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I just want to let everyone know that it is possible to go back to ICS after updating to 4.1.2(9.16.6) I was rooted on 4.1.1 today, used ota root keeper to temp unroot and update to 4.1.2 and restore root. I just used Matts RazrHD utility 1.10 and went back to ICS 4.0.4 with no problems what so ever...
Im not sure why its stated that once you update to the newest release that you cannot go back, but its possible. So for everyone that wants to try out 4.1.2 and didnt want to be stuck, you can downgrade.
Hope this helps.
Also for everyone willing to try to downgrade please post results and type of phone you have, also the way you downgraded...
Device: Razr HD XT926 US Verizon non dev ed.
Original firmware 4.0.4(0.6.25)
Used RazrHD Utility 1.10 to downgrade
UPDATE: 3/21
I tried to downgrade again so I can post screen shots for everyone, and it did not work this time!!! Something must have changed/sync'd with my phone since the last time I downgraded that did not sync the first time. This has been a strange experience, but I would not have posted if I really did not have success the first time! It now gives errors, and I have tried everything I could imagine. My phone is not bricked and I am still rooted and have SS.
Preserving the option to downgrade to ICS is certainly important to me. Please, what phone do you have and from what country is your carrier (and thus, presumably, your version of stock ICS)?
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Preserving the option to downgrade to ICS is certainly important to me. Please, what phone do you have and from what country is your carrier (and thus, presumably, your version of stock ICS)?
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XT926 Verizon US non dev edition, ICS 4.0.4 (0.6.25)
I will add it to the OP
OK ... I've got to know. Why did you leave 9.1.2 immediately after upgrading to it? The knowledge that downgrading back to 4.0.4 from 4.1.2 is certainly valuable, but knowing what prompted you to upgrade and then so quickly downgrade would be valuable to know as well. Did the upgrade go smoothly? Did the upgrade not function as expected?
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OK ... I've got to know. Why did you leave 9.1.2 immediately after upgrading to it? The knowledge that downgrading back to 4.0.4 from 4.1.2 is certainly valuable, but knowing what prompted you to upgrade and then so quickly downgrade would be valuable to know as well. Did the upgrade go smoothly? Did the upgrade not function as expected?
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No it was fine... I had some weird problems with data switching, from wifi to mobile... Sometimes it wouldn't switch back to mobile after turning off wifi but that was only a couple of times. I really just wanted to see if it was possible to downgrade and was willing to do it even though I could of been stuck without a phone. I also like to start fresh by downgrading and wiping/formatting my sd card every month or so. Im back on 4.1.1 now and will probably go to 4.1.2 soon on my stock slot either way.
What I did was Remote into a DROID RAZR HD owner's computer and flash the ICS boot.img file through fastboot. It failed pre-flash validation so I flashed to new boot.img back on there and considered it a case closed.
If it works to go back by using the Utility, thats great news. However I am not going to remove the warning until I get more than just one confirmation on it.
great news thx
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I have JB 4.1.2 now and using Matt's tool, I can't seem to get it to downgrade. It will run through the process, then it will just boot up into 4.1.2 again. It gets a couple failed things along the way.
Because I'm still weighing whether to upgrade to 4.1.2 can you tell me -- did you get 4.1.2 OTA or did you flash a file? If you did a "manual" upgrade, how is the experience? Problems? Anything not working, or not working right?
Ota, everything went fine during the upgrade. Just make sure if you are rooted to activate stock slot and wipe all other slots. I also restored a backup of stock jb 4.1.1 I made a week ago with all apps updated and working. Then just booted up and temp unrooted with ota root keeper and accepted the ota. Restored root after it booted. Only thing that was different from other updates is that safe strap did not work afterwards so I had to uninstall and reinstall.
I don't see much improvement, but I just got back to 4.1.2 late last night after downgrading so that's not much time to tell if the improvements are there. I have not tried HDMI out yet,but will later today.
If anyone else tries to downgrade to stock 4.0.4 ICS from this latest update 4.1.2, please post what type of phone you have and if it worked for you. Any problems...???
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Ota, everything went fine during the upgrade. Just make sure if you are rooted to activate stock slot and wipe all other slots. I also restored a backup of stock jb 4.1.1 I made a week ago with all apps updated and working. Then just booted up and temp unrooted with ota root keeper and accepted the ota. Restored root after it booted. Only thing that was different from other updates is that safe strap did not work afterwards so I had to uninstall and reinstall.
I don't see much improvement, but I just got back to 4.1.2 late last night after downgrading so that's not much time to tell if the improvements are there. I have not tried HDMI out yet,but will later today.
If anyone else tries to downgrade to stock 4.0.4 ICS from this latest update 4.1.2, please post what type of phone you have and if it worked for you. Any problems...???
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You don't have to wipe your rom slots.just go back to stock slot take the ota and then reinstall safestrap recovery (not the program).your roms will still be there and functional.
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Don't know how I've missed all this "stock slot, rom slots" business. I've rooted Android phones and tablets, installed custom ROMs, I've still a noob but learning. Does "slots" refer to all that sdcard0, sdcard1, usbdisk_1.0 business in /storage? I don't think I'd seen that on any of my devices until I got my Maxx HD with 4.1.1. Or are slots part of SafeStrap (I have that too but only because it was on my phone when I bought it on eBay)? Upgrading to 4.1.2 sounds like it goes smoothly if you do it right and is a pain if you don't. Sure would appreciate a little guidance that's specific to this set of tasks.
Well I feel like an idiot. I got the leaked 4.1.2 and now it's literally impossible to downgrade. I hadn't installed any bootloaders/roots/ or anything before doing this, so now that my phone is 4.1.2, it's basically stuck there.
I've tried hours and hours of everything. If anyone has any idea on how to bypass this I'd be grateful.
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Well I feel like an idiot. I got the leaked 4.1.2 and now it's literally impossible to downgrade. I hadn't installed any bootloaders/roots/ or anything before doing this, so now that my phone is 4.1.2, it's basically stuck there.
I've tried hours and hours of everything. If anyone has any idea on how to bypass this I'd be grateful.
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Not sure why it wont work for you, but Im going to downgrade again and post up screen shots and a vid. also. Just waiting for my phone to charge.
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an21281 said:
Not sure why it wont work for you, but Im going to downgrade again and post up screen shots and a vid. also. Just waiting for my phone to charge.
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Did you do this procedure from stock? I tried from 100% stock. No unlocked bootloader, no root, nothing. I'm also using a Verizon Phone.
an21281 said:
I just want to let everyone know that it is possible to go back to ICS after updating to 4.1.2(9.16.6) I was rooted on 4.1.1 today, used ota root keeper to temp unroot and update to 4.1.2 and restore root. I just used Matts RazrHD utility 1.10 and went back to ICS 4.0.4 with no problems what so ever...
Im not sure why its stated that once you update to the newest release that you cannot go back, but its possible. So for everyone that wants to try out 4.1.2 and didnt want to be stuck, you can downgrade.
Hope this helps.
Also for everyone willing to try to downgrade please post results and type of phone you have, also the way you downgraded...
Device: Razr HD XT926 US Verizon non dev ed.
Original firmware 4.0.4(0.6.25)
Used RazrHD Utility 1.10 to downgrade
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No you cant.
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No you cant.
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I downgraded successfully yesterday, so I reported my experience... I have no reason to lie, otherwise I would not have posted this in the first place!
I had some problems with my comp. and the usb/moto drivers on win7 today so I was trying to fix that before I could try again. I attempted to downgrade/restore to ICS again and this time it did not work! I cant see how it worked for me yesterday and today it wont? I was so happy when it worked, but something must have changed within the last day which is odd. I always upgrade and root the same way, and I have tried everything today to get it to downgrade with no luck. My phone still works so it is not bricked, and I apologize to everyone, like I said it did downgrade yesterday with the RazrHD utility 1.10 and there were no errors what so ever. Now after it asks you to hit any key once the phone comes back on in FB errors come right up. Some things seem to flash though, which is strange and basically it does a factory reset on the 4.1.2 . SS is still installed, its still rooted, and works fine. I can even restore back up of 4.1.1 stock jb(which I made last night after I downgraded to ICS and was upgrading again) on stock slot after wiping data/cache/dalvic and system and boot up to show 4.1.1 and then either try to downgrade, which fails, or take the ota and/or flash 4.1.2 manually but it fails also. Then I just reflash a back up of 4.1.2 and its fine IDK... I also flashed Vit 1.9.3 on stock slot fine, boots etc. but still wont let me downgrade. Then I tried uninstalling all updated apps on 4.1.2 and clearing data on all apps, still nothing.
So for some reason it let me successfully downgrade yesterday, but not anymore. So like many people have said do not try until there's a safe way, unless you are willing to risk bricking.
I am downloading the 4.1.2 fastboot files now.
mattlgroff said:
I am downloading the 4.1.2 fastboot files now.
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You're amazing.are you a moto insider lol
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koftheworld said:
You're amazing.are you a moto insider lol
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I have friends in the Firmware Team
This post is to try to sort out the questions, concerns and troubles that users come up against when using.the "SlapMyMoto" rooting method to gain "Root" on the Moto X.
[Question]What happened to my "Recovery"--
[ANSWER]- It's gone. There's no "Recovery". Now you have read/write access to /system instead of a recovery. Your system will boot normally, except /system will be read-write accessible.
[Question ] - Can I flash Xxx-xxx.zip through recovery like it says here - xxxxxx.com/yada/yada/instructions (with link to. Zip file) .com
[Answer] No.
[Question ] Why not?
[Answer] Because you have a "Custom" Recovery that does nothing more than provide read-write access. to the /system partition , ..period.
[Question] -- Can I use some other"Recovery"?
[Answer ] -- ? DUNNO? Maybe jcase will chime in and clarify that. As it stands, maybe the 4.4 recovery, don't know for sure what it will do to your root. Whether it is the 4.4, or 4.2 recovery, without unlocking your Boot loader it will have to be a signed. zip file for system security.
Where else can I turn for answers?
Hopefully, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
As it stands, jcase is attending to family/personal matters. I'm sure he will be back sometime. Until then, just have to wait it out.
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Question- Why with a locked bootloader do I need recovery?
Answer- You don't!
Comment- Good, because you don't have one now that you used SlapMyMoto to root. Your recovery has been replaced by write protection off.
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Question- Why with a locked bootloader do I need recovery?
Answer- You don't!
Comment- Good, because you don't have one now that you used SlapMyMoto to root. Your recovery has been replaced by write protection off.
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Unless you want to clear cache, flash a signed update.zip you really don't need it. Until you do.
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Unless you want to clear cache, flash a signed update.zip you really don't need it. Until you do.
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Or I could just use adb
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Yup, you sure could. What I'm trying to get across to the masses is, its not all about you lowvolt1, there are many new, or people that don't known their way around all this that read the "How-to" from xyz.com and expect it to work.
If you can read, apply your good judgement, and move on then great.
There are other people that can't yet wrap their heads around the bootloader/recovery thing that just got a phone, have no clue, and want help or answers. This is the thread for them.
Maybe you should start a thread for stuff that's all about you if that's what you want.
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Yup, you sure could. What I'm trying to get across to the masses is, its not all about you lowvolt1, there are many new, or people that don't known their way around all this that read the "How-to" from xyz.com and expect it to work.
If you can read, apply your good judgement, and move on then great.
There are other people that can't yet wrap their heads around the bootloader/recovery thing that just got a phone, have no clue, and want help or answers. This is the thread for them.
Maybe you should start a thread for stuff that's all about you if that's what you want.
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My narcissistic nature is not in question here. What is in question is why you are trying to help new people or people with questions, yet you continue to blurt out false truths.
Maybe you should listen to the people that have alot more knowledge than you and I put together and do a little more research before you continue to confuse people.
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My narcissistic nature is not in question here. What is in question is why you are trying to help new people or people with questions, yet you continue to blurt out false truths.
Maybe you should listen to the people that have alot more knowledge than you and I put together and do a little more research before you continue to confuse people.
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OK I for one found your (original) explanation quite helpful as I didn't pick up on the recovery/bootloader thing. I'm still not rooted...
The recovery I can live without - I think you've explained it well.
What happens to the bootloader? it looks like (in step "5") it is downgraded to the 4.2.2 bootloader? So we're running 4.4 with a 4.2.2. bootloader when all said and done?
tdiman said:
OK I for one found your (original) explanation quite helpful as I didn't pick up on the recovery/bootloader thing. I'm still not rooted...
The recovery I can live without - I think you've explained it well.
What happens to the bootloader? it looks like (in step "5") it is downgraded to the 4.2.2 bootloader? So we're running 4.4 with a 4.2.2. bootloader when all said and done?
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Yes. As I understand it your statement is correct.
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Guys-
I don't feel like going through all 80+ pages on the slapmymoto thread, so I will ask it here.
I have the at&t version with 4.4 on it. Can I root at the moment with the 0.5 slapmymoto, if not, is 1.0 going to be solving this issue?
Thanks in advance-
Dodolom said:
Guys-
I don't feel like going through all 80+ pages on the slapmymoto thread, so I will ask it here.
I have the at&t version with 4.4 on it. Can I root at the moment with the 0.5 slapmymoto, if not, is 1.0 going to be solving this issue?
Thanks in advance-
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I am assuming your on the non Dev edition. I am not familiar with at&t, so I will ask this. Can you unlock the boot loader on that version? If not then yes I believe you can root using slap. But you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 first.
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lowvolt1 said:
I am assuming your on the non Dev edition. I am not familiar with at&t, so I will ask this. Can you unlock the boot loader on that version? If not then yes I believe you can root using slap. But you have to downgrade to 4.2.2 first.
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Yeah, this is jus the retail at&t version on the Cyber Monday sale. I had the GSM DE from day 1 but sent it to a friend in england to play with and then Cyber Monday deal popped up, so I ordered one but this time I went with the custom design which only comes with the carriers.
Anyways, how can I know if I can unlock the bootloader or not?
Dodolom said:
Yeah, this is jus the retail at&t version on the Cyber Monday sale. I had the GSM DE from day 1 but sent it to a friend in england to play with and then Cyber Monday deal popped up, so I ordered one but this time I went with the custom design which only comes with the carriers.
Anyways, how can I know if I can unlock the bootloader or not?
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Try Google searching it. I don't think you can. Verizon can't and since you made mention of a Dev edition I am guessing you can't unlock.
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lowvolt1 said:
Try Google searching it. I don't think you can. Verizon can't and since you made mention of a Dev edition I am guessing you can't unlock.
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I think I will wait for the 1.0 and see what happens or if I get some time this week, I will give it a shot with the downgrading and all that.
Thanks
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I think I will wait for the 1.0 and see what happens or if I get some time this week, I will give it a shot with the downgrading and all that.
Thanks
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You may be waiting awhile for 1.0. If it comes at all.
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I just recieved a Moto X on Verizon in the mail and I really would like to root it to debloat and run a custom rom but I have always had Samsung and worked with odin. How do we go about rooting this? What do you think is the easiest way? For some reason ADB isnt working on my computer. Thanks in advance! I REALLY NEED SOME HELP!!
ehusidic said:
I just recieved a Moto X on Verizon in the mail and I really would like to root it to debloat and run a custom rom but I have always had Samsung and worked with odin. How do we go about rooting this? What do you think is the easiest way? For some reason ADB isnt working on my computer. Thanks in advance! I REALLY NEED SOME HELP!!
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1. There are no custom roms at the moment. Unless you have the Verizon Dev edition.
2. You will only gain root access and RW permissions
3. The easiest way is slap my motto is the only way if you want to be rooted on kit Kat 4.4
4. You will definitely need adb
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[Q] Say if you boot into "recovery," otherwise write protection-off mode, then you reboot. Do you boot back into normal mode? Or does it default into write protection-off mode until you explicitly tell it to boot normally?
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[Q] Say if you boot into "recovery," otherwise write protection-off mode, then you reboot. Do you boot back into normal mode? Or does it default into write protection-off mode until you explicitly tell it to boot normally?
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That depends, are you rebooting in to recovery again, or rebooting in to Android? Android = WP on. Recovery = WP off.
A couple of non-SlapMyMoto questions have been asked here so... (dtrud0h, feel free to add these to your OP)
[Q] What is the best way to root my Moto X?
[A] Depends what Rom is on your X. Generally there are 3 "stock" motorola rom versions for the X. The ROM it shipped with (android 4.2.2), the "camera fix" update (4.2.2), and Kit Kit (4.4). And it depends on if you have a locked bootloader or not.
Locked Bootloader with KitKat (4.4) see SlapMyMoto -> SlapMyMoto 0.5c Beta (4.4 root, RW to system)
Locked Bootloader with "Camera Update" see -> [Root] RockMyMoto (Yes, even the first OTA)
Locked Bootloader with initial shipping rom see -> [Root/Write Protection Bypass] MotoX (no unlock needed)
UNLOCKED bootloader see -> https://plus.google.com/110773150384694258853/posts/VhtJtg92sTP
NOTE: these should work across all carrier variants of the Moto X. that means ATT, VZW, TMO, TIM, Rogers, etc.. should be able to use these. You just need to pick the right process based on your ROM or locked vs unlocked bootloader.
[Q] Once I root, can I accept an OTA update on my phone?
[A] If you have rooted with SlapMyMoto, RockMyMoto, PwnMyMoto, or have otherwise replaced stock recovery, then please do not let your phone try to install any OTA updates!!!
As stated in another Question/Answer, using JCASE's SlapMyMoto, RockMyMoto and PwnMyMoto to root will replace your recovery to allow for the ability to boot with R/W permitted. When the OTA update downloads to your phone, and it tries to reboot to install it, the phone/update is trying to use the stock recovery to install the update. Since it is not there, the update will fail and the phone will reboot and it will likely try to reboot and try to install again. This can often result in the phone being stuck in a boot loop of continually retrying to reboot and install the update. There are ways to fix this posted in other threads. NOTE: there may be ways to get around this and install the OTA zip but that is a topic for another thread.
If you have an unlocked bootloader and have installed a custom recovery, it might be possible to install the OTA ZIP manually, but again that is a topic for another thread.
[Q] Can I unlock the Bootloader on my Moto X? or How do I know if I can unlock my bootloader or not?
[A] If you have a Developer Edition Moto X, yes you can unlock the bootloader and it doesn't void your device warranty. If you have a MotoMaker or Carrier Branded model, it depends on IF your carrier allows Motorola to do it, and it will void your warranty. For example, Verizon and ATT does now allow Motorola to unlock your boot loader. T-Mobile users can unlock their bootloader but it will void their warranty.
To see if your Moto X bootloader can be unlocked visit -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth You can step through the process until you get to the final submit WITHOUT voiding your warranty. Based on the site's wording, once you hit the final submit to request the code, your warranty is voided (unless your phone is a developer edition)
[Q] How do I run a custom rom on my X?
[A] SlapMyMoto and the like is/are not a process to allow you to run custom roms.
Unless you have an unlocked bootloader, you can't remove the Stock Motorola ROM and run a completely custom rom. And because most X owners generally agree the stock X ROM is very good, there are not many custom roms available for the X, even for those with unlocked bootloaders. Any available custom roms are posted in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development so please use those threads for info/discussions.
If you have locked bootloader, there are a few options for using Safestrap to allow for some customization or "alternate roms", but that is a topic which doesn't apply to this thread.
So what can we really do after we gain root. The obvious is run apps that require root but what else? I am a user and follow directions from devs on how to do things. So without the knowledge or experience of the deep pits of android what can I do with root? This root process looks a little tough but I could figure it out once I piece all the threads together to understand it better.
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Will this work on a non developer vzw phone?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2521509
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I am here to give a quick warning to all users. Please, do not revert to older versions of Android. This can cause your device to brick when you take an ota. The reason for the brick is because the ota process flashes secure elements and these elements can not be mixed. Once, you mix these you will brick. Also, if you have reverted the only safe way to update is thru a full xml.
If anyone would like to extend on this point please do. I am writing this up before class as I see people are bricking.
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papi92 said:
I am here to give a quick warning to all users. Please, do not revert to older versions of Android. This can cause your device to brick when you take an ota. The reason for the brick is because the ota process flashes secure elements and these elements can not be mixed. Once, you mix these you will brick. Also, if you have reverted the only safe way to update is thru a full xml.
If anyone would like to extend on this point please do. I am writing this up before class as I see people are bricking.
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I'll only add that the first few bricks from this were just bad luck.....but after the posts about it.....the further bricks can be blamed on poor research, reading and self learning. These things are what XDA is supposed to be about. Blindly flashing this and that without doing homework first is a recipe for disaster with what we do here.
Sometimes people, like me, are brushed off as jerks or know it all's when we remind people of these things, or tell them to read and search instead of answering their questions.....but really we're just trying to help people help themselves and learn more about what they are doing.
Anyway.....personally ...I'll continue to be a "jerk" and remind people of this stuff occasionally, cause it just may get through to some people.
Also.....XDA rules state to search before posting....Wow has that been forgotten these days. LOL
Peace all!
Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
My sentiments too, at this rate I think the moto x will have the world record for hard bricks
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flashallthetime said:
My sentiments too, at this rate I think the moto x will have the world record for hard bricks
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No kidding! LOL. I despise Samsung....but it was very hard to brick. LOL. This bootloader version mixed with OTA stuff on the X is a mess.
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Oh...throw in unlocked bootloader methods, vs locked bootloader methods and the x can get pretty confusing. Personally.....I think people should avoid the phones that can't be boot loader unlocked like the plague. LOL
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Avoid flashing firmware at the least, there's now a flashable 4.4.2 stock ROM too, so you have options to safely flash roms
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If you are going play then you must be read to play. As for people who want to use otas there's a trick. Remove all secure elements from the zip just keep the patches to system boot and modem. That way you do not brick. But please don't return your X when you do brick because of taking OTAs on a Frankenstein device with this bootloader and that gpt
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i think it's always a good idea not to go back in android versions!
Reading this makes me feel sad. I come from a SGSII, on which I could flash anything, without braking it .
So let me get this straight: if I have the Sprint version (no dev version available) and want root without voiding the warranty I have to downgrade to 4.2.2 and use RockMyMoto, flash 4.4, and use SlapMyMoto. However, if I do that, any future OTA upgrades will cause a brick so while I can flash future ROMs I will be stuck on the current firmware?
ahecht said:
So let me get this straight: if I have the Sprint version (no dev version available) and want root without voiding the warranty I have to downgrade to 4.2.2 and use RockMyMoto, flash 4.4, and use SlapMyMoto. However, if I do that, any future OTA upgrades will cause a brick so while I can flash future ROMs I will be stuck on the current firmware?
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No , the problem happens when you upgrade your boot loader to 4.4.2, you can not downgrade. As long as you stay with 4.4 BOOTLOADER you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post camera ota. If you flash the 4.4.2 BOOT LOADER and decide to Frankenstein your phone and flash an older boot loader , you're SOL, 4.4.2 BOOT LOADER is a one way ticket
Regardless if your boot loader is unlocked or locked. Just because I have a unlocked boot loader does not give me Amy extra ability to flash an older boot loader ,it gves me a better way of rooting and flashing roms
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flashallthetime said:
No , the problem happens when you upgrade your boot loader to 4.4.2, you can not downgrade. As long as you stay with 4.4 BOOTLOADER you can downgrade to 4.2.2 post camera ota. If you flash the 4.4.2 BOOT LOADER and decide to Frankenstein your phone and flash an older boot loader , you're SOL, 4.4.2 BOOT LOADER is a one way ticket
Regardless if your boot loader is unlocked or locked. Just because I have a unlocked boot loader does not give me Amy extra ability to flash an older boot loader ,it gves me a better way of rooting and flashing roms
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Thanks. My motomaker Moto X is on its way, hopefully it won't have the 4.4.2 boot loader from the factory.
Personally I think that anyone even remotely interested in hacking, flashing, or anything of that nature should have gotten a developer edition. Especially if you're not sure of what you're doing. No company has ever offered something that makes being a phone geek so easy and yet, not many have taken advantage.
I also feel that not enough people try to do things the "hard way". But I find fastboot way easier and safer than many of the tools provided. And once you learn it it's useful on many devices and similar to Odin etc. I just don't want Motorola getting a bad rap for other people's foolishness
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
SymbioticGenius said:
Personally I think that anyone even remotely interested in hacking, flashing, or anything of that nature should have gotten a developer edition. Especially if you're not sure of what you're doing. No company has ever offered something that makes being a phone geek so easy and yet, not many have taken advantage.
I also feel that not enough people try to do things the "hard way". But I find fastboot way easier and safer than many of the tools provided. And once you learn it it's useful on many devices and similar to Odin etc. I just don't want Motorola getting a bad rap for other people's foolishness
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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It makes no difference having a DE edition or a Rogers unlockable boot loader moto as I have , they are essentially the same beast, I can do everything you can do, a DE edition will brick as fast as any other moto variant. I think people who have no common sense is the problem, they assume that flashing firmware is like flashing custom ROMs and its not
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papi92 said:
If you are going play then you must be read to play. As for people who want to use otas there's a trick. Remove all secure elements from the zip just keep the patches to system boot and modem. That way you do not brick. .........
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Out of curiosity. Have you done this with your X? From what I gather it seems to be a "safe(r)" way of upgrading without compromising the bootloader, yet I haven't read where anyone has actually tried doing it. The threads where those on 4.2.2 flashing 4.4.x firmwares from other carriers is coming to mind. Why risk it if what you are saying works? I have a new VZ dev ed that I'm trying to figure out how to handle the 4.2.2 update on, if it ever comes.
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Out of curiosity. Have you done this with your X? From what I gather it seems to be a "safe(r)" way of upgrading without compromising the bootloader, yet I haven't read where anyone has actually tried doing it. The threads where those on 4.2.2 flashing 4.4.x firmwares from other carriers is coming to mind. Why risk it if what you are saying works? I have a new VZ dev ed that I'm trying to figure out how to handle the 4.2.2 update on, if it ever comes.
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He's a developer, staying with only system images and modems your safer, modems do not always work in specific locations, UK modem will not work in Brazil, so keep your existing modem , the system files are all basically the same with minor changes, T-Mobile and rogers have no bloat, rogers has the carrier logo, where T-Mobile doesn't, at&t has at&t bloatware. As for Verizon,spring and us cell I have no idea as its CDMA and I have the gsm variant
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flashallthetime said:
He's a developer, staying with only system images and modems your safer, modems do not always work in specific locations, UK modem will not work in Brazil, so keep your existing modem , the system files are all basically the same with minor changes, T-Mobile and rogers have no bloat, rogers has the carrier logo, where T-Mobile doesn't, at&t has at&t bloatware. As for Verizon,spring and us cell I have no idea as its CDMA and I have the gsm variant
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It's starting to come together...
Knowing this I still don't quite get why so many people seemed to be flashing firmware from other carriers when they could have cherry picked what they "needed".
It would be nice to figure out how to use the system.img from other carriers as VZ's firmware appears to have about 100MiB of "added features" that I'd prefer not to have.
Being that the risk appears to be negligible I may attempt to push the system.img from another carrier to see what happens.
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It's starting to come together...
Knowing this I still don't quite get why so many people seemed to be flashing firmware from other carriers when they could have cherry picked what they "needed".
It would be nice to figure out how to use the system.img from other carriers as VZ's firmware appears to have about 100MiB of "added features" that I'd prefer not to have.
Being that the risk appears to be negligible I may attempt to push the system.img from another carrier to see what happens.
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You can flash other carrier images, sprint and us cell are 2 CDMA carriers without any issues, system IMG ,boot IMG and non_hlos.bin are the files you need (not motoboot.IMG that's the bootloader)
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So many of the brick stories I'm reading about could have been avoided had people trying to expedite the upgrade to 4.4.2 just flashed everything but the bootloader?
At some point I need to figure out how to get one of the bloatless system files VZ X as I'm not sure where the 100MB of stuff comes from.
Next steps, tell self "yes this phone is worth keeping" and unlock the bootloader.
Again, thanks for your patience
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So many of the brick stories I'm reading about could have been avoided had people trying to expedite the upgrade to 4.4.2 just flashed everything but the bootloader?
At some point I need to figure out how to get one of the bloatless system files VZ X as I'm not sure where the 100MB of stuff comes from.
Next steps, tell self "yes this phone is worth keeping" and unlock the bootloader.
Again, thanks for your patience
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Yes but people always jump in head first, the only issue is if they happen to flash the old system.img 4.4 and have the 4.4.2 boot loader, chances are they will end up hard bricked, why? Going back to 4.4 will ping moto servers for the ota, it gets downloaded and installed, bam hard bricked,
If you flash just system.img , do not take any ota at all
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Are you bricked after the OTA? Here's how to unbrick it, locked or unlocked.
One other note: this is NOT an official 183 FXZ, so if this doesn't work, it won't make things worse, but you'll just have to wait for the "official" 183 FXZ.
Thanks go to stras1234 for providing a KK FXZ for those that needed it to unbrick their phone.
Another big thanks goes to SamuriHL for providing a tool to use the FXZ provided by stras1234 to make your job easier to unbrick your phone and get you running with KK.
Go here to get the FXZ and tool to help you profit in the glory that is Kit Kat on the XT926 Droid RAZR HD -> http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/45494-how-to-xt926-upgrade-to-kitkat-ota/
I have removed all my instructions as they are useless and no longer necessary with the FXZ being released.
Recommended strictly for unlocked bootloaders? Or would those of us with locked bootloaders be safe attempting as well providing we're on stock 9.30?
hi @iBolski i just want you to know that i share your post on the kk tracking post!
cmchance said:
Recommended strictly for unlocked bootloaders? Or would those of us with locked bootloaders be safe attempting as well providing we're on stock 9.30?
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If you're already on stock 9.30, then it should work. I think the hang-ups for many who are manually loading it themselves via taking the OTA directly, were where if you were pushed the OTA and immediately accepted it and allowed it to go through and update it, it might have worked as long as you were unrooted on stock 9.30.
However, I chose to save the OTA off to the side (from the /cache directory) and hence, booted into the recovery manually, not realising that it installs a newer stock recovery and that's where I got hung up at. I thought the install failed, when in reality, I had to go back into the recovery and install it again. Of course, I tried using vol-down + vol-up and it wouldn't work.
If you currently have root though under 9.30, you might want to hold off until someone verifies if root can be obtained again. Because, without an unlocked boot loader, you will more than likely lose your access to root, especially if the latest "exploit" for 9.30 doesn't work under KK.
Your mileage may vary, but I don't have a locked bootloader phone to test this out on, so please, I do not accept any responsibility for what may happen if you try it, whether you have a locked or unlocked bootloader.
Thanks!
Just what I was needing to hear! I am currently rooted so I'll probably hold off. I've got a used Moto X on order though, should get it in today. After I test it out and verify that I can tolerate it and the smaller battery, then I might do some experimenting with the xt926 model I have and report back. Though, as anticipated as this update is, I'm sure someone will have already beat me to all the testing within a few hours from now lol
I'm on 9.30 with locked bootloader. I've tried your method but can't get pass signature verification. It just won't be installed on 9.30 firmware. There must be anything can be mess in updater script to avoid error signature.
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Hi! Can you please share "Blur_Version.9.30.1XT926.Verizon.en.US.zip" on dropbox gdocs or smth like that?
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Hi! Can you please share "Blur_Version.9.30.1XT926.Verizon.en.US.zip" on dropbox gdocs or smth like that?
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I can't share the file, but if you look in the KitKat Tracking thread, you should find it there somewhere.
As an official soak tester, I'm not supposed to share the update. Technically, I'm not supposed to share ANY info, but I wanted to share this with other users who were having the same issue as I.
Thanks!
I do not believe the KK update for 9.30 has been shared anywhere.
No where that I can find. I've been scouring and following the forums waiting to find one myself.
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There you go, found it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pGrRdP0CpyckJnd2JoQklHSjQ/
But I have another problem now: It says "Not a valid aboot" and aborts
I'm not worried about it right now, Moto Verizon just posted saying they approved the soak test and updates would be rolling out.
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http://www.droid-life.com/2014/05/1...id-razr-hd-and-razr-m-on-verizon/#more-139933
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Sabissimo said:
There you go, found it:
https://drive . google.com/file/d/0B8pGrRdP0CpyckJnd2JoQklHSjQ/
But I have another problem now: It says "Not a valid aboot" and aborts
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did your phone actually ota to 9.30 or did you use a sbf/utility and flashed it to 9.30?
the problem some people are having is, they flashed to 9.30 but the correct version they should be on is 9.18 and this post http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/44920-xt926-update-1824610-update/?p=431391 explains why thats a problem.
Sabissimo said:
There you go, found it:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8pGrRdP0CpyckJnd2JoQklHSjQ/
But I have another problem now: It says "Not a valid aboot" and aborts
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I got it! I used this link 'below' to finally get it to update while using this thread for advice. Thank so much!
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=5
Now to try saferoot...???
For all my 9.30.1 people, I love you guys too.http://pan.baidu.com/s/1eQimdea
Enjoy that official KK ota for 9.30.1 over that slow ass chinese server and stop trying to get the 9.18.94 to work.
bweN diorD said:
did your phone actually ota to 9.30 or did you use a sbf/utility and flashed it to 9.30?
the problem some people are having is, they flashed to 9.30 but the correct version they should be on is 9.18 and this post http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/44920-xt926-update-1824610-update/?p=431391 explains why thats a problem.
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I flashed to 9.30. When I received the OTA from the soak push, I saved the OTA off to the side and didn't apply it immediately. Then, when I attempted to apply it (after using House of Moto to fastboot it back to 9.30 stock), it rebooted after it started applying and then went back to the recovery screen, but at that point, they had changed how you get into it. It's now volume-up + power, not volume-down + volume-up.
In any case, that second step needs to happen where you go back and re-apply the OTA.
I'm thinking if I would have taken the OTA automatically right after it downloaded, it was probably automated. That, or maybe Motorola/Verizon decided to make it a game and see if people could figure it out? :silly:
Safe root for me was a no go. But kitkat is pretty nice!
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Thanks for all the info. Got KK up and running
I used these instructions - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52602576&postcount=1
and I used this file - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52610188&postcount=11
All last night I tried using the leaked file someone put up from that "slow ass Chinese server" haha. Long story short, it didn't work at all.
This morning I tried again, and nothing. So I tried this file (the one I linked up top) and it worked like a charm. I installed it via recovery, phone rebooted, used vol up + power to get into new KK recovery, applied leaked file again, and boom I got KK.
As someone in another thread said, during the update it does say "Phase 1 possibly complete". WTF is that all about?
I've flashed my Razr Maxx HD to Kitkat using that slow Chinese server. I'm so happy it runs much smoother than JB. Everything seems fast and smooth. The new aosp lockscreen is much better than blur lockscreen. The aosp messaging is also nice. I can live without root for a while coz I already have a Photon Q modding to max. The only thing I dislike is the stock launcher which is not transparent anymore. So,I replace it with Nova Launcher Prime. It looks better now. Btw,I'm using GSM network and I notice signal is better than previous JB.
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I've flashed my Razr Maxx HD to Kitkat using that slow Chinese server. I'm so happy it runs much smoother than JB. Everything seems fast and smooth. The new aosp lockscreen is much better than blur lockscreen. The aosp messaging is also nice. I can live without root for a while coz I already have a Photon Q modding to max. The only thing I dislike is the stock launcher which is not transparent anymore. So,I replace it with Nova Launcher Prime. It looks better now. Btw,I'm using GSM network and I notice signal is better than previous JB.
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Glad it's all working for you now. It definitely performs better than JB ever did.
I have a RAZR M with the .15 firmware, and since it has been so many years since the last method, there's got to be someone who has found an exploit by now.
However, if not, I think the stock firmware is alright enough. I'd need a way to root, debloat, remove gapps, and decrease DPI though.
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I have a RAZR M with the .15 firmware, and since it has been so many years since the last method, there's got to be someone who has found an exploit by now.
However, if not, I think the stock firmware is alright enough. I'd need a way to root, debloat, remove gapps, and decrease DPI though.
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The SunShing apk at theroot.ninja will unlock the bootloader but it costs $25.00.