an app, the backup runs like normal and the app shows that I have a backup. But if I close and restart TB, for the same app, there is no backup available.
Anyway, dunno if this is the right place to ask. But I 'm a bit stuck.