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Which Tab to Import to Use as Phone/Tablet on AT&T?

If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.

jdsemler said:
If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.
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If we are lucky the phone is disabled only at the ROM level... In which case we may get it back when flashing
If you want the right 3G bands, I would bet on Telstra (Australia0 or Bell (Canada). The problem is you'll probably end up paying more than US versions
We are on the same boat btw...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824676
What worries me is AT&T has been super slow in announcing its model... We still have no idea when it will be available or how much it will cost

^ Most likely before the holiday shopping season begins. They wont DARE miss it.
What At&t is probably doing is focusing on Windows Phone 7 for a while before switching their marketing over to the Galaxy Tab. Also, let the other carriers market the crap out of their own Galaxy Tabs so At&t stands out from the crowd.
The three carriers will be launching their Tabs only a couple of days from each other. T-Mobile is first, two days later Verizon then 4 days later Sprint.

I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!

INeedYourHelp said:
I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!
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On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...

Alcibiade said:
On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...
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NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.

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I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping

bulldebeerman said:
I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping
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???????
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections

clubtech said:
NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.
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And you'll be missing 850 Mhx band
So... you pay nearly twice the price of the US Tab and you get a crippled device... Sounds like a great deal !

Alcibiade said:
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections
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It'll be missing on the Sprint and Verizon models as they're CDMA-based and therefore don't use SIM cards.

Hey guys- there is already a post that discusses this question. please be careful about clogging the site up with questions that have already been discussed. (it's upsetting the Russians)
As far as the 850 band goes, it's just as fast and available as the 1900 band. 850 was added to relieve congestion due to IPhone users in 2010. 1900 is still most places and isn't going away.
I wouldn't knock someone because they decided to get the euro version without 850. Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month with voice capability unlocked while we are sitting around hoping that the US carrier version can be hacked. That only cost him roughly 50 bucks a week and that drops every day we don't have one. Seems pretty smart at this point and by the time we do get ours and figure out how to unlock the phone the difference in price will be negligible. plus he's already saving for the next gen tab while we wait for this one. And how upset will you be when you find out the hardware is disconnected and we can't get the phone turned on and have to pay the same price 2 months later after already buying the castrated US version. I guess we will find out after Thursday. Also, I heard a nasty rumor that the front facing camera on the AT&T version is removed.
I plan to get the T-Mo version without a contract on Wed and then hand that off to my wife as a Wi-Fi only tab when I can get my hands on the unlocked 850 band model that has phone capability as shown on mobilecity.com or Negrielectronics.com. I don't care what the price is, I just want to rock out on a tab like Clubtech is doing NOW!!!

dboppc130 said:
Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month...
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I thought the release date was November first?

he got the Italian model several weeks ago

I didn't realise they'd launched it there earlier, for some reason I was under the impression it was launched across Europe on the same date.

Only the UK model was delayed untill Nov 1. Italy, Germany and several others have had it since early Oct.

The offical unlocked 850/1900 version was delayed until early 2011. Atleast thats what Samsung told Nergi however, the Bell version is offically coming on Nov 12th and that version has 850/1900 3G bands so there ya go... Full 3G in the USA!

Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.

xexes said:
Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.
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What starts to piss me off is AT&T has still not given any release date. Probably trying to please Apple... Once AT&T's tab is out we'll find out whether the call has been disabled at the hardware level (Given Samsung's history, I kind of doubt it)
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)

Alcibiade said:
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)
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Different countries' networks have different strong points and weak points.
In the UK, the biggest upside is the competitive pricing. The biggest downside is the generally poor data services, allowances, prices and speeds.
In the US, the cons seem to be the 50/50 split between two technologies, making matters unnecessarily complex and reducing competition, thus leading to poorer pricing. The pros relate to the superior adoption/acceptance of data usage, more generous allowances, pushing forwards with better network technologies and higher speeds.
Or, at least, that's how I see it.

I'm on the same boat with you Alcibiade. Although I tend to believe it's the collaborative decision, or perhaps more on the Samsung's side, to make the Tab more competitive to the iPad. If you look at the pricing of the Euro/Asia version, it's pretty much no contest against the iPad. For them to sell it here in the State (the home of walmart, Target, etc, and where iPad is from) they really had to take drastic approach to lower it in order to match the iPad. And that leaves u, and me getting frustrated about if we really do have the type of options that Samsung is trying to appeal to the consumer (by offering the same device to different carriers).
From what I can gather, aside from the lack of the voice capability, there are small difference between carriers. Spring and Verizon's version seems to have only 2GB built in memory. The T-Mobile runs on it's own 3G band. And AT&T's version is up in the air. I know for me I definitely need GSM for traveling, so that really leaves me without too much choice.
Albeit maybe i am just in the minority. But i really wish they could make purchasing Tab as easy as buying the iPad.

T-Mobioe vs Developer HTC One?

Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah

You could always get sim unlocked 32gb for 579 but if you are tmo definitely get unlocked or dev.
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Crazysah said:
Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah
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T-Mobile since it has the AWS bands... You might be in a refarmed area but it's nice to have the aws when you go into an area with out the 1900 refarm.
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I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?

The city Queens and Long Island have been refarmed from where I've been. 1700mHz won't matter after LTE it's rolled out.
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If you have T-Mobile get the Tmo version to secure the best possible speeds
Sent from my SGS 3 running 4.2.2

Crazysah said:
Hello,
I promise this is the last time I ask this question.
T-Mobile version or Developer unlocked version? Price and space is not an issue for me.
I also live in New York City so I am in a reframed 1900MHz area.
Thanks,
Crazysah
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If space is not an issue for you, I would recommend T-mobile. I had Droid DNA (frequency the same as new one dev edition, except for LTE) on T-mobile in Tampa, which is a reframed 1900mhz area, and it didn't work very well. Having 1900mhz only makes you lose HSPA+ easily in a building. I chose dev. edition because I want 64GB and unlocked bootloader without losing warranty. Otherwise, I would choose T-mobile.

Crazysah said:
I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?
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I chose the t-mobile version and cancelled my dev order. I decided I could live with 32 gb. To tmo will have full aws speeds now and lte speeds later. The only advantage to the dev is that it has that extra memory. The tmo phone can easily be unlocked.
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EclipzeRemix said:
If you have T-Mobile get the Tmo version to secure the best possible speeds
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Yeah, I guess.
peachlai said:
If space is not an issue for you, I would recommend T-mobile. I had Droid DNA (frequency the same as new one dev edition, except for LTE) on T-mobile in Tampa, which is a reframed 1900mhz area, and it didn't work very well. Having 1900mhz only makes you lose HSPA+ easily in a building. I chose dev. edition because I want 64GB and unlocked bootloader without losing warranty. Otherwise, I would choose T-mobile.
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Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
stevedebi said:
I chose the t-mobile version and cancelled my dev order. I decided I could live with 32 gb. To tmo will have full aws speeds now and lte speeds later. The only advantage to the dev is that it has that extra memory. The tmo phone can easily be unlocked.
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Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?

Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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Once fully paid for you can request a sim unlock code from Tmobile. I've heard that they might make you wait 40 days from purchase before giving out the code.
To unlock the bootloader you can go to htcdev.com

Once you pay it in full, or after 3 months of service, they'll unlock it
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THEindian said:
Once you pay it in full, or after 3 months of service, they'll unlock it
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I think they recently changed the unlock requirements so it's 40 days of full service and the phone has to be fully payed off
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Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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If you mean SIM unlocked, I believe you have to wait 40 days. You can unlock the bootloader any time.
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They both the same phone, its up you. if you travel a lot (Outside the country) then get the unlocked version.. or if you plan on switching carriers later on get the unlocked version.. regardless you'll be able to unlock the T-Mobile version also but deal with any bloatware they add and you'll have to wait for your carrier to approve updates
unlocked version roms can be flashed on the ATT/T-Mobile version .. plus the bootloader is unlocked on both..
If money isn't a issue then why are you even asking this question? just buy the unbranded version which supports LTE on both networks (if im correct) Just know T-Mobile won't replace it and you'll have to go thru HTC and their warranty agreements.. (if the unlocked bootloader even comes with warranty)
Its like you are asking "i got a billion dollars.. should i buy a Ferrari or buy a Bugatti ?"

Crazysah said:
Yeah, I guess.
Was it really that bad? I guess T-Mobile version it is.
Can the T-Mobile phone be legally unlocked if you buy it full price?
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It was so bad that my friend switched to Straight Talk... (I only visited Tampa for one month but my friend lives there) The only difference is that when New York has Tmobile LTE, new One dev. edition will work under LTE. But before LTE comes, it would probably be similar to what my friend experienced in Tampa.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／

peachlai said:
It was so bad that my friend switched to Straight Talk... (I only visited Tampa for one month but my friend lives there) The only difference is that when New York has Tmobile LTE, new One dev. edition will work under LTE. But before LTE comes, it would probably be similar to what my friend experienced in Tampa.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
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So assuming NYC gets LTE by the summer (I'll be gone to India anyway for the summer), I'll be fine getting by with one month of 2G. The Dev version has more bands right so supports it works better in most countries?

Crazysah said:
So assuming NYC gets LTE by the summer (I'll be gone to India anyway for the summer), I'll be fine getting by with one month of 2G. The Dev version has more bands right so supports it works better in most countries?
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Yes, if outside of USA, I believe you'll have higher chance of getting a compatible frequency with Dev. Edition. I actually chose dev. edition over T-mobile because I am moving to a place where T-mobile has LTE. But my experience reminds me that I should test the speed before I switch from Straight Talk to T-mobile.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／

peachlai said:
Yes, if outside of USA, I believe you'll have higher chance of getting a compatible frequency with Dev. Edition. I actually chose dev. edition over T-mobile because I am moving to a place where T-mobile has LTE. But my experience reminds me that I should test the speed before I switch from Straight Talk to T-mobile.
Be Vegan, Make Peace ＼(^o^)／
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I guess I'll order the dev version then and if I run into many problems, I'll sell it when I get back to the USA in August.
Thanks a lot!

1700 > 1900
Crazysah said:
I'm still not convinced either way. I don't travel much within the USA, so I don't think I'll be much in places without 1900MHz since I live in New York City.
So if I'm almost always in a 1900MHz reframed area, then I'll be just fine getting the developer edition right? The whole of New York is covered by the new 1900MHz right?
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I use the T-Mobile version in NYC, and it has better reception where I live as it accesses 1700 AWS HSPA+42, and I get better in building reception with that compared to 1900 (or the kick out to EDGE - ugh!), and voice calls are also better for some reason (not to mention Wifi calling - which I LOST when I flashed AR6 - if someone knows when the T-Mobile ROM will be out, let us know, can't wait to switch back and have that back).
The T-mobile version, even flashed with another rom, doesn't allow Hotspot natively without kicking u to sign up for a hotspot plan, whereas the AT&T version allows hotspot functionality without a headache once you flash another rom and replace the stock AT&T rom.

alinefx said:
I use the T-Mobile version in NYC, and it has better reception where I live as it accesses 1700 AWS HSPA+42, and I get better in building reception with that compared to 1900 (or the kick out to EDGE - ugh!), and voice calls are also better for some reason (not to mention Wifi calling - which I LOST when I flashed AR6 - if someone knows when the T-Mobile ROM will be out, let us know, can't wait to switch back and have that back).
The T-mobile version, even flashed with another rom, doesn't allow Hotspot natively without kicking u to sign up for a hotspot plan, whereas the AT&T version allows hotspot functionality without a headache once you flash another rom and replace the stock AT&T rom.
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I don't care about hotspot. So literally, the only thing I lose by going dev is the Wi-Fi calling?
Where in New York exactly do you live?

Moto X (Carrier Unlocked Version)

Greetings All,
I purchased a carrier unlocked version of the Moto X from a retailer on ebay. Here's the item number:290976476988 (I would provide the link, but I am not allowed to since I'm a new user). It had a pretty significant markdown from what Motorola is selling them for, so I decided to take a shot in the dark hoping it will work with my carrier, T-mobile, which I'm pretty confident it will. I should be receiving mine at the top of next week, so I'll check back with my results once I get everything squared away.
In the mean time, can anybody confirm if there is one universal carrier unlocked version that will work with T-mobiles bands? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.

conspiracymorpheus said:
Greetings All,
I purchased a carrier unlocked version of the Moto X from a retailer on ebay. Here's the item number:290976476988 (I would provide the link, but I am not allowed to since I'm a new user). It had a pretty significant markdown from what Motorola is selling them for, so I decided to take a shot in the dark hoping it will work with my carrier, T-mobile, which I'm pretty confident it will. I should be receiving mine at the top of next week, so I'll check back with my results once I get everything squared away.
In the mean time, can anybody confirm if there is one universal carrier unlocked version that will work with T-mobiles bands? Any info is appreciated. Thanks.
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It will but is missing the AWS 1700 HSPA frequency. If you go to or live in an area that is not refarmed you will be stuck on EDGE.

Turb0wned said:
It will but is missing the AWS 1700 HSPA frequency. If you go to or live in an area that is not refarmed you will be stuck on EDGE.
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Oooof. Not what I wanted to hear. You 100% on this?

conspiracymorpheus said:
Oooof. Not what I wanted to hear. You 100% on this?
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Yes I am. Its the reason I sucked it up and just ordered the crappy 16GB Tmobile one.. Exclusives suck.

Turb0wned said:
Yes I am. Its the reason I sucked it up and just ordered the crappy 16GB Tmobile one.. Exclusives suck.
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Well I think I may have lucked up, as I did a couple of quick searches and it looks like I'm in an area with 1900 MHz HSPA coverage. Does 1900 MHz constitute "refarmed" HSPA?

conspiracymorpheus said:
Well I think I may have lucked up, as I did a couple of quick searches and it looks like I'm in an area with 1900 MHz HSPA coverage. Does 1900 MHz constitute "refarmed" HSPA?
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Yes but what I try telling people on here just like I did with the HTC One (and later if you look on those forums many people started getting rid of their developer edition for a tmobile one) is that just because your area is refarmed doesn't mean every inch of it is. I would had to drive to the mall and realize i'm only on EDGE after spending $500+ on a phone. If you area has LTE that will help though. Also if you ever travel anywhere you run into the chance of not having 3G.

Turb0wned said:
Yes but what I try telling people on here just like I did with the HTC One (and later if you look on those forums many people started getting rid of their developer edition for a tmobile one) is that just because your area is refarmed doesn't mean every inch of it is. I would had to drive to the mall and realize i'm only on EDGE after spending $500+ on a phone. If you area has LTE that will help though. Also if you ever travel anywhere you run into the chance of not having 3G.
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No doubt, and I appreciate the concern as well as the explanation. I live about 10 minutes away from the Loop in Chicago, and I had my Nexus 4 working off of the LTE hack for quite some time until I upgraded to 4.3. I had LTE coverage about 90% of the time, but when I travel to see my Ma in the suburbs I remained on HSPA+ (not sure if its refarmed out that way).
We'll see how I do for the first week. If anything I'll just return this one and just get the T-mobile variant. Hopefully T-mobile continues to expand their LTE coverage in the surrounding areas around the prime metro areas. I've kinda accepted that I won't have mobile data in the boonies, but hopefully T-mobile fixes that soon as well.

Turbo on other US networks, (T-Mobile and AT&T)

Has anyone had the chance to test it on other networks? I know it should work on T-Mobile with lte, but I'm debating whether to hold out a month for a international model, in hopes of it having the right lte bands for T-Mobile and no vzw bloat. Or a dev edition. Anyone else on the same boat?
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gordonzhao said:
Has anyone had the chance to test it on other networks? I know it should work on T-Mobile with lte, but I'm debating whether to hold out a month for a international model, in hopes of it having the right lte bands for T-Mobile and no vzw bloat. Or a dev edition. Anyone else on the same boat?
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It is impossible to purchase this phone without activating it on the Verizon network, which means you will need a contract or someone on a Verizon contract willing to activate it for you.
They will not let you buy the phone at retail and walk out of the store without activation. I have already tried, multiple ways. I do, however, have an active AT&T SIM and could perhaps try it. But I'd rather not.
Rumor is that Motorola has AT&T and T-Mobile versions on the way, be patient.

Yes I put my ATT sim in the phone.
It comes up with a warning that the sim card you're using is not from Verizon.
You can dismiss it and notice that you will see AT&T instead of Verizon Wireless at the bottom of the home screen.
The data icon shows 3G but speeds are more like HSPA+ speeds.
Voice and SMS not a problem.
I did not try sending a video in a text though.
APNs can be set and even after I did I did not see a 4GLTE icon.
Interestingly enough when I was done and put the Verizon SIM back in, the AT&T APN settings I put in earlier were completely gone, only the Verizon one was showing.
If TMO has a version that would be the one to get as they most likely will NOT have a locked bootloader AND you can walk out without activating at all, just pay cash or charge it, etc.
I have a friend with a TMO and give the associate that number and name on the account and tell the associate it's a gift.

Andromjb said:
It is impossible to purchase this phone without activating it on the Verizon network, which means you will need a contract or someone on a Verizon contract willing to activate it for you.
They will not let you buy the phone at retail and walk out of the store without activation. I have already tried, multiple ways. I do, however, have an active AT&T SIM and could perhaps try it. But I'd rather not.
Rumor is that Motorola has AT&T and T-Mobile versions on the way, be patient.
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i know people ; ) I heard, moto maxx, but no word as to when, perhaps I'll give it to the end of the month, November.
cpufrost said:
Yes I put my ATT sim in the phone.
It comes up with a warning that the sim card you're using is not from Verizon.
You can dismiss it and notice that you will see AT&T instead of Verizon Wireless at the bottom of the home screen.
The data icon shows 3G but speeds are more like HSPA+ speeds.
Voice and SMS not a problem.
I did not try sending a video in a text though.
APNs can be set and even after I did I did not see a 4GLTE icon.
Interestingly enough when I was done and put the Verizon SIM back in, the AT&T APN settings I put in earlier were completely gone, only the Verizon one was showing.
If TMO has a version that would be the one to get as they most likely will NOT have a locked bootloader AND you can walk out without activating at all, just pay cash or charge it, etc.
I have a friend with a TMO and give the associate that number and name on the account and tell the associate it's a gift.
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Att doesn't use the same lte bands, tmobile and Verizon do. I just wanted to make sure it would work. Are you using both vzw and att?
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gordonzhao said:
i know people ; ) I heard, moto maxx, but no word as to when, perhaps I'll give it to the end of the month, November.
Att doesn't use the same lte bands, tmobile and Verizon do. I just wanted to make sure it would work. Are you using both vzw and att?
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Yes I have accounts with both.

gordonzhao said:
i know people ; ) I heard, moto maxx, but no word as to when, perhaps I'll give it to the end of the month, November.
Att doesn't use the same lte bands, tmobile and Verizon do. I just wanted to make sure it would work. Are you using both vzw and att?
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Moto announcement in Brazil November 5th. Rumor mill consensus is it's for international turbo (Moto maxx). I'm waiting.

cpufrost said:
Interestingly enough when I was done and put the Verizon SIM back in, the AT&T APN settings I put in earlier were completely gone, only the Verizon one was showing.
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The APN settings stay with the sim. When I was testing sims on a nexus 4 the settings for each individual sim would disappear/reappear when I unloaded/loaded the sims.
Someone else posted they were getting weak at&t LTE on the droid turbo elsewhere..

I am using the turbo on T-mo
Hey,
I purchased the turbo and popped my t-mo sim in and set the APN for T-mo, and I am getting G, 3G and LTE. I dont seem to be getting HSPA. I get LTE most of the time and normal speeds, like 30MBps. I am really happy to have LTE. I am in minnespolis, so I am not sure which band is coming in...

aaronc_98 said:
Hey,
I purchased the turbo and popped my t-mo sim in and set the APN for T-mo, and I am getting G, 3G and LTE. I dont seem to be getting HSPA. I get LTE most of the time and normal speeds, like 30MBps. I am really happy to have LTE. I am in minnespolis, so I am not sure which band is coming in...
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You would be running lte off of band 2 and 4 since that'd T-Mobile's lte signal. As we speak I'm walking over to a vzw to check out the phone but will probably wait until the end of the month to get it if the international model doesn't have T-Mobile's lte bands
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The Turbo will work on TMo, but I think its missing one of the spectrums for 42mbps. So its less reliable than would be expected.

Rebel908 said:
The Turbo will work on TMo, but I think its missing one of the spectrums for 42mbps. So its less reliable than would be expected.
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definitely. But be patient, the Int Version is coming for sure. Motorola sent invitation already and it's not rumor. I really near to pull the trigger but after reading several news I decided to wait. Just a couple days....
Hope Turbo will receive good support from developer, if not... then nexus beat them all

Rebel908 said:
The Turbo will work on TMo, but I think its missing one of the spectrums for 42mbps. So its less reliable than would be expected.
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It has 1900/2100 which is hspa+ for tmobile, if no lte it drops to hspa+
Onismurai said:
definitely. But be patient, the Int Version is coming for sure. Motorola sent invitation already and it's not rumor. I really near to pull the trigger but after reading several news I decided to wait. Just a couple days....
Hope Turbo will receive good support from developer, if not... then nexus beat them all
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I've been reading, but I'm doubtful the international model will have tmobile lte, the only international models that ever do are Sony. As far as the n6, I played with it a few weeks back, the 6 inch screen is definitely too big.
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gordonzhao said:
It has 1900/2100 which is hspa+ for tmobile, if no lte it drops to hspa+
I have been using for 2 days on t-mo and I have yet to see it switch to HSPA. So are you saying it works for you?
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aaronc_98 said:
gordonzhao said:
It has 1900/2100 which is hspa+ for tmobile, if no lte it drops to hspa+
I have been using for 2 days on t-mo and I have yet to see it switch to HSPA. So are you saying it works for you?
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Have you checked your data speeds? The droid turbo doesn't have an icon for hspa+ because its a Verizon phone. Might just say 3g. TKe a look at network in the settings and see what it says.
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You must be in an area that only has band 17 LTE for AT&T. This phone has band 2 and 4 LTE for AT&T and they are unlocked straight from verizon.
I am very interested in this phone but i will wait for the GSM version that will include band 17.
Since it is a Snapdragon phone I'm sure you can QPST unlock all the band. I did it on my G3 pretty painless but you can really mess some things up if you are not careful
thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/thread-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269
cpufrost said:
Yes I put my ATT sim in the phone.
It comes up with a warning that the sim card you're using is not from Verizon.
You can dismiss it and notice that you will see AT&T instead of Verizon Wireless at the bottom of the home screen.
The data icon shows 3G but speeds are more like HSPA+ speeds.
Voice and SMS not a problem.
I did not try sending a video in a text though.
APNs can be set and even after I did I did not see a 4GLTE icon.
Interestingly enough when I was done and put the Verizon SIM back in, the AT&T APN settings I put in earlier were completely gone, only the Verizon one was showing.
If TMO has a version that would be the one to get as they most likely will NOT have a locked bootloader AND you can walk out without activating at all, just pay cash or charge it, etc.
I have a friend with a TMO and give the associate that number and name on the account and tell the associate it's a gift.
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qwerty12601 said:
aaronc_98 said:
Have you checked your data speeds? The droid turbo doesn't have an icon for hspa+ because its a Verizon phone. Might just say 3g. TKe a look at network in the settings and see what it says.
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Ok, that makes sense. the icons I have seen are G, 3G, and 4GLTE. I am on LTE most of the time and gotten download speeds of 46Mbs on LTE. When it is on 3G, the network type says UMTS.
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aaronc_98 said:
Hey,
I purchased the turbo and popped my t-mo sim in and set the APN for T-mo, and I am getting G, 3G and LTE. I dont seem to be getting HSPA. I get LTE most of the time and normal speeds, like 30MBps. I am really happy to have LTE. I am in minnespolis, so I am not sure which band is coming in...
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Are you able to do simultaneous voice and data with the Turbo and the T-Mobile SIM?
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distortedloop said:
Are you able to do simultaneous voice and data with the Turbo and the T-Mobile SIM?
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Yes

Since it is a Snapdragon phone I'm sure you can QPST unlock all the band. I did it on my G3 pretty painless but you can really mess some things up if you are not careful
thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/thread-progress-please-leave-im-updating-t2871269[/QUOTE]
Can't unlock if there's not root or unlocked bootloader....
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qwerty12601 said:
Ok, that makes sense. the icons I have seen are G, 3G, and 4GLTE. I am on LTE most of the time and gotten download speeds of 46Mbs on LTE. When it is on 3G, the network type says UMTS.
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Yes, HSPA+ is really 3G+ same difference. 3G=HSPA .'4G' = HSPA+
But in reality LTE is really the 4th Gen. In the states here they f'ed the naming so they can sound like it's blazing fast....
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gordonzhao said:
Has anyone had the chance to test it on other networks? I know it should work on T-Mobile with lte, but I'm debating whether to hold out a month for a international model, in hopes of it having the right lte bands for T-Mobile and no vzw bloat. Or a dev edition. Anyone else on the same boat?
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I just bought the phone today and swapped in my Tmobile Nano Sim. Its working perfectly with full LTE in Chicago. I had to add the Apn settings under mobike network to get it to work. Whenever I reboot the phone a notification reminds me that i'm not using a verizon sim. Its easily dismissed. I cant be happier, this is the "Nexus" I wanted all along.

s6/edge carrier poll

wondering what carrier the people who are actually getting a S6 have

sammobile saya verizon will start taking PreOrders April 1. (no price given yet)

why no o2 mclovin lol

I have AT&T and recently received a notification that I'm due for an upgrade. Hope these things drop the first part of April.

AT&T always gets the exclusives when it comes to devices, so I wouldnt be surprised they get an additional color

ViRuS3k said:
why no o2 mclovin lol
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i put an extea option if ur carrier is out of the us (as i dont know them all)
is o2 a US Carrier?
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to any sprint users, do you have good service?
sprint is horrible in my area

GreeleyXda said:
i put an extea option if ur carrier is out of the us (as i dont know them all)
is o2 a US Carrier?
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to any sprint users, do you have good service?
sprint is horrible in my area
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nah UK carrier.

GreeleyXda said:
to any sprint users, do you have good service?
sprint is horrible in my area
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coverage is pretty good in my area (CT), as for LTE, it's been available for me since last March in my home town and LTE is still expanding.
my problem right now is i have a 1st gen GS4 so i am limited on the LTE bands i can use so my speed slows down a bit during peak hours. but off peak i get 25mbit/s down and 6Mbit/s up. i hope when i get a newer phone which support sprint spark LTE (tri band 800MHz, 1.9GHz and 2.5GHz spectrum) then my slowish LTE speeds will improve. IIRC all phones after the 2nd gen GS4 support LTE tri-band.

going to get the tmobile version, unlock it and use it on cricket (at&T mvno) and solavei (t-Mobile MVNO). The tmobile version will have all of tmobile H+ and LTE bands as well as all of at&T h+ and LTE. also thwe bootloader will likely not be locked. downside is spending the extra money to have it third party unlocked

GreeleyXda said:
i put an extea option if ur carrier is out of the us (as i dont know them all)
is o2 a US Carrier?
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sprint is horrible in my area
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I have a Note 3 on Sprint for my personal line and a Note 4 for my work line on AT&T. My Note 3 on Sprints network consistently has better signal. I am sure others would have different results but where I live Sprint seems to have the better network. This hasn't always been the case though. Turn the clocks back two years and Sprints network was absolutely horrible but now it's on par and in some areas better than other carriers.

Sadly... Sprint S6 Edge is what I'm getting. Damn Sprint.......

I'm on AT&T, but if this one is locked down too much (no root), I'll spring for an International version.