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Tim Hutt (from this forum) has done a great job of packaging the standard ICS launcher, sms app and calendar and sticking them on the market. You can get them here: (original thread)
Launcher, Calendar, Messaging
I've also removed that horrible chatON. Go to settings and click on Application Manager, click on the All tab, then find and click on chatON. Click on Force Stop and Disable. This will stop it appearing on the lock screen. The same thing can be applied to all Samsung bloatware, such as backup, account, software updates, etc.
This solution has turned out to work really well for me as I actually some of the new features on the phone, such as the motion bits, and the water unlock.
The dialer is the only thing that gets on my nerves still so if anyone has any way to get the original, do tell.
And if you also get annoyed by the icons and want the original ICS ones, get the ICS icons from here, and get QuickShortcutMaker.
You can now make shortcuts to the camera, dialer etc but use the original icons. It's anal I know, but I like what I like
Root your phone and use titanium back up then delete what you want
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I don't understand why so many people hate chat on. It's one of the best I'm apps outside of bbm! The only issue is people refuse to use it.
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^Because it's looks like iPhone-ish? lol.. BBM, iMessage.. That will not sell on Android enthusiasts.. for me, Whatsapp & Viber are easily the best out there!
Lennyuk said:
I don't understand why so many people hate chat on. It's one of the best I'm apps outside of bbm! The only issue is people refuse to use it.
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Horses for courses really on this one. My issues is the way it's pushed in my face. On the lock screen, there are shortcuts to: phone, camera, web, chat on - spot the odd one out!
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F this hangouts app. Anyone have and ideas for getting talk back... This is driving me nuts.
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go to apps in setting uninstall HANGOUTS update
Sadly I just clean flashed and clean gapps installed today... So no talk to roll back to
Sooner or later, all Talk app will be replaced with Hangout. Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
Anyways if you still insist on getting Talk, here's a link.
Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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Buy a device that doesn't have ics or superior... Gingerbread won't hace hangout
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actually, the update used to say they're trying their best to bring hangout to all devices, including gingerbread.
Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.
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Hangouts is a WhatsApp copycat which does nothing to integrate Google services and somehow manages to remove functionality with the inability to initiate audio-only voicechats. It's a shameless maneuver designed to force Google+ down users' throats.
What's worse, once this rolls into Gmail there's a good chance we'll lose the ability to make phone calls.
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It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
Also, no one is forcing Google+.
And they are adding voice chat support soon, but most likely be through Google voice. Also adding SMS support, which will take it even further beyond whatsapp.
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enviii said:
It's not a whatsapp copy cat, but an evolution. Let me know when whatsapp let's me message from the pc and the tablet and we'll talk.
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If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?
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If Hangouts were an evolution, Google wouldn't have tried (and failed) to acquire WhatsApp twice over. I do like the ability to communicate via PC / tablet but Google Talk already had this. What exactly is new here besides features that were already present in WhatsApp?
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It's an earlier release for gods sake! Compare the first day of whatsapp with hangouts and see the differences!
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To bad your not feeling it bro. I'm liking it so far . If i get SMS integration I will be really happy.
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Nethojs29 said:
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Its already shows as an update on my LG Optimus 2x which is still running Gingerbread lol. Used it but uninstalled it & now back to Google Talk .
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the only thing missing from hangouts for me is the ability to see the status of my contacts (whether they are available, away, busy or offline). otherwise i have no problems with it, especially that this is still an early release, it has still a long way to go. just be patient and you'll see!
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I like the fact that it's save chat history including images. No need to backup specific folder with every ROM update.
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exb0 said:
Don't be like one of them facebook biatches that complain every time they release a new update. Sure you might not like it at first, but you'll get used to it.
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Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
Anyways...still looking how to get back to just straight old TALK if anyone has any other ideas.
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Thanks for knowing what is best for me! Your the greatest. Also that .apk didn't work.
I love how some of you are such little fanboys that you actually think the way they are handling this is "OK." If I wanted something shoved down my throat, I woulda bought an iphone. We are beta testing this festering turd for them...and I don't want to lose functionality being a beta tester with no option to revert back.
Hangouts is complete garbage in it's current state. It's current state makes it a good replacement for the MESSENGER app...except they didn't even include ****ing SMS. It is however not a good replacement for talk.
Talk is an IM app. The beauty was I could open talk, look at statuses, know where people were (desktop, mobile, etc), and talk to people on the fly. Now I have no ****ing idea who/what I am messaging, if they are sitting in a conference call, or if they are just bored at their computer at work. I also use to to communicate with my wife...when it is green she is at her desk...when it is away I will just call or SMS her and not expect an instant response. Now I just lob a message out there without knowing if I am interrupting her at work or if she will respond in a few hours or a few seconds.
I am also no longer available for video chat for the people using talk. My whopping 100 minutes cell phone plan means I rely on talk heavily to talk to my family and my wife with video chats. They want to get up with me...they just video message me. No cell phone minutes used. Now they have to message me to get me to invite them to a video call....because I am using the **** that is hangouts and for whatever reason I am no longer available for video chat.
So once again...this app sucks in its current state for MY uses. Being FORCED to be a beta tester isn't my idea of fun.
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A beta test is an apt description. What other plausible explanation is there for leaving out such basic features as status icons / messages and voicechat?
I can understand various media outlets / blogs being fooled by the aesthetics (read: WhatsApp lookalike), but I expect logic to prevail on this forum and justifying the loss of features amounts to fanboyism in its purest form.
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To my knowledge it doesn't work if you don't have a Google+ account.
I don't like that Google has forced users to choose between gtalk and hangouts, especially since they are listing several important features as forthcoming. I do however, understand them wanting to increase the adoption of g+ because when glass comes out the g+ features that it adds will be simply amazing and unless users are already used to, and actively using g+ they won't see any reason to have glass.
All in all I think it's a smart move by Google, unpopular yes, but still smart over the long term.
I'm just dealing with it for now, I wasn't a gtalk user so the loss of features doesn't bother me in the slightest, I'm only irked by the loss of choice.
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Hangouts sucks!
I do not like it.
In previous versions of JellyBam it can be downgraded, just uninstalling updates, but now in 8.4.0, I had to remove Hangouts, I prefer not having a Google IM than having Hangouts.
It seems that Google was bought by MS, they are doing things that show they do not care about people.
I'm assuming hangouts is now the best out there, now that google incorporated it.
What are you guys using?
Nope
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fastfed said:
I'm assuming hangouts is now the best out there, now that google incorporated it.
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Not quite sure how you came to that conclusion. I am going to try just using the default messaging app for now.
I did with my last phone. But not with this one. I don't like the same pic for different ways to chat with the same person.
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Not quite sure how you came to that conclusion. I am going to try just using the default messaging app for now.
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Hmmm.. because it makes things 100 times easier. You can text from your phone, get home or at work and continue right from your computer.
It was googles answer to Imessage for the Gphone.
Also has video calling RIGHT from the app, no need to switch and hope the other person has something installed
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I'm assuming hangouts is now the best out there, now that google incorporated it.
What are you guys using?
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I've gone back and forth, Hangouts sometimes takes a while to launch which annoys me since I drive all day for work and like to respond to texts at stoplights. I've just enabled ART so maybe I will see better performance.
As for texting on my other devices I've been using Mighty Text on PC, Nexus 7 and phone for a while. It is ok but reading a text on PC or Tablet does not clear it from the phone, I never tried Hangouts on the other ones.
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Hmmm.. because it makes things 100 times easier. You can text from your phone, get home or at work and continue right from your computer.
It was googles answer to Imessage for the Gphone.
Also has video calling RIGHT from the app, no need to switch and hope the other person has something installed
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OK we were at cross purposes, I thought you meant are we using Hangouts as our SMS app. Is it the best? Down to personal choice. I mostly use Facebook since that's what most of my family are on. I have some people on Hangouts but the main person I speak to on Hangouts I have spoken to for years, originally on MSN and then gTalk so now Hangouts.
Er... no. I find EvolveSMS much better, completely uninstalled hangouts from phone. ..
I tried using Hangout. I did enjoy it, however, am using new app and am much enjoying it.
Im sure most of you read the news about hangouts now supports vzw mms or vzw finally supporting google voice... regardless, this is great news for me since my primary phone has being my Google voice for a long time.
I'm looking forward to a way of making hangouts being less laggy on the Note, if anyone was able to make it more smooth, please share.
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
Im sure most of you read the news about hangouts now supports vzw mms or vzw finally supporting google voice... regardless, this is great news for me since my primary phone has being my Google voice for a long time.
I'm looking forward to a way of making hangouts being less laggy on the Note, if anyone was able to make it more smooth, please share.
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Thanks, good info! :good:
I guess I'll finally give Hangouts a try now, thanks.
le0.br4zuc4 said:
Im sure most of you read the news about hangouts now supports vzw mms or vzw finally supporting google voice... regardless, this is great news for me since my primary phone has being my Google voice for a long time.
I'm looking forward to a way of making hangouts being less laggy on the Note, if anyone was able to make it more smooth, please share.
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I heard if hangouts is laggy you have a bad phone...and should exchange asap. just something i read on another post here some where..
yznhmr said:
I heard if hangouts is laggy you have a bad phone...and should exchange asap. just something i read on another post here some where..
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I'm one of the people who think one laggy app can't be the result of defective device. Just makes no sense. Thanks anyway bro
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while I tend to agree with you, I have a note 4 on Verizon and hang outs is not lagging for me. If you do a search in xda there are people talking about this problem.
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while I tend to agree with you, I have a note 4 on Verizon and hang outs is not lagging for me. If you do a search in xda there are people talking about this problem.
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Right... it is weird, it is very laggy on my wife's S5, was laggy on my S5. It is laggy on a G3 I have laying around and also on my Galaxy Tab S. I have a original Moto X and on the Moto X it isn't laggy... I'll keep an eye on the development of this issue, I have 2 year warranty anyway (and never keep a phone for that long) if it turns out to be a defective device I'll replace it.
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
Im sure most of you read the news about hangouts now supports vzw mms or vzw finally supporting google voice... regardless, this is great news for me since my primary phone has being my Google voice for a long time.
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Thanks for this! I've been giving out my Google Voice number for years and the whole MMS thing has been the one thing I hated about it.
I just tested with a friend who sent me a pic and it got shifted over to email. Not ideal, but since I get email on the phone too it's a lot better than it just disappearing into cyberspace.
I haven't integrated Hangouts with Voice yet so maybe that's why it got turned into an email. I've been hesitant to integrate the two. Does anyone know how to separate them again if I try it and don't like it?
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Thanks for this! I've been giving out my Google Voice number for years and the whole MMS thing has been the one thing I hated about it.
I just tested with a friend who sent me a pic and it got shifted over to email. Not ideal, but since I get email on the phone too it's a lot better than it just disappearing into cyberspace.
I haven't integrated Hangouts with Voice yet so maybe that's why it got turned into an email. I've been hesitant to integrate the two. Does anyone know how to separate them again if I try it and don't like it?
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I don't know how to separate them, never tried really but the reason you got the picture on an email is because the Google voice app doesn't support pictures, even back in the day when T-Mobile and Sprint were the only two supported for MMS I think it was received as an email.
Make the jump to hangouts and it will all work fine. By the way, when you switch it to hangouts, you'll have to forward your calls again to your Verizon phone # OR you can use the hangouts app to make and receive phone calls. The calls handled by hangouts are over WiFi or data, like VOIP
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Thanks, le0.br4zuc4. Good info!
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I heard if hangouts is laggy you have a bad phone...and should exchange asap. just something i read on another post here some where..
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I think that guy had more of a serious problem.
I have tested 8 Notes at 4 different verizon stores now and they all have horrible lag in hangouts.
crazed_z06 said:
I think that guy had more of a serious problem.
I have tested 8 Notes at 4 different verizon stores now and they all have horrible lag in hangouts.
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So tell me how you are experiencing lag? as I don't seem to notice any?
When you hit send, the animation is all jerky. On Motorola devices or nexus, it's butter smooth
so you can receive mms messages now via hangouts.. but you cant send a mms via hangouts ... Is this correct?
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so you can receive mms messages now via hangouts.. but you cant send a mms via hangouts ... Is this correct?
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My understanding and experience so far is you can send MMS, get MMS, whichever. Group messages aren't working, though, so not that kind of MMS!
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My understanding and experience so far is you can send MMS, get MMS, whichever. Group messages aren't working, though, so not that kind of MMS!
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I didn't try group message yet, that's garbage that it doesn't work...
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le0.br4zuc4 said:
I didn't try group message yet, that's garbage that it doesn't work...
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According to this http://www.droid-life.com/2014/11/10/google-voice-mms-messaging-support-for-verizon-now-official/ , group messaging is being worked on and will "be enabled in a coming update".
its horrible, you can't send higher res pics, you can even take a picture within the app without horrible quality
between Google messenger, and WhatsApp, i got everything I need.
I've never bothered with MMS, they have always been a pain to use, and compatibility across cell phone carriers it's abysmal.
I you are from Company A, you send MMS to friend on another phone Company B, chances are they will not get the picture.
that happened so often, that made MMS obsolete, specially with the intro of Skype, WhatsApp, WeChat, QQ, ICQ, Hangout,etc...
Toss out all HTC stock apps is my suggestion. Get Google dialer. Get Google messenger or Facebook messenger if you want chatheads. Get Google calendar. Get Google clock.
Cryosx said:
Toss out all HTC stock apps is my suggestion. Get Google dialer. Get Google messenger or Facebook messenger if you want chatheads. Get Google calendar. Get Google clock.
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Textra also does chat heads too :fingers-crossed:
Sooo the stock messages app is the google messenger app, just realized it while trying to download it, I hate it, it's sends low res pictures, is there anyway to change quality or another good txt msg app?
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Toss out all HTC stock apps is my suggestion. Get Google dialer. Get Google messenger or Facebook messenger if you want chatheads. Get Google calendar. Get Google clock.
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I use Google Messenger, Calendar and Inbox instead of HTC's apps, but I do keep HTC's flip clock, it's an emblem.
And what's wrong with HTC's dialer, but the dark theme not available ?
Google messenger and Android messenger are they the same of different
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Google messenger and Android messenger are they the same of different
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Same. Android is just the name of the system Google developed.
Texting and MMS?!? Haven't used those for the last couple of years. WhatsApp has me covered for pretty much everything and more.
Good if you have no data signal though for a quick message.
MMS? Does that still exists?? I can't remember receiving one. And never sent one... Yes in the early days.
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MMS? Does that still exists?? I can't remember receiving one. And never sent one... Yes in the early days.
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Muricans still love em, for some reason.
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Everyone I know has an iPhone so sure they gave iMessage, I'm stuck with mms lol
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Well lookie here... Looks like Sprint getting HTC Messages back :good:
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MMS? Does that still exists?? I can't remember receiving one. And never sent one... Yes in the early days.
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unfortunately for me, my siblings and mom insist on a group MMS for communication. I've tried to get them to hangouts, allo, basically anything else. but no luck.
so annoying.
OMJ said:
Well lookie here... Looks like Sprint getting HTC Messages back :good:
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I actually was a beta tester for HTC for the new msgs app it's the exact same as the one on the 10