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I smashed the screen on my Tab a few weeks back. While I didn't take a video of the replacement, here are some notes and tips on my experience:
If the glass is cracked but you can still see the display fine (i.e. no rainbow or black ink spills) then it is just your digitizer that is broken. Your top priority at this point is to not break the LCD because the digitizer is relatively cheap (~$35 shipped from China, $60 from the US). This also goes for the picture being fine but the touch not working at all.
Buy a replacement digitizer. I got mine from ebay ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/270938561127 ).
Gather tools:
A clean towel to use for your work area to prevent scratches and scuffs
A little plastic prying tool (likely to come with your ebay order)
A thin and sharp utility knife/razor
A three prong screwdriver. The seller I used sent a few other screwdrivers but not the three prong one. I used one I got from a Nintendo DS repair a while back.
A heat gun will make this a lot easier. I guess a hair blow-dryer might work in a pinch.
I did not see any good videos for the disassembly. The one I watched ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thTt6G27NV8 ) really screwed me over because it didn't show removing two screws first.
Here are my written steps for replacement:
Use a needle to pry out the two caps on either side of the USB charging port
Use the three prong screwdriver to remove those two screws
Insert the pry on the bottom middle between the plastic frame and the glass. Push down firmly so it wedges in up to the L shape.
Slide the pry along from the middle to either end and around the corner. You will feel the frame pop away from the innards.
Continue working the bottom half of the frame apart until you can insert tweezers or something else under the unit and lift it up and out of the frame.
Be careful to lift the bottom half then pull it out away from the top. Otherwise, you will crack the audio port which extends from the unit and fits into the hole in the top of the frame.
Set aside the frame and place the unit on a clean towel. If you have a broken screen, you are going to be dealing with lots of tiny slivers of broken glass.
On the circuitry side of the unit, you will see three big flat ribbon cables. The middle one is the digitizer. Use tweezers or the pry to *gently* lift up the tan colored plastic locking hinge on the far side (opposite the cable). It will pop up and the cable will easily slide out. Go very slow and carefully here. Don't mess with the black plastic because it will chip right off.
Now comes the painful part. Removing the old digitizer. Take a cigarette break if you need one. Maybe a Valium. Basically, almost all of the black trim part of the glass is thick strong glue binding it to the unit. You need to separate this glue to be able to peel the glass digitizer away.
Hold the unit upright with one hand and use the heat gun to loosen up the glue holding the digitizer to the unit. Run it along one edge for less than a minute until the glass is a little too hot to touch.
Quickly insert the razor as close to the glass as you can and about 6 centimeters in. Slide it along the side that you heated. Don't make any prying motions or you'll just crack the glass more.
Continue with the remaining three edges. Heat then separate. You may not make much progress the first time around, but by the second time, you should see the glass starting to peel away. It took me about 5 to 10 minutes per edge and it is grueling work.
Once you can safely peel the entire glass digitizer away from the unit, use the razor to lift up and peel off any of the flat black tape/glue that was left behind. Most of the unit where the glue goes is gray. On the sides there are two parts where you see black plastic. It is okay to leave glue residue as long as it isn't bunched up.
Vacuum up any stray glass slivers. Make sure you set aside tools screws and screw-hole-plugs before vacuuming.
Installing the new digitizer
Use an LCD spray and cleaning cloth to clean your LCD. Don't leave any dust or fingerprints as it will look bad once everything is put back together.
Remove the back covering of your replacement digitizer revealing the glue. Obviously, try not to touch the glue.
Align the digitizer above the unit, make sure the camera hole is on the correct side. Very slowly lower it down and try to have it perfectly in alignment when it touches. You will be able to nudge it a tiny bit, but the glue is strong and if you get it crooked, you are going to have to try to quickly lift it back up without cracking your new digitizer.
Once you have it in place, remove the front protective film and free the new cable. Wrap the cable around to the back and very gently insert it between the contacts then push the locking hinge down.
Testing and reassembly
Power it on and see if it works. Just push down the little metal bump closest to the edge where the power button would be on the frame.
When happy with the test, turn it off again and hold the unit above the frame.
Check the orientation then insert the top part first to fit the audio port into the hole. Line up the rest and then push down on all the edges to snap it into place.
Breathe a deep sigh of relief.
Appreciate the time you put into this, hopefully I never end up in a similar situation.
Could have used some more return key though lol
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Wish I would have read this first. I broke the housing by the 2 bottom screws. Dayum! I haven't touched it since. Supposed to get the digitizer Friday. Wish me luck!
Its really easy to replace the digitiser on WiFi version. Use Stanley knife and hair dryer to loosen it off and remove middle flex cable. Videos on youtube
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Any picture of these 2 screws cause i do not see it on a p4 here.
I still have one here with a cracked glass but it all still works even the touch screen.
But i do not see the screw so a pic would be nice
Opuske said:
Any picture of these 2 screws cause i do not see it on a p4 here.
I still have one here with a cracked glass but it all still works even the touch screen.
But i do not see the screw so a pic would be nice
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They are covered by plugs on either side of the charge port. Gotta pry the plugs out first.
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Ok so i am on a mission this weekend then to try and do that then
Opuske said:
Ok so i am on a mission this weekend then to try and do that then
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One tip: be really careful not to touch the inside surface of the glass. I ended up with a fingerprint on the inside that drives me nuts every time I clean the screen. Wear gloves if you've got them.
Otherwise it was no sweat. I used this as a guide but with a hair dryer instead of a heat gun.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUI2gDQbdDY&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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Quick question
I really found this post very helpful, but I do have one question. What if when I was trying to pry the tab up to pull out the digitizer, I cracked the black plactic on the other side. Would this cause the new digitizer not to work when I finished replacing everything and put it back together?
Best tutorial on the web (much better than those godawful youtube videos).
Thank you!
Did u get an answer??? I need to
AylaAtreides said:
I really found this post very helpful, but I do have one question. What if when I was trying to pry the tab up to pull out the digitizer, I cracked the black plactic on the other side. Would this cause the new digitizer not to work when I finished replacing everything and put it back together?
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Did you get an answer??? I did the same thing...
DEinspanjer said:
I smashed the screen on my Tab a few weeks back. While I didn't take a video of the replacement, here are some notes and tips on my experience:
[*]If the glass is cracked but you can still see the display fine (i.e. no rainbow or black ink spills) then it is just your digitizer that is broken. Your top priority at this point is to not break the LCD because the digitizer is relatively cheap (~$35 shipped from China, $60 from the US). This also goes for the picture being fine but the touch not working at all.
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Just when I thought I knew the difference between the LCD and the digitizer I read your post. You said if the glass is cracked but you can see the display just fine the digitizer is broken. When you say "see the display fine" I presume when the device is on you can see whatever it should be showing? Correct me if I am wrong. Silly me I would have thought if the glass was cracked you need the LCD. Are the glass, LCD and digitizer 3 separate parts?
Anyway on my Note 10.1 2014 edition the display suddenly went black while I was using it. All indications are the device is working because I hear notifications if I sent email to one of the accounts registered on the device. Given this limited info which part(s) do I need. The glass is pristine in that there are no cracks or scratches. Do I need the digitizer, lcd or both? How can I determine what I need for sure?
Thanks in advance,
~metafizik
The digitizer is the touch sensitive glass, the LCD is under that and it makes the pictures.
If you crack or damage the LCD, you will frequently see something that looks like an ink spill or a rainbow pattern.
If you crack or damage the digitizer, you can still see pictures fine, but some or all of it might no longer respond to touch.
In your case, it sounds like your LCD is not working, but unfortunately it is hard to say whether that is the only part that stopped working since it wasn't due to damage to the screen.
DEinspanjer said:
The digitizer is the touch sensitive glass, the LCD is under that and it makes the pictures.
In your case, it sounds like your LCD is not working, but unfortunately it is hard to say whether that is the only part that stopped working since it wasn't due to damage to the screen.
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Thank you for the information. I agree there is no telling what might have caused the problem especially given some other problems that proceeded this. I had recently replaced the battery and even with the new one it was draining way too quickly. I concluded it might be the ROM I was running had become corrupted because Google services was using the lions share of the battery instead of the screen. I downloaded and installed a factory Lolipop image and it was running fine for about half a day when the wife started playing around with live wallpapers we had never tried when it went black.
At this point I am reluctant to spend $ replacing the Lcd given it might be something else altogether.
Thanks again,
~metafizik
Accepting offers on my 32GB Note 10.1 2014 edition. As described above the display has gone dark but system is otherwise working fine. Includes very nice MoKo Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard Cover Case and the tablet's battery is new.
Greetings everyone!
The other day my wife's bag fell out of the car while she was exiting without either of us noticing. Inside that bag was her Nexus 7, which I promptly ran over with my car.
Much to my surprise, everything is perfectly functional as far as I can tell. Bluetooth, WiFi, Brightness settings, OTG, charging, etc... all great. The only thing I ruined was the screen of the thing.
Knowing the cost of a screen replacement, I think I'll forgo getting a new one. (I gave her one of my other N7s so this one is now a hack-device!)
My question for the fine folks of XDA is a two parter:
a) How can I safely remove the shattered screen bits without causing further damage?
b) What would be a good material to place over it once I have it removed? Glass? Some special plastic?
My idea is basically to end up with a non-touchscreen device and use OTG and ADB to maneuver around in it.
Thanks in advance!
I take it only the touchscreen glass is cracked and the LCD is OK?
If the surface of the glass is cracked but intact, just cover it with a screen protector. If the glass has shattered, you will have to carefully cut the LCD from the digitizer as the two are bonded together. Since the LCD is very thin, you might crack it.
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I've experimented with a cracked screen. The lcd assembly is bonded over its whole area to the glass. The glue is softened by temperature (too hot to handle) but I was unable to separate a small piece. It's possible that heat + solvent could work but as bigbop says there is there is a massive risk in further damage
peterk-1 said:
I've experimented with a cracked screen. The lcd assembly is bonded over its whole area to the glass. The glue is softened by temperature (too hot to handle) but I was unable to separate a small piece. It's possible that heat + solvent could work but as bigbop says there is there is a massive risk in further damage
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LCDs typically use a metal frame to hold everything in place. I have removed the guts of the LCD from a frame in order to make it easier to remove the frame from a digitizer on an old PDA. It may be possible to do the same with the Nexus display but you will have to remove the tape around the edges of the display away and bend the small clips holding the guts in place.
I think the frame is only bonded around the outside edge.
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Great tips guys, thanks a lot. I'll post some pictures of how it goes if it works out.
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stud beefpile said:
Great tips guys, thanks a lot. I'll post some pictures of how it goes if it works out.
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So what happened?
Is it possible to replace the front glass without replacing the digitizer and LCD? I have saw many, many glass only replacements on eBay for it. I want to do it myself. Is it possible? I know it is possible for the galacy necus but as the 4's LCD is on top i was wondering on bidding for a cracked screen one on ebay and fixing the glass only.
As far as I know, the digitizer and glass are glued together pretty tightly, and it's extraordinarily tough to separate the two without damaging either; plus, if separate them you have the constant worry of dust getting in there. It's usually worth it to just buy a glass+digitizer that are glued together.
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As far as I know, the digitizer and glass are glued together pretty tightly, and it's extraordinarily tough to separate the two without damaging either; plus, if separate them you have the constant worry of dust getting in there. It's usually worth it to just buy a glass+digitizer that are glued together.
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I have seen videos of people seperating them on the galaxy nexus. Also, if the glass is cracked is the digitizer gone too? because the touch doesnt work and its cracked.
I have done a teardown of the Front display before. It is not easy. Yes the Digitizer and LCD are Glued together and I HIGHLY recommend NOT attempting to seperate them without the proper setup to do so. Once they are seperated it takes a SPECIAL glue to glue the Digitizer to the LCD and it has to be aligned correctly or you have to go through the process again. ALSO the LCD+Digitizer display is GLUED to the Bezel with an RTV type substance. I HIGHLY reccommend spending the extra few dollars to get the 3 piece setup. With that the repair is VERY Quick and easy. Takes about 15 min or so. (Half of which is getting the Back cover off without breaking anything).
Ohgami_Ichiro said:
I have done a teardown of the Front display before. It is not easy. Yes the Digitizer and LCD are Glued together and I HIGHLY recommend NOT attempting to seperate them without the proper setup to do so. Once they are seperated it takes a SPECIAL glue to glue the Digitizer to the LCD and it has to be aligned correctly or you have to go through the process again. ALSO the LCD+Digitizer display is GLUED to the Bezel with an RTV type substance. I HIGHLY reccommend spending the extra few dollars to get the 3 piece setup. With that the repair is VERY Quick and easy. Takes about 15 min or so. (Half of which is getting the Back cover off without breaking anything).
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But one question. Is the digitizer broken if the glass is broken and it doenst recognie touches?
EDIT: I will buy a broken nexus 4 off ebay for a few bucks and replace the glass so I want to know if it works if you get it. And there is a 80$ difference between the glass and the 3 piece assembly
jacobreed222 said:
I have seen videos of people seperating them on the galaxy nexus. Also, if the glass is cracked is the digitizer gone too? because the touch doesnt work and its cracked.
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The Top Glass is the Digitizer, the LCD is just that. I think the iPhone4s/5 has the Digitizer integrated into the LCD and I think this is a process that may start to become commonplace as LG announced that they have a LCD Display with Integrated Digitizer in production now.
jacobreed222 said:
But one question. Is the digitizer broken if the glass is broken and it doenst recognie touches?
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Yup You can see the digitited touch grid if you look at in the right angle in bright light.
Ohgami_Ichiro said:
The Top Glass is the Digitizer, the LCD is just that. I think the iPhone4s/5 has the Digitizer integrated into the LCD and I think this is a process that may start to become commonplace as LG announced that they have a LCD Display with Integrated Digitizer in production now.
Yup You can see the digitited touch grid if you look at in the right angle in bright light.
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So youre saying I am out of luck with these:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...=nexus+4+glass+replacement&_sacat=0&_from=R40
So why do they sell them anyway? zFor non broken glass?
jacobreed222 said:
So youre saying I am out of luck with these:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...=nexus+4+glass+replacement&_sacat=0&_from=R40
So why do they sell them anyway? zFor non broken glass?
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The Glass IS cheap but they do that so they can trick you into wasting your money. It is not an easy process to do. I have done a replacement on both the fron and back and it was very time intensive. (The front I just ordered the 3 piece and it was quick.) For anyone who has had little to no experience doing display repairs I reccommend the 3 Piece set. If you have SOME experience and have GOOD tools get the 2 Piece. ONLY get the Glass Digitizer IF you have Some professional tools and experience. Also the Special Glue for gluing the Digitizer to the LCD is about $20 by itself so that $15 Digitizer works out to ~$35-40 not to mention if you scratch or break the LCD by accident then you end up having to buy that too. I am not trying to be preachy here but trying to give you the REAL risks and obsticles associated with the repair on the N4. It is a VERY easy phone to repair in general EXCEPT the display. Just get the 3 Piece display and sell the broken one on ebay. It will sell because Professionals (who have the right tools) will grab them and refurbish them and then use them for repairs.
Take a look at this Vid, It's for the iPhone 5 but the process is the same for the N4 and N7.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbZwypAINYE
Ohgami_Ichiro said:
The Glass IS cheap but they do that so they can trick you into wasting your money. It is not an easy process to do. I have done a replacement on both the fron and back and it was very time intensive. (The front I just ordered the 3 piece and it was quick.) For anyone who has had little to no experience doing display repairs I reccommend the 3 Piece set. If you have SOME experience and have GOOD tools get the 2 Piece. ONLY get the Glass Digitizer IF you have Some professional tools and experience. Also the Special Glue for gluing the Digitizer to the LCD is about $20 by itself so that $15 Digitizer works out to ~$35-40 not to mention if you scratch or break the LCD by accident then you end up having to buy that too. I am not trying to be preachy here but trying to give you the REAL risks and obsticles associated with the repair on the N4. It is a VERY easy phone to repair in general EXCEPT the display. Just get the 3 Piece display and sell the broken one on ebay. It will sell because Professionals (who have the right tools) will grab them and refurbish them and then use them for repairs.
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Hey,
I have nexus 4. The outer glass is cracked, but lcd works perfectly. However the touch is unresponsive. If i buy just the outer glass from ebay and replaced using UV glue. Would the touch function will work? Its strange that all the other smart phones touch function work, if you break the outer glass; but on nexus 4 it stops working. looking forward to hearing your opinion. thank you.
saj
saj420 said:
Hey,
I have nexus 4. The outer glass is cracked, but lcd works perfectly. However the touch is unresponsive. If i buy just the outer glass from ebay and replaced using UV glue. Would the touch function will work? Its strange that all the other smart phones touch function work, if you break the outer glass; but on nexus 4 it stops working. looking forward to hearing your opinion. thank you.
saj
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That's what I was asking in the first place. Let me know if you figure it out.
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That's what I was asking in the first place. Let me know if you figure it out.
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I think the digitizer is so attached to the glass when the glass breaks it breaks the digitizer as well, hence why every n4 LCD that cracks has no touch response, the digitizer is glued to the glass and not the LCD as it is on the galaxy nexus making it a billion times easeyer to just buy a whole LCD unit
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IRX120 said:
I think the digitizer is so attached to the glass when the glass breaks it breaks the digitizer as well, hence why every n4 LCD that cracks has no touch response, the digitizer is glued to the glass and not the LCD as it is on the galaxy nexus making it a billion times easeyer to just buy a whole LCD unit
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It probably is easier to replace the whole unit, however it's too expensive for some people; cheapest unit I've found runs for around 120 USD, 10 times more expensive than just the glass. Specially now that Google lowered the prices, and a 120-130 USD screen doesn't make much sense when you can have a new phone for just 199 USD.
In my case, I cracked the lower corner of the screen and the lowermost buttons don't work (ie: home, back and switch app buttons). Otherwise, the screen works perfectly.
From what I've read so far online, it's fairly hard, although not impossible, to replace just the glass on a screen such as our Nexus 4's. The main difficulty is that the LCD, digitizer (the thing that takes your finger's input, in case you're wondering –as I did– what that is) and the glass are fused together. From what I gather (I am, by no means, an expert on this... take whatever I say with a grain of salt) this means that this partes are glued together with very strong adhesive.
I haven't found any videos or guides for our Nexus, but the process should be very similar to this one for a Galaxy S3. For the time being, I resorted to just rotating my phone when I need the back and home buttons. However, when it's time to buy a new phone I'll try to replace the glass on this one.
If anyone of you guys want to try this, I hope you take a video of the process and share it with the rest of us, unlucky/clumsy Nexus 4 owners.
ivancamilov said:
It probably is easier to replace the whole unit, however it's too expensive for some people; cheapest unit I've found runs for around 120 USD, 10 times more expensive than just the glass. Specially now that Google lowered the prices, and a 120-130 USD screen doesn't make much sense when you can have a new phone for just 199 USD.
In my case, I cracked the lower corner of the screen and the lowermost buttons don't work (ie: home, back and switch app buttons). Otherwise, the screen works perfectly.
From what I've read so far online, it's fairly hard, although not impossible, to replace just the glass on a screen such as our Nexus 4's. The main difficulty is that the LCD, digitizer (the thing that takes your finger's input, in case you're wondering –as I did– what that is) and the glass are fused together. From what I gather (I am, by no means, an expert on this... take whatever I say with a grain of salt) this means that this partes are glued together with very strong adhesive.
I haven't found any videos or guides for our Nexus, but the process should be very similar to this one for a Galaxy S3. For the time being, I resorted to just rotating my phone when I need the back and home buttons. However, when it's time to buy a new phone I'll try to replace the glass on this one.
If anyone of you guys want to try this, I hope you take a video of the process and share it with the rest of us, unlucky/clumsy Nexus 4 owners.
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I also found a series of videos for galaxy nexus to replace only glass
I've found this tutorial for repairing n4 cracked screen, but I don't know if what he's replacing is only the outer glass or the whole digitizer and glass together.
vickev.com/#!/article/repair-your-cracked-lg-nexus-4-e960-screen
and by the way, did someone find the glass with the digitizer for a good price? Not considering those tricky ebay announcements of outer glass, as Ohgami_Ichiro has already alerted.
found this one, but 85,85 € is kinda expensive.
spareslg.com/lcd-e-touch-lg-nexus-4-lg-e960-acq86270901.html
Erich M said:
I've found this tutorial for repairing n4 cracked screen, but I don't know if what he's replacing is only the outer glass or the whole digitizer and glass together.
vickev.com/#!/article/repair-your-cracked-lg-nexus-4-e960-screen
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It is LCD+digitizer+glass assembly replacement. Not easiest but one of easy ways, costs about $120.
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and by the way, did someone find the glass with the digitizer for a good price? Not considering those tricky ebay announcements of outer glass, as Ohgami_Ichiro has already alerted.
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For example ebay.com/itm/Original-OEM-NEW-Front-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Glass-Lens-LG-Google-Nexus-4-E960-/181230445260?pt=US_Cell_Phone_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item2a322d22cc
$38
Erich M said:
found this one, but 85,85 € is kinda expensive.
spareslg.com/lcd-e-touch-lg-nexus-4-lg-e960-acq86270901.html
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It is glass+digitizer+lcd+housing assembly.
There are also glass+digitizer+lcd+housing+battery assemblies.
If you replace the digitizer only the screen will not respond the same. My galaxy s3 has touch issues now cause I only replaced the digitizer. Now need to buy a whole assembly
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Well, I was pretty keen on getting a chinese glass/digitizer. The one I had in mind was on ebay.
I was a bit concerned about waiting up to 2 or 3 weeks, but I thought at £28 it would be worth it, as long as I could fit it successfully when it arrived. The alternative was £100 approx from spareslg.com. I was a little concerned about the integrity of the LCD as I was getting some "flowing" around the cracks on the glass. I thought (as was posted earlier) tha it would be no harm in trying to remove the broken glass now, and prep the what was left of the screen for the new glass. If it went well I would know that the LCD was ok. If it went badly however I would loose the opportunity to sell the second hand screen for £20 or so (also posted earlier). I decided to go ahead and strip down the phone.
Getting to the nitty gritty, I warmed up the screen with a hairdryer, inserted a pry tool between the bezel and the glass and started to loosen. I had replaced a glass on a Samsung Galaxy Ace successfully before and this procedure felt very familiar. The procedure actually felt much easier. The glass lifted away from the lcd within three or four minutes, and I continued to heat and ease the glass for only 6 or 7 more minutes. As I was raising the glass while working towards the top of the phone, I noticed that the LCD was leaving the frame as it didn't appear to be held by much, if anything. I thought I would remove what was left of the screen assembly from the frame and continue separating the two parts outside the frame. It was at this point that I noticed that the the LDC panel appeared to be dividing into two parts; like two wafers. Wishful thinking made me hope that what I was seeing was a digitizer membrane or something; but I soon resigned myself to the possibility that the LCD was history.:crying:
I didn't bother to clean off the glue residue, I reassembled the phone and switched it on. The picture below shows that the LCD was ruined. What looks like glass is in fact the movement of the pry tool on the adhesive on the LCD. No flash was used either.
The second photo shows the split LCD. The final photo shows the digitizer grid in the old glass.
If I had the same problem again, I would probably try again. I'd be particularly careful around the edges, not allow the LCD to rise out of the frame (and possibly tear) and take it much more slowly, and possibly use a wire separation tool if around.
Ohgami_Ichiro posted earlier that the costs of digitizer only repairs can go high. If you add fancy glues and tape then it would have cost me at least £50. New at £100 minus sale of old, £15 ?(so net £85) That could be £35 difference, £45 if you skipped the UV glue.
It might not be the last time this phone breaks though!! so savings may increase!
I have no choce now, £100.
Bye the way can anybody recommend a good open case, mine had barely 1.5 ml above screen edge.
Hope you've enjoyed the how NOT to.
Hi dear friends,
Sorry for late answer but i recommend you to take lcd digitizer and replace with cracked one. Becouse generally such chinese complete assemblies (lcd+digitizer and housing) are problematic as lcd quality bit lower than original one. So what to do is; to take digitizer around 20$ (there also which 10$ cost but really lower sensitive digitizer ) and replace it yourself. What else you need for this replacement?
-First you need something thin and sharp like as your grandfathers shaving blade for pry lcd and digitizer. (cost 1$ maybe)
-Then you also need glue cleaner for clean old glue particles, (costs 5$ with uv glue totally)
-uv adhesive for glue lcd with digitizer and (costs 5$ with adhesive cleaner totally)
-3m sticker for attach new digitizer to housing. (2-3$ for piece)
and totally cost max 30$. Maybe you will work more harder but at least you will get phone which which works with original screen with better view. :good:
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Just i need to warn you to definitely use heating gun or hair dryer(at max. temp.) while seperate cracked digitizer from lcd. Otherwise you will crack your lcd too. With my best wishes!!!
I've just bought a cracked 16GB Nexus 7 for £40
Prior to buying I read a few guides but another one I've read has got me confused. They say if the touch is affected the screen needs to be replaced but if not its just the glass.
I thought the glass digitizer is the glass and responsible for the touch as well? So if that breaks it wouldn't affect the LCD, would it?
Also, has anybody got any advice for the repair. What side to heat etc.
Thanks
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As far as I know, the glass and digitizer can come separately... The glass overlays the lcd/digitizer panel. You can replace just the glass if you need to. The glass does have some effect on the touch, as it transfers touch input to the digitizer. However, if touch still works with the cracked display (which it very well can work just fine), you can save some $ and replace the glass only. It's much easier to replace glass + digitizer, but more cost-effective to replace just the glass. Use your own judgement. If the lcd panel works fine, touch response ok despite the cracked display, then replace the glass. If you have the money, or touch is affected, spring for the entire display assembly- that's what I did on my S3, but then again, my display had burn-in which is an entirely different problem.
To replace glass only:
First remove as many sensitive components (ie battery, speakers, etc) as you can. You don't HAVE to do this, but it's recommended to protect them from the heat. Then, use scotch tape to tape the cracked areas of the screen- this secures the bits of glass and makes removal easier. Next, heat with a heat gun or hair dryer to a maximum of 180*F. You should probably use a digital thermometer (like you use for cooking or electronics) to keep an eye on the temp. Heat only the glass-side/screen of the device. Move the heat over it evenly and constantly. Once the adhesive is warm enough, you can GENTLY slide a long blade under the glass and release it from the lcd digitizer. You can also use a plastic tool/plastic knife. Be careful not to scratch the lcd, and gently clean it with 90%+ alcohol after you remove the glass, and before placing the new glass. Watch some Youtube vids to see the process in action.
NOTE: I've heard both that the Nexus 7 screen is held in place by adhesive and that it's held in place by retaining clips. I'm assuming it's adhesive, but I would get that verified before you undertake this project. Good Luck!
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Alas http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2431525
absinthesummer said:
As far as I know, the glass and digitizer can come separately... The glass overlays the lcd/digitizer panel. You can replace just the glass if you need to. The glass does have some effect on the touch, as it transfers touch input to the digitizer. However, if touch still works with the cracked display (which it very well can work just fine), you can save some $ and replace the glass only. It's much easier to replace glass + digitizer, but more cost-effective to replace just the glass. Use your own judgement. If the lcd panel works fine, touch response ok despite the cracked display, then replace the glass. If you have the money, or touch is affected, spring for the entire display assembly- that's what I did on my S3, but then again, my display had burn-in which is an entirely different problem.
To replace glass only:
First remove as many sensitive components (ie battery, speakers, etc) as you can. You don't HAVE to do this, but it's recommended to protect them from the heat. Then, use scotch tape to tape the cracked areas of the screen- this secures the bits of glass and makes removal easier. Next, heat with a heat gun or hair dryer to a maximum of 180*F. You should probably use a digital thermometer (like you use for cooking or electronics) to keep an eye on the temp. Heat only the glass-side/screen of the device. Move the heat over it evenly and constantly. Once the adhesive is warm enough, you can GENTLY slide a long blade under the glass and release it from the lcd digitizer. You can also use a plastic tool/plastic knife. Be careful not to scratch the lcd, and gently clean it with 90%+ alcohol after you remove the glass, and before placing the new glass. Watch some Youtube vids to see the process in action.
NOTE: I've heard both that the Nexus 7 screen is held in place by adhesive and that it's held in place by retaining clips. I'm assuming it's adhesive, but I would get that verified before you undertake this project. Good Luck!
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Alas http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2431525
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edit: ok, the internet doesn't even have a guide so I have no chance
UrbanDesigns said:
Nooooo
It can't be that hard to seperate the digitizer from the LCD.
It's got to be easier then doing a phone!
I'll just try it any way, worst that happens is I break the LCD as well.
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True, lol... suppose it wouldn't hurt to try!
So im waiting for my digitizer/lcd to arrive but all things I read say the digitizer and lcd are fused and cant be seperated. I didnt even bother trying. So far dissasembly was a breeze. Used my daughters hair dryer and a small flat head screwdriver to seperate digitizer from the bezel with minimal breakage. This is my reference photo for reassembly
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So im waiting for my digitizer/lcd to arrive but all things I read say the digitizer and lcd are fused and cant be seperated. I didnt even bother trying. So far dissasembly was a breeze. Used my daughters hair dryer and a small flat head screwdriver to seperate digitizer from the bezel with minimal breakage. This is my reference photo for reassembly
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It doesn't look like it's even possible, can't find anything online about it.
I'll just sell it as new screens are £60 and I paid £40 for it (16GB WiFi)
Wouldn't be worth buying a new screen
That's probably the best thing to do, put that money towards a new digitizer assembly. I literally just changed the display on my Galaxy S3 and it was a breeze. Way easier than replacing the glass would have been (although I needed the LED panel, not the glass, so different situation)... Now I have a beautiful new screen. I hope my N7 screen never breaks! I would be extremely upset about that.
The thing that bothers me is, there's gotta be a reason they're selling the glass only and not just the assembly... apparently someone has successfully changed the glass only, otherwise I'd think they're just in it for a money grab- sell screens that are impossible to change and then cash in when someone destroys the lcd and has to buy that too. What a shame.
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rezistrat said:
So im waiting for my digitizer/lcd to arrive but all things I read say the digitizer and lcd are fused and cant be seperated. I didnt even bother trying. So far dissasembly was a breeze. Used my daughters hair dryer and a small flat head screwdriver to seperate digitizer from the bezel with minimal breakage. This is my reference photo for reassembly
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So what are you doing with your old digitizer? If it's already bad, maybe you wouldn't mind giving it a go and confirming whether the glass screen can be separated or if it is hard-fused...? Or can you tell just by looking that it would be an impossible task?
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That's probably the best thing to do, put that money towards a new digitizer. I literally just changed the digitizer on my Galaxy S3 and it was a breeze. Way easier than replacing the glass would have been (although I needed the digitizer, not the glass, so different situation)... Now I have a beautiful new screen. I hope my N7 screen never breaks! I would be extremely upset about that.
The thing that bothers me is, there's gotta be a reason they're selling the glass only and not just the assembly... apparently someone has successfully changed the glass only, otherwise I'd think they're just in it for a money grab- sell screens that are impossible to change and then cash in when someone destroys the lcd and has to buy that too. What a shame.
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So what are you doing with your old digitizer? If it's already bad, maybe you wouldn't mind giving it a go and confirming whether the glass screen can be separated or if it is hard-fused...? Or can you tell just by looking that it would be an impossible task?
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The glass you're referring to is the digitizer, that's attached to the LCD.
There isn't 3 units, it's the digitizer which is glued to the LCD and the digitizer that is the hardest thing to replace.
edit: actually that's wrong, it's the glass>digitizer>lcd
I didn't assume 3 units.. But everyone calls the layers (exterior glass and underlying lcd or led panel) different things, and I may have gotten my wording mixed up because I'm doing many things at once... I will edit my post accordingly. But that wasn't the point of the question though.
Anyway, I know on my phone the glass can be separated from the led panel. We've heard its fused for the N7. I was just wondering if the other poster would be willing to attempt separating them if they're just going to be throwing the assembly out anyway (since they're getting a new assembly). That's something I would do with a display that's already bad. But that's me.
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I didn't assume 3 units.. But everyone calls the layers (exterior glass and underlying lcd or led panel) different things, and I may have gotten my wording mixed up because I'm doing many things at once... I will edit my post accordingly. But that wasn't the point of the question though.
Anyway, I know on my phone the glass can be separated from the led panel. We've heard its fused for the N7. I was just wondering if the other poster would be willing to attempt separating them if they're just going to be throwing the assembly out anyway (since they're getting a new assembly). That's something I would do with a display that's already bad. But that's me.
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After doing more research I know it can be done (it's bonded, not fused) but it's just hard, re-bonding looks like the hard part but it can be done:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2337288
It's actually not all that difficult with the proper equipment, my only worry is the backlight
Agreed... I'm watching a video now about replacing the assembly & pulling the bezel off... That part doesn't look too bad, reassembly looks simple enough too... But even they were like "it's impossible, get a new assembly. All you need to decide is whether to get one with a new bezel or one without and salvage your old one."
That sucks. :/
Edited to add: just saw that link, it looks like a PITA! It can be done, but should it be done?
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Agreed... I'm watching a video now about replacing the assembly & pulling the bezel off... That part doesn't look too bad, reassembly looks simple enough too... But even they were like "it's impossible, get a new assembly. All you need to decide is whether to get one with a new bezel or one without and salvage your old one."
That sucks. :/
Edited to add: just saw that link, it looks like a PITA! It can be done, but should it be done?
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yeah, the bezel part is easy enough.
not sure what i'm gonna do now though. might still try it anyway
Damaged my front glass display. No bleeds or dead pixels and digitiser fully responsive.
Can the glass be replaced alone?
Been to several local repairers and they saying glass display and digitiser comes as one unit and needs to replace all which comes to about 50% cost of phone. (Would written off if it was a car).
Seen some online vids using dry ice to remove the glass then reglue a new one followed by UV light to fix glue. (Sounds like dental work).
Any experiance on this?
AbuYahya said:
Damaged my front glass display. No bleeds or dead pixels and digitiser fully responsive.
Can the glass be replaced alone?
Been to several local repairers and they saying glass display and digitiser comes as one unit and needs to replace all which comes to about 50% cost of phone. (Would written off if it was a car).
Seen some online vids using dry ice to remove the glass then reglue a new one followed by UV light to fix glue. (Sounds like dental work).
Any experiance on this?
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This was possible on earlier phones even if they have digitizer and glass together, but you would need special equipment to do this, and it was a dangerous process where the chance of damaging the whole display was huge... On the Edge phone I do not see how it would be possible, because on flat screens you needed to take a wire and put it between the glass/digitizer and be careful by removing. After that you have to glue it again with UV glue.
The special point here is that with the edge screen the chance of breaking it totally is for sure more than 90%. Also as I have heard it is not even possible to remove the display on the s7 Edge without braking it. So if you need to replace just the home button, it leads also to screen replacement.
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This was possible on earlier phones even if they have digitizer and glass together, but you would need special equipment to do this, and it was a dangerous process where the chance of damaging the whole display was huge... On the Edge phone I do not see how it would be possible, because on flat screens you needed to take a wire and put it between the glass/digitizer and be careful by removing. After that you have to glue it again with UV glue.
The special point here is that with the edge screen the chance of breaking it totally is for sure more than 90%. Also as I have heard it is not even possible to remove the display on the s7 Edge without braking it. So if you need to replace just the home button, it leads also to screen replacement.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/help/damaged-glass-screen-t3483109/post69201097#post69201097
above link is proof of concept... it can be done... also several professionals in the US offer this service. I was just a bit bamboozled why its not being offered by anyone locally.