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[Q] paranoid note user wanting to install paranoid android

if you read my last threads you will know i mashed my other note to pieces....
on my desire i would flash roms 3 each week without messing the phone up, so after messing up my note through formatting through cwm while on ics i am a little/lot scared about doing it again..
so i want a little help if you guys would be so kind :laugh:
i dont have the new phone with me right now, but this time i am going to learn how NOT to brake the phone before i start playing with it.
so could you please walk me through this, explain to me as you would explain to a child LOL
so as i understand it, i need to keep to gingerbread then root it, go into recovery and flash the rom from there? do i use the normal phone recovery to do this or do i have to install cwm?
i am a little worried about using cwm again tbh, or can i use mobile odin?
i want to know the easiest way, the most fool proof....
damn i was never this worried with my desire.
your probably thinking "if you are so scared then why bother" right? its just the phone is so damn laggy, even compared to my desire which was built by cave men
cheers for the help guys, asuming i get some ofcourse :fingers-crossed:

Start from a gingerbread rom, then fully root it and install clockworkmod, next boot into recovery(volume up+power+home button together). First flash paranoid android rom then flash gapps, lastly wipe data, cache partition and dalvik cache. Reboot and enjoy
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My phone just got delivered, I installed ics on it for a mo, I think I can go back to GB pretty easy when I want to can't I?
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Can i not just install franko kernal through cwm in ics and then flash a rom?
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mrcarlxx said:
Can i not just install franko kernal through cwm in ics and then flash a rom?
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Yes, you can flash from one of the supposedly known safe ics kernels to speed the process up BUT if you want to be 100% safe in flashing to any cm9, start with a gingerbread rom.
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Cool thanks, I will just do that when the time comes then, for some reason this phone is no where near as laggy as the last one, and I have all my apps I had on the other device plus more....

Welcome back mate, glad you got it sorted
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Welcome back mate, glad you got it sorted
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Lol yeah...i only had the phone a fortnight......on contract whoops lol
So is it still okay to root through cwm and then use mobile odin? Are there any decent roms out yet that have decent s pen usage?
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I also just received my note from samsung after bricking it with CWM. I am so afraid I might brick it again trying to install paranoid android since I have to wait nearly a month to have my phone back in case anything happen.
Just one question, as long as I'm on paranoid android, can I just format or factory reset my phone through settings or recovery or cwm safely? Thanks a lot.
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mrcarlxx said:
So is it still okay to root through cwm and then use mobile odin? Are there any decent roms out yet that have decent s pen usage?
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If you want to install paranoid, its cm based which means no touchwizz apps will work on it as they need the touchwizz framework. That being said, s pen still works fine and there are plenty of alternatives to the s apps (papyrus, memo etc). Also I've read that one of the devs is working on getting the s apps onto cm9 somehow, but not sure who or how its going. Also the cm9 kernel included for the rom is safe from the superbrick bug as its has the cap wlerase command disabled.
PA has a slightly different installation to other roms. I would highly recommend first installing stock rootable gb, root it and install cwm. Once that's in place perform factory reset.
Then download paranoid and g apps and copy them to external SD card.
Then FROM CWM recovery, you flash pa first by "installing zip from SD card", then do the same for g apps straight afterwards.
If you have any fc's or issues, enter back into cwm recovery and wipe cache and dalvik.
Boom, ready to go for full on paranoia
Its a truly great rom, very customisable and as ics should be.
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Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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mrcarlxx said:
Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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The safe kernel is included in the pa rom, cm9 kernel. So long as you flash it from cwm in gb you're fine it installs it automatically.
Think mobile Odin is only a paid for app... well worth it though. Check the forum, chainfire usually releases free versions to xda community.
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mrcarlxx said:
Thanks ST, so am I right in thinking if I go the cm route then I don't have to flash the kernel first. It will do it for me? So all I need to do is root it and get a safe kernel?
Is there a free mobile Odin app, I looked on the market but there is only the pro version...
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A lite version of Mobile Odin can be downloaded from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Exclusive to XDA users only.

If you asked me. I like the stock firmware not cm9 paranoid. Because you will lose your S-Memo, S-Note and S-Planner and also your myfiles and also the MHL. All of this features are important for me. Paranoid is cool firmware but you will loose this apps...
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SpyderTracks said:
The safe kernel is included in the pa rom, cm9 kernel. So long as you flash it from cwm in gb you're fine it installs it automatically.
Think mobile Odin is only a paid for app... well worth it though. Check the forum, chainfire usually releases free versions to xda community.
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Brilliant thanks
arifhanid said:
A lite version of Mobile Odin can be downloaded from here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1347899
Exclusive to XDA users only.
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Epic Good Lad
ryn888 said:
If you asked me. I like the stock firmware not cm9 paranoid. Because you will lose your S-Memo, S-Note and S-Planner and also your myfiles and also the MHL. All of this features are important for me. Paranoid is cool firmware but you will loose this apps...
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I hear you loose some of the accuracy of the pen too, tbh I don't really use though apps much but I do use the pen fairly often.
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Hi i just bough a Note 10.1 tablet (GT-N8013) but cant flash rom

Hello so i am happy using my Note but i want to install Jellybean. I rooted my device with the exploit app so i have already downloaded the CMW10 Nighties for GTN8013 and also Rom Mananger app. Can i just flash my device to the CMW10 nighties folder. Sorry if this is not the right place to post this but i cant post on the development forum, thanks.

jcesar085 said:
Hello so i am happy using my Note but i want to install Jellybean. I rooted my device with the exploit app so i have already downloaded the CMW10 Nighties for GTN8013 and also Rom Mananger app. Can i just flash my device to the CMW10 nighties folder. Sorry if this is not the right place to post this but i cant post on the development forum, thanks.
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You have to install twrp to install cm10.1. First download goo manager from the market then open app go to top right a press button and press install the script that will install twrp then it will reboot the tablet into recovery mode.
Backup ROM
Factory reset
Wipe cache
Then install ROM then gapps then press reboot
Post in Q/S next time Thanks
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Hi OK next time I will and thanks a lot it worked wonderfully except the camera doesn't work but I don't use it as much.
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jcesar085 said:
Hi OK next time I will and thanks a lot it worked wonderfully except the camera doesn't work but I don't use it as much.
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Not a problem welcome
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YOu might be better served with the redemption ROM, have you tried that. Its up to 4.1.2 and everything is working properly, good smooth ROM with all the samsung bells and whistles including multi-screen. Not a fan of cyano myself, nothing really gets finished and fully working, usually camera and video - not their fault but I prefer to have a fully working ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950040

I'm currently downloading the Rom you suggested and will see how it works.
Reading up on it sounds pretty stable
So will give feed back
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Hi I tried installing Goo but it didn't have a recovery image file for my note N8000 what do you suggest?
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Goo Manager wasn't able to find TWRP for me either. I just downloaded and installed it directly from here:
http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/110

Thanks for that but what I ended up doing after trying to instLl Rom and using cwm and I used the note 2 recovery settings
Well really bad idea. So what happen ws that the note decided to not boot properly. So I had to download recovery cwm recovery. And use Odin to install it on note. Then viola it work. I back up rom and install the rom
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da.trute said:
YOu might be better served with the redemption ROM, have you tried that. Its up to 4.1.2 and everything is working properly, good smooth ROM with all the samsung bells and whistles including multi-screen. Not a fan of cyano myself, nothing really gets finished and fully working, usually camera and video - not their fault but I prefer to have a fully working ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1950040
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Hi which ROM did you tried for the redemption? Anyways after a few days I am starting to miss the Samsung spen apps and the peel app which is not working on my note .
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Mate, now you've installed CWM, do yourself a favour. Look for the app on here called triangle away. It will reset your flash counter....

Help, noob interested in cyanogenmod

Never rooted before and dying to have the Google experience on my GS4. Can somebody just tell me the steps I need to know. Recommendations would be awesome!
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Step one, read beerdroids "how to" guide on root, flash, etc. Look in the general forum
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Here it is if you're too lazy to look it up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494

jd1639 said:
Step one, read beerdroids "how to" guide on root, flash, etc. Look in the general forum
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Nuff said.

these are threads that help me get thru a work day--

awesome guys. Im thinking of using casual to root

Worked fine for me
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I'm officially rooted!
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Congrats
Make nandroid NOW and put a copy on your pc
Read Read Read
I always read OP of Rom thread and first/last 20 pages before flashing--sometimes more

Yeah I backed it up on my SD card, next onto the computer. Now I need to work on cyanogenmod
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:good:

OK guys I've learned a lot in the past 12 hours. I appreciate all of the help. My question, is it easier just to download cyanogenmod on the rom manager app than downloading it thru the website?
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I would just go to the thread in the Original Development section on this forum, follow the direct link and download the latest nightly - I have experience with other devices but, after die research on here, bought my S4 this evening and had CM running ten minutes after I got home. You can do it too!
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Good deal, you graduated No seriously, download it direct from the site. This insures a good copy. Very easy setup, so go for it.
The Ax says Good luck and Good day!

Hey guys, what do you do with the AT&T over the air update? Disable?
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freeze the att updater with Titanium

rugmankc said:
freeze the att updater with Titanium
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Now as far as any OTA updates i want/need, what is the protocol in getting them?

You can't get them on a custom rom
I forget what I read on a custom recovery and rooted--getting older--
I think you need to go back to stock--someone can confirm
I haven't Googled that yet either
There were some rootkeeper apps that were used on my other phones, don't know what works here
I never took OTA's after rooted and flashing my other phones as dev's seemed to have updates faster than my carrier

MoReNitO303 said:
Now as far as any OTA updates i want/need, what is the protocol in getting them?
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Generally, the newer firmware versions that get pushed out as OTA updates will be incorporated into custom Touchwiz roms, such as ShoStock and Mint Jelly. However, if you flash CyanogenMod or any other AOSP-based rom such as SlimBean or AOKP, OTA updates will be completely meaningless. It's a different world altogether.
Either way, my advice is the same: Don't mess with OTA's. At best, they could give you the same features as a custom rom. At worst, they could kill the Loki exploit and lock your bootloader for good.

Updating Custom ROMs

I am using Purity 4.4 + Matrix 11.5 right now.
Now my question is how do you guys update your respective ROMs instead of flashing newer versions through recovery? I tried GooManager but it didn't work for me :-|

You should ask in thread about your rom. If devs do not do OTA update you must use recovery to update rom

I think most use recovery
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Download updated ROM zip file and flash through recovery (TWRP for myself).

no-skill said:
You should ask in thread about your rom. If devs do not do OTA update you must use recovery to update rom
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Well being a new member, I am not actually allowed to ask in ROM threads, that's why I asked here.
goofball2k said:
Download updated ROM zip file and flash through recovery (TWRP for myself).
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That's what I have been doing till now but I thought there may be some other method to update ROMs.
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not for Purity. You must update through custom recovery.
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saifulh2304 said:
not for Purity. You must update through custom recovery.
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I guess that's the only option I have. Thanks

ankurk said:
I guess that's the only option I have. Thanks
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Yes, I'm sure its not that hard to do anyway
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saifulh2304 said:
Yes, I'm sure its not that hard to do anyway
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It's not hard but sometimes you get too lazy

Simple. Set up VM environment there are simple walkthrough video and once your set up you can pull straight out of the devs or any branch. I do my own when I feel I need to add a feature I do. There are a major variety of bases to choose from. Its much easier than many think. In my opinion its safer as I know exactly what I'm getting. Not to mention an addiction lay within too. Lol Have fun bro. Welcome to the machine. Many new devs are so stoked when the first ROM they build is complete they can't stop. Lol peace.
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Droid2drummer said:
Simple. Set up VM environment there are simple walkthrough video and once your set up you can pull straight out of the devs or any branch. I do my own when I feel I need to add a feature I do. There are a major variety of bases to choose from. Its much easier than many think. In my opinion its safer as I know exactly what I'm getting. Not to mention an addiction lay within too. Lol Have fun bro. Welcome to the machine. Many new devs are so stoked when the first ROM they build is complete they can't stop. Lol peace.
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I do know stuff about Android development but I am too scared to try that kind of stuff. Can you link me to those tutorials or videos?

Simple ROM and Device compatibility question

I have a Nexus 4 running on 4.4.2 update base ROM. I've unlocked and rooted my phone, with multiple root tests to be sure. I've also downloaded the Franco kernel. Though its not working, so I assume its cause its a nightly version. From the information I've found those don't always work.
Back to my question though. My devices is a Mako, which goes along with being a Nexus 4 right. So why is it when I downloaded the cyanogenmod mako latest ROM it didn't work? Came up with an error comparing device and product as being mako, and some status 7 thing. I did a restore and now I'm here.
I've tried to install it view clockwork recovery, and from the ROM manager app. Both came up with those errors. Am I doing something wrong?
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It looks like you don't have the latest version of cwm on you're phone. Try updating you're CWM to the newest version. Or install twrp recovery ( newest version and try again.
Be warned if you install twrp recovery then you're backup made in cwm recovery wont work should you wish to use it.
Below is a screen shot showing you're problem.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.

Thanks. I updated clockwork and it worked perfectly. Though its extremely annoying that I don't get my apps and data and all that I would normally get when doing a regular Google based ROM. Is there a way to get all that with custom ROMs? Do I just need to do a flash of Google play store or something?
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TIrving89 said:
Thanks. I updated clockwork and it worked perfectly. Though its extremely annoying that I don't get my apps and data and all that I would normally get when doing a regular Google based ROM. Is there a way to get all that with custom ROMs? Do I just need to do a flash of Google play store or something?
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If you flash Gapps immediately after flashing the ROM, it should give you the options to download your apps and system settings during initial setup, if that's what you're asking.

TIrving89 said:
Thanks. I updated clockwork and it worked perfectly. Though its extremely annoying that I don't get my apps and data and all that I would normally get when doing a regular Google based ROM. Is there a way to get all that with custom ROMs? Do I just need to do a flash of Google play store or something?
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You need to flash gapps package for google apps like playstore, gmail..etc. Link are often given together in the OP of the rom thread.

Excellent. Thank you all. I'll be sure to keep an eye out for those! You've all been a great help.
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One more question. Kernels. I know some are ment purely for custom ROMs. But is there a place I can get Kernels for a stock ROM? I haven't decided on a custom ROM yet, but I'd like to tweak this one as much as I can before.
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They support both, the exception being with CM kernels.
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bladebuddy said:
It looks like you don't have the latest version of cwm on you're phone. Try updating you're CWM to the newest version. Or install twrp recovery ( newest version and try again.
Be warned if you install twrp recovery then you're backup made in cwm recovery wont work should you wish to use it.
Below is a screen shot showing you're problem.
Phone : Nexus 4 /Rom : cataclysm / Kernel : Stock.
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thanks!