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I just found another painful bug....this one is related to charging (battery). I normally put my qtek on charge all through the night when I go to bed. For the last 4-5 days I have been unplugging the device when it showed 100% charge, put it on standby (no wifi,btooth,gsm etc.) and made sure there were no applications running. I usually leave it in the standby state for 2 hours while I finish my morning exercise.
whenever I return, I see a power loss of 20%!! I was shocked to see how I could loose 20% in 2 hours ith my device on standby mode. this time, I even made sure I pressed the power button before I closed the lid, and still...no luck :-( I still lost 19%
I guess the problem is, when the charger is connected and the battery gets completely charged, it stops charging further. I guess it reaches a fully charged state within 2 hours, and the battery starts to drain all through the night...and wm5/htc don't start charging once again when the levels go down....i'll have to do a cuple more tests until I can totally confirm that this is the bug...until then, are anyone of you guys experiencing the same problems?
Another thing I forgot to mention, once again I charge my battery from 80% to 100%, and it lasts through the entire day(12 hrs) and drops to only 40% with highhh usage (bluetooth ON throughout, gsm on with 3hrs talktime, and some light gprs usage). so it really is not a problem of my battery as I see it!
Cheers,
San
Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
DaleReeck said:
Hmmm. I hate to say, but I don't see that problem. But I do have the unlocked JasJar Universal from HTC, not the qtek. If this happens with other qtecs, maybe they load a custom software that is acting up. In fact, I could leave the device on for two straight hours off a 100% charge and I don't think I'd lose 20% unless the phone was on too.
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have you tried charging your device for well over two hours before unplugging? (around 8-9 hours of charging for instance?)
I don't really think it has anything to do with the qtek rom/device. the qtek rom has the least ammt of customisations on it...
I still suspect that the charging process halts and it starts to drain the battery....but the os doesn't reinitiate the charging process once again....hmm
I'll have to wait till tomm before I can do another round of checking....tomm, I want to charge it....and before I unplug, I'd remove the battery and put it back and see what it indicates...I suspect that the power would have already dropped to ~80% by then...that's the only explanation I can think of at the moment....
San
Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
hdubli said:
Hi Dreamtheater!!!
I exactly follow you as far as charging is concerned and I hv a Jasjar....just to inform you...I started charging yesterday at 11.30 PM and just got up to see the charge..it is 100%...no power loss...
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it shows 100% for me too...but in just 2 hrs, it drops to 80% which is weird! from then on, it drains normally...
I still need some time to nail the exact cause for the problem...hmm!
S
Hey dreamtheater, I charge my Exec overnite everynite just like you. Usually at least 7 to 8 hrs everynite, but I have yet to experience what you mentioned here. My Exec always start fresh from 100% and by the time I get home at nite, it will drop to about 70% so no, I'm not getting the batt drain issue like you do..
I did not experience any such behaviour with my Qtek. It charged fine over night and had 100% battery when unpluged.
Are you sure your's does not wake up for some reason after you suspend it?
Dreamtheatre, I charged my XDA Exec overnight (7 hrs) and after 2 hrs with GSM/UMTS radio on the unit lost 5% battery charge.
@DT,
You need to set the device to switch off after a specified time interval. This can be done by going to start>settings>battery>advanced and check the device timeout box. I usually set it to 1 minute.
Last night i was browsing on my JJ and fell asleep while doing so, IE and notes and inbox applications were still open. When i started, the battery level was 93%, i browsed for about 10 minutes over Wifi before i fell asleep. The device shut itself off and when i woke up the battery level was 82% which is prportionate to my 10 min WiFi use and probably 1 minute standby time before it shut itself off.
Try it out, i'm sure you will stop seeing the massive battery drain
Cheers.
Another thing. Contraty to what people think, keeping the universal's battery topped off improves battery life. Prevent it from dropping all the way to say 30% or so. You will notice the difference in battery life in just about a week or so
Another source of battery drainage i've found is when i'm charging my Exec from the USB connection on my PC - If I leave my Exec connected and put my PC into standby, it will literally suck the life out of the battery over the course of a few hours!
I think some of you have got me wrong...let me restate the problem...
I charge all night
Wake up with 100% charge
Pull off the charger
Leave it on standby for ~2 hrs (no apps running, gsm, wifi, all off)
Come back, and find a ~20% drop
Back to my findings now.......
Another morning, no luck :-(
It had 100% charge...I pulled off the battery, put it back in and restarted....still showed 100%, so I guess it really was fully charged after all. This time I turned off receive incoming beams as well....left it for a couple hours, and was disappointed to see 82% when I got back :-(
However, through the day I get excellent battery life....all day's use ends up consuming roughly 30-40% charge which is excellent compared to my prev xda2 which would comparitively loose all of it by eod. I guess if I park my device in flight mode it tends to start draining quickly....now that's my only available reason or cause that I can think of....
tomm I guess I won't put the device on flight mode and leave it just On instead. This is weird because its just me having this problem :-(
San
PS: I'm using the regular ac charger itself for charging...hmm
DT, I disabled PowerSave and switched off the GSM/UMTS radio on my Exec. After about 8 hours I had lost about 30% charge. So your 20% does seem high. It could just be the battery as loss of charge is not linear. Why not let it drop to say 60% and then do your test again. By the way there spare batteries seem to be available now for the Universal.
I know there are already a lot of discussions on battery drain and believe me, I have read every single one of them. However, I think mine is slightly different:
When fully charged and using WIFI for 10 minutes, 10% of juice will be used. Listening to MP3 for 1 hour will also use another 10%. Overall, battery life is really bad but the key is it only happened suddenly. It have been very good up till now.
I have tested this on another battery and have exactly the same results so it is not battery related. I have also hard reset the phone and tested the battery with nothing installed and it still drains. A full charge only lasts me like 4 hour of very light use.
I installed Battlog and the power consumption is around 90 which I think is pretty low, but at times, even with this low consumption, I can see the battery usage literally falling before my eyes, like 5 % in 5 minutes.
I have also tried the HTC battery test, i.e. fully charged the battery, turned on plane mode and full brightness. After one hour, it only used 8% which I thought is normal. However, if I start using the phone by just simply clicking around, it will start dropping.
I believe the phone is fine on standby but once it starts doing things, even simple operations like moving around folders, it starts consuming a lot of power.
This all happens after an overnight charging episode when I noticed that the light stays amber in the morning and the percentage stays at 80%. I soft reset the phone and it immediately show 100%. This has never happen again but my battery usage is never normal since.
All in all, I think it is somehow hardware related, like the battery gauge is bad or the charging is never complete but it still shows green. It is still under warranty but I think will be very difficult to convince the service centre that there is something genuinely wrong with the phone.
P.S. Should also mentioned that I am using the stock telstra rom and have also cycled through the batteries twice before testing.
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
Fenixz said:
I had the same problem...
You should try resetting you battery:
1: let your battery drain to 0%
2: fully charge your battery while keeping your phone off!
this solved the problem for me..
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I had actually "reset" the battery but only drain it to 5% before recharging as I have read that it is not safe to drain to 0%. I'll try to completely drain it tonight and recharge. Will report back.
btw, I noticed that when the battery is charged to 100%, the led stays amber for about 15-20 minutes before turning green. Is this normal or should it turn green immediately after reaching 100%?
Tried completely draining the battery and charge overnight but have no effect. The problem persists. So this is definitely not a battery problem.
I guess the last thing I can try is charging the battery with a standalone charger or another HD to see if there is problem with the charging mechanism in my phone.
The latest Telstra rom seems a bit better on battery
led amber
The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
system .
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The led amber must turn to green
immediately after unplugging.
some thing is wrong with your charge
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aidinali, can you please explain what you mean? I thought the led will go off if you unplugged the charger. My problem is that after reaching 100% as indicated on the phone, the led stays amber for another 15 minutes before turning green.
Well , I'll correct & explain more....
1-when you reach %100 ,the led will turn to green immediately (if you’r phone is plugged in).
2-if you unplug ,the led will turn off (as you said ).
The problem is that since the battery meter in HD has not been defined by percentage , it doesn't match with
Apps like battery level or battlog .so when you see %100 on them , it' s not "real % 100 ".
I believe there is something wrong with the phone as the percentage usage and charging status do not match. However, since the basic HTC software does not have any battery usage in percentage, it’s hard to convince the service centre that something is wrong.
Any software that shows the battery as a percentage all have the same reading, so I assume they all rely on the mainboard for that information. There is obviously something wrong with either the charging process of the phone or draining more battery than it needs during usage.
I have 100% exactly the same problem as in the original post.
Does anyone else?
I have also tried 2 batteries and had exactly the same results with both, so I also know it is not the battery. The only app I have installed other than Dutty's 6.5 rom is Tomtom which does not need to be run for any of these issues to occur.
Any chance on warranty? I think it's software...
Try a different ROM. I've been having the same problem. I just flashed a new ROM about an hour ago (partly because Dutty's 6.5 kept freezing). I'm hoping both problems will be solved now.
i've found the latest radio rom to make a big different to battery life. 1.14.25.24_radio
the previous radio rom (1.13?) did suck the juice and made battery last 2 days less than 1.14
Try charging with a different charger. Ie. connect a USB cable on your PC and charge it from there.
I've had very similar problems with the stock charger a month after i got my TouchHD, and ended up testing with my old P4350 charger and all problems went away.
I've had similar drains even witch WiFi off, no emails, exchange or 3G access...
Now i'm getting a whole day's usage and i'm left with 30-40% battery, with 2 hours average talk time
I've tried with a number of chargers.....battery still sucks.
I've just switched from Dutty's to Energy ROM, radio is 1.14
If anything...energy drains more quickly than Dutty's
It says it drawing 350mA
Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Ok, I've used Energy ROM but now using Dutty's Leo. The only thing I've loaded so far is Battery Guard which say it's drawing 98mA when on standby(ie....backlight goes off). That'sa massive difference on the 250mA readings I used to get....now all I have todo is figure out which program I'm loading that is killing my battery.
That still only equates to 12 - 13 hours on a good standard battery with no use at all.
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
I had same problem when i flashed miri's rom, hd got warm and didn't last, it cooled down in standby, the answer to my problem was that the wifi was not set to save battery mode, once i set it to save power everything was ok
Used 8% in 24 hours
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Standard battery should last longer. Sounds like your battery may be slightly faulty. Make sure you let battery drain fully before charging, and always try charging with device off. Should help improve strength.
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Have been trying that for a month now....something seems to have suddenly worked It only used 8% of the battery in 24 hours! I live in the rainforest with no service so cellular was turned off...wifi on, but I only accessed it about 6 times......still,nothing has changed. The same conditions would leave me with a dead battery in 7 hours previously.
Time will tell if it keeps up this well.
By the way....Thanks
So basically you're saying people should drain down the battery to 1% or so and not to 0% (device dies when battery is out) to get a better battery strength?
Seems to be the general consensus. I'm still not sure if that's what made the difference for me but previously,I would put my device to standbye when I went to sleep at 10:30pm and it would be dead by 6am
Seems most of us have not noticed:
GB stops the charger supply on our SGS as soon as the battery is fully charged and then your phone uses BATTERY instead of charger to keep itself on!
If your phone has some apps running which drains the battery fast, your phone will drain the entire battery and will shut down when the battery is dead!
This is very dangerous for the battery to discharge every day because of this bug and Samsung and most of still haven't seems to notice this!
I have tested this several times now and downgrading the Froyo fixes the issue.
This issue occurs even when the phone is sitting idle with minimal battery drain for several hours connected with charger (in such situation the drain is minimal with few percentage like when you disconnect the charger.
Let me know if some of you have different experience as my phone definitely has this issue which doesn't exist if I downgrade to Froyo.
We all can check this behavior:
Charge the phone till it says 100% charged. Use the phone normally or heavily for several minutes (like web browsing). Keep it connected to charger while it says "Charged" 100% for a couple of hours (to ensure that you did not drain the battery beyond charger capacity). You would still get much lesser than 100% charge after removing the charger (try using battery indicator tools which tells exact %age of battery).
This bug exist on all the Gingerbread images I have tried including official and those based on JVP 2.3.4
Read below how lithium ion batteries work best if used around full charge (without over charging - Phone and Battery has protection circuit) during regular use:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Thanks to "$omator"
Use this software to test your battery: https://market.android.com/details?id=ccc71.bmw
Deeper than 10% charging and discharging cycles unnecessarily will significantly reduce the lifetime of the battery. Hence when phone is plugged, it should charge battery to 100% and power the phone through charger after stopping charging. Samsung usually stop charging around 96% of full capacity of battery to avoid over charging. After disconnecting the batteries once around 96% was achieved, it will restart the charging cycle around 95%. Hence all builds till Froyo reported close to 100% charge level and never less than 95% when disconnected from the charger.
GIST - Batteries should maintain floating charge voltage to avoid depletion and wear unnecessarily while connected to the charger after full charge and phone should run on Charger ONLY. Instead, Samsung goofed up Gingerbread drivers to switch off the charger and run the phone on batteries randomly draining the battery sometimes completely. GB OS thinks phone is running on charger and hence show 100% charge and RAPIDLY drains the battery till it goes dead when batteries go dead (randomly)!
Last screenshot is from Froyo. Attaching more on a later post on how stable it is in Froyo.
EDIT 1st July - More screenshots on how Froyo maintains stable voltage and do not consume battery power (current) in post #57: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=15228263&postcount=57
Screenshot #5 and #6 tells the DROP in battery voltage as soon as the charger is connected (200mV!) which speaks how much the GB OS consumes more when plugged in and STILL discharging!
Got the same problem with jpu. i didnt really realize this problem until this morning, just wondered why i had only about 90% battery in the morning after charging while with froyo i had about >95 in the morning.
today i slept until 10:00 and wow, battery was at 70(!) %.
when i plugged it in yesterday, ive got about 80% left (well, charging the phone every night seems to be a rite for me).
(and yes, im always listening to the sound when plugging the charger in).
so, as far as i can say, phone does not just stop charging at 100%, it also seems to consume much more power than it should. dangerous for battery, when the phone keeps plugged in for t >> t(100%).
This is a known issue of all current gingerbread builds. It will probably be fixed in due time.
and we wait for it
and we wait for it
Glad to hear it's a common issue. I was wondering if my batt/charger was faulty
Anyway, let's hope this gets fixed soon!
I noticed this the other day, hope it is fixed soon!
Yes, this has bugged me for the last month or more. Hence my question here about downgrading to 2.2.1...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1135297
A temporary workaround - turn the phone off. Plug the charger in, then power on. Doing it this way should keep the battery topped-up after it first hits 100% charge - at least it does for me(I think reliably, but I can't remember). But it's a nuisance - especially as I tether for my home internet these days. Machines updating the OS overnight have seen me unplug to have less than 60% charge despite it saying 100% before unplugging, which doesn't last the day.
Unimpressed with Gingerbread on the whole. And Samsung/Kies for not letting me downgrade if the latest update(s) aren't up to much.
Actually I'm running eclair today to compare the battery. Got sick of unplugging it in the morning only to have less than 70% charge.
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I don't appear to have this problem, I put my phone on charge last night at 23:30 as usual, the alarm went off at 07:30, then played a couple of tunes, phone showed 100%. Disconnected charger, went downstairs, checked xda for any news, saw this thread, checked my phone's battery level and it showed 98% after being disconnected from charger for 27 mins. Unless I'm using nav or maps my normal battery drain is 4% per hour in a reasonable signal strength area, so 98% after 30mins is normal for me.
For ref: Galaxy i9000, XEU UK unbranded on XXJVO via keis. no mods.
Thanks for posting this I used my phone's gps yesterday when driving and I only just stumbled across this when I got where I was going, phone still said battery at 100% whilst plugged in but as soon as I turned the engine off and killed the charger my phone died with a dead battery.
Somewhat annoying to say the least, I'm going back to a 2.2.1 Rom tonight I've had loads of problems with all the 2.3 Rom's I've tried mainly lag and battery drain. I never seem to have any free RAM on gingerbread, lucky to get 50Mb on boot
oh well rant over the world can now continue ;-)
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Actually I'm running eclair today to compare the battery. Got sick of unplugging it in the morning only to have less than 70% charge.
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Well, woke up this morning and unplugged phone. 1.5 hours later and it's on 95% still, with a little usage. Didn't see that on 2.3.4. Using jg4 fully stock, only rooted. I might stick jsd on it today and see how it goes tomorrow. Not many apps back on it though. Surprisingly the phone feels quite fast at the moment. Don't remember eclair being like this. Not seeing much difference between 2.3.4 and it currently.
As I use go launcher, having gingerbread is probably less important for me cause I kind of don't use many of the features of it (the launchers etc) anyway.
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I don't appear to have this problem, I put my phone on charge last night at 23:30 as usual, the alarm went off at 07:30, then played a couple of tunes, phone showed 100%. Disconnected charger, went downstairs, checked xda for any news, saw this thread, checked my phone's battery level and it showed 98% after being disconnected from charger for 27 mins. Unless I'm using nav or maps my normal battery drain is 4% per hour in a reasonable signal strength area, so 98% after 30mins is normal for me.
For ref: Galaxy i9000, XEU UK unbranded on XXJVO via keis. no mods.
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I would appreciate if you could test the issue by using the phone heavily after full charge by KEEPING THE CHARGER CONNECTED AFTER FULL CHARGE (preferably playing 3D games or running benchmarks) and disconnect the charger to check the battery level.
Seems most of us are unaware of this issue and some confuse this with the excess battery drain issue after DISCONNECTING the charger.
Thank goodness I found this thread. I had thought there was something wrong with my battery. After unplugging my battery would instantly drop from 100% to 96%, once even 87%. Thinking it was something to do with battery re calibration due to me flashing new roms, i wiped batt stats many times and went through of arduous process of draining and fully charging, but to no avail. Now I will rest easy despite still facing this bug. At least I know I'm not the only one.
yep...i just flashed a couple of days ago from stock 2.2 (KC1) via kies to 2.3.4 (JVP) using ODIN. I have had it charge fully and upon removal of the usb cable, it dropped from 100% to 98%. Since then, I have gone through one full discharge and the subsequent recharge to 100% dropped to 96% upon charger removal. I recall reading about this somewhere suggesting a recalibration was needed, but I was just trying to get it up to 100% and didn't have the time to search forums (i was using a portable usb charger). I disconnected the charger and after reconnection and display of 100%, it would then drop to 97% instead of 96%. A repeat proved fruitless and so I tried to charge it while off. Turning it on after a bit I found that it was brought up to 98%. Repeated process for 99% and FINALLY 100%. Though the final 100% was achieved after a few 100% while off and while on charges. It stayed at 100% for a bit over 30 mins. I will see how subsequent charges behave...
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Thank goodness I found this thread. I had thought there was something wrong with my battery. After unplugging my battery would instantly drop from 100% to 96%, once even 87%. Thinking it was something to do with battery re calibration due to me flashing new roms, i wiped batt stats many times and went through of arduous process of draining and fully charging, but to no avail. Now I will rest easy despite still facing this bug. At least I know I'm not the only one.
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This is a serious bug as it will significantly reduce the battery life due to repeated deeper charge and discharge cycle.
unless i've misunderstood, it seems to me that what will really affect battery life is the battery stats calibration. where it once would charge to 100%, it will now charge to, for example, 96%. Doing a calibration will make that 96% appear to the phone as 100%. From reading, it seems calibration is required for firmware flashes, so the more flashes and calibrations you do, the less battery life you will have since subsequent calibrations are done when the battery reading is less than 100 immediately after an unplug. Following the example above, the next flash could also have the same issue of displaying 100% and then 96% immediately after an unplug. The user would try to calibrate their battery yet again. Now this time, the 96% is of the previous full reading (which was actually 96% but appears as 100% b/c of calibration). So, the after a second calibration, the 100% reading is actually closer to 92.16% of the original pre-flash and pre-calibrated battery (96% of 96% of 100%).
hope that makes sense and someone can confirm, or instead (which i hope), prove me wrong as I would hate to think that what I stated is true since that will GREATLY diminish battery life artificially.
such overcharging (power off + connect charger and so on) is slowly killing battery
and it is not a bug that phone dsiconnects charger when it hits 100% and starts eating batt
anyways read my signature yellow part
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such overcharging (power off + connect charger and so on) is slowly killing battery
and it is not a bug that phone dsiconnects charger when it hits 100% and starts eating batt
anyways read my signature yellow part
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Yeah, but in pre-gingerbread roms the charging started again when below certain value, so it stayed above 90% all the time.
Now you can drain the battery heavily by using it while plugged (and the battery always shows 100%), then unplug and have it jump down to like 60%, or worse, turn off.
The only way to restart the charging is removing and connecting the charger again.
i tkink thyve must decided that such upcharging when almost full shortens battery life
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yep...i just flashed a couple of days ago from stock 2.2 (KC1) via kies to 2.3.4 (JVP) using ODIN. I have had it charge fully and upon removal of the usb cable, it dropped from 100% to 98%. Since then, I have gone through one full discharge and the subsequent recharge to 100% dropped to 96% upon charger removal. I recall reading about this somewhere suggesting a recalibration was needed, but I was just trying to get it up to 100% and didn't have the time to search forums (i was using a portable usb charger). I disconnected the charger and after reconnection and display of 100%, it would then drop to 97% instead of 96%. A repeat proved fruitless and so I tried to charge it while off. Turning it on after a bit I found that it was brought up to 98%. Repeated process for 99% and FINALLY 100%. Though the final 100% was achieved after a few 100% while off and while on charges. It stayed at 100% for a bit over 30 mins. I will see how subsequent charges behave...
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You are confusing recalibration and battery drain after full charge
The issue is after full charge, phone disconnects the charger and start draining batteries till it goes dead.
Let me rephrase the issue - batteries start draining immediately after full charge as the phone somehow start using battery INSTEAD of charger ONLY after full charge!
This is a serious bug as the GB drivers switch off the charger (instead of batteries) after full charge when the OPPOSITE has to happen!
I have this strange issue with the battery calibration.
At first i thought the battery was dying on me. It normally stay active to 35-44% and then the OS would just suddenly report the battery is dead and just turns off.
Then i just boot into TWRP recovery and leave the screen on. And it's able to stay on for another whole hour at maximum screen brightness till it actually dies.
I tried deleting the battery stats in the data folder and letting it drain to 0%. But the OS still thinks it's out of juice around 35-44%...despite the fact that it can stay on for another hour or so in TWRP recovery.
Is there anyway to adjust the capacity of the battery in the OS?
Hi,
When this happened to me (but with 20%), all I did was letting the battery drain and charge it fully while turned off. Don't know if it actually works, but it solved my issue. Give it a try .
Good luck,
~Lord
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Funny, I had just about the opposite problem. It was stuck at 35-45% while charging, or it would only go up about 1% every 20-30 minutes. Sloooowwww. Same solution seemed to fix it--let it drain to shut-down, recharge with power off to 100%. It seems to charge faster with power off, but I haven't done an a-b test to verify.
So I just started getting this after the update to 5.0 on my N10.
Beforehand I never noticed anything, although its been a few months since i have used it till a really low battery.
But I updated to 5.0. Used it for a while, the OS registered like 70% battery and then instantly 0% and it shut down. So I booted to the bootloader to see and it ran just fine for a while. I got bored and booted it back up, immediately shut down.
I plugged it in and booted it up and it was a 0% for a LONG time before it ever registered as actually charging. Then it charged normally until it got to like 25% and then instantly to 100%.
Im hoping its just a calibration thing, I did a factory reset just to be safe but it still did it. I guess the next steps if it still does it after a few cycles is to install a custom recovery and clear stats.
Same thing here
I've got almost the identical issue as the OP. Tablet shuts off without warning around 35-40% batter. When I reboot it says 0% battery and immediatley shuts down. If I boot into recovery mode though it will stay on for 2-3 hours before dying. I tried this and then charged it to full overnight with the device powered down and still today it shutdown again around 40% battery. Tried a battery calibration app before too but nothing has fixed it. This is 4.4.4 stock rooted with xposed. Been happening for about 2-3 weeks now. I'm pretty sure it's got to be software related right?? Anyone find a fix yet?
Just posting to say I'm seeing the exact same thing. It also just started happening since the update to Lollipop. It is shutting down at about 30-40%, then when I turn it back on it is at 0% and will shut down immediately unless it's plugged in. However, like the rest of you also said, in safe mode it'll stay on for a while longer without being plugged in. We really need a way to calibrate the battery somehow. This is a very frustrating problem. No warning at all!
I also have this problem.....this updates are so bugged.....
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I have the exact same issue
After a full charge it's saying I only have three hours left on the battery. Battery life is really poor. I'm not sure if the battery is worn out (I've had the tablet since it came out) or if it's from the update.
Same same.
Just had the same start yesterday. Was charged to 100% ran a high intenssity game for an hour (makes my cell phone heat up and kills the battery like mad) but it was NOT affecting the 100% charge. I thought 'thats funny' then it started to go down some then it hit about 55% then BAM. Drops to zero and shuts off.
After that it would not take a charge no matter what I did but then for no particular reason except I was lazy and didnt wanna have to boot it up again after I plugged it in, I left it plugged in and went to take a nap. Came back an hour later and it had charged to 43% after having been at zero for about 20 minutes after I left the room.
Now its stuck at 43% and wont charge any higher. I'm leaving it alone for a few hours to see if it will ever get to 100% then ill run it down to zero then charge it over night turned off to 100%.
Ive been reading this as a battery calibration problem and came across a HUGE variance on the net about what to do about 'that'.
Some say the charge to 100% drop to 0% charge to 100% will calibrate it. Some say thats old Ni-Cad tech and you shouldnt do that with the Lithium Ions. But then others say you should do it with the Nexus 10 because it DOES calibrate the battery and that the tablet software protects the battery from actually going to zero%. (Saves a few percent and shuts off).
But then also someone else said battery calibration only works via a hardware change inside the tablet and that we are actually talking about conditioning. But then someone said conditioning is the max storage and that the 40% to 0% drop is not conditioning and since the charge discharge charge is for conditioning a Ni-Cad it wont help. Around we go.
There was also mention of a samsung PHONE having a problem with a bent usb pin inside the phone. But you had to pop the battery to bend the pin and since you cant do that a on Nexus 10 that doesnt help. (Plus the pin doesnt look bent to me even though about 30 people chimed in saying it helped them. But that was all phones.)
And finally. One website says you have to root the nexus 10 and use a batter calibratino app to calibrate it as option a but option b was some crazy combination of charge to 100 discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge till your aunts pink underwear falls off or something equally strange.
I'm betting based on you guys os upgrade bug. Just too strange. My 2 year warrenty ran out last month but I hadnt turned it on in six. Maybe thats a good thing. Be stupid to send it in for repair only to find out it was software.
Have to see if after my full cycle charge-discharge-charge it works again.
Prayin for everyone's devices. This sucks.
Misery loves company...
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Just had the same start yesterday. Was charged to 100% ran a high intenssity game for an hour (makes my cell phone heat up and kills the battery like mad) but it was NOT affecting the 100% charge. I thought 'thats funny' then it started to go down some then it hit about 55% then BAM. Drops to zero and shuts off.
After that it would not take a charge no matter what I did but then for no particular reason except I was lazy and didnt wanna have to boot it up again after I plugged it in, I left it plugged in and went to take a nap. Came back an hour later and it had charged to 43% after having been at zero for about 20 minutes after I left the room.
Now its stuck at 43% and wont charge any higher. I'm leaving it alone for a few hours to see if it will ever get to 100% then ill run it down to zero then charge it over night turned off to 100%.
Ive been reading this as a battery calibration problem and came across a HUGE variance on the net about what to do about 'that'.
Some say the charge to 100% drop to 0% charge to 100% will calibrate it. Some say thats old Ni-Cad tech and you shouldnt do that with the Lithium Ions. But then others say you should do it with the Nexus 10 because it DOES calibrate the battery and that the tablet software protects the battery from actually going to zero%. (Saves a few percent and shuts off).
But then also someone else said battery calibration only works via a hardware change inside the tablet and that we are actually talking about conditioning. But then someone said conditioning is the max storage and that the 40% to 0% drop is not conditioning and since the charge discharge charge is for conditioning a Ni-Cad it wont help. Around we go.
There was also mention of a samsung PHONE having a problem with a bent usb pin inside the phone. But you had to pop the battery to bend the pin and since you cant do that a on Nexus 10 that doesnt help. (Plus the pin doesnt look bent to me even though about 30 people chimed in saying it helped them. But that was all phones.)
And finally. One website says you have to root the nexus 10 and use a batter calibratino app to calibrate it as option a but option b was some crazy combination of charge to 100 discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge for an hour, charge to 100, discharge till your aunts pink underwear falls off or something equally strange.
I'm betting based on you guys os upgrade bug. Just too strange. My 2 year warrenty ran out last month but I hadnt turned it on in six. Maybe thats a good thing. Be stupid to send it in for repair only to find out it was software.
Have to see if after my full cycle charge-discharge-charge it works again.
Prayin for everyone's devices. This sucks.
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Suffice it to say I've been seeing this issue as of Android 4.4.4... NONE of the posted recalibration techniques seem to work and as usual, Google non-support is just as useless. As far as I can tell, once in this state it's here to stay... I've had my N10 shut down at 28%, 37%... even as high as 55%, and on re-charge (if I do it turned on) it charges to a point and then shoots straight up to 100%. I've seen the "takes forever to get above 0%" issue too... none of this has happened in any consistent fashion. I had hoped that friggin lollipop would solve this but instead they added a host of OTHER annoying bugs: as in after I restart it, the tablet goes into an optimization mode where it decides it has to re-optimize all 362 apps I have on the wretched thing. There naturally are a few others but they are beyond the mainstream of this evening's symposium....
Same exact thing is happening to me, but I'm on 4.4.
Same issue for me toosince 5.0 (now 5.1.1 BlissPop)
I'm gonna try to see if after my full cycle charge/discharge/charge it will work again...
Same issue for me too, since 5.0
Same issue for me too, since 5.0
to all of you how had had battery charging problems, please advise y you have used the "magenetic" charging cable. (It charge to a 25% higer rate)
I don't know how... I don't know why... After nearly 10 months of this behavior... I recently went through a couple of charge cycles (after it dropped to zero yet again) without letting it drop to zero.. AND NOW IT'S FINE!!!! I have no clue why... None of the stupid on-line non root solutions worked... I think that it's possible for this thing to recover after a random sequence of events which unfortunately cannot quantify because I had pretty much given up.
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I am getting the same experience as most of you. Tablet shuts off at around 45% saying there's zero battery left. I assumed it was the battery going bad.
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Well technically the battery starts going bad (yeah it's not supposed to... but nothing lasts forever) once you start running the discharge/charge cyle over and over again. To be sure my N10 is more than a few years old and while depending on use it can last a few days... it sure doesn't go quite as long as it did between charges as when it was brand-spanking-new. That said, and as said in my more recent post where I thought that the battery was borked, it now will last around two days with heavy use and about three with moderate use... and it now discharges appropriately to near zero warning me to connect the charger without just dying at 30-50 %... and the charge profile is a smooth curve from low to high with no sudden jog to 100% once the charge indication hits 60-65% like it did before. That would *seem* to indicate to me that this is far more a software issue than a battery one, and that purchasing a new battery may "fix" the problem but it won't FIX the problem! i.e. it'll only be a matter of time before it comes back. For all I know, some recent update to some google app took care of it...
After updating from CM11 to stock 5.1.1 I got the same problem. My N10 switch emmidiatly off at 70% battery. It was fine with CM11. Any news on this? Did a battery calibration, but this didn't helped.
I'm also getting this problem for the first time on the Temasek CM rom from 11/05/2015. It seems to have come up only since the 11/05 version.
Still no solution!?
I am having this issue (I think) since I received the update to Lollipop. So, basically it is a bit more than a year now. I was hoping a Marshmallow update would solve it, but: nope!
For installing Marshmallow I also did factory reset and all that stuff: it does not fix the problem...
I've owned my Note 4 since October 2014 and it's been working solidly since. Last Thursday, out of nowhere, I noticed that from a 14% charge, it suddenly dropped to 4%. I immediately scrambled for a charger and charged it back up to 100%. On Friday, I charged my battery normally again. Charging finished at 11 AM but the drain was abnormally high. My phone was warm to the touch and battery was dead in 4 hours. I was using the phone normally throughout that time, 4g on, location services/bt off, screen off for the most part. I ran OS monitor to see whether any app was locking up the CPU, but, as expected, the main CPU users were Android System and Android OS.
On Saturday, I charged the phone to full again, disconnected around 4 pm. Being that I was home, both wifi and 4g were off. Battery discharged normally, and was only down to 30% on Monday morning.
On Monday, I noticed that battery dropped from 21% straight to 11% straight to 4% in a few seconds. The drain from 4 to 3 to 2% was decent (few minutes of screen on time, on viber), then the phone shut off. I tried to charge the battery with the device powered off, but noticed that the phone simply stopped charging at 80%. I thought that was an abnormality. I tried wiping the system and app caches, but the problem persisted and drain still felt pretty fast. Tuesday night, the phone stopped charging at 91%, staying at the same level for 40 minutes before I gave up and unplugged.
My friend had purchased a fake OEM Note 4 battery and allowed me to try the drain/charge process using his battery to troubleshoot. When I first plugged his battery into my phone, the drain was high at about 1 percent per minute. When I tried to charge the battery, the charge level would not go beyond 90%. I switched on safe mode, but the battery did not charge any further either. I felt by then that something was definitely wrong with my phone. When I restarted the phone to get out of safe mode, though, it suddenly started charging again and hit 100%. With regular use, the fake battery gave me 16 hours of power, which I thought was relatively decent. Alas, when I started charging it again, it stopped charging at 77%. Battery Monitor Widget showed 0 mA flowing into the phone at the time, though the battery indicator in the status bar showed the lightning bolt.
I took out the fake battery and put in my original. It is now charging up normally, but I expect charging to stop before I hit 100%.
If anyone could provide possible explanations for what could be going on and/or other troubleshooting tips to try, I would really appreciate it. A factory reset would be my last recourse.
Thank you very much!
EDIT: My battery went all the way up to 100% this time. But it's the same one that got stuck (at 80% then at 91%) twice in the past.
I'm using two different Samsung chargers and different cords, by the way, and blew out the port with air prior to attempting to charge the fake battery that still stopped at 77%.
I had the same issue, took it to Samsung and they replaced the battery, it has been okay since that
tigsandmitch said:
I had the same issue, took it to Samsung and they replaced the battery, it has been okay since that
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Really? I was ready to write off my battery and just buy a replacement, but what was weird was that even the newish fake battery wouldn't charge fully. That's what made me worried that it's my phone that's the problem.
It'd be great if this could be as simple as a battery problem.