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I was wondering, if I constantly am killing running process and they are always reloading (voice input, settings, gmail, market, etc), will this drain my battery faster? I'm at 76% with light use from a full charge and the phones been unplugged for around 4 1/2 hours.
That seems normal. mine usually dies within 6 hours, with all settings off. i think i need a new one. under battery settings it says display used 67 % of my battery life and for display time on it says 28 minutes
I've got my display using 73% followed by live wallpaper with 6%.
I mean Display% being higher just means you were actively using your phone more... or you set your timeout too high.
I don't think the actual restarting of the apps uses more battery vs them just running in the background all the time. Unless for some reason they restart almost instantly and you are constantly mashing the kill all apps button then maybe?
As far as your phone dying in 6 hours, that does not sound right at all. Mine definitely goes quite a bit longer than 6 hours consistently. It is currently at 38% battery after 17 hours 24m, with display having used 46% with 55m24s on. Part of that was while it was full brightness when I was outside. I have been at work though so its largely been sitting on my desk. Even when I first got it and was playing with it a ton it went well over 6 hours on a charge.
Some people do seem to have problems with battery life and I can only assume there's a bunch of bad batteries out there, or they are really hammering it..
I used about 25% in 6 hours today from normal usage* and that's even after driving around for half an hour streaming last.fm over bluetooth via 3G.. Sync switched on, wifi off, twitdroid running in the background. The only special thing I have is the setcpu idle tweak.
* Fair bit of browsing, some twitter, the usual 'ooh look you have a google phone' impromptu demos..
Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
Are you playing with the phone a lot? Like is your display always on? 4hrs still seems extream to me, I am rooted and runninng a custom rom, but even when I wasnt I never managed to get through the battery that quickly, and I use the phone a lot
Here's what I do to get good battery... I only keep backlight on like the a ****as hair..lol barely unless outside...... widgets are cool n all, but if there constantly updating thats polling your battery, live wallpapers are cool, but a battery drainer, I also keep gps, locations and bluetooth off unless using them, wifi also.. also the background applications setting uses battery but if ya want updating widgets no way around that...
Also look in seetings about phone, battery use and see what's eating your battery, I use my phone hours at a time so my display is most my battery drain which is normal, everything else is like 7 percent or less, mostly 2 or 3 percent. ....
I think thats all I do, but you may keep stuff on like widgets and that unfortunately eats battery..
I am running everything in my Sig. I have had my N1 for about 2 months now right around that. After a 14 to 16hr day with some heavy to mild usage I am still over 50%, but then again I have 3g turned off and i am only on Edge all the time since i am always around WiFi. So i would tell you 4 hours is a bit extreme but hang in there it does get better. I remember being around 25% for the 1st few weeks until it got better. Other wise do what Temperbad said that is the best way to go. Only widget i am running that updates every hour is my Weather one. Turn the screen all the way down unless it other wise needs to be up. I am sure that is what is killing your battery. Mine is always on the lowest setting until i am outside.
Sadly I'm rooted, but I will state my percentage too.
Weirdly, my display usage is only 15% on Paul's Desire ROM. Honestly I dont see how this may be - but that is what it says. My brightness is quite high too..
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
DarkDvr said:
Yeah, I'm well aware about widgets and battery drain regarding 3G and all that, I've had PDAs for quite a while.
For comparison, my old and ****ty TP2 would drain about 30-40% of its battery with same usage that would drain my N1 dry.
I do remember that LiIons get better in a week or so of usage, but I wanted to hear what you guys are getting. Would love to hear from someone who's just bought an N1 like me.
It's under full warranty, so I'm not worried too much. Just an inconvenience.
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I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
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I have my display set to "Auto Brightness," have a display timeout of 1 minute, have my email get synced every hour, and also use a live wallpaper.
My display accounts for 63% of battery usage.
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Thanks, this info I can use.
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Auto brightness will use more battery than keeping it low. Cause its constantly checking light density through the sensor to give it the correct lighting...
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I've read otherwise, though I don't think that Auto Brightness is the optimal battery saving setting.
Obviously it's a middle ground between max and low.
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
pikipirs said:
Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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Wow... that's some serious battery life.
Ok, some questions..
1. screen brightness setting?
2. how long have u had that phone (battery) for? Did it improve over time?
3. Is it rooted/flashed or stock rom?
4. you got any syncing widgets running (RSS/twidroid)? Live wallpaper?
Thanks a bunch for your input!
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 13 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
ghostrida said:
45% - Display
22% - Cell Standby
17% - Voice Calls
5% - Idle
3% - Android System
2% - Wi-fi
Just one comment. I keep Wi-fi and GPS on all day because Wi-fi sleeps when the screen is off and only polls when the screen is on if you're not using it. GPS is only used when your location is required in an application. i dont know why people are always like "you have to turn these off to get good battery life" (Notice wi-fi is 2%)
also i've been running 8 hours with moderate to heavy use (internet, music, phone calls etc) and I'm @ 40%. The drain from 70% - 40% seems to go so slow compared to 100% - 70%.
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Sweet, thanks for the info. It seems my battery is also slowly "training" its way closer to these numbers.
DarkDvr said:
I agree, but disabling that, disabling GPS, WiFi, turning off 3G, killing all widgets.. ok yeah my phone will last me 2 hours longer, but it's also boring as hell.
Might as well go pick up a simple nokia for $10 - battery will last for weeks, but what's the point..
Not saying your advise is bad, it's a good idea.. just that all these advices to turn everything off - what's the point of even having a PDA then..
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Your right... about the updating widgets and wallpaper, they do make the phone funner.. but why need gps on when not using, or bluetooth, or wifi? Just simply turn them on when using...
So much going on with this phone I can say its good pretty decent battery....
Anyone know how to make my gmail sync every hour instead of instantly?
When I got my Nexus my battery was just as poor, but after using it for a couple of weeks I'm getting about 10 hours usage with medium brightness, WiFi, and gps.
So just give it some time and it should fix it itself.
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Here's a report of my usage today:
~Wifi and 3G both turned on the whole time
~30 mins of MP3s with head phones
~20 mins of 3G tethering over Bluetooth
~40 mins of apps usage (mostly the Browser and the Gallery)
~8 mins of talk time
one 1 min update through the bootloader
have gmail sync turned on, also twidroid syncs every 15 mins
The Battery use app shows:
54% Display (active 6% of the time)
16% Cell standby
14% Phone idle
4% Wifi (active 51.6% of the time)
4% Android System
Right now 14h26' since unplugged, still having 43% of the battery left. The battery meter says 12 more hours until 0%.
All things considered, the battery life is quite good on my N1.
Edit: forgot to mention, the display is set to the middle setting with the Power widget, no auto brightness
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What battery meter do you use to tell the amount of hours left?
DarkDvr said:
Maybe my battery is not trained yet, but so far, on my 2-days old n1, battey lasts for 4 hours (mid. backlight, no wifi, very little use).
Still running stock rom and not planning on rooting.
What I noticed is that in my battery drain stats show Display contributing to 80% of total drain. That's with display being on mid setting... is that normal? What is yours (esepecially for people with stock roms)?
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Your phone or battery is defective. Call HTC for a replacement.
Hi everyone. I had NAND installed on my HD2 now for about a month and a half. One of the things that I haven't seen on my phone is better battery life. This is the first phone I have with a data plan so I'm really not sure how much of the battery drains with data. Here is my daily routine. I charge my phone overnight, by 11am-12pm my phone is just about dead. I put it on the charger until about 4pm; usually it's fully charged by then. By the time 10pm comes around it's almost dead again. Doesn't seem like good battery life to me. Someone please let me know if I'm missing something.
Thank you all!
Depends on what you're doing with your hd2.
If you spend a lot of time on the internet with either wifi or 3g, then that drains battery pretty quickly, as with any device. Playing games or watching videos is the same thing, although to a hiigher extent with games. Keeping the phone screen on is also one way to drain battery quickly.
You should install current widget and monitor your standby times, etc. In standy by, your phone should be consuming 4~6 mA ideally.
If you want to monitor your battery usage, first download and install CurrentWidget, enable logging while the phone is on standby to see your standby usage.
Second, need to check battery usage on standby after a call, there are some kernels with a known bug that prevents the phone from going to sleep, consuming 60ma on standby.
Third, Do a battery calibration, it does help a lot if you have never calibrated your battery, android tend to mess up battery reading after a while of not being calibrated. There's a thread about in on forums, search for it, REALLY good info there.
Fourth! check out if you are in a zone with crappy 3G, if the phone has to turn 2g/3g off and on too often it drains battery like whoa.
Fifth, take note of max and min voltage readings with CurrentWidget, your battery might by wearing out (should be maxing at 4.2v and min around 3.3v - 3.6v depending on kernel).
Another thing, before your phone dies, check out battery usage on Settings, see if any program is eating your battery, and check out how long has your screen been on, and post it here
I've always had WAY better battery in Android, even SD, than WMo, MSN/push email killed battery in WMo in about 6 hours, without use, just standby. Android get up to 4 days in standby with Gtalk/Gmail/Exchange Mail, all on Push, along with weather and twitter. With hardcore usage, the battery last between 6 and 7 hours top (Screen on for 4-5 hours), while Gaming, it wont last more than 4 hours (CPU at 100%, Screen always on, GPU at 100%, Brightness 100%).
Normal usage (between 40 mins and 1 hour of Google Maps with GPS on, between 3 and 4 hours of music thru Bluetooth with my car, 10-15 mins talking, about 20-30 SMSs and quite a bit of Gtalk) it makes it thru the day, lasting about 12-14 hours.
Such a low battery life is probably cause your phone is not going to sleep, it should be at 2-5 mah on standby.
Hope it helps
I can play an hour of pokemon (gba rom), listen to pandora whenever im in the car, surf the net for an hour or two, and with a total constant usage of about 5 hours, and at the end of the day ill be left with 30% battery still.
If I don't use it often it will last 40 hours +.
Maybe try a different nand rom?
Im running hyperdroid nand
Zephyrot and kangpeter, Im jealous of your battery life. I'll try what was posted. Thanks for the replies!
Hello everybody, i bought my Nexus 4 2 days ago. Well, it comes with android 4.2.2, then i updated to android 4.3
But i have a problem, the screen leaves 43%-50% of the battery.
The minimum is 43% of screen battery usage. And the bright is at the middle, its not the maximum.
Can someone help me? If i use 3g/wifi or play a game the battery finish in just 12 hours...
Just wifi + standby sometimes 15 hours..
Thanks to all.
That's fairly normal. Screen will be the highest unless you make a lot of voice calls or listen to a lot of music.
No, its not normal.. I was charging my phone and now i removed the charger (full charged) and the screen was with 81% battery usage but after 2 minutes it down to 51%-55% at the time im writing this answer its 55%
In 10 minutes just with wifi on is 96% now.
Thats so bad.
My advice
Rooted Stock.
hmm its 62%, well, i think its not normal, well lets wait google make a new update..
Now i restarted my phone and the screen battery usage is 7% lol.. this is crazy.
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hmm its 62%, well, i think its not normal, well lets wait google make a new update..
Now i restarted my phone and the screen battery usage is 7% lol.. this is crazy.
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Yes, 62% in 16h 17m
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xsasuke said:
Hello everybody, i bought my Nexus 4 2 days ago. Well, it comes with android 4.2.2, then i updated to android 4.3
But i have a problem, the screen leaves 43%-50% of the battery.
The minimum is 43% of screen battery usage. And the bright is at the middle, its not the maximum.
Can someone help me? If i use 3g/wifi or play a game the battery finish in just 12 hours...
Just wifi + standby sometimes 15 hours..
Thanks to all.
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Just disable the: Settings > Location Access > Wi-Fi & Mobile Network Location.
Disabled now. Lets see how it will work.
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Disabled now. Lets see how it will work.
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Remember that disabling that setting means you practically have zero location services working. you're relying on GPS only, so apps like Google Now, weather widgets, etc. will not work.
The analogy I like to use is to solve a leaking pipe issue by shutting off the water main. Sure the leak is stopped, but you're not going to be able to shower or wash your hands. So in the end your water bill is $0 not because you stopped the leak, but because you also stopped doing other things.
I don't doubt you'll stop the battery drain, but we never really fixed the leak. I guess only Google can do that.
Edit: What I also noticed is that if you've already booted up and you disable the location services via Mobile Data/Wifi, then you end up getting 100% wakelocks. I can upload the screenshots after I get off work, but I tried several times resetting CPU Spy and BBS stats and it was 100% wake.
Once again in the water main example, if you turn off the water main while you shower, the water left in your pipes will continue to flow. It's not the same as turning off your shower which cuts off that water to you immediately. What probably happens is you're revoking location services permissions by unchecking the box, but apps like Google Now, Weather Widgets, etc. will continue trying to request for location. Since you've given the apps permission to use location services, it will try, but since there are no location services GPS, it will just continue to wakelock.
A reboot does solve it where I think the app will stop requesting for location services.
I think The main problem is not the location settings
I disabled it and my battery its like enabled.
It drain 5%-10% in 30 minutes or less with just WiFi on.
This is really bad..
I don't think you quite understand what it's displaying.
The battery history shows the percentage used of the battery consumed. So if your battery level states 75% and the screen states 60%, that means out of the power consumed your screen used 60% of it.
In a typical day the bigger percentage your screen uses the better. That means you aren't suffering from wake locks or other battery draining activities.
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Yes, but i think the battery is going a little faster than normal.
If im mistaken sorry.
Solved nexus 4 android 4.3 battery drain
:good: You have to disable in Google Now > Settings > Voice > Hotword detection.
This feature turn on the mic all time and try recognize your voice to do a action.
Just disable that, and the battery will take a good life duration
I made this.
But im having yet the battery drain. I wake up and i take off the charge, it was 100% after 15 minutes with wifi and facebook, whatsapp on the battery drain 5% (95%)
After 7 hours (now) with much use (playing modern combat 4 15 minutes, real boxing 5 mins, dead trigger 5 mins) with 3g always on, the battery is now 41% (now i turned off 3g) is this normal??
Or my battery is really going faster than normal?
Edit: I started to play real boxing for 10 minutes again, the battery was 40% after playing 30%. Wifi and 3g off.
How exactly do you update it to 4.3? Mine's still on 4.2 and I check Software Update in the phone and theres no upate.
Well it was on the software update..
I am running BatteryStat Plus and today I had some runaway usage that kept the phone hot and used a bit of battery
Chrome used 1h 21m of battery & CPU usages and I was not using it but 10 minutes.
Anyone know what Widevine Keybox Test is?
Google Contacts Sync used 1h 43m of Wake Usage and 16m of CPU usage. I don't sync contacts with Google. I turned this off but it was all of a sudden as I have had the phone since Thurs pm.
Just reporting some unusual behavior.