[Q] Attained root with TowelRoot, how to install custom recovery and ROM? - Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've just been able to (finally) get root on my AT&T G900A Galaxy S5. (And I tipped TowelRoot, because this is awesome.)
I just tried installing a custom recovery with "dd," and Sammy's secure boot broke everything until I was able to restore the stock recovery via Odin. How can I install a custom recovery on this device? Is there a way to stop and deactivate Samsung's secure boot now that I have root?
I'm really looking to get started trying out Team Hydra's CM 11 implementation for the device, but first need a recovery and a way to bypass the secure boot feature on the device. How do I do that?

Yeah, this is going to suck to hear, but you can't. The G900A has a locked bootloader, which means the best you'll be able to do is use Safe Strap and other TouchWiz based roms only.

Just wait on hash code once he gets done we can put cm on I'm this phone lol
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I'm hearing mixed replies: one says that it's not possible, one says that it is.
Will we ever be able to flash custom recoveries and ROMs to the G900A?

rfkrocktk said:
I'm hearing mixed replies: one says that it's not possible, one says that it is.
Will we ever be able to flash custom recoveries and ROMs to the G900A?
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If you have the AT&T S5 it has a locked boot loader which means sadly that you are not able to flash a custom recovery.

Ever? As in "permanently, no you will NEVER EVER EVER be able to flash a custom recovery?"

rfkrocktk said:
Ever? As in "permanently, no you will NEVER EVER EVER be able to flash a custom recovery?"
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As in, "Everybody's working on it"

Understood. Sorry, I was just trying to clarify whether I should completely give up on the idea of possibly running CyanogenMod on my phone.
By the way, how does unlocking the bootloader work? Can they just dd the bootloader and brute-force it, or what's typically done?

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How can I just root and not unlock

Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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you will need to unlock to flash custom zip, but u can relock after
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
playya said:
Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
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I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
gjjh25 said:
I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
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This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
playya said:
This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
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Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
gjjh25 said:
Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
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I used a toolkit but honestly you can unlock manually by just booting into bootloader mode. Go into development and try Wugs Toolkit.... Rooting the phone is easy and all methods are relatively the same.
I do not see anything wrong with giving CM a try as well
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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I recommend you to stick to your original plan, its your phone, do what you like, you don't need to flash custom roms if you don't want to. I am using stock kernel and stock KitKat right now and the performance is excellent.
Follow these instructions to unlock bootloader, install latest kitkat factory image, install custom TWRP recovery, and root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
The links to fastboot package and driver required is in my signature.
Link to download factory image: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Link for latest TWRP: TWRP recovery
Link for latest SuperSU package: SuperSU package
After you do all that, in bootloader menu, you can flash back the stock recovery (recovery.img), which is location in the "image-occam-******.zip" of the factory image. (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img)
Then lock your bootloader by "fastboot oem lock". You can also use BootUnlocker to lock and unlock your bootloader on the fly while in the phone, without losing your data, since everytime you do fastboot oem unlock, it will wipe the entire device.
By using stock rom, stock recovery, stock kernel and temporarily unroot (SuperSU) or hide root (SuperSU paid version), it allows you to receive future OTA updates from Google. If you want to modify your phones more while staying with stock, read up on Xposed Framework and its module Gravity Box, which is not yet compatible with Android 4.4 but will be eventually.
Just remember if you don't have custom recovery, once something goes wrong and your phone can't boot, its very hard to save the data inside. Once you have custom recovery like TWRP, you can make a backup of your stock image (which also backup your stock kernel) and try out other custom roms and easily go back to stock, then you can flash stock recovery again to receive OTA updates.
Thanks for advice everyone.
I rooted and unlocked with Wugfresh over the weekend. A lot easier than I thought it would be

Downgraded to MK2 to NB1 to root can't install any recovery manager

Ok so here is my situation. I took the OTA to NB1(4.4.2) then I downgraded back to MK2 so I could have root access. Then I reinstalled NB1 stock rom. Now I have root access with stock 4.4.2 on my i337 GS4. Now what I'm trying to do is install clockwork mod recovery or TWRP or any other recovery other than safestrap but I'm not able too or cannot find a way. Has any one had this issue I'm new to this and I am trying to run google edition Roms or customer roms. Also with safestrap(3.71) some roms are enabled but once phone reboots it stay on black screen. Any help or advice is appreciated thank you.:silly:
marvelAVENGER said:
Ok so here is my situation. I took the OTA to NB1(4.4.2) then I downgraded back to MK2 so I could have root access. Then I reinstalled NB1 stock rom. Now I have root access with stock 4.4.2 on my i337 GS4. Now what I'm trying to do is install clockwork mod recovery or TWRP or any other recovery other than safestrap but I'm not able too or cannot find a way. Has any one had this issue I'm new to this and I am trying to run google edition Roms or customer roms. Also with safestrap(3.71) some roms are enabled but once phone reboots it stay on black screen. Any help or advice is appreciated thank you.:silly:
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You cant install any other recovery besides ss, since our bootloader is locked. You also have not been able to run google edition roms since mf3. You can now only run touchwiz roms.
Kamaole said:
You cant install any other recovery besides ss, since our bootloader is locked. You also have not been able to run google edition roms since mf3. You can now only run touchwiz roms.
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Got it so if I get my boot loader unlocked I'll be able to run other recoveries and roms?
marvelAVENGER said:
Got it so if I get my boot loader unlocked I'll be able to run other recoveries and roms?
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At this time you cannot unlock your bootloader. As far as I know, @Hashcode is still trying to get Kexec working with safestrap using jeboo's bypasslkm exploit to load unsigned modules. If he gets that working, we will be able to basically put any kernel we want over the stock kernel. I think ran into trouble with flushing the cache.
Kamaole said:
At this time you cannot unlock your bootloader. As far as I know, @Hashcode is still trying to get Kexec working with safestrap using jeboo's bypasslkm exploit to load unsigned modules. If he gets that working, we will be able to basically put any kernel we want over the stock kernel. I think ran into trouble with flushing the cache.
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I'll keep an eye out for that thanks.

Custom recovery, or not?

Recently upgraded to S5. Have downgraded to KitKat NCG firmware / kernel, and successfully rooted. My main objective was to debloat.
I was originally planning on staying with the downgraded KitKat firmware...is there 1. A good stable custom recovery for install, 2. any reason to install a custom recovery, if I plan on sticking with KitKat, other than to make backups?
Moving from an HTC to Samsung, I am finding there are variances when one wants to start playing with the device, so I don't want to move too fast with the S5, as I don't want to end up bricking, or not having access, as it is needed daily.
Is Safestrap a good way to go?
Can anyone provide further 'recovery insight' pros and cons, and the best way to go about, should I decide to do so?
Currently, safestrap is the only recovery we have.
If you plan on installing roms then either safestrap or flash fire is the way to go.
I personally have both as I use safestrap incase I mess up and am stuck in bootloop.
zimgir124 said:
Currently, safestrap is the only recovery we have.
If you plan on installing roms then either safestrap or flash fire is the way to go.
I personally have both as I use safestrap incase I mess up and am stuck in bootloop.
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Thank you...is this - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2793891 the best instructions? How do I know / investigate if I have encryption enabled? Is this what is found in Security, under Settings? Basically, the PW required when turning on device? I currently don't have a PW required for turning on, or entering device from a blank screen.
Other than that, pretty straight forward? Thanks

Do I need to unlock the bootloader?

Hello!
I want to finally install a custom rom for my phone (GT-I9301I) but to do that I want to install TWRP. Every tutorial on how to install TWRP just use odin and phone in download mode despite the fact that in a lot of places it is said that you need to have an unlocked bootloader to flash a custom recovery. (Also in CF-auto root webpage it is stated that bootloader needs to be unlocked). But do I really need to unlock the bootloader (yes, I am new to this) to flash a custom recovery when using Odin? And after the TWRP is installed I can just use CF auto root and then install the ROM, right?
I would greatly appreciate your help !
Thanks in advance,
TheKiloOhm
I'm pretty sure, that S3Neo+ has an unlocked bootloader.
There is a way to flash a recovery without a PC. Use Flashify just from the Play Store.
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sasd123 said:
There is a way to flash a recovery without a PC. Use Flashify just from the Play Store.
Sent from my GT-I9301I using Tapatalk
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But I need root access which I can get by flashing CF auto root.
Is Towelroot considered as a common rooting tool?
RometVinnal said:
I'm pretty sure, that S3Neo+ has an unlocked bootloader.
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Is there a way I can check it? When I boot into recovery it doesn't show anything about lock/unlock state.
TheKiloOhm said:
Is there a way I can check it? When I boot into recovery it doesn't show anything about lock/unlock state.
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Well.. Try booting to download mode. (Vol. and center button down on boot). If you want to root you should download custom recovery. I recommend TWRP.
Ok, first of all..
I AM REALLY HAPPY SOMEONE MENTIONED THIS AT LAAAAAAAAAAAAAAST
Now.. I have this device.. and mine is bootloader locked
our s3ve3g is definitely locked...
and I tried to flash TWRP using ODIN and I ended up looping (Read)
So Take Care ...
Been trying to find a way to unlock this thing for a while now... will post my findings here or on my blog if I ever find anything
Edit: Did I mention that some variants of our specific device are locked and some are not !!
and I can't figure out the difference...
Found this
and it pointed me to this
but I don't have time to test now...
OK... I think I found the answer...
According to IanWorthington
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=66377330#post66377330
FIXED: This TWRP requires 4.4.4. It does NOT work on 4.3.
Samsug bidn't lock bootloader for s3 neo i have a i9301i and i can do anything with it recoevry root vustom rom kernel flashing. ANYITHING. So i think it deneds on serial nunber or something

[Q] Custom Kernel

Just a question, I do not have this phone, but may want to get it.
I notice that we have root, which it seems like an engineering boot.img allowing for root ADB. (lame method but it works, prevents updates)
But, if we use root, paired with "dd", can we flash custom kernels or does the recovery/bootloader check this and cause it to stop?
elesbb said:
Just a question, I do not have this phone, but may want to get it.
I notice that we have root, which it seems like an engineering boot.img allowing for root ADB. (lame method but it works, prevents updates)
But, if we use root, paired with "dd", can we flash custom kernels or does the recovery/bootloader check this and cause it to stop?
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No custom recovery or kernels with locked bl.
LeftyGR said:
No custom recovery or kernels with locked bl.
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That is what I was assuming. Turds. Do we know what is checking for custom kernel or recovery? Is it bootloader? Is it looking for a sig hash? Maybe we could bypass it somehow through dissassembler and hex editing.
elesbb said:
That is what I was assuming. Turds. Do we know what is checking for custom kernel or recovery? Is it bootloader? Is it looking for a sig hash? Maybe we could bypass it somehow through dissassembler and hex editing.
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I'm not sure. Above my pay grade lol. But I do know that we cannot flash anything through Odin without it being originally signed by Samsung. I am unsure if Flashfire could install a modified Bootloader. But I am pretty sure somebody would have already tried that.
LeftyGR said:
I'm not sure. Above my pay grade lol. But I do know that we cannot flash anything through Odin without it being originally signed by Samsung. I am unsure if Flashfire could install a modified Bootloader. But I am pretty sure somebody would have already tried that.
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We can technically install anything using "dd" command from terminal. There's got to be a way.. lol. I really wish Samsung would stop this garbage. They are perfectly capable of making a fully locked down version for those who want it and an open version for those who want it (obviously open version would loose out on features).

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