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I've made a bit of a mess and I need help please. My s4 is softbricked, but as softbricks go, it's rather hard.
I have an early S4 i9505 bought from Carphone Warehouse (UK, unlocked, pre knox). I rooted it, installed TBackup, greenify and got it how I wanted it. Then I downloaded a stock firmware from Sammobile and tested to see if I could get it back to 'warranty' condition, which was a success.
Confident that I could obtain warranty if I needed it, I re-rooted it, installed TB and greenify, and it ran sweetly for months from that point onwards.
I read about the arrival of updates (and knox) and concluded I didn't need them. It was working, leave it alone.
Then out of the blue, my nice stable machine broke. I didn't change anything I was aware of to cause it.
No normal boot.
No recovery.
Download only.
Using Odin, I tried allsorts, eventually getting the same Sammobile firmware to run.
2 days later, it broke again, same as before, but worse!?
Then I tried all sorts of stuff downloading no end of things trying to get it to boot or even go into recovery. The most promising approach was to reload the firmware along with a .pit file, but still no joy. I've lost track of the other things I tried, but I've been doing it for a week, so a lot has been done. In desperation, I even tried downloading the latest firmware, so I now have signs of knox of the odin page.
I now have the following symptoms:
Booting into recovery brings up the blue 'booting recovery' message then just blackness.
Normal boot is exactly the same as above.
Unpowered conection to my laptop gives a 5 second boot loop featuring the buzz only.
I can reliably boot into download and download stuff with Odin and change the little Odin page status messages. After (foolishly) trying the latest firmware, these messages say
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME GT-I9505
CURRENT BINARY Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: enable
eMMC BURST MODE enabled
Please can anyone give me some advice on what else I could try?
Thanks
Steve
Wrinklespots said:
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME GT-I9505
CURRENT BINARY Samsung Official
SYSTEM STATUS Official
KNOX KERNEL LOCK 0x0
KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0x0
CSB-CONFIG-LSB 0x30
WRITE PROTECTION: enable
eMMC BURST MODE enabled
Please can anyone give me some advice on what else I could try?
Thanks
Steve
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If anything else is not working (especially, if you're unable to go to recovery) I'd call sammy service center. Your download mode says that you did not rooted your phone, and knox is untouched either.
spamtrash said:
If anything else is not working (especially, if you're unable to go to recovery) I'd call sammy service center. Your download mode says that you did not rooted your phone, and knox is untouched either.
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Thanks for looking spamtrash.
I was wondering if I could get away with that. It does look good from the Odin display, but the flash counter must have a pretty high number in it by now! Won't that show up somewhere?
Do you think it does actually have a fault on it, rather than just some software that's messed up and needs tweaking?
Thanks
Steve
Wrinklespots said:
Thanks for looking spamtrash.
I was wondering if I could get away with that. It does look good from the Odin display, but the flash counter must have a pretty high number in it by now! Won't that show up somewhere?
Do you think it does actually have a fault on it, rather than just some software that's messed up and needs tweaking?
Thanks
Steve
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1. Are you able to go to recovery mode?
2. Assuming that your previous communicates were taken from the screen in download mode - you're clean.
If answer for 1 is: NO, and assuming 2: do not bother the flash counter. Flash counter does not means you messed with custom ROMs, it just means amount of the ROM update tries. As they are unable to prove that the counter was not increased by failed KIES updates, you're safe.
To go deeper, service will have to flash and wipe your phone.
One thing: remove your sd card prior to giving/sending it out.
Try a different usb cable.I was in same boat as you (after stupidly thinking mobile odin pro liked modems).
Luckily I had an unused cable off my tab 3.
So I recently installed a custom kernel so I could change my SELinux status to Permissive to use NTFS mount, and now I just realized I lost private mode. Installing a stock kernel should give that back to me, as Knox will no longer be tripped.
Can anyone help me with the stock kernel? Data is expensive where I live, so downloading the stock firmware isn't really an option, but I know the kernel should be rather small.
Please help! Thank you!
Not going to work the way you seem to think. If you installed a custom kernel, you would have incremented your Knox flag to 0x1. Reverting to a stock kernel will not reset the Knox flag, so barring any unexpected advances regarding Knox, you won't be getting your private mode back unless you explicitly saved your private mode container encryption keys in advance.
As to the stock kernel, if you still need it, it will vary by firmware version /carrrier and you didn't even provide that basic information about your phone. Search the forum to see if anyone has posted the extracted version of kernel that you need. If not, then download the stock firmware to your PC (since you don't want to pay for mobile data) and use winrar to extract it.
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Thanks for the reply. Didn't know it was carrier based to be honest. As for the Knox flag, I don't mean the warranty counter in download mode. That's been gone long ago. I merely mean the software Knox "we have detected unauthorized actions" messages. Soon as that tripped, no more private mode. But I know flashing the stock kernel should solve it. Regardless, I've searched the forum, all I can find is either the full firmware which I'm now biting the bullet and getting, or custom kernels which got me into this mess. I could remove the message by using wanam or even supersu to remove Knox all together, but my end game is to get private mode back.
Reverting to the stock kernel will remove the "we have detected unauthorized actions" message. It will not reset the Knox flag, nor restore access to your private mode. Note that the Knox flag is different from the flash counter.
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So the only way to reset the Knox flag is via reflashing stock rom? Because that's how I got private mode back last time. As I said, my Knox flag in download mode has been 0x1 for a very long time, and private mode worked fine.
HrBingR said:
So the only way to reset the Knox flag is via reflashing stock rom? Because that's how I got private mode back last time. As I said, my Knox flag in download mode has been 0x1 for a very long time, and private mode worked fine.
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The only way that I know of to restore private mode with an incremented Knox flag (0x1) is if you have saved the container encryption keys. I can only assume that you do have the keys extant on your device. Based on your previous experience, then do as you did before. Which is to say that restoring the full firmware (or perhaps even just stock kernel) should give you private mode back on the assumption that your keys are present in /userdata. As compared to someone who no longer has the keys and cannot regain private mode with a 0x1 flag period.
If somehow you don't have the keys and can re-enable private mode with a 0x1 flag, we'd like to know how. But for the moment, we'll just assume that you have the keys on your handset and doing as you did before will restore private mode in your case.
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fffft said:
The only way that I know of to restore private mode with an incremented Knox flag (0x1) is if you have saved the container encryption keys. I can only assume that you do have the keys extant on your device. Based on your previous experience, then do as you did before. Which is to say that restoring the full firmware (or perhaps even just stock kernel) should give you private mode back on the assumption that your keys are present in /userdata. As compared to someone who no longer has the keys and cannot regain private mode with a 0x1 flag period.
If somehow you don't have the keys and can re-enable private mode with a 0x1 flag, we'd like to know how. But for the moment, we'll just assume that you have the keys on your handset and doing as you did before will restore private mode in your case.
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I'm not even sure what keys you're talking about? I was on cm, loaded up Odin and flashed my phone, wiped data and private mode worked. It's always worked except in cases with custom kernels and where Knox was removed o disabled. I've never backed up any keys for Knox in user data at all, and my warranty flag is 0x1. Has been for ages. The only time I've seen private mode not work is if software Knox is tripped/removed. For example, I'd install stock rom and use towelroot to root and private mode worked great. I've never done anything to backup Knox encryption keys.
Thanks for all the help mate.
Hi to all,
sorry to use the bold character but it's REALLY an unbreakable enigma. It regards My fiancee Galaxy s5 g900f no brand ITV and that one of another user.
The thread in wich we found to be in the same situation is T H I S.
The phone was never touched, modified or altered in anyway as my fiancee doesn't even know what "root" or "rom" means. It was bought in november 2014, used with whatsapp, facebook and two games.
It was updated using wifi OTA to lollipop BOA3 ITV. Update was successful, she didn't wipe data as there were only 4-5 apps on it and the phone was working normally. It stayed this way for more than one month, no problems at all.
It was never touched in anyway, never diverted from the original. A very noob utilization to clarify.
At mid April one day when the phone was on the table in standby , we saw it rebooting. Then worked normally.
The day after it, two more reboots while doing anything , on the third one it appeared "SET WARRANTY BIT KERNEL" and BEGAN TO BOOTLOOP.
The bootloop starts right after "Samsung Galaxy s5 powered by android " and never ends.
Sometimes it gets stuck at "set warranty bit kernel".
THE PHONE ENTERS DOWNLOAD MODE always when pressing vol down,home,power.
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS ENTERS RECOVERY MODE. Sometimes gets stucked in "booting recovery. Recovery is not selinux enforcing. Set warranty bit recovery"
Me and one other guy on androidforums have tried everything:
-1. wipe cache, data and dalvick from stock recovery (it was difficult to enter it but done multiple times)
-2. flashing with ODIN stock images (OFFICIAL ITV FOR ME) . Kitkat and Lollipop officials. ALWAYS GREEN LIGHT PASS!
2.1 Updating bootloaders when going from kitkat to lollipop and viceversa.
2.2 Checking repartitioning using the right ITV PIT files.
2.3 wiping before and after that.
-3 flashing from KIES in FW UPGRADE MODE and emergency mode.
-4 flashed custom recovery. It gets stuck multiple times but the other guy managed to boot into Philz, formatting every partition,
-5 installing CYANOGENMOD 12 but it loads the cyanogen bootanimation for 1 sec, then bootloop.
With lollipop it gets stuck on the samsung bootloader logo.
With kitkat it gets to samsung bootanimation (led and audio working) but never ends.
ONE TIME IT MANAGED TO ARRIVE TO "upgrading android applications 1 of 1" for 2 seconds then bootloops (and it was data clean! so what app is it upgrading?!?)
the status in Odin mode is
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SM-G900F
CURRENT BINARY: CUSTOM
SYSTEM STATUS: CUSTOM
REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): OFF
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0*1 (1)
QUALCOM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)
RP SWREV: S1, T1, R1, A1, P1
SECURE DOWNLOAD : ENABLE
UDC START
But it was never modified with anything! and it stays this way after an original rom flash! (shouldn't be at least reporting "official" ?)
SAMSUNG SERVICE IN ITALY REFUSED TO REPAIR IT SAYING THAT WARRANTY IS VOID DUE TO CUSTOM MODS.
Don't know what to do. I've tried almost everything.
WE BEG FOR YOU HELP , PLEASE.
P.S. sorry if I have mistaken the thread section or the title
oile said:
Hi to all,
sorry to use the bold character but it's REALLY an unbreakable enigma. It regards My fiancee Galaxy s5 g900f no brand ITV and that one of another user.
The thread in wich we found to be in the same situation is T H I S.
The phone was never touched, modified or altered in anyway as my fiancee doesn't even know what "root" or "rom" means. It was bought in november 2014, used with whatsapp, facebook and two games.
It was updated using wifi OTA to lollipop BOA3 ITV. Update was successful, she didn't wipe data as there were only 4-5 apps on it and the phone was working normally. It stayed this way for more than one month, no problems at all.
It was never touched in anyway, never diverted from the original. A very noob utilization to clarify.
At mid April one day when the phone was on the table in standby , we saw it rebooting. Then worked normally.
The day after it, two more reboots while doing anything , on the third one it appeared "SET WARRANTY BIT KERNEL" and BEGAN TO BOOTLOOP.
The bootloop starts right after "Samsung Galaxy s5 powered by android " and never ends.
Sometimes it gets stuck at "set warranty bit kernel".
THE PHONE ENTERS DOWNLOAD MODE always when pressing vol down,home,power.
IT DOESN'T ALWAYS ENTERS RECOVERY MODE. Sometimes gets stucked in "booting recovery. Recovery is not selinux enforcing. Set warranty bit recovery"
Me and one other guy on androidforums have tried everything:
-1. wipe cache, data and dalvick from stock recovery (it was difficult to enter it but done multiple times)
-2. flashing with ODIN stock images (OFFICIAL ITV FOR ME) . Kitkat and Lollipop officials. ALWAYS GREEN LIGHT PASS!
2.1 Updating bootloaders when going from kitkat to lollipop and viceversa.
2.2 Checking repartitioning using the right ITV PIT files.
2.3 wiping before and after that.
-3 flashing from KIES in FW UPGRADE MODE and emergency mode.
-4 flashed custom recovery. It gets stuck multiple times but the other guy managed to boot into Philz, formatting every partition,
-5 installing CYANOGENMOD 12 but it loads the cyanogen bootanimation for 1 sec, then bootloop.
With lollipop it gets stuck on the samsung bootloader logo.
With kitkat it gets to samsung bootanimation (led and audio working) but never ends.
ONE TIME IT MANAGED TO ARRIVE TO "upgrading android applications 1 of 1" for 2 seconds then bootloops (and it was data clean! so what app is it upgrading?!?)
the status in Odin mode is
ODIN MODE
PRODUCT NAME: SM-G900F
CURRENT BINARY: CUSTOM
SYSTEM STATUS: CUSTOM
REACTIVATION LOCK(KK): OFF
KNOX WARRANTY VOID: 0*1 (1)
QUALCOM SECUREBOOT: ENABLE (CSB)
RP SWREV: S1, T1, R1, A1, P1
SECURE DOWNLOAD : ENABLE
UDC START
But it was never modified with anything! and it stays this way after an original rom flash! (shouldn't be at least reporting "official" ?)
SAMSUNG SERVICE IN ITALY REFUSED TO REPAIR IT SAYING THAT WARRANTY IS VOID DUE TO CUSTOM MODS.
Don't know what to do. I've tried almost everything.
WE BEG FOR YOU HELP , PLEASE.
P.S. sorry if I have mistaken the thread section or the title
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facing exactly the same problem , any Devs kind enuff to enlighten us on this ?
No one could help?
Looks like a broken NAND(The 16GB storasge of the device) chip to me... It should be replaced with a new one to fix the problem. Repartitioning it won't fix it at all and 1 thing you've done wrong is flashing it with custom ROMs after it broke. You should have claimed warranty first before you tried the custom ROMs solution.
Now the only solution to this is approach samsung again and ask how much would it cost you replacing your S5's NAND. Nothing can be done here software wise. The explanation you made points only to this problem.
Being stuck in "Samsung Galaxy s5 powered by android" only means that the kernel won't even load at all and you flashing the kernel with stock & CM version and still encountering this issue only means it's a NAND problem.
I claimed the warranty repair before trying custom rom. I haven't had the possibility to try custom roms at all because the phone is not mine. But xtaeyeon who has the same problem did and cyanogenmod didn't boot.
Now, being you so kind giving your advice, is there any possibility to restore broken sectors on the nand? Or is there a way to have the nand chip only replaced? Do you know any repair center that can do that without buying a new motherboard?
It is so strange that it came out of nowhere exactly the same problem for me, xtaeyeon and another guy on a Spanish forum who changed the board to have it repaired.
As we are on different countries I couldn't tell if there's such a way for you to do that. Here in our country local phone technicians buy broken phones and salvage their parts to repair phones such as this. Hence if you were here I could say yes there's a way to fix it without having to replace the board.
Next is you said that you didn't flash custom ROMs on that device then why not claim for a warranty repair then? Is it out of warranty already? If it's still under warranty then I suggest you return it for replacement to them. You have every right to have it fixed for free and if they say that warranty is void because you modified the software then insist that you didn't and have a real technician from samsung decide.
As for restoring broken sectors... I don't think this is the problem at all. Cause if it is the filesystem configured on the NAND should have isolated the bad sectors automatically and allocate the files to good sectors indeed. I believe that the NAND chip here is totally broken like when you transfer files in there the file you transferred gets corrupted.
oile said:
I claimed the warranty repair before trying custom rom. I haven't had the possibility to try custom roms at all because the phone is not mine. But xtaeyeon who has the same problem did and cyanogenmod didn't boot.
Now, being you so kind giving your advice, is there any possibility to restore broken sectors on the nand? Or is there a way to have the nand chip only replaced? Do you know any repair center that can do that without buying a new motherboard?
It is so strange that it came out of nowhere exactly the same problem for me, xtaeyeon and another guy on a Spanish forum who changed the board to have it repaired.
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Samsung said it is out of warranty because of Knox 0x1 and "custom" condition of binary and system. But it was never Flashed with anything different than the lollipop ota.
I don't know what to do. If it really is the new motherboard, my fiancé cannot afford it cause the Galaxy s5 was a gift. :/
oile said:
Samsung said it is out of warranty because of Knox 0x1 and "custom" condition of binary and system. But it was never Flashed with anything different than the lollipop ota.
I don't know what to do. If it really is the new motherboard, my fiancé cannot afford it cause the Galaxy s5 was a gift. :/
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If you live in the EU the knox thing is irrelevant, they're required to service you anyway by law.
You have a right to flash the OS of your choice in EU. Sometimes they try to get rid of customers, basically they have an unofficial policy of avoiding giving you free service when possible. You just need to literally tell them you won't take no for an answer (this makes miracles happen) and that you won't leave until you get the service they owe you.
But if you live outside of EU, well, then I don't know.
Hi.
I can't find answer to this. I know that triangle away delete the number of installed custom roms but does they have any way to check that i had custom roms? I know the issues with samsung and warranty policy so i want to be sure that i can fight back if they refuse to fix my phone because of knox. (overheating) If they do this, this will be my last samsung phone.
Triangle Away worked when all the S4 had was the flash counter, but it doesn't do anything when it comes to the Knox flag. Once the Knox flag is tripped by installing a custom recovery, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it. So Samsung has an easy way to check.
If warranty is a concern, there are ways to root that do not trip the flag. However, you're stuck with Touchwiz.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Triangle Away worked when all the S4 had was the flash counter, but it doesn't do anything when it comes to the Knox flag. Once the Knox flag is tripped by installing a custom recovery, it stays tripped. There is no way to reset it. So Samsung has an easy way to check.
If warranty is a concern, there are ways to root that do not trip the flag. However, you're stuck with Touchwiz.
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Oh i know it (i used to change firmware on old sony ericsson phones). I can lie about the knox since some people get it changed by samsung tools, thats why im asking if they have any other way than knox, like under bootloader. My phone is overheating because of hardware problem, i want to be prepared for service reject (stories about rejecting repair of defective screen etc.).
They might not even check the flash counter. You can give it a shot. The worst that might happen is that they send it back (Unless they repair it without consulting with you and charge you for it).
My phone also gets pretty hot when playing games and the phone is charging at the same time. It burns my finger if I keep it in one place, literally.
I guess that's how they intended it to work..
@VanHelsing091: I misunderstood your question. Sorry about that. As GDReaper points out, they may not even check for a tripped Knox flag. If they don't, there's really no way we know of that they can tell if the device has had a custom ROM flashed.
@GDReaper
But mine is getting 50 degrees on main screen, watching photos etc. over 65 while doing anything else, over 70 while charge and using chrome even on locked cpu clocks under 1300mhz.
@Strephon Alkhalikoi
Thanks. If they refuse to repair my phone on warranty because of knox - that will be a lie (damaging phone by custom rom... sure, without touching OC in kernel tools), so i wanted to be sure if i can lie too about phone history, it happened before triggering knox anyway.
Im hoping for the best and good service, if not then i may start one of those big posts about company vs user. Thanks again.
Hey,
Im performing a restart to Note 4, and this error message shown at start and dissappear after 5 sec.
Picture added. (yellow line said: "Set Warranty Bit: karnel")
I had installed NamesLess Rom & Karnel
Now i tried to flash other rom (SimplRom) but no change about error message.
Any idea how to fix this please?
TheDrag0n said:
Hey,
Im performing a restart to Note 4, and this error message shown at start and dissappear after 5 sec.
Picture added. (yellow line said: "Set Warranty Bit: karnel")
I had installed NamesLess Rom & Karnel
Now i tried to flash other rom (SimplRom) but no change about error message.
Any idea how to fix this please?
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this error is caused by lack of reading.
If you search before posting, this kind of error does not occur
It just stands there because your knox is triggered.
When you flash a custom firmware and/or root you phone, it gets flagged as 'modified' once forever and you can't recover the former status any longer, which means you can't use knox and, to some extent, depending upon the country where you bought your phone, your warranty is over.
lucaoldb said:
It just stands there because your knox is triggered.
When you flash a custom firmware and/or root you phone, it gets flagged as 'modified' once forever and you can't recover the former status any longer, which means you can't use knox and, to some extent, depending upon the country where you bought your phone, your warranty is over.
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thank you for the comment.
Flash a stock kernel.that s all you need