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tomorrow i will be receiving my Galaxy S4 in the mail, and basically i just want to make sure i will be rooting this phone with the most recent and preferred method.
i found this guide from 2 different sticky threads "[HOW-TO] The ULTIMATE All-In-One Guide - I337M & MDL - MF3 - MK2" and "Frequently Asked Questions"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297900
but i started to see thing different than what i'm used to on the GS3:
(1) "This will not work on Build Number I337UCUAMF3"
is this comparable to the bootloader on the GS3? kinda like how there's a different guide to root a GS3 on the MJB bootloader.
(1b) what version will come out of the box?
should i root it before even putting my SIM card in it so it doesn't have a chance to auto-update?
(2) CASUAL
it sounds like this is an all-in-one, do-it-all Windows application? so i won't need the use of Odin to flash any files?
(3) what's the preferred custom recovery?
i've been using CWM for so many years now, it's just my go-to custom recovery.
SOLVED, see my last post.
mrhomiec said:
tomorrow i will be receiving my Galaxy S4 in the mail, and basically i just want to make sure i will be rooting this phone with the most recent and preferred method.
i found this guide from 2 different sticky threads "[HOW-TO] The ULTIMATE All-In-One Guide - I337M & MDL - MF3 - MK2" and "Frequently Asked Questions"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2297900
but i started to see thing different than what i'm used to on the GS3:
(1) "This will not work on Build Number I337UCUAMF3"
is this comparable to the bootloader on the GS3? kinda like how there's a different guide to root a GS3 on the MJB bootloader.
(1b) what version will come out of the box?
should i root it before even putting my SIM card in it so it doesn't have a chance to auto-update?
(2) CASUAL
it sounds like this is an all-in-one, do-it-all Windows application? so i won't need the use of Odin to flash any files?
(3) what's the preferred custom recovery?
i've been using CWM for so many years now, it's just my go-to custom recovery.
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Chances are you'll get an S4 with a newer firmware. This means you won't be able to use TWRP or CWM, and you can't run AOSP ROMs. You can still root and flash other Touchwiz ROMs.
1) Yes, that's exactly what it is in fact. Bootloaders MF3 and above do not support the only exploit we have to install AOSP ROMs.
1b) Like i said, probably a newer one. Check on the outside of the box and it will have a label somewhere about the software version. If it's not MDB or MDL then you can't use the exploit to get an AOSP ROM.
2) Yes, it is an AIO Windows app, but it won't work unless you get one on MDL or MDB again.
3) If you get the newer firmware, Safestrap is the only recovery, and Touchwiz ROMs are all that's compatible
If you want a better explanation of anything, PM me and I'll be glad to respond as soon as I finish the essay i should be typing at the moment.
so in short, MDB/MDL = awesome.
i really hope i get one of these then. i always flash CM on whatever phone i use.
if i do receive a phone that's MDB/MDL, i should NOT insert my SIM card, and NOT connect to wifi then? that way i can root first?
mrhomiec said:
so in short, MDB/MDL = awesome.
i really hope i get one of these then. i always flash CM on whatever phone i use.
if i do receive a phone that's MDB/MDL, i should NOT insert my SIM card, and NOT connect to wifi then? that way i can root first?
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Exactly, do not let it connect. Just use CASUAL and then either use your root to disable the OTA updater or go straight to a ROM. Then just remember that if you ever have issues and need to flash stock firmware only flash the same and never a newer one.
aw man. just got the phone in, and it's already been updated.
came in on 4.4.2, I337UCUFNB1
found these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52167774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545 (edit, upon more searching, this method seems the most mentioned/preferred)
and i'm wondering if i should even "root" this phone anymore. i feel like if/when a real root method comes out, i can root it then?
i guess the benefit of rooting now, would be to freeze/uninstall Samsung apps. also, would it be any easier to real root after sorta rooting?
edit, some more searching around, rooting right now (and with Safestrap Recovery installed) has a whole bunch of scenarios to be aware of. this is kinda overwhelming coming from the GS3 and Nexus phones/tablets.
edit, what are ROM slots? this sounds like dual-boots to me.
and also, since my phone came with NB1, what is the proper terminology for this situation? because i'm reading references like "NB1 users who took the OTA" and "NB1 users who started out there".
another edit! so i think i'm going to just root, and stop there, is that possible? or do i have to go one step further and install Safestrap Recovery?
i tried to follow the guide above (2nd link), and in Odin i got a FAIL message when i loaded the *.pit file to the PIT slot, and the *.md5 file to the AP slot.
mrhomiec said:
aw man. just got the phone in, and it's already been updated.
came in on 4.4.2, I337UCUFNB1
found these threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52167774
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545 (edit, upon more searching, this method seems the most mentioned/preferred)
and i'm wondering if i should even "root" this phone anymore. i feel like if/when a real root method comes out, i can root it then?
i guess the benefit of rooting now, would be to freeze/uninstall Samsung apps. also, would it be any easier to real root after sorta rooting?
edit, some more searching around, rooting right now (and with Safestrap Recovery installed) has a whole bunch of scenarios to be aware of. this is kinda overwhelming coming from the GS3 and Nexus phones/tablets.
edit, what are ROM slots? this sounds like dual-boots to me.
and also, since my phone came with NB1, what is the proper terminology for this situation? because i'm reading references like "NB1 users who took the OTA" and "NB1 users who started out there".
another edit! so i think i'm going to just root, and stop there, is that possible? or do i have to go one step further and install Safestrap Recovery?
i tried to follow the guide above (2nd link), and in Odin i got a FAIL message when i loaded the *.pit file to the PIT slot, and the *.md5 file to the AP slot.
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To root, you'll need to downgrade to mk2 with Odin. See the second post in this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50667360
Then root using saferoot
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jd1639 said:
To root, you'll need to downgrade to mk2 with Odin. See the second post in this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=50667360
Then root using saferoot
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i tried following that guide, and i mentioned i got a FAIL message. i'm trying the other guide i linked to see if that method works.
mrhomiec said:
i tried following that guide, and i mentioned i got a FAIL message. i'm trying the other guide i linked to see if that method works.
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Sorry man,I have you the wrong link. Use the all in one tar file from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=49687770
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mrhomiec said:
i tried following that guide, and i mentioned i got a FAIL message. i'm trying the other guide i linked to see if that method works.
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The way most people follow on that thread is
1. Flash full NB1 post #2
2. Downgrade to MK2 post # 1
3. Root with safe root
4. Fix wife
5. Install safe strap
6 flash Tw rom of your preference.
7. Flash kernel if needed
8. Flash deadly venom magic tool.
9. Flash super su update.
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netomel said:
6 flash Tw rom of your preference.
7. Flash kernel if needed
8. Flash deadly venom magic tool.
9. Flash super su update.
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flashing DVMT is optional. any modifications to the kernel will void his warranty (Knox 0x1). i'd advise looking into PurifieD or any 'stock' variant rom that does not require a custom kernel to be flashed, at least until your year of warranty goes by. Any post saying 'flashing period will void your warranty' is incorrect. On PurifieD with knox 0x0.
Rhymey said:
flashing DVMT is optional. any modifications to the kernel will void his warranty (Knox 0x1). i'd advise looking into PurifieD or any 'stock' variant rom that does not require a custom kernel to be flashed, at least until your year of warranty goes by. Any post saying 'flashing period will void your warranty' is incorrect. On PurifieD with knox 0x0.
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We can't flash custom kernels on kit kat stock anyway.
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netomel said:
We can't flash custom kernels on kit kat stock anyway. I flashed deadly venom and knox still intouched.
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i am totally lost right now. i finally got this guide to work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
(i was being dumb, and i forgot to put the phone into Download Mode for Odin)
now, i'm having a problem with the last step...
1. Download all three files above
2. Open ODIN3v3.09
3. Load both Pit and AP together to corerct slot ( Pit >>PIT SLOT.....AP>>PDA SLOT ) and hit start.....
5. When is done....reboot to stock recovery and choose Full Wipe/Factory Reset.
6. Re-Root using Saferoot Method
7. Re-install Safestrap-v3.71
8. Try restoring your back up from safestrap recovery....CONFIRMED WORK...
9. Special Thanks to @Michael3214 @rebel1699 @Maribou @dolph8886 @Surge1223 @jeboo for his bypasslkm exploit and others that help to get WiFi Fixed....
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Flash in Safe Strap then reboot open universal init.d toggle on then press nb1wififix then press the play icon on the top right grant su. After that you'll have wifi on boot.
https://mega.co.nz/#!dct3ALRT!e81l_V...LaYu_yKvCYeHhg
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Code:
adb push bypasslkm /data/local/tmp
cd /data/local/tmp
chmod 755 bypasslkm
./bypasslkm
i cannot get wifi to work on the phone, and also, LTE/data is nowhere to be seen as well, and i'm hoping if i get the wifi fixed, it'll fix the data part too. i tried to flash the bypasslkm.zip via Safestrap Recovery, and it said it was successfully flashed, but still no wifi.
OR, i'm not sure if i did this all backwards. i received the phone today, and instead of putting my SIM card in right away, i booted up the phone, didn't connect to wifi, and attempted this whole rooting process.
then, i can't apply the update.zip for some reason with these instructions...
1. U need Samsung USB driver install to your PC ......Install SAMSUNG KIES and plug your phone, it will install latest driver for your phone....
2. Make sure u unable USB debugging mode on ur phone.....go to menu>settings>more> it should be on top of about device
( Developer options ) but if u dont have it go to about device and click build number 5 time....so that will unable developer options and CHECK USB DEBUGGING.
3. Make sure u have latest ADB ( Android Debugging Bridge ) version 1.0.31.... ANDROID SDK
4. IF you like to update to NB1 coming from MK2 ....Reboot to recovery>>>Apply Update From ADB....( MAKE SURE U DOWNLOAD update.zip AND PLACE IT INSIDE YOUR SD CARD)
5. Go to your PC >>> ADB folder >>> Shift+Right Click >>> Open Command Window Here
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Code:
adb devices
adb sideload update.zip
i get this error...
* cannot read 'update.zip' *
mrhomiec said:
i am totally lost right now. i finally got this guide to work:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
(i was being dumb, and i forgot to put the phone into Download Mode for Odin)
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Hi there! If you have safestrap installed and you still have root on whatever you're currently on, please update to 3.72 (if you haven't already) found here (click), and flash the stock rooted NC1 100% rom via Safestrap over your stock slot found here. This [should] fix your issues 100%. If not, scroll down to where it has the NC1 modem and flash that too.
Rhymey said:
Hi there! If you have safestrap installed and you still have root on whatever you're currently on, please update to 3.72 (if you haven't already) found here (click), and flash the stock rooted NC1 100% rom via Safestrap over your stock slot found here. This [should] fix your issues 100%. If not, scroll down to where it has the NC1 modem and flash that too.
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i am on Safestrap Recovery 3.72, and i'm downloading that 100% ROM right now.
so i don't need to worry about the "update.zip" or the "bypasslkm.zip" files anymore?
just flash this ROM via Safestrap Recovery and i'm good to go?
back to my original post then, so i'm used to using CWM as a custom recovery, do i follow the usual steps with Safestrap?
* wipe data/factory reset
* wipe cache
* wipe dalvik cache
* flash ROM
* reboot
mrhomiec said:
i am on Safestrap Recovery 3.72, and i'm downloading that 100% ROM right now.
so i don't need to worry about the "update.zip" or the "bypasslkm.zip" files anymore?
just flash this ROM via Safestrap Recovery and i'm good to go?
back to my original post then, so i'm used to using CWM as a custom recovery, do i follow the usual steps with Safestrap?
* wipe data/factory reset
* wipe cache
* wipe dalvik cache
* flash ROM
* reboot
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Yup, you got it. Go into advanced wipe on Safestrap and tick all of those. I never bothered with either of those zips. The only thing you might need to do is reflash SuperSU, but I never had an issue using the stock rom, just custom ones. SuperSU DL here.
Rhymey said:
Yup, you got it. Go into advanced wipe on Safestrap and tick all of those. I never bothered with either of those zips. The only thing you might need to do is reflash SuperSU, but I never had an issue using the stock rom, just custom ones. SuperSU DL here.
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i found a link somewhere (and i forgot where no with how many tabs i had open originally), for a version of "UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip", but i downloaded the v1.89 from your link anyways (just in case).
the 100% ROM is still downloading, and i noticed something, you said to flash the NC1 modem if i continued to have problems, but i didn't see a mention of that in the link you provided. there's a kernel link if that's what you meant.
mrhomiec said:
i found a link somewhere (and i forgot where no with how many tabs i had open originally), for a version of "UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.93.zip", but i downloaded the v1.89 from your link anyways (just in case).
the 100% ROM is still downloading, and i noticed something, you said to flash the NC1 modem if i continued to have problems, but i didn't see a mention of that in the link you provided. there's a kernel link if that's what you meant.
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Oh, guh. You're gonna need that kernel too. It's samsung signed so no voiding there. Modem here, just in case.
wipe everything except ext sd > flash rom > download mode, flash kernel in AP slot > boot, see if wifi works. If not, go flash the modem.
Rhymey said:
Oh, guh. You're gonna need that kernel too. It's samsung signed so no voiding there. Modem here, just in case.
wipe everything except ext sd > flash rom > download mode, flash kernel in AP slot > boot, see if wifi works. If not, go flash the modem.
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looks like i'm good to go! thank you! :highfive:
i am on 4.4.2, baseband NC1, build NC1, LTE works, wifi works.
only took me 6 hours. :victory:
mrhomiec said:
looks like i'm good to go! thank you! :highfive:
i am on 4.4.2, baseband NC1, build NC1, LTE works, wifi works.
only took me 6 hours. :victory:
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good to hear! if you have any issues with root just reflash SuperSU in safestrap. you can also jump around on TouchWiz roms now if you want to, but don't let any of them touch your kernel. And if you do, you'll need to flash an AT&T wifi module found here to get wifi working, and a build.prop to get LTE working found here. Have fun!
i think i'ma stay on this 100% ROM. i don't want to screw anything up. everything about rooting this phone is wayyyy out of my comfort zone. all the years of rooting i've done up until now was pretty much the same steps on different devices.
with that, i figure my last post should summarize this adventure.
basically, if you're in the same situation as me, getting a brand new Galaxy S4, automatically updated to 4.4.2 (NB1), here is what i went through. please see the original threads for all the download links.
NB1►DOWNGRADE★UPDATE◄MK2 ★ NB1 FULL ODIN ★ Apr.24.2014 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2663545
1. Download all three files above
2. Open ODIN3v3.09
2b. put phone into Download Mode (from a shut down state, hold the Volume Down + Home Button + Power Button to start up)
3. Load both Pit and AP together to corerct slot ( Pit >>PIT SLOT.....AP>>PDA SLOT ) and hit start.....
4. (i don't know where step 4 is)
5. When is done....reboot to stock recovery and choose Full Wipe/Factory Reset.
5b. phone may freeze at the ATT screen, i left it alone for a good few minutes. then i took the chance to power down via holding Power Button, then putting the phone into stock recovery (hold the Volume Up + Home Button + Power Button).
6. Re-Root using Saferoot Method (not really re-rooting since this is a new phone, see below)
7. Re-install Safestrap-v3.71 (and not really re-installing either, also see below)
8. Try restoring your back up from safestrap recovery....CONFIRMED WORK...
8b. i skipped step 8.
9. Special Thanks to @Michael3214 @rebel1699 @Maribou @dolph8886 @Surge1223 @jeboo for his bypasslkm exploit and others that help to get WiFi Fixed....
9b. i skipped step 9 too.
10. download custom ROM, a kernel, and follow directions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52167774&postcount=3
10b. and if needed, download modem here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52167761&postcount=2
11. and DONE, you should be on 4.4.2 again, but this time on NC1.
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ROOT Saferoot: Root for VRUEMJ7 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565758
Step 1 - setting up the USB drivers
Before you try using this rooting program, you'll need to have the USB drivers installed for your phone.
The easiest way to do this is to install Samsung Kies (Kies 3, fyi). If Kies sees your phone, you're OK for the drivers.
If you don't have the drivers working, the root installer will hang at "waiting for device..."
Step 2 - Enable USB Debugging
The second thing you must do is to enable USB debugging on your phone. Go to "Settings", "More...", then "Developer Options".
If "Developer Options" doesn't appear, then you'll need to enable it - go to "Settings", "More", "About Phone". Scroll down so the "Build Number" is visible, then tap on that several times until developer mode is enabled.
In Developer Options, make sure "USB Debugging" is checkmarked.
Step 3 - Enable USB ADB Access
Make sure that your computer is allowed to use USB debugging on your phone. To do this, unplug your phone (from the phone end, not the computer end) and unlock it. Then, plug in the USB cable back into the phone.
If you see an "Alllow USB debugging?" window pop up, tap on the "Always allow from this computer" to check it, then tap OK.
If you don't see that popup, it's OK, you should be OK to proceed.
That's it for the phone.
Step 4 - Unzip the saferoot.zip
Then you need to unpack the attached ZIP file somewhere onto your PC.
You should have the following when done:
- a file called "install.bat"
- a file called "install.sh"
- a folder called "files"
Step 5 - Root your phone
Double click on the "install.bat" to run the root. It will root and reboot your phone. Once that's done, you're rooted!
The first thing that the install script will ask you is whether or not to install Busybox. Busybox is a program that provides a fairly extensive set of Linux shell utilities that a Unix user would expect to see. If you're not going to be using the shell (terminal emulator or adb shell) then you may not want to install Busybox. You may, however, find that some root-required utilities assume that Busybox is installed.
If SuperSU asks you to update the su binary, choose the "Normal" method.
If SuperSU asks you about disabling Knox, allow it.
This exploit will NOT set the Knox Warranty Void flag. It will set the "Custom" flag, but that's nothing to worry about.
While you're running this, you'll need to keep the phone awake and watch both the computer running the rooting script and your phone.
You shouldn't unplug the phone unless you're prompted by the rooting script. Leave it connected until it's done.
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RECOVERY LOCKED Safestrap Recovery v3.71/v3.72 2014-04-02 KK Beta said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2448925
1. Requirement: Root
2. Requirement: Allow APK install from Unknown Sources
3. Download the Safestrap APK
4. Find the APK using a Filemanager tool and open it on your device, then click "Install".
5. (If updating from an existing Safestrap you might be warned that this will over-write the existing installation. Click the "Yes" equivalent to this
message.)
6. Once installed, open up the Safestrap application as you would any other app.
7. Agree to the disclaimer that you won't try to sue me and hunt me down with a rifle if you manage to break your phone..
8. Then use the "Install Recovery" button. You should see the current version down in the lower left corner of the window. And the "Status:" should say "Installed" when you're done.
9. From there you can reboot and you *should* see a new splash screen during the boot up. While this is showing you can enter Safestrap
10. Recovery using the [ menu ] button.
That's it for the installation! Read below for a brief overview of Safestrap Recovery v3.x
(this part was pretty straight forward)
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I actually searched this in depth and much to my surprise, I didn't find much. Odd.
I've got an ATT GS4 with the NC1 loaded. I'm rooted and ready to go after downloading a few files following instructions:
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Files you will need on ExtSdCard before starting:
-- Safestrap-JFLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk from here
-- ROM Install Zip (check ROM notes... may need to replace updater-script)
-- ATT_NC1_Modules.zip from here
-- UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.00.zip from here
ALL 4.4.2 ROM installs starting with rooted NC1:
0. Root and install safestrap v3.72
1. Copy remaining files above to extSdCard
2. Reboot into Safestrap Recovery
3. Wipe... Advanced Wipe... everything except extSdCard
4. Install... 4.4.2 ROM
5. Install... ATT_NC1_Modules.zip (to fix wifi)
6. Install... UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.00.zip (to keep root)
7. Reboot
8. Check APN settings and configure if necessary
I never got to the end because when I installed Safestrap, I chose "install recovery" and it went all the way to 100% and said the install was a success but for "state" it says "not installed".
Not sure what's going on. I do note that on the SafeStrap thread, it only mentions NB1 but I assumed that was the same as NC1 functionally.
I have SuperSU installed and Safestrap is listed in the apps section.
Like I said, I'm surprised I didn't find more info on this upon my searching.
Ive tried:
uninstall safestrap and superSU
reinstall
reboot multiple times in-between
Something odd that happened after I uninstalled superSU - I resbooted and what came up was a warning screen with yellow writing that warned me about installing alternative OS's. It asked if I wanted to install an alternative OS and I chose "NO" and it booted normally. Not sure where that screen came from or what it was. I never saw it again.
You need to set selinux to permissive mode and then you should be able to install safestrap recovery. Use selinuxmodechanger app for that
what's up with this software? anyone got 3.72b working on NB1?
burgertime78 said:
I actually searched this in depth and much to my surprise, I didn't find much. Odd.
I've got an ATT GS4 with the NC1 loaded. I'm rooted and ready to go after downloading a few files following instructions:
Code:
Files you will need on ExtSdCard before starting:
-- Safestrap-JFLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk from here
-- ROM Install Zip (check ROM notes... may need to replace updater-script)
-- ATT_NC1_Modules.zip from here
-- UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.00.zip from here
ALL 4.4.2 ROM installs starting with rooted NC1:
0. Root and install safestrap v3.72
1. Copy remaining files above to extSdCard
2. Reboot into Safestrap Recovery
3. Wipe... Advanced Wipe... everything except extSdCard
4. Install... 4.4.2 ROM
5. Install... ATT_NC1_Modules.zip (to fix wifi)
6. Install... UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.00.zip (to keep root)
7. Reboot
8. Check APN settings and configure if necessary
I never got to the end because when I installed Safestrap, I chose "install recovery" and it went all the way to 100% and said the install was a success but for "state" it says "not installed".
Not sure what's going on. I do note that on the SafeStrap thread, it only mentions NB1 but I assumed that was the same as NC1 functionally.
I have SuperSU installed and Safestrap is listed in the apps section.
Like I said, I'm surprised I didn't find more info on this upon my searching.
Ive tried:
uninstall safestrap and superSU
reinstall
reboot multiple times in-between
Something odd that happened after I uninstalled superSU - I resbooted and what came up was a warning screen with yellow writing that warned me about installing alternative OS's. It asked if I wanted to install an alternative OS and I chose "NO" and it booted normally. Not sure where that screen came from or what it was. I never saw it again.
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I've tried everything to load a rom onto this thing even what op replied and still nothing. My version of safestrap is 3.72 beta with NB1 4.4.2
I'm about to suck it up and stay on stock att witch i hate cause I can't use none of my tmobile features oh well. If anyone's got this working please, please let up know step by step how it was done.
Wanabedev83 said:
I've tried everything to load a rom onto this thing even what op replied and still nothing. My version of safestrap is 3.72 beta with NB1 4.4.2
I'm about to suck it up and stay on stock att witch i hate cause I can't use none of my tmobile features oh well. If anyone's got this working please, please let up know step by step how it was done.
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That worked like a charm - the SELinux change app.
Thanks JmJoyas!
burgertime78 said:
That worked like a charm - the SELinux change app.
Thanks JmJoyas!
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how are you loading the the roms? Is it threw one of the numbered slots or in the stock one? I don't wanna mess too much with the stock one but if it's the only one that work's then I guess i might give it a try.
Wanabedev83 said:
how are you loading the the roms? Is it threw one of the numbered slots or in the stock one? I don't wanna mess too much with the stock one but if it's the only one that work's then I guess i might give it a try.
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At the time of this, I had not installed any roms. This thread was because I could not get safestrap installed.
burgertime78 said:
At the time of this, I had not installed any roms. This thread was because I could not get safestrap installed.
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oh okay, cool. Do you know of a thread that you might link me to where they might be discussing that? If so link me if you can please.
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oh okay, cool. Do you know of a thread that you might link me to where they might be discussing that? If so link me if you can please.
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Not sure of a thread for that. However, last night I installed over top of my stock slot. Apparently, KitKat does not allow flashing to "rom slot 1-4" so, I just did a full backup in safe strap, then wiped the stock slot and installed over top of it. worked fine.
Ok, after my last attempt to follow the instructions and spending over a full day with a bricked phone, I don't trust myself to do it again.
But I refuse to let the bloatware have its way...
So if someone can work me through the process to installing an easy, basic ROM I would highly appreciate it.
My phone is a Samsung Galaxy s4. i337. AT&T service, and it's on stock right now. 4.4.2. That's all I can tell you, I think it's Mk2 but I'd like to be able to find a way to MAKE SURE, before I screw anything up.
I have Odin, and I'm about to root my phone. If anyone will help me I'd greatly appreciate it!
i don't think you need odin anymore since towel root. i'm fairly certain it is just root, install safestrap, flash rom, flash root and carrier modules enjoy. goldeneye is a really nice rom for these phones with all the bloat removed and a few nice tweaks and addons.
exactly what i did last time, i flashed the new goldeneye with safestrap and it was brick city for 24 hours...
everything went fine and then it went into a bootloop when it tried to restart
First thing I'd do is read through this more than once http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
Then I'd update to nc1 firmware, root with towelroot, then install safestrap 3.72
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First thing I'd do is read through this more than once http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
Then I'd update to nc1 firmware, root with towelroot, then install safestrap 3.72
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alright thanks
is there no way to just upgrade from where I am now? really would take an inferior rom over having to upgrade firmware before I...upgrade firmware.....
also how do I tell for sure what I'm on now?
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alright thanks
is there no way to just upgrade from where I am now? really would take an inferior rom over having to upgrade firmware before I...upgrade firmware.....
also how do I tell for sure what I'm on now?
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Go into settings, about phone. Look at your build number, what are the last three characters?
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Go into settings, about phone. Look at your build number, what are the last three characters?
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nb1
sweet
recommendations?
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nb1
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I'd ota to nc1. Then you can use towel root to root
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I'd ota to nc1. Then you can use towel root to root
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Damani311-
You're on NB1 stock ROM, but I bet your baseband is actually NC1, based on the description here and in our PMs about your current status.
Like JD said, you can go into the phone's settings, and see if it takes the OTA update to NC1. That's the easiest way to get there. Alternatively, you can download the NC1 update zip file (from here) and flash it in the stock recovery. You get into stock recovery by starting with power off, and doing a power/home/upvolume start up. In there, there are options to install update from SD card. See the All things ATT & related links for the details. It's handy to have that NC1 updater zip. It's just an update that needs to be applied on top of NB1... it's not a replacement for starting with NB1.
Then, root with towel root. Install SuperSU from play store and let it disable knox. (may need to reboot phone after installing SuperSU if it hangs). Install SELinux Mode Changer from play store and set to permissive. Install SafeSTrap (from here). Note, there seems to be a zip file with lots of these goodies pre-included as a variant of the NC1 zip, at the same location quoted above. I haven't used that version, but it's probably fine.
Boot to safestrap. Very important: THOROUGHLY WIPE THE SYSTEM BEFORE FLASHING THE ROM. This means go into advanced wipe and wipe everything but the external SD card. Some folks say do it three times... seems to me there's a problem if doing it once doesn't work...
Then while still in safestrap recovery flash the GoldenEye ROM to the stock slot (our version of Safestrap only supports the stock slot). When it flashes, it brings up the Aroma installer. Choose the ATT / Safestrap options. When it finishes DO NOT DO NOT!! reboot. Exit the installer without letting it reboot and go back to safestrap. Some people recommend wiping the cache/dalvik caches again after flashing the rom (but of course you wouldn't wipe system at this point!).
While still in SafeStrap recovery:
-Flash SuperSU.zip file. (from here)
-Then flash the NC1 modem zip file (from here).
-Finally flash the I337 build.prop/APN zip (from here) . You could also manually enter the APN info (from the All Things ATT 1st post) but it is unclear to me whether GoldenEye properly identifies the phone build.prop entries with everything needed to be able to download all the I337 apps. I used the zip file and everything worked out great.
That's the overview. Detailed instructions are in the various threads. It sounds awfully complex but once you've done it a few times it all makes sense and is easy. But forgetting to do the wipes, or omitting SuperSu or any of the little details can cause a failure.
Takes ~5-10 mins for first boot, as I recall. I was nervous when it took so long. I left it, started cooking dinner, came back in a bit, it was done.
Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
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Damani311-
You're on NB1 stock ROM, but I bet your baseband is actually NC1, based on the description here and in our PMs about your current status.
Like JD said, you can go into the phone's settings, and see if it takes the OTA update to NC1. That's the easiest way to get there. Alternatively, you can download the NC1 update zip file (from here) and flash it in the stock recovery. You get into stock recovery by starting with power off, and doing a power/home/upvolume start up. In there, there are options to install update from SD card. See the All things ATT & related links for the details. It's handy to have that NC1 updater zip. It's just an update that needs to be applied on top of NB1... it's not a replacement for starting with NB1.
Then, root with towel root. Install SuperSU from play store and let it disable knox. (may need to reboot phone after installing SuperSU if it hangs). Install SELinux Mode Changer from play store and set to permissive. Install SafeSTrap (from here). Note, there seems to be a zip file with lots of these goodies pre-included as a variant of the NC1 zip, at the same location quoted above. I haven't used that version, but it's probably fine.
Boot to safestrap. Very important: THOROUGHLY WIPE THE SYSTEM BEFORE FLASHING THE ROM. This means go into advanced wipe and wipe everything but the external SD card. Some folks say do it three times... seems to me there's a problem if doing it once doesn't work...
Then while still in safestrap recovery flash the GoldenEye ROM. When it flashes, it brings up the Aroma installer. Choose the ATT / Safestrap options. When it finishes DO NOT DO NOT!! reboot. Exit the installer without letting it reboot and go back to safestrap. Some people recommend wiping the cache/dalvik caches again after flashing the rom (but of course you wouldn't wipe system at this point!).
While still in SafeStrap recovery:
-Flash SuperSU.zip file. (from here)
-Then flash the NC1 modem zip file (from here).
-Finally flash the I337 build.prop/APN zip (from here) . You could also manually enter the APN info (from the All Things ATT 1st post) but it is unclear to me whether GoldenEye properly identifies the phone build.prop entries with everything needed to be able to download all the I337 apps. I used the zip file and everything worked out great.
That's the overview. Detailed instructions are in the various threads. It sounds awfully complex but once you've done it a few times it all makes sense and is easy. But forgetting to do the wipes, or omitting SuperSu or any of the little details can cause a failure.
Takes ~5-10 mins for first boot, as I recall. I was nervous when it took so long. I left it, started cooking dinner, came back in a bit, it was done.
Good luck. Let us know how it turns out.
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wow awesome dude thanks a ton!
got to the part after installing safestrap, where it's time for goldeneye
which version of the rom should i use? the newest one got me in big trouble last time?
and so I'm going to need 4 zip files on my phone before i flash ROM?
Flash Goldeneye
-Flash SuperSU.zip file. (from here)
-Then flash the NC1 modem zip file (from here).
-Finally flash the I337 build.prop/APN zip
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If so i'll proceed.....thanks again
I'm using Golden Eye v36. However, I've seen folks saying v38 (current) is good too... not sure where the problem cropped up with your last attempt so I can't speculate what the problem was.
And you're right, there should be 4 zip files on your SD card. The ROM, SuperSU, NC1 module, and the ATT APN/BuildProp file, which may not be necessary but worked fine for me.
alright looks like I'm up and running! wifi doesnt work, I think that's the only issue I can detect so far.........
WiFi fail usually fixed by flashing module matching your baseband. If nc1 module doesn't fix it, try nb1.
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WiFi fail usually fixed by flashing module matching your baseband. If nc1 module doesn't fix it, try nb1.
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i was hoping that was it, but it didn't get it....shoot
thanks for helping me out here
i flashed the jfleatt nb1 modules, btw
I'm out of ideas, sorry! Maybe start a thread about module not restoring WiFi after flash. My one relevant data point is that once, instead of Odin NB1 then flash NC1 update, I odined the rootable NB1. After that I did safestrap and flashed a ROM plus modules. I was never able to get WiFi no matter what I flashed. Odined back to regular NB1 then did NC1 update. Flashed ROM and modules again... Success. I assume kernel (locked on nc1 for me) has to interact with ROM and module. Improper match causes fail. Are you certain of what baseband you have?
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Did you do the Selinux thingy--:good:
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Did you do the Selinux thingy--:good:
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Damani311,
Were you able to sort out the WiFi? Poking around the internet it does seem like permission issues are often at root of it, and the Selinux Mode Changer mentioned above (set to permissive) might be the solution.
Good luck! :good:
I think he is sorted based on posts on other threads. Maybe he will let us know--:good:
In just a couple of words, here's a basic overview of the ROM-flashing process:
- Root using Towelroot
- Install SuperSU
- Install Safestrap
- Download ROM
- Download modules
- Flash both
- Reboot
- Enjoy
Just make sure that whatever firmware you're on matches the ROM and modules (ex. NB1 users flash NB1 ROMs or MK2 ROMs and NB1 modules)
Best of luck! :good::good::good:
Appreciate your reply, but think OP is sorted and never came back--
Hello all! I am newly signed up but i have been lurking in here for quite a while now. I am like that I usually try not to post and just figure out what I need to do by research and trial and error! But lately I think i may have too much research. I have spent the last week looking up and trying to figure out what I need to do to get what I want lol.
I have a Verizon SM-G900V which has been rooted with towel root, using the flash back to NCG method. I have installed SuperSU, Flashfire, and, BusyBox.
I want to upgrade my OS to the newest version,(5.1 Lollipop I believe?) while retaining root and allowing me to wi-fi tether. What I am not sure about is how to go about this properly. I was about to install Safestrap but I am not sure it is compatible with my build which somehow magically changed to NE when I looked at my About Phone in Settings. I am actually not even sure I need Safestrap either because I have read many conflicting tutorials and info in the past week of research. I am totally new to Safestrap and have never used a custom rom before. I have however rooted my S5 and gotten it to tether fine but then I made sure never to OTA update. Recently was forced to factory restore because if what I assume where Touchwiz problems(The problems have been gone since I reset) and now I would like to see if I can upgrade my OS .
Any help would be awesome and some points in the right direction much appreciated.
SafeStrap is a little inconvenient to use in Lollipop, but it's a great safety net to keep in place. It allows you to take a snapshot of your system and restore it later. If you lack this safety net and something goes wrong with your OS, you have no choice but to start from scratch.
All you have to do to use SafeStrap with Lollipop: flash a KitKat kernel (you can do this with the NL1 flasher app) from the phone while it's running Lollipop, reboot into SafeStrap, and do what you have to do. You then must re-flash a "safestrap-flashable" Lollipop kernel from within SafeStrap before you leave it, or your operating system won't be able to boot.
As for upgrading, see this thread and links within it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/help/help-upgrading-rooted-nk7-verizon-s5-t3302438
Your firmware version is different but it's still KitKat, so all of the same advice applies.
So I would definitely have to flash back to NCG in order to install safestrap right? because I am NE right now
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So I would definitely have to flash back to NCG in order to install safestrap right? because I am NE right now
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Have you try this? you will have root on the latest factory firmware and able to install Safestrap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
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Have you try this? you will have root on the latest factory firmware and able to install Safestrap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
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I just want to be clear. I should go through all the steps listed in that thread to achieve what I want? Even tho I am on a 4.4.2 build and not a 5.0?
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I just want to be clear. I should go through all the steps listed in that thread to achieve what I want? Even tho I am on a 4.4.2 build and not a 5.0?
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That would work, as it involves flashing a BOK3 factory image and then rooting it.
You could do that, or you could just do the "keep root" method, which I had linked to in the thread I sent you to for explanation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
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That would work, as it involves flashing a BOK3 factory image and then rooting it.
You could do that, or you could just do the "keep root" method, which I had linked to in the thread I sent you to for explanation. http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...w-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
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So the method you are linking above would be the better route to go, correct? Because the other method would update my bootloader to BOK3 which wont let me downgrade to NCG if I want to easy root again, right?
Sorry for all the questions here I just wanna make sure I get it right.
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So the method you are linking above would be the better route to go, correct? Because the other method would update my bootloader to BOK3 which wont let me downgrade to NCG if I want to easy root again, right?
Sorry for all the questions here I just wanna make sure I get it right.
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Both root methods will work for you. The advantage of the "Keep Root" method I linked to is that you would still be able to downgrade later. As long as you don't flash anything with a BOE or newer bootloader, you can downgrade. So BOD is safe, BOE1, BOG5, and BOK3 can not be downgraded.
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Both root methods will work for you. The advantage of the "Keep Root" method I linked to is that you would still be able to downgrade later. As long as you don't flash anything with a BOE or newer bootloader, you can downgrade. So BOD is safe, BOE1, BOG5, and BOK3 can not be downgraded.
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OK so I am gonna go with your linked method. I dont wanna get stuck with one of those bootloaders. I should still be able to use safestrap with your method right? And tho I have never done it before I was entertaining the idea of flashing a custom ROM. That should still be possible with your method, correct?
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OK so I am gonna go with your linked method. I dont wanna get stuck with one of those bootloaders. I should still be able to use safestrap with your method right? And tho I have never done it before I was entertaining the idea of flashing a custom ROM. That should still be possible with your method, correct?
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You can use SafeStrap with either method. But when you're on Lollipop, you must flash a kitkat kernel to boot into safestrap, then you must re-flash your lollipop kernel BEFORE leaving SafeStrap or you won't be able to boot into Lollipop. It's not as complicated as it sounds.
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You can use SafeStrap with either method. But when you're on Lollipop, you must flash a kitkat kernel to boot into safestrap, then you must re-flash your lollipop kernel BEFORE leaving SafeStrap or you won't be able to boot into Lollipop. It's not as complicated as it sounds.
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Yea I know, all of this sounds complicated but I understand it lol. But would I still be able to use a custom ROM using your method, I dont see why I couldnt, I just want to make sure I am ok?
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Yea I know, all of this sounds complicated but I understand it lol. But would I still be able to use a custom ROM using your method, I dont see why I couldnt, I just want to make sure I am ok?
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Yes. You can use any TouchWiz-based ROM, all of which can be found in the "Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development" section of the forum, and no other section.
ROMs can be flashed using SafeStrap or with Flashfire.
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Yes. You can use any TouchWiz-based ROM, all of which can be found in the "Verizon Galaxy S 5 Android Development" section of the forum, and no other section.
ROMs can be flashed using SafeStrap or with Flashfire.
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Im just barely familiar with SafeStrap, and have never ever used FlashFire. Which of the 2 would you say is better to use?
I also wanted to thank you for all this help and answering my constant questions. Thank you very much!
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Im just barely familiar with SafeStrap, and have never ever used FlashFire. Which of the 2 would you say is better to use?
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I have a slight preference for SafeStrap because I am accustomed to using custom recovery environments on previous phones (ClockworkMod Recovery, and later TWRP). SafeStrap is a modified TWRP environment, customized to work within the limitations imposed by the Verizon S5's locked bootloader.
FlashFire can do nearly everything that SafeStrap can do, the difference being is that it functions like an app. It's also more convenient to flash zips if you're on lollipop, because you don't have to **** around with flashing different kernels to boot into it, you just open the app, select the zip, and flash it. The downside to this is that if your OS is completely screwed up and won't boot, you can't access FlashFire.
But if that happens and you have SafeStrap recovery environment installed, you can flash a kitkat kernel with Odin and boot into SafeStrap to restore your nandroid backup, then flash a lollipop kernel and boot into your now-working phone.
For those reasons, I find it advantageous to use both.
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I also wanted to thank you for all this help and answering my constant questions. Thank you very much!
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You're quite welcome
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I have a slight preference for SafeStrap because I am accustomed to using custom recovery environments on previous phones (ClockworkMod Recovery, and later TWRP). SafeStrap is a modified TWRP environment, customized to work within the limitations imposed by the Verizon S5's locked bootloader.
FlashFire can do nearly everything that SafeStrap can do, the difference being is that it functions like an app. It's also more convenient to flash zips if you're on lollipop, because you don't have to **** around with flashing different kernels to boot into it, you just open the app, select the zip, and flash it. The downside to this is that if your OS is completely screwed up and won't boot, you can't access FlashFire.
But if that happens and you have SafeStrap recovery environment installed, you can flash a kitkat kernel with Odin and boot into SafeStrap to restore your nandroid backup, then flash a lollipop kernel and boot into your now-working phone.
For those reasons, I find it advantageous to use both.
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You're quite welcome
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OK so both it is lol. I see in the link to the thread which has the keep root tutorial it has 2 extra files a tether file and a batch de-bloater. I understand what the tether is but what exactly is the de-bloater? Also how do I install them, cause I definitely want the tether? Also, I noticed that my phone has some gone to a NE9 kitkat build, I would have to reflash to NCG, reroot and then install safestrap correct?
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OK so both it is lol. I see in the link to the thread which has the keep root tutorial it has 2 extra files a tether file and a batch de-bloater. I understand what the tether is but what exactly is the de-bloater? Also how do I install them, cause I definitely want the tether? Also, I noticed that my phone has some gone to a NE9 kitkat build, I would have to reflash to NCG, reroot and then install safestrap correct?
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The de-bloater is just a script that deletes unnecessary apps that came pre-installed on the phone. You use it by flashing the debloater zip in either SafeStrap or FlashFire. Personally, I prefer to use Titanium Backup to "freeze" the unwanted apps, because they can be easily reactivated if necessary. Once those apps are deleted by the debloater, you can't retrieve them. Probably everything in the script needs to die anyway, but if you actually like any of the extra stuff that came on your phone you'll want to avoid using that method.
The tether patch is installed the same way, by flashing it, but you only need it if you're staying with the stock OS. If you're installing a custom ROM, don't bother because they will have already implemented it.
If your phone says NE9 but it is rooted, don't worry about it. You'd only need to flash the NCG kernel if you have to use towelroot to regain root access. So just install SafeStrap and/or FlashFire.
Then do a nandroid backup in SafeStrap of your current setup. That way, if something goes catastrophically wrong with your Lollipop upgrade adventure you can, with a little work, get back to where you are now with all of your apps and settings intact.
Then flash the rooted Lollipop image in the "Keep Root" method thread.
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The de-bloater is just a script that deletes unnecessary apps that came pre-installed on the phone. You use it by flashing the debloater zip in either SafeStrap or FlashFire. Personally, I prefer to use Titanium Backup to "freeze" the unwanted apps, because they can be easily reactivated if necessary. Once those apps are deleted by the debloater, you can't retrieve them. Probably everything in the script needs to die anyway, but if you actually like any of the extra stuff that came on your phone you'll want to avoid using that method.
The tether patch is installed the same way, by flashing it, but you only need it if you're staying with the stock OS. If you're installing a custom ROM, don't bother because they will have already implemented it.
If your phone says NE9 but it is rooted, don't worry about it. You'd only need to flash the NCG kernel if you have to use towelroot to regain root access. So just install SafeStrap and/or FlashFire.
Then do a nandroid backup in SafeStrap of your current setup. That way, if something goes catastrophically wrong with your Lollipop upgrade adventure you can, with a little work, get back to where you are now with all of your apps and settings intact.
Then flash the rooted Lollipop image in the "Keep Root" method thread.
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Cool, awesome thank you. So if I am running lollipop, I would have to use Odin to flash a kitkat kernel if I wanted to access to safestrap, right? It would need to be a rooted kernel too, right? Also was wondering if you could point me in the direction of the proper kernels I need. I have seen so many different NCG and other build kernels I am not sure which I should DL.
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Cool, awesome thank you. So if I am running lollipop, I would have to use Odin to flash a kitkat kernel if I wanted to access to safestrap, right? It would need to be a rooted kernel too, right? Also was wondering if you could point me in the direction of the proper kernels I need. I have seen so many different NCG and other build kernels I am not sure which I should DL.
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Yes, flash a KitKat kernel to get into SafeStrap from Lollipop. I don't think it matters which version.
NCG, NE9, NHA, NI2, and NK2 are all KitKat.
OA8, OC4, OD5, OE1, OG5, and OK3 are all Lollipop.
You can use the NI2flasher.apk (but I've seen reports that it doesn't always work), or you can flash it with Odin (which is a little less convenient, but does work well). You should keep an NCG kernel around for re-rooting in case you have to start over, and that one should work for booting into SafeStrap.
Flashing any "kernel only" file won't change your root status. Basically, the kernel is the layer that allows the hardware and the operating system (firmware and such) to communicate with each other. Root access lies entirely within the configuration of the operating system: flashing a kernel will not affect it, but flashing a different firmware will overwrite it.
KERNELS themselves are always safe to flash, but if the operating system can't use it that kernel it will simply get stuck early in the boot sequence. This is always reversible by flashing the proper kernel.
However, be very cautious about FIRMWARE zips, unless they specifically say they're safe for newer bootloaders. Firmware files also contain bootloaders, and flashing the wrong newer (BOE and up) bootloader will burn your bridge back to BOD5 and below, and if you're already on BOE or newer then flashing an older bootloader over it will brick your phone. Stick with jrkruse's "firmware only no bootloaders" files. Currently, his "BOK3 firmware with BOD5 bootloader" is the latest safe version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/g900vvru2bog5-factoryodintarimage-t3179527. So, to be clear: Flashing an OE1 or newer bootloader trips a qfuse that makes it impossible to downgrade the bootloader.
For the KitKat kernels, the ones posted here work fine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
For the Lollipop kernels, stick with jrkruse's updated ones that he has in the second post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
I've found with previous phones that it is advantageous to download and keep such files as soon as I find them, because experience has taught me that they're typically only posted in one place and they tend to disappear as the posters later lose interest in that model.
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Yes, flash a KitKat kernel to get into SafeStrap from Lollipop. I don't think it matters which version.
NCG, NE9, NHA, NI2, and NK2 are all KitKat.
OA8, OC4, OD5, OE1, OG5, and OK3 are all Lollipop.
You can use the NI2flasher.apk (but I've seen reports that it doesn't always work), or you can flash it with Odin (which is a little less convenient, but does work well). You should keep an NCG kernel around for re-rooting in case you have to start over, and that one should work for booting into SafeStrap.
Flashing any "kernel only" file won't change your root status. Basically, the kernel is the layer that allows the hardware and the operating system (firmware and such) to communicate with each other. Root access lies entirely within the configuration of the operating system: flashing a kernel will not affect it, but flashing a different firmware will overwrite it.
KERNELS themselves are always safe to flash, but if the operating system can't use it that kernel it will simply get stuck early in the boot sequence. This is always reversible by flashing the proper kernel.
However, be very cautious about FIRMWARE zips, unless they specifically say they're safe for newer bootloaders. Firmware files also contain bootloaders, and flashing the wrong newer (BOE and up) bootloader will burn your bridge back to BOD5 and below, and if you're already on BOE or newer then flashing an older bootloader over it will brick your phone. Stick with jrkruse's "firmware only no bootloaders" files. Currently, his "BOK3 firmware with BOD5 bootloader" is the latest safe version: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/g900vvru2bog5-factoryodintarimage-t3179527. So, to be clear: Flashing an OE1 or newer bootloader trips a qfuse that makes it impossible to downgrade the bootloader.
For the KitKat kernels, the ones posted here work fine: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2784880
For the Lollipop kernels, stick with jrkruse's updated ones that he has in the second post of this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/root-method-og5-ok3-t3290370
I've found with previous phones that it is advantageous to download and keep such files as soon as I find them, because experience has taught me that they're typically only posted in one place and they tend to disappear as the posters later lose interest in that model.
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OK rooted phone all went well. Installed Tether patch and now when I connect to wifi it doesnt work. I get a DNS error message in my browser and play store wont work, basically nothing will work when I am connected to wifi. Any thoughts on what to do? Was thinking maybe of going to jkruse's custom rom but not sure if that will help. If I do go to that rom will I need to go back to Kitkat or can I just use a flashfire and flash as is?
Update: The DNS error I seem to have fixed, but my question still stands for the jkruse's ROM. Also is it better to use a custom ROM? I have never really used one, so I am curious.
Ohh and you have been so much help painiac I really appreciate you answering all my questions. I was really at a standstill for a while there. You are truly a helpful person and I thank you.
Is there anybody that has been able to root their at&t note 3 on android 5.0. I bought an at&t note 3 the other day and have been looking for a way to root it but have not found one yet. Please help me.
Absolutely. I just arrived at work or I would post a full detailed guide, but here's the run down.
You have to downgrade from 5.0 (OC1) to 4.2.2 (NC2).
Once you've done that, root with towelroot.apk, install SuperSU (I prefer chainfire), then install Busybox, (I prefer Stephan Erickson) and then finally, install Safestrap Recovery V3.75.
Then boot into Safestrap recovery, wipe/factory reset, and then flash the ROM you want.
I would gladly post links to everything but as I said, I'm at work. If nobody else does before I clock out. I'll definitely help you out.
im not the poster, but I would like the info if you dont mind. Thank you.
phlashb4k said:
Absolutely. I just arrived at work or I would post a full detailed guide, but here's the run down.
You have to downgrade from 5.0 (OC1) to 4.2.2 (NC2).
Once you've done that, root with towelroot.apk, install SuperSU (I prefer chainfire), then install Busybox, (I prefer Stephan Erickson) and then finally, install Safestrap Recovery V3.75.
Then boot into Safestrap recovery, wipe/factory reset, and then flash the ROM you want.
I would gladly post links to everything but as I said, I'm at work. If nobody else does before I clock out. I'll definitely help you out.
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im not the poster, but I would like the info if you dont mind. Thank you.
Did anyone ever figure out how to root this phone yet
Read above...
Sorry guys work got the best of me. I just got permission from a couple of developers to re-do a thread that elaborates more into how to root, flash etc. So that will be up by the end of the week (hopefully). My method I will be posting is completely different than what I'm telling you here. Because my guide will let you flash an a single file using flashfire that will already have root, xposed, viper audio, + extras already installed and configured. What I'm posting below is the main method being used.
In the mean time:
Download and install Samsung Mobile Drivers http://developer.samsung.com/technical-doc/view.do?v=T000000117, Reboot before connecting your phone.
Download https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95784891001615211 - This is a stock NC2 (Android 4.4.2) image you will flash to down grade from 5.0. (Temporarily).
Download Towelroot https://towelroot.com/tr.apk - This is towelroot, it exploits a vulnerability in android 4.4.2 that allows you to gain root without even rebooting your phone.
Download SuperSU https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip?retrieve_file=1 - You can of course user any superuser app. I am personally a big supporter of Chainfire and his applications.
Download Safestrap Safestrap-KLTEVZW-NCG-3.75-B03.apk http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=4718#downloads - This will be your recovery.
Download Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711451 Make sure it's version 3.10.0 and only download odin from that post please. There are obnoxious amounts of fake odin downloads that come up in a google search that may contain malicious code.
Don't forget Busybox https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
Also download any ROM you want to flash, BEFORE doing this. Unless of course you want to stay on rooted 4.2.2
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0. Backup. Back up everything.
1. Place Towelroot, SuperSU, Safestrap, and Busybox on your SD card.
2. Bring your phone into download mode. (Power Button+Volume Down+Home Button)
3. Connect your phone to your computer using usb. (Back of the computer usb is always better)
-Make sure you installed the Samsung Drivers
4. Bring up odin and place N900AUCUCNC2_Full_Odin_Tar.tar.md5 file in the AP slot. (Odin might hangup and freeze for a minute. It's normal, don't click or do anything, just wait.)
5. Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time on odin should already be checked. Just make sure.
6. Under ID:COM on odin, it should read 0:[COM4] in light-ish blue color.
7. Odins message should read <ID:0/004> Added!!
--Numbers might be different for each person.
8. Click Start and wait a while. After 15-20 minutes your phone will eventually boot into Android 4.4.2
And in this exact order:
9. Install Towelroot and click 'make it rain'
10. Install SuperSU, Be sure to disable knox when it asks. If it hangs at all just force close SuperSU and try again.
11. Install Busybox
12. Install Safestrap
Done.
When you want to flash a ROM simply place it on your SD card and flash it using Safestrap. Make sure when flashing that the ROM comes with the OC1 kernel. If it doesn't you'll need to flash it after flashing the ROM.
As I said above I'm going to be posting an entire thread this week dedicated to rooting, flashing, and working with this phone. It's going to have the most updated information that I have and an easier and quicker method that doesn't require Safestrap. I'm going to ask mods and hopefully it will get a sticky.
Thank you!! I`m going to try this tonight. I`ll let you if I can pull it off. Looking forward to your new thread too. Thanks again!!
Quick question phlashb4k, the first step in your guide ( 1. Place Towelroot, SuperSU, Safestrap, and Busybox on your SD card.), the link you posted for busybox is for the play store app. Is there a zip file for it elsewhere. I can`t download the app to my sd card.. Could I install it from the play store after I`ve downgraded from 5.0 to 4.4.2? I`ve searched this site and googled for a while and I still cant do it. Everything else is ready ready to go. Thanks in advance.
I am new to the root process and must also down grade to 4.4.2, can i re-upgrade to 5.0 after the root some how while maintaining my root?
Safestrap
Without question Safestrap is the biggest problem for me
The newer version B03 would not boot to recovery
I had to go back to B01
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Upon boot it installs 262 "updates" fro AT&T
Using the rooted file from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2
Last time it sent me into a boot loop after the updates.
I did get it to run for a while.
Trying the complete stagefright fix also
Which I can't seem to find the link to right this instant.
Constantly get
Unfortunately, the process
com.google.process.gaaps has stopped errors
Thought I had it fixed at one pint but it is a problem again.
this seems to help
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/04/...ogle-process-gapps-has-stopped-error-message/
working on it.
ddamm07 said:
Quick question phlashb4k, the first step in your guide ( 1. Place Towelroot, SuperSU, Safestrap, and Busybox on your SD card.), the link you posted for busybox is for the play store app. Is there a zip file for it elsewhere. I can`t download the app to my sd card.. Could I install it from the play store after I`ve downgraded from 5.0 to 4.4.2? I`ve searched this site and googled for a while and I still cant do it. Everything else is ready ready to go. Thanks in advance.
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Yes you can install directly from the Playstore or flash a zip file. Either works just fine as long as everything is installed in the correct order you'll be good to go. Allow me a bit and I can upload the .apk directly to my google drive account and provide a link. You could really download SuperSU and Busybox from the Playstore if you wanted to. It just takes a bit longer.
Gonobn said:
I am new to the root process and must also down grade to 4.4.2, can i re-upgrade to 5.0 after the root some how while maintaining my root?
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Of course. After you downgrade you then have access to Safestrap, which is a custom recovery environment you use to flash ROMs with. (Almost) every ROM for our phones already have SuperSU installed, if it doesn't it will specify in the thread that you need to flash SuperSU using Safestrap. But there's only a few that require it. Most of them already include the OC1 kernel inside the ROM as well. (OC1 is the only kernel that will run 5.0 on our phones).
rlj4214 said:
Without question Safestrap is the biggest problem for me
The newer version B03 would not boot to recovery
I had to go back to B01
---------- Post added at 08:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 AM ----------
Upon boot it installs 262 "updates" fro AT&T
Using the rooted file from
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59666958&postcount=2
Last time it sent me into a boot loop after the updates.
I did get it to run for a while.
Trying the complete stagefright fix also
Which I can't seem to find the link to right this instant.
Constantly get
Unfortunately, the process
com.google.process.gaaps has stopped errors
Thought I had it fixed at one pint but it is a problem again.
this seems to help
http://www.teamandroid.com/2013/04/...ogle-process-gapps-has-stopped-error-message/
working on it.
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If the following doesn't help please explain your problem in a little more detail for me, write out each step you are doing and I will try to see which might be causing the issue.
Safestrap is very touchy and actually isn't compatible with 5.0 (OC1). To boot into Safestrap after flashing 5.0, if you want to do a backup (which I wouldn't recommend with safestrap, I've personally only had bad luck) you need to either flash the NC2 kernel with odin, or download and install http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/nc2-flasher-app-unsafe-t2989141. I suggest downloading the .apk. All you do is flash the NC2 kernel with the flasher app and it will automatically boot you into safestrap. After you do whatever it is you need to do, (flash patches, etc) you then flash the OC1 kernel and reboot. OC1 kernel can be found here: https://mega.co.nz/#!fAcA3JhL!-hK_TU6NamIJdvgwWdZ90VmOwBdRBxSL70VgC4sILwc
To fix your Playstore issue, remove any Playstore updates you have, then download and install the latest version from here: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-store/
Well I was was able to down grade with out a hitch. If I knew it was so simple, I would have done it a long time ago. I finally was able find all the info I needed about ROMs available and how to`s but before I start flashing, I`m going to have do a lot more reading on this awesome site. Now since my note 3 is no longer in service and out of warranty, I`m assuming I don`t have to settle for a at&t rom. I`m just going to use as a little tablet with just wifi and bluetooth. That is after have used it as a guinea pig, then I`ll start on rooting my note 4. Thanks again for your help in getting me going, phlashb4k.:good:
phlashb4k said:
Yes you can install directly from the Playstore or flash a zip file. Either works just fine as long as everything is installed in the correct order you'll be good to go. Allow me a bit and I can upload the .apk directly to my google drive account and provide a link. You could really download SuperSU and Busybox from the Playstore if you wanted to. It just takes a bit longer.
Of course. After you downgrade you then have access to Safestrap, which is a custom recovery environment you use to flash ROMs with. (Almost) every ROM for our phones already have SuperSU installed, if it doesn't it will specify in the thread that you need to flash SuperSU using Safestrap. But there's only a few that require it. Most of them already include the OC1 kernel inside the ROM as well. (OC1 is the only kernel that will run 5.0 on our phones).
If the following doesn't help please explain your problem in a little more detail for me, write out each step you are doing and I will try to see which might be causing the issue.
Safestrap is very touchy and actually isn't compatible with 5.0 (OC1). To boot into Safestrap after flashing 5.0, if you want to do a backup (which I wouldn't recommend with safestrap, I've personally only had bad luck) you need to either flash the NC2 kernel with odin, or download and install http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att/development/nc2-flasher-app-unsafe-t2989141. I suggest downloading the .apk. All you do is flash the NC2 kernel with the flasher app and it will automatically boot you into safestrap. After you do whatever it is you need to do, (flash patches, etc) you then flash the OC1 kernel and reboot. OC1 kernel can be found here: https://mega.co.nz/#!fAcA3JhL!-hK_TU6NamIJdvgwWdZ90VmOwBdRBxSL70VgC4sILwc
To fix your Playstore issue, remove any Playstore updates you have, then download and install the latest version from here: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/google-inc/google-play-store/
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Playstore is fixed. Got that done last night.
Now I have another issue that I am about to butt heads with.
"Emergency calls only"
BS My bill is paid what is with these jackasses at AT&T
Attacking it now.
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rlj4214 said:
Playstore is fixed. Got that done last night.
Now I have another issue that I am about to butt heads with.
"Emergency calls only"
BS My bill is paid what is with these jackasses at AT&T
Attacking it now.
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It was like talking to Time Warner.
Reboot it.
I understand sir, just reboot it.
Something in their network failed.
So now that I'm off the roof.
The safestrap that you had a link to wouldn't run at all.
I mean it loads and looks like it works tells me that it is installed and that the recovery is installed but won't boot to recovery. That is with mine Safestrap-HLTE-3.72-kk-B01.apk
That is the same thing that happened with your version Safestrap-KLTEVZW-NCG-3.75-B03.apk
I finally unloaded everything and started over from 4.4.2 factory stock
order that I got to work was
towelroot
su
busybox pro
safestrap B03
uninstall safestrap B03
uinstall busybox and install it again
install safestrap B01
uninstall B01
restart busybox pro
install B01
And finally I got it to show up correctly and boot properly, recovery and all.
Everything installed but now........
It wants to "update again"
Every time it updates, it crashes the system and I start over.
Gonna try it one more time and then go back to rooted 4.4.2 probably if it doesn't work.
I wonder if Verizon is this bad.
It's like when I had Time Warner's all in one router modem. Crash o matic every time they "updated" something
Now with an Asus RT-68U and Motorola modem I'm fine.
Incorporated the stagefright fix I mentioned earlier and it got all but one file.
Shows good in Lookout but CCVE-2051-6602 shows up in Ziperium.
Just turned off auto mms for this second and see what AT&T screws up with their update her when it finishes.
It's been a long ugly day and has nothing to do with this but I'm tired.
Thank you very much for your post and your help.
Take Care
Could you upload a screen shot(s) of your modem and kernel version .
Verizons Note 3 doesn't have a locked bootloader. Just AT&Ts. Which is why we have to jump to get root and such
phlashb4k said:
Sorry guys work got the best of me. I just got permission from a couple of developers to re-do a thread that elaborates more into how to root, flash etc. So that will be up by the end of the week (hopefully). My method I will be posting is completely different than what I'm telling you here. Because my guide will let you flash an a single file using flashfire that will already have root, xposed, viper audio, + extras already installed and configured. What I'm posting below is the main method being used.
In the mean time:
Download and install Samsung Mobile Drivers http://developer.samsung.com/technical-doc/view.do?v=T000000117, Reboot before connecting your phone.
Download https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95784891001615211 - This is a stock NC2 (Android 4.4.2) image you will flash to down grade from 5.0. (Temporarily).
Download Towelroot https://towelroot.com/tr.apk - This is towelroot, it exploits a vulnerability in android 4.4.2 that allows you to gain root without even rebooting your phone.
Download SuperSU https://download.chainfire.eu/696/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.46.zip?retrieve_file=1 - You can of course user any superuser app. I am personally a big supporter of Chainfire and his applications.
Download Safestrap Safestrap-KLTEVZW-NCG-3.75-B03.apk http://forum.xda-developers.com/devdb/project/?id=4718#downloads - This will be your recovery.
Download Odin http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2711451 Make sure it's version 3.10.0 and only download odin from that post please. There are obnoxious amounts of fake odin downloads that come up in a google search that may contain malicious code.
Don't forget Busybox https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stericson.busybox&hl=en
Also download any ROM you want to flash, BEFORE doing this. Unless of course you want to stay on rooted 4.2.2
----
0. Backup. Back up everything.
1. Place Towelroot, SuperSU, Safestrap, and Busybox on your SD card.
2. Bring your phone into download mode. (Power Button+Volume Down+Home Button)
3. Connect your phone to your computer using usb. (Back of the computer usb is always better)
-Make sure you installed the Samsung Drivers
4. Bring up odin and place N900AUCUCNC2_Full_Odin_Tar.tar.md5 file in the AP slot. (Odin might hangup and freeze for a minute. It's normal, don't click or do anything, just wait.)
5. Auto Reboot and F. Reset Time on odin should already be checked. Just make sure.
6. Under ID:COM on odin, it should read 0:[COM4] in light-ish blue color.
7. Odins message should read <ID:0/004> Added!!
--Numbers might be different for each person.
8. Click Start and wait a while. After 15-20 minutes your phone will eventually boot into Android 4.4.2
And in this exact order:
9. Install Towelroot and click 'make it rain'
10. Install SuperSU, Be sure to disable knox when it asks. If it hangs at all just force close SuperSU and try again.
11. Install Busybox
12. Install Safestrap
Done.
When you want to flash a ROM simply place it on your SD card and flash it using Safestrap. Make sure when flashing that the ROM comes with the OC1 kernel. If it doesn't you'll need to flash it after flashing the ROM.
As I said above I'm going to be posting an entire thread this week dedicated to rooting, flashing, and working with this phone. It's going to have the most updated information that I have and an easier and quicker method that doesn't require Safestrap. I'm going to ask mods and hopefully it will get a sticky.
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Yea!!!
It updated and just said it failed but didn't crash the phone.
I'll have a beer now.
It looked like it was a KNOX update which is disabled.
Score one for the good guys. me me me me me
Thank you so very much for your help and putting up with me.
Have a great evening,,, and a beer.
screenshot you requested
phlashb4k said:
Could you upload a screen shot(s) of your modem and kernel version .
Verizons Note 3 doesn't have a locked bootloader. Just AT&Ts. Which is why we have to jump to get root and such
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So the Verizon is easier to deal with? I just was looking at the BOUNTY for a Verizon note 4 and thought it might have been more of a pain
Sorry for the Delay I have 3 Great Pyrenees a Catahoula and 2 domestic short hair cats the were rioting to be fed.
SM-N900A
Hi, are my ROM choices pretty limited because the ATT phone has to run on OC1 kernel? Will most of the popular ROMs from the other Note 3 threads run on OC1?
Thanks, Mike
phlashb4k said:
Absolutely. I just arrived at work or I would post a full detailed guide, but here's the run down.
You have to downgrade from 5.0 (OC1) to 4.2.2 (NC2).
Once you've done that, root with towelroot.apk, install SuperSU (I prefer chainfire), then install Busybox, (I prefer Stephan Erickson) and then finally, install Safestrap Recovery V3.75.
Then boot into Safestrap recovery, wipe/factory reset, and then flash the ROM you want.
I would gladly post links to everything but as I said, I'm at work. If nobody else does before I clock out. I'll definitely help you out.
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Supernoob question. I plan on doing this soon with my new note. However, I was wondering if the hotspot is automatically unlocked in 4.2.2. or do I need to download a special rom for that? thanks
Anybody know how to insall Xposed on Android 5.0? or have the link of the working one?
Thanks plashb4k, did this last night and it worked out great! I have a couple of questions though. (i'm completely new to this.) First, how can I disable Device Management from the phone? Now it is always in the Notification panel saying there is a new update. Secondly, are there any roms you recommend that work with android 4.4.2 really well? Thanks.