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Hey guys! I just need a little help here.... I had issues with my camera with pictures being bad quality in the dark .... called Google and HTC .... finally HTC decided to replace or repair the device! Though Google agent stated I would be entitled for a new device, HTC at the end of the conversation mentioned it would be "like new" but not new phone. My phone is only a week old! I have no experience with repair/replacement with HTC and I would appreciate if you can share your experience with similar situation in the past!
Also, please vote your opinion at the top in next 3 days so I can decide quick!
TIA!
Their replacement units are basically the same as a new phone, no signs of wear or anything
How bad do your pictures look? You can't expect much from any phones with an LED flash in regards to night pictures. The only phones that take somewhat respectable pictures in the dark are the ones with xenon flash.
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Their replacement units are basically the same as a new phone, no signs of wear or anything
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I've had the opposite experience. The replacements that I received had new problems and one unit even had some light scratches on the screen. The most common aesthetic problem that I saw on the replacements was that the black piece sitting underneath the screen was not flush with the screen. Another one came with a weak vibrate and one of the other ones I remember had a problem with the camera, where the photos would turn up saturated (looking at the back of the camera, it looks like the camera had been tampered with or underwent repair).
I haven't had any experience with repairing the phone, however, if you're thinking about getting a replacement, I would only choose that as the last resort.
I had a discussion with a htc rep about the "like new" phones. I was told that they are actually better than new ones since they replace the motherboard, casing, and screen. Then they each go through the testing process. She said that the brand new phones don't all get tested, only around 1 in 5 or so.
I am not sure if this is true or not, just what was told to me on the phone.
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I had a discussion with a htc rep about the "like new" phones. I was told that they are actually better than new ones since they replace the motherboard, casing, and screen. Then they each go through the testing process. She said that the brand new phones don't all get tested, only around 1 in 5 or so.
I am not sure if this is true or not, just what was told to me on the phone.
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Get a new replacement phone. If you send it back to repair, you might end up 2 or 3 weeks without the phone according to HTC's track record.
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Get a new replacement phone. If you send it back to repair, you might end up 2 or 3 weeks without the phone according to HTC's track record.
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Yep it took me around 4 weeks for my last repair job. (had to get dust under screen fixed twice).
Next time I'm getting a replacement.
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Yep it took me around 4 weeks for my last repair job. (had to get dust under screen fixed twice).
Next time I'm getting a replacement.
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I've actually had very good experiences with HTC.
It takes about 3 days to ship to the HTC factory, they fixed my screen in under a day and had it back out with 2day shipping. So about 7 days, BUT the first time they fixed my phone, they didnt connect the camera or motherboard so my earpiece, camera, and flash would NOT work.
They fixed it again for free, and I did indeed get MY phone back. Not a refurb. I dropped my phone the first week and it had a scuff near the top which is indeed still there.
I think you should use a cheap replacement phone for a 1-2 weeks it will take for HTC to fix it rather then getting a refurb where you have no idea if it has DIFFERENT problems.
Thank you do much for all your response guys! They also gave me another option to authorize my credit card for full value of the phone, they send you a replacement phone then you play with it and then send the defective back in 10 days if not you pretty much buy both the phones. This option seems to be more attractive since I get to compare and decide, so I'm leaning more towards this but still waiting for some more experience / opinions
Thanks again
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Ok, I’m to the point of exploding. I have received 3 different refurbished Evo's from Sprint (Multiple Device Exchange Department). I kiddd you not, EVERY REPLACEMENT is worst than the last. 1st one had screen separation, second one had blown speaker right out the box, this last one had light gushing from the bottom of the screen. It was BAD! Noticeable during day time use! Anybody else experience this? I don’t think I’m being to demanding or picky. I paid $$$ for my fist evo and settled for these refurbs that are trash. Any suggestions? I got approved by a supervisor to receive a NEW one, when they become available. All the reps Ive spoken with said they have not seen new Evos available since the release date (for their department)
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Ok, I’m to the point of exploding. I have received 3 different refurbished Evo's from Sprint (Multiple Device Exchange Department). I kiddd you not, EVERY REPLACEMENT is worst than the last. 1st one had screen separation, second one had blown speaker right out the box, this last one had light gushing from the bottom of the screen. It was BAD! Noticeable during day time use! Anybody else experience this? I don’t think I’m being to demanding or picky. I paid $$$ for my fist evo and settled for these refurbs that are trash. Any suggestions? I got approved by a supervisor to receive a NEW one, when they become available. All the reps Ive spoken with said they have not seen new Evos available since the release date (for their department)
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My "Refurb" was actually a new white evo. At first I didn't want the white one, but it has since grown on me. That was the only complaint I have had with the "Refurb". Other than that, hardware wise, it is far nicer than the one I had got on release day. No screen seperation, no light leak, and it is actually louder than my first one. If I were you I would take the complaint to tier 3 in the retentions department. They always seem to find things that nobody else has.
It shouldn't be long. New Evo's have gone out to a lot of people. I've ordered 4 in the last month, and both times (2 at a time) they've taken about a week to arrive.
I just got my new Eco yesterday. They are in stock @ Sprint now!
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Ok, I’m to the point of exploding. I have received 3 different refurbished Evo's from Sprint (Multiple Device Exchange Department). I kiddd you not, EVERY REPLACEMENT is worst than the last. 1st one had screen separation, second one had blown speaker right out the box, this last one had light gushing from the bottom of the screen. It was BAD! Noticeable during day time use! Anybody else experience this? I don’t think I’m being to demanding or picky. I paid $$$ for my fist evo and settled for these refurbs that are trash. Any suggestions? I got approved by a supervisor to receive a NEW one, when they become available. All the reps Ive spoken with said they have not seen new Evos available since the release date (for their department)
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Funny exact thing happened to me, three refurbs within the last two weeks. I have given up though and just stuck with my original. Im sure around black Friday ill be looking for a new phone anyway.
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It shouldn't be long. New Evo's have gone out to a lot of people. I've ordered 4 in the last month, and both times (2 at a time) they've taken about a week to arrive.
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Yeah, but you are probably talking about buying new evos I think as opposed to getting a new unit from the damages department. If that is the case, he may be waiting a lot longer than a week. The refurb department would probably be one of the last departments to see a new evo. Let's face it, they already have his money.
But who knows maybe sprint customer service is improving.
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Yeah, but you are probably talking about buying new evos I think as opposed to getting a new unit from the damages department. If that is the case, he may be waiting a lot longer than a week. The refurb department would probably be one of the last departments to see a new evo. Let's face it, they already have his money.
But who knows maybe sprint customer service is improving.
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Pretty sure they come from the same place. Back when I had a Mogul, I went through 3 bad refurbs, and got upgraded to a new Touch Pro. Address it was shipped from was 2216 Outerloop Rd, Louisville, KY. (same address as the Evo's, and every other phone I've recieved from Sprint, business or personal) I don't think the "refurb dept" would have their own stock of new phones, when all they'd have to do is place the order through their computer system to be drawn from the warehouse.
That's great news then. That is way too many problems for them not to hook the op up.
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ok, so I have 4th Refurb Evo sitting in my front door via UPS, Im at work and Im feeling pretty good about this one. Maybe 4th time is the charm... cross your fingers fellas.. If not, I'll end up with slit wrists. jk lol
Finally
So I got my new phone and it is wayyyy better than the ones the sent me prior. Still some light leaks but I will live.
Now its like my Ex girl friend, shes a 8, but 9 in a dress. My evo is a 8, 9 with a hard cover..lol
Got a refurb here as well and far happier with it then the brand new one I had. My brand new one had slight screen seperation, nothing I would have noticed without reading the forums but the new "refurb" had 0 screen seperation it also had an Epson screen which is worlds better than the Nova screen my new one had. I have no complaints at all about this refurb, I was actually ecstatic when I saw them side by side as the Nova screen is the only real problem i've had with this phone and the Epson fixed that 100x over the screen actually seems comparable to iPhone 4 screen now only bigger.
Like I said i'm ecstatic and if you still get the same phones I highly recommend trading yours in for a refurb if they are still giving out the ones with Epson screens LOL I think you are far better off with the refurb IME anyway.
Cheers
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So I got my new phone and it is wayyyy better than the ones the sent me prior. Still some light leaks but I will live.
Now its like my Ex girl friend, shes a 8, but 9 in a dress. My evo is a 8, 9 with a hard cover..lol
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LOL, your ex was a liar..... her dress size should be smaller than her pant size, unless she wore extremely tight jeans...manufacturer tend to label the dress size 2 sizes smaller than it really is.... but she's your ex so who cares!!!
But back on topic: why are they using 002 as refurbished phones, we all ( me) ditched them because of all the problems!
Sprint rep told me they aren't shipping refurbed Evos yet... wtf.
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LOL, your ex was a liar..... her dress size should be smaller than her pant size, unless she wore extremely tight jeans...manufacturer tend to label the dress size 2 sizes smaller than it really is.... but she's your ex so who cares!!!
But back on topic: why are they using 002 as refurbished phones, we all ( me) ditched them because of all the problems!
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I think he meant she's an 8 on a scale of 1-10...Anyway, I got a "recertified" Evo from Asurion and it is way better than my Evo I got on day 1.
I went through 2 refurbs. First one came with a smashed screen. I almost couldn't get it returned because they thought I did it. Went all the way up to retentions, and was about to cancel my account, when they magically said to send it back, and they would ship out a new one.
The second one came, with VERY minor Light leakage. It also had some type of issue with I think the battery. The phone would get so hot to the point where I couldn't hold it. It also wouldn't charge when I didn't have it sitting under a fan.
My Third Evo has been a ****ing HULK! NO issues what so ever, and it's been dropped a few times... Not from up high, except for one situation. It's also been subject to EXTREME heat. I'm a fire fighter, and I forgot to take my phone off when I geared up. Ended up going into a fire for search and rescue. I didn't realize it was on me, until it started ringing and I could feel it vibrate. Phone still works like a champ, and just started getting pretty decent battery life (which I thought was pretty bad when I first got the phone) on Fresh 3.2.
From my experience (2 years working at a service and repair sprint store)
for the most part the Refurbs are 100% solid
BUT! I've also had to do like 4-5 exchanges in a row because all the refurbs my technician gave me were trash.
I've also exchanged 4 before and ran out of ones in stock and had to order a replacement haha.
but that only happened maybe 2-3x
(one time i think it was just like a double exchange)
Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
jody04c said:
Have purchased 8 HTC devices over the last 10 years and most recently the One M9. I was prepared to give HTC a chance when the press ridiculed them for lack of progress versus competitors.
My biggest problem was HTC's awful customer service/warranty department who when made aware of the sapphire glass on my rear camera failing would NOT repair it under warranty and told me that I would have to pay for it myself. The device has a Tempered Glass Protector on Screen and Camera along with a Spigen Case on top. My loyalty means nothing to HTC and I will NEVER spend my hard earned money on a HTC product again. I would NEVER recommend HTC to ANYONE and I can see now why the Company has gone into decline. Failure to look after Loyal customers will result in their demise when Samsung LG and Apple are vastly superior in this department.
My Galaxy S5 developed a problem with the rocker buttons and was fixed free of charge a full year into ownership. My iPhone 4s developed an issue with Battery and they simply replaced the device. HTC didn't want to know.
I feel that if this is how they treat their loyal customers then they simply deserve to fail. My hard earned money will be spent elsewhere from now on.
Have you guys had issues with HTC??? If you haven't yet considered a HTC device but might consider one then please do be careful.
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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I've had six M9's trying to get a phone without a bent frame around the screen! On the last one I thought that rather than return it to Amazon again, I would speak to HTC and see if they would fix the frame for me so I could keep it, as I really love the phone.
The customer service rep basically told me that I would have to pay for them to look at it and for any repairs made and that it was my fault for purchasing a cheap phone from Amazon and not from them directly.
So my reply was, do HTC make two versions of this phone, one cheap that has build quality problems and the other expensive which is perfect? She was confused and said all are the same?! Basically I told her that HTC have serious issues with this handset and she denied it. I highlighted the company is in trouble and that good service is needed to keep loyal customers from leaving, she didn't think HTC had any worries about it's business?! On complete denial about everything and no help at all.
So, long and short of it, I returned the handset to Amazon and will never go near HTC again. I used my local guy in China to source me a Nubia Z9 Mini so i can give the new IMX234 a go, as the camera looks bloody amazing, unlike the M9!
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Its no surprise they are a failing company when that is how they treat loyal customers who have a genuine quality control issue. The support from HTC is disgusting. I'm glad to hear they have lost another customer due to their awful support.
I have had zero problems with their customer service or warranty. In fact they corrected a problem sprint created. Everyone has a different experience. Samsung and apple both treated me like ****. Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Well there are also customers that drop their phone and it breaks glass, scratches, dents, dings, starts malfunctioning, etc....and then they call HTC and say it is defective and not their fault. Unfortunately HTC has no way of knowing who is lying and who is not. If they exchanged phones for every customer that claimed defect, they would be exchanging phones that people broke left and right. Certain things shouldn't come loose or start to rattle and if that starts happening they will know it is a defect once they get enough cases. Unfortunately with glass, it is the easiest and most common thing broken on a phone, so doing warranty replacements for broken glass is rare. A screen protector and case do nothing for protecting the camera glass. Most people this has happened to are blaming excessive heat. So I'm assuming you had your phone on the charger over night and it may have overheated from the charger. It would be nice if HTC would at least make an effort to investigate and see if this is possibly happening.
I've only had one experience with HTC customer service, but they replaced the pink tint camera on my M7 for just the labor costs even though it was out of warranty and two years old. YMMV, I guess.
I had this problem as well. It's like talking to a wall with these guys. If you say we will replace your phone no matter what the problem,no questions asked, than you best live up it. When I called, I was bombarded with questions and told I had to pay for them to fix it.
I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable). But there was a chance I'd have to pay for repair even though there was obviously damage related to neglect. Also, I work remotely, so I have to have my phone for work and the only option was for me to send it in and wait for repair. Anyway, I was frustrated and ended up taking the phone to an AT&T service center and sweet talking them to swap it out for me.
My second experience with HTC was more recent and much better. I had my M8 in my shirt pocket and bent over to pick something up and it slipped out onto the concrete. The glass cracked and there was damage to the metal body. This time I used chat support and the rep couldn't have been better to deal with. I told him what happened, and he checked and said I was eligible for a replacement under the screen replacement policy. I told him that the metal had also been damaged, and he asked me to describe the damage, and while he wouldn't say with 100% certainty that there wouldn't be a problem swapping it out (understandable since I could have been under-reporting the level of damage) he said kind of off the record that if the damage was as I described, there wouldn't be a problem. Anyway, they put a $599 hold on my card + $29 for overnight shipping and the next day I had my new M8 and sent my damaged one back. About a week later the hold was removed from my card.
Anyway, I've had awful CS experiences at a lot of places and then later had great ones. I think it's really hit or miss with these large corporations.
Finally, I think HTC is attempting to shift their warranty policy to be more liberal in replacing/repairing physically damaged phones and honoring warranty for unlocked ones. It seems like this shift isn't going as smoothly as some of us consumers would like.
cstrife999 said:
Hell apple charged me for a phone I didn't even have lol had to go to court.
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Please expand on that
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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My gd had an iPhone 4 though att and paid for apple care and the whatnot. Well she lost the sim card for it (don't ask) and we had to go to att to replace it. The clerk dropped and broke her phone. Att said they would give her a new one without issue as it was 100% fault of the store clerk. Apple sent an email claiming she was commuting fraud and the video evidence that was sent was altered. Att fought with them and eventually won. Well they gave her the phone and everything was fine. Then apple sent an email and a bill through the mail for damages for an iPhone 5s that she didn't have and claimed they could prosecute her for fraud... Yea... In the end apple got her a 5s and she got to keep the 4 as way of a settlement. She could have really ****ed apple up.
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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I think it goes to show how customer service can be inconsistent, which in itself is a problem.
My first 6plus had a sunken home button, so wouldn't 'click' as such and the edge of the hole in the glass where the button fits was sharp and uncomfortable to use. Walked in to my local Apple store and walked out with a brand new handset within 5mins, no questions asked.
Got my other half a iPhone 6 and had to return it as she won't move on from her G2, got a refund instantly, again no questions.
Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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Yeah, too often it seem to depend on what CSR you get, and how their supervisor has been behaving that week.
I've twice had to get the trackpad on my MBP replaced, both times were my fault (too much eating and drinking at my desk :silly, and both times Apple fixed it no questions asked under the protection plan.
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Anyone got any ideas how to get my wife away from the G2? Everything else I get for her to try she doesn't like because the bloody icons and app settings are different, between platforms and handsets!
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When you figure that out pls share the secret!
My wife has a freaking blackberry z10!!! That she doesn't want to give up because "everything is set up how she wants it".....
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I can tell you that Apple is undoubtedly the BEST in the service and support department! I just don't understand how these other companies can't see how simple it is and just do it the way Apple does! I mean, it makes me not want to buy another Samsung, LG or HTC product, because ALL of them I have had issues with at one point or another. The one time I had an issue with Apple I was so pissed off that I called in to customer care and spoke to a manager about the problem that I had at a store nearby. She saw that I had purchased about 10 Apple devices in the last 8 years or so, and gave me $150 credit for Apple accessories and also next day aired me a brand new 6 Plus because the Apple store would not replace it after I was having problems and I just got done spending almost a grand for the damn thing! These phones are expensive, and if these companies can't take care of us then go somewhere else because someone is willing to take care of you the right way! Just like this G4 I have that has marks on the display due to a screen coating issue at the plant. Because it;s an International model they won't touch it! WOW I understand that companies don't honor some warranties when you buy an imported phone, but when it's 3 days old and the phone just came out and it has defects that are 100% LG's fault, they should have just told me to send the damn thing in and they would fix it, now they lost my business! That just cost them quite a bit considering I buy EVERY damn flagship that comes out! (almost) They don't care though.... -END OF RANT-
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I'll just chime in with my own experience...
I had an HTC One Mini that developed hairline cracks in the plastic (this was a VERY common issue with this phone) and talking with HTC support was, like BR7fan said, talking to a freaking wall. They were totally unaware of the issue even though it was widely reported on XDA. They said they MIGHT be able to fix it for free, but they couldn't tell until they saw it (understandable).
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Uh they ARE aware of that, I talked about it with people from HTC (and Elevate) and they fixed my border without hassle (though I got a border back that's in even worse shape, but I blame Dynafix for that, not HTC.)
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Sorry, I should have clarified. This was about a month or two after they came out.
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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Ah yeah, my request was like a year after release.
But come on, if it was only a month or 2 after release it could be expected that they (the support) wasn't aware of that. Because at first hearing about it, HTC will most likely just sit by and keep eye on it, see if many experience it (as in a certain % compared to sold devices) and then decide to undertake action or just play ffin stupid.
Support can't be blamed with that, they just followed order
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I wasn't blaming the person. There was already a thread on XDA aboout the issue, but I imagine CS reps are discouraged from acknowledging internet speculation. I was frustrated with the system that was going to make me send my phone in for repair rather than them sending me a new one (with a CC hold, obviously) and then me sending the defective one back. I guess it wasn't clear in my post, but I use this phone for work and didn't have a backup.
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Haha, you should. It's exactly as you say it is to the company "just speculation", companies always use bull**** like "only vocal minority" to deceive others. So they rather keep it quiet and ignore forums like this on purpose
I owned a beautiful metallic red HTC One m7 untill recently. It was rooted + BL unlocked (not S-off) since day1 and never ran stock rom. I started noticing all the pictures were out of focus and that camera was stuck in macro mode. I took it back to shop for warranty (it was 1y 8 months old) and they sent it back to HTC for repair. Bootloader showed Relock and it was on an old stock rom nandroid that I found from internet
Almost 3 weeks later it was back, with new camera that was excellent again. They updated to latest Lollipop rom even, with BL still in relock. However they messed up upper speaker grill as the metal was no longer flush with body (stuck out enough to be clearly felt by finger when swiping on screen). I took it back to shop, complained and it got sent away again.
Another 2,5 weeks go by and I get the phone back. This time HTC completely changed the body and screen. It was like having a brand new One M7 in beautiful red. It had still same motherboard and still relock BL. However.... they forgot to install/connect the headset speaker.. so I had no sound when calling someone >_>. Back to shop, complain, explain and return the phone..
So a week later I got the phone back. Except I didnt get the phone back. What I got back was a 32GB M9 in gunmetal grey. I am both happy to have a proper upgrade and for free, a little sad to see my lovely M7 taken from me and quite disappointed in the QC of HTC repair centres.
Couple of days ago I preordered a handset so while waiting for it to come I have done customer service research and found something I came across with my Motorola that was virtually non-existing post purchase warranty service. I had my own case with M7 that I simply dropped the case after went forward sending my phone there and back for 2 times but the phone came back from repair centre crippled.
So today I found some repair centre story that in comparison to mine....well mine is a joke Guy went through 4 months of ordeal and zillion emails and without success. Lies upon lies. Ok that was in 2012. Mine case was in 2013. We all know HTC had nothing but a downward journey ever since.
I love what I see U 11 because of supperb camera and unparalleled audio experience in audio department BUT God forbid I will hate myself if anything goes wrong with phone and I have nothing but the trouble. Realistically HTC in red and last thing they can do is decent post purchase service I think they simply have neither infrastructure nor cash.
By the way in both cases phones were still covered by warranty and eligible for repair.
Tell me how was your warranty services in the last 1-2 years.
Thanks in advance.
I haven't sent any HTC phone for repair, but I did have an experience with Sony. I sent a phone for repair for few issues and the turnaround was pretty quick. It took Sony less than 2 days to repair/replace parts and send the phone back to me. I do believe it depends who you talk to and who processed the repair ticket and such. Sometimes there are user errors where customer doesn't follow the instruction which were provided before sending the phone in. The other times someone from the support makes a mistake in the system and this results in unnecessary headache and confusion. I am thinking about picking up U11 and not worried about not getting post-sale support. It is the obligation of the manufactures to handle any warranty services as it is the responsibility of the consumer to pay attention to the rules of the warranty.
Actually I had some issue with HTC customer service last year when I purchased my HTC 10. The charger stop working after 2 weeks and I mailed HTC service several times but they never answered me back. At the end I sold my HTC 10. But I am going to buy HTC U11 from a shop and not from any online store.
Consumer complaints about HTC..
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/htc.html
I've only dealt with HTC Chat customer service and I don't think anyone comes close to them. I've only had to send out my HTC 10 at one point because the lock/power button became really hard to press. Came back around two weeks later only to find that the camera lens wasn't lined up properly and so I was able to send it back again. Never had an issue at all either time.
janjan said:
Actually I had some issue with HTC customer service last year when I purchased my HTC 10. The charger stop working after 2 weeks and I mailed HTC service several times but they never answered me back. At the end I sold my HTC 10. But I am going to buy HTC U11 from a shop and not from any online store.
Consumer complaints about HTC..
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/htc.html
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That is atrocious experience (consumeraffairs). Same as Motorola. A 1000 loop post purchase service set in the parallel world run by asylum house. Reason is not valid there.
At this moment I have 2 weeks till my phone deliver but I seriously thinking of cancelling my order and sticking to my Pixel. NO I don't want to waste my life like those poor customers.
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That is atrocious experience (consumeraffairs). Same as Motorola. A 1000 loop post purchase service set in the parallel world run by asylum house. Reason is not valid there.
At this moment I have 2 weeks till my phone deliver but I seriously thinking of cancelling my order and sticking to my Pixel. F**k NO I don't want to waste my life like those poor customers.
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Go look up any OEM on there, no one has good reviews. It's a site for complaints so that is all you get complaints. Compare also to Samsung, Moto, LG on that website they are all bad.
You're far more likely to find bad experiences of any company posted online, because why would anyone feel the need to post good experiences? I had to send my LG G4 back due to bootloop and it was a 10 day turnaround and I was happy with it... however I've also seen horror stories about LG warranty repairs as well.
I reckon I could find dozens of bad experiences posted online for EVERY smartphone manufacturer (and probably every major manufacturer of goods as well). Does that mean I'll never buy a smartphone? Of course not! You can try to minimise the risk of getting a bad experience if you like, by doing tons of research about who has the best customer service, quickest repair turnaround, etc. but why waste your life like that? Even going with a company that seems like it has the best service won't GUARANTEE that you'll get that great service!
If you're really that worried about breaking your phone then get a tempered screen protector, a heavy duty case, spray-on grip for your hands and pray every day! ?
Agreed a bad/good experience can be had by most. I almost pre-ordered but didn't in the end. I feel HTC did a good job with the 11 like the 10 but it's a sold double not the home run. Personally I'm waiting on the OP5, mostly because of the dev support. If I had an unlimited phone budget I would certainly at least take it for a spin.
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Wow, I just googled for Apple warranty problems and can you believe that not everyone has had as good service as you? You probably can't believe it as you don't want to take the point that myself and others are trying to make - that your hours and hours of research on after sales care doesn't really mean that you'll definitely get great service every single time, whether it's Apple, HTC or any other manufacturer. But please, keep researching because I'll be enjoying my life in the meantime and being polite to people and respecting their opinions and experiences.
Oh, don't bother replying to me as you'll be wasting more of your time as I've unsubscribed to this thread now. Good luck with your search (and your people skills)!
@aknotts415 This was mine experience. Legit one. I would not bring this but people like you ask for it. Simply go there and compare.
LG vs HTC. I am providing you two links one for each.
LG total of 19 reviews score is 2.7 https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.htc.com ( Though there ara other threads that have Bootloop issue all over G4 Nexus 5x)
HTC total of 227 reviews score 2.0. https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.htc.com
Again I am seeking people who had direct experience like me. That would be much easier for me.
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Actually I had some issue with HTC customer service last year when I purchased my HTC 10. The charger stop working after 2 weeks and I mailed HTC service several times but they never answered me back. At the end I sold my HTC 10. But I am going to buy HTC U11 from a shop and not from any online store.
Consumer complaints about HTC..
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/htc.html
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How would that make a difference if you buy from an online shop? Though Iv;e red someone did that in order bypass direct contact with OEM.
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@aknotts415 This was mine experience. Legit one. I would not bring this but people like you ask for it. Simply go there and compare.
LG vs HTC. I am providing you two links one for each.
LG total of 19 reviews score is 2.7 https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.htc.com ( Though there ara other threads that have Bootloop issue all over G4 Nexus 5x)
HTC total of 227 reviews score 2.0. https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.htc.com
Again I am seeking people who had direct experience like me. That would be much easier for me.
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Just to compare
LG https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/lg_cell_phones.html
HTC
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/htc.html
Samsung
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/samsung_cell_phones.html
Apple
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/computers/apple_iphone.html
Sony
https://www.consumeraffairs.com/cell_phones/ericsson.htm
My point is they all rank bad on these complaint websites. People only go there to complain. U have every right from ur story to hate HTC and I'm not discrediting you it's just these websites are not realistic bases since there only for complaints
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Go look up any OEM on there, no one has good reviews. It's a site for complaints so that is all you get complaints. Compare also to Samsung, Moto, LG on that website they are all bad.
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Agree. Only people that have bad experience will complain, but people that had no issues or had positive experience with customer service of any given OEM, won't post their positive experience info.
@aknotts415 the sole reason I gave you my links to trustpilot is there you can right positive review too. Make your conclusions here. Forget consumer affairs.
It's all about personal feelings and experiences.
I have always had HTC never ever a problem with it what so ever.
Great camera is key for me so I went for the LG G4.... Three times for repair!! What a nightmare phone. Great pics though.
So i have to say never a LG for me. Glad the U11 has the best camera. And I can rely on the great quality of HTC again.
But always keep in my mind it's a tech product.
I've had nothing but superb customer service/repairs from HTC, they recently fixed my HTC10 and I had it back within the week, same with my M9 the year before.
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I've had nothing but superb customer service/repairs from HTC, they recently fixed my HTC10 and I had it back within the week, same with my M9 the year before.
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What fault did you have on the phone? Did the phone come back without any visible repair damage like body integrity ?
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What fault did you have on the phone? Did the phone come back without any visible repair damage like body integrity ?
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HTC M9 had small cracks on the corners of the screen bezel, and my 10 had a hot spot on the screen, both came back in the exact same condition only with the issues fixed completely.
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https://lifehacker.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-google-pixel-clas-1822843434
Looks like we might be entitled to a bit of money. The article says we don't have to do anything and will be contacted via mail. I'm not sure how "they" know all of our addresses though. It would be nice if there was a list to join for emailed updates and information. Please leave a comment if you have any further knowledge!
Article TLDR:
WHO?
"According to the filing, the case covers 'all individuals in the United States who purchased a Google Pixel or Pixel XL smartphone, other than for resale, between October 4, 2016 and the present.'" with the exception of "people directly connected to Google or the trial. That includes anyone working at Google, a Google subsidiary, or Google-affiliated company. It also rules out any judges assigned to the case, along with their immediate family."
WHEN?
"For now, there’s not much you need to do. Just by buying a Pixel phone you’re included in the class action lawsuit. Once a trial is approved you’ll probably receive a notice in the mail telling you how to actively join the case. It will also explain how to file a claim once the lawsuit is settled— assuming there’s some money to be had."
WHY?
Google’s Pixel and Pixel XL smartphones suffer from what the company called a “hairline crack in the solder connection on the audio codec.” In some cases, this made it extremely difficult to use the microphone, making phone calls and voice commands impossible.
The company says only 1% of Pixel phones included the defect, but the lawsuit notes that within just a few weeks of the device’s launch people were already reporting issues with the microphone. Instead of offering refunds, Google replaced some defective smartphones with new units that had the exact same issue. Even worse, the company never stopped selling the Pixel and Pixel XL despite mounting evidence that something was wrong.
I feel like I got ripped off by Google, and I'm not buying another, Lots of issues with this phone, and if you take a photo near the sun you get BIG round sun flairs.
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I feel like I got ripped off by Google, and I'm not buying another, Lots of issues with this phone, and if you take a photo near the sun you get BIG round sun flairs.
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That's also every phone and camera that isnt a dedicated camera that costs more than $1000. Do you feel ripped off with a dedicated camera that does this too? And I wouldnt say there were too many problems...some, sure, but enough to deter from buying another Google phone?
The price is more of a deterrent to buying another phone if you ask me.
Yeah I 2nd what @godfish said I bought an EOS Rebel and the damn thing won't make phone calls to save my life. I mean what the hell. But as far as my pixel XL goes, ever since I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed a new rom everyday I seem to have apks crashing, substratum themes that don't mesh well with some apps. Loss of root from twrp. Its all Google's fault. So I was thinking of getting the pixel XL 2. How's it's camera? Does it work under water ?
I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one. People are always trying to get a dollar. I won't be joining the class action deal.
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I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one. People are always trying to get a dollar. I won't be joining the class action deal.
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My wife had 4 pixels before we demanded a different phone (a galaxy s7) from Verizon. Insane.
Joshuaboyzn said:
My wife had 4 pixels before we demanded a different phone (a galaxy s7) from Verizon. Insane.
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Yes that's no good. I had the first gen pixels big and small, they had no issues, maybe I got lucky. Then I got the pixel xl2, it had touch screen issue and they replaced it.
My PXL is all good. Did get a P2 and P2XL and both were fault: P2 had speaker issues and the P2XL had the worst blueshift imaginable. Returned both for full refund including all shipping costs,no hassles and no questions.
Not sure this is worth a class-action lawsuit, but then again, I'm not in America. Good luck if you get something (as long as that doesn't then affect the rest of us... Y'know, higher prices, for example)
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I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one.
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I refused to RMA because what I get back would not be bootloader unlockable. I've basically been clearing my cache in TWRP every day since November because of the random reboot issue. Many have exchanged phones multiple times and still receive a refurbished device that does the same thing. Without an unlocked bootloader and TWRP, I'd be suffering the same fate as many who just have to watch their phone reboot repeatedly until it dies.
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Yeah I 2nd what @godfish said I bought an EOS Rebel and the damn thing won't make phone calls to save my life. I mean what the hell. But as far as my pixel XL goes, ever since I rooted and unlocked the bootloader and flashed a new rom everyday I seem to have apks crashing, substratum themes that don't mesh well with some apps. Loss of root from twrp. Its all Google's fault. So I was thinking of getting the pixel XL 2. How's it's camera? Does it work under water ?
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I snorted out loud. I almost spit water all over my bed.
If you read Google's own discussion groups, this is a huge problem and there is clearly a manufacturing defect with the motherboard. This problem only affects the XL, it seems.
I was running stock and mine died suddenly at the ripe old age of 16 months. I was lucky compared to many others!
I expect a $100 off brand phone to last longer than 16 months, but I don't expect an off brand company to do anything for me when it dies. Spending nearly $900 on what's marketed as the best piece of premium hardware is different though, but Google could only refer me to an aftermarket shop that wants to charge me $350 for a new motherboard... There's no way to just but the replacement part.
Ignoring the fact that I feel like the right thing for Google to do is extend coverage for manufacturing defects like this, wouldn't the $350 repair simply be replacing my old defective hardware with new defective hardware? If Google won't admit to a problem, it's pretty much impossible for them to assure us that the problem has been addressed and that we should have faith in the replacement parts.
I've never filed a warranty claim in my life and can't stand it when people RMA their devices at the 12 month mark just to get a newer phone or to fix a screen that got cracked when they threw the phone into the wall.
Some of you can laugh if you want, but it will become very much not funny in a few more weeks/months when your device inevitably dies from the same issue.
Unfortunately, you are not the only customer.
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I don't really get why there's got to be a class action lawsuit their exchange policy is awesome and easy to deal with. Had a problem with mine and it only took about a two-minute phone call before they sent me another one. People are always trying to get a dollar. I won't be joining the class action deal.
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I just wrapped up a six month battle to replace a Nexus 6P that had device protection. I was offered a replacement during that famous "2 minute phone call" (6 month after purchase). When I saw I needed to authorize about a GRAND for the replacement I offered to send the phone and wait it out while using my Nexus 5X. I was told quite quickly (despite being told I would have the defective phone replaced with a Pixel XL) "WE WILL SEND YOU WHAT YOU SEND US." me: but you guys just told me you are aware it has a battery issue: " WE WILL SEND YOU WHAT YOU SEND US". 6 months later -and involving the Better Business Bureau: 2 days after emailing BBB -I had the Pixel XL. After asking them for 6 months to honor original solution.
I know a good product when I see one; or at least I respect innovation.
I use their phones for the tower/switch software/set-up.
But, I highly advise to use their system; while not purchasing through them.
If it's in there best interest to resolve the situation quickly and effectively; they will.
If your idea of fair is not inline with them; you are bounced infinitely between dept. Until the BBB jumps in.
Y'all been warned.
Hopefully, they are working on this.
THX. no hard feelings. honestly my 100% experience...
oh well