Hi All,
I am using Samsung Galaxy Note 3. I bought MHL 2.0 and OTG cables.
Both are working fine, if it is used separately.
Meaning, connecting MHL cable to T.V's HDMI for watching movies, videos in bigger screen is superb.
Similiarly, connecting OTG for external thumb drive, keyboard and mouse are nice feature.
I want to use both MHL and OTG cable (wireless keyboard / mouse USB dongle connected to OTG), so that I can watch it in TV and also use mouse and keyboard. I have tried the below options:
Option1:
Connected MHL to TV and Note 3. In MHL we have micro USB for power but for Note 3, MHL don't need the separate power supply and so I have tried connecting OTG to the MHL power, but it is not detected
Option 2:
I have googled and came to know Samsung Smart Hub Dock, but it says not compatiable for Note 3 and S5
Option 3:
Googled more and got this "VicTsing® Multi-functional 3 in 1 Connection Kit USB OTG" but unfortunately this also mentioned not supported to use both MHL and OTG at the same time.
Week back only I have bought new wireless keyboard and mouse for $90 and don't want to spend again in buying bluetooth keyboard and mouse which would cost (more than $150)
Any suggestions on how to connect MHL (for HDMI) and OTG(for connecting wireless keyboard/mouse) at the same time
I can offer you some work arounds. I personally use BT mouse and keyboard. (BTW a kind of stupid oversight I use microsoft sculpt bt mouse that I remember specifically states on the box full android functionality not that I cared at the time, anyway when only the mouse is connected I cant get the on screen keyboard to work as if the mouse HID is recodnized as both)
there are more then a few software sollutions involving sharing HID via Wifi through your pc and router or computer to phone BT connection. or aby tablet as remote on screen HID but I think having a good cheap BT set near by is generally usefull for more then a few things so I do believe its worth the one time spending.
On another note I couldent figure out if Samsung has a Multimedia Dock Specifically for Note 3 since it would be more then ideal
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There is one that works
See this thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s3/accessories/mhl-usb-otg-t1741583/page22
SKU: 238273 on DealExtreme DX.com
That is the one I have and the same one "brb8two" mentions in comment #217.
It works perfect with my S4 and also works with my Wireless Xbox receiver, but it is MHL 1.0 which I believe is NOT a full 60frames or whatever, so it may appear slightly laggy but not bad and definitley better than the Samsung hub option for $99.
If you come across one with MHL 2.0 please let me know. Haven't been able to find one yet.
Related
Just wondering what people have tried to connect to their SGS2s via OTG cables... I have tried the following:
Working:
Generic Logitech wireless mouse via USB wireless dongle
Logitech MX1000 wireless mouse via MX's docking station
Genius USB laser mouse
8GB micro SD card via USB adaptor
64GB SSD USB HDD via y-splitter for additional power
Wireless USB mini keyboard with touchpad (the touchpad worked perfectly & CTRL-ALT-DEL rebooted the phone!!!)
Not working:
Samsung ML-2240 laser printer (recognized but won't print)
Logitech STX webcam (unknown device)
Generic bluetooth USB dongle (unknown device)
87 views and no-one else plugging random USB **** into their phone? Just me then, lol.
i tried to plug in via usb:
generic usb mouse
many usb keys from 2 - 16gb
via bluetooth:
mouse
not working via usb:
generic keyboard
via hdmi and working:
lg lcd tv
projector philips
but via hdmi subtitles was not shown, only on phone
i will try printers today...
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Major_Sarcasm said:
Generic bluetooth USB dongle (unknown device)
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Would be kind of pointless anyway.
When my SGS2 and an OTG arrive, I will test some of my hardware(G15(gaming keyboard with lcd display), Razer Diamondback(mouse), Saitek Cyborg EVO(Joystick), HD2(Android phone) and if I ever have too much money and time, something like THIS and of course USB storage devices from 16MB-1,5TB etc. ) Will let you guys know how everything works.
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I will test some of my hardware(G15(gaming keyboard with lcd display
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I tried my Logitech G15 and didn't have much success. Connected directly, it's simply a high power USB device, and via a powered hub, it sometimes is detected, usually isn't (seems to depend in what order it's connected). Regardless, I haven't managed to make it function correctly.
On the other hand, my Logitech MX 518 mouse works great connected directly.
My Logitech Webcam 9000 Pro is detected (even directly), but is unrecognized.
I did some tests with the OTG.
Working:
All USB sticks I tested with.
Keychain Spycam. You can even charge it with the phone Only the webcame mode doesn't work
Some old Logitech wireless notebook mouse
Standard Logitech mouse (one that came with a pc)
Not working:
NTFS drive(Haven't tried the NTFS drivers)
HTC HD2-ADB: High power device. Can't test with powered HUB, because the only one I have is the one in my pc display and that doesn't seem to work with my SGS2.
Razer Diamondback:High power device.
Logitech G15:High power device. (as reported above)
Saitek Cyborg Evo (Joystick):The LEDs in the joystick are working, but whatever I press, nothing happens on the device.
Cheap keyboard with backlight:High power device.
Edit: of courses wifi, Bluetooth and UMTS/HSDPA aren't working over otg either xD
Will update when I try more devices
Has anyone tried if it works with a Logitech G700 ?
Do I need 2.3.4 for all this ? I've heard I do ..
I was wondering if a usb dvb-t tuner should work to watch tv( i didn't try).
Hope someone will test it
Connected my digital camera Sony CyberShot DSC-W300 with USB and a new folder appeared in the Gallery app with all the pictures, impressed.
Didn't work with a Canon G5.
I tried a generic USB mouse and keyboard, several flash drives and my wireless mini-keyboard/mouse-combo via USB dongle
Everything worked
Dr.Sid said:
Do I need 2.3.4 for all this ? I've heard I do ..
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Nope, works on 2.3.3 as well.
Samsung implemented the host stuff from the start on.
Just wondering which OTG cables you guys are using. Also are there externally powered versions available (to power devices with higher requirements)?
I use a cheap 9 bucks one from the ew-Bay.
One day I left the wireless dongle for my minikeyboard/-mouse thing connected - phone was in standby all day, but battery was dead empty after a few hours *lol*
Xbox 360 wired controller : recognized as unknown device, lovely it looks it's NOT a power eating controller ! Lights turn on ok
Apple iPad 1G : could work great (device well mounting at first) but it's recognized as high power device, so... Not working.
Sony PSP : Works perfect
Another android phone (Xperia x10i) : guest detects well USB connection, it charges battery (!) and USB mount works. However, host doesn't detect anything.
I tryied my usb 3 drive formated with ntfs and it worked,:good: played mkv video nice and smooth.
As for the cable I bought it on ebay just standard otg cable
I tried Logitech M310 mouse and K360 keyboard both worked.
Can't find any OTG cable in my area :/ and Ebay is not supported in PK yet
ii7Stryker said:
Can't find any OTG cable in my area :/ and Ebay is not supported in PK yet
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Try dealextreme - free shipping worldwide. I bought OTG for about two dollars.
Thanks for telling , I will order it from them .
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Thanks for telling , I will order it from them .
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I have this one from DealExtreme: Micro USB Male to USB Female OTG Cable for Samsung Galaxy S2/i9100/Nokia N8 + More
hi all what do i need to buy to use my note as a mini android pc, by this i mean connect it to my 46" 1080p tv and use my phone via a mouse and keyboard wireless, is it possible ?
if it is could someone please post me info to the items if need ie
keyboard / mouse / game pad / leads / anything else if need to do this setup
thankyou
Bluetooth mouse, keyboard and MHL HDMI adapter for the video.
will these work
Mini Wireless Bluetooth Keyboard with Mouse Control
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-Wire...rComponents_KeyboardsMice&hash=item1c17361145
MHL to HDMI (Micro USB)TV Adpator for HTC Sensation/EVO & Samsung Galaxy S2/TAB
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MHL-HDMI-..._MobilePhoneDataCables_JN&hash=item2316d2e42a
Both item will work on the Galaxy Note.
Only that you will need the HDMI connection wire for the TV and also the main charger for the phone. You can use the main charger that comes with the phone but need to purchase a HDMI wire.
The BlueTooth keyboard should work.
Another gadget that is really useful is the USB OTG wire. With this, one can use the phone as the "Host" and connect another device such as keyboard, mouse and external Thumb Drive or SD card to the phone. One can use the mouse, keyboard and also the external drive. You can transfer files from the external drive to the phone and vice versa without the need of a PC. Only problem is you will be using the phone's power as the port is not available for charging. Great for small job and file transfer when PC is not available.
So the Nexus 4 doesn't have USB OTG support. That sucks. I'm fairly certain the answer on the following question will be "no", but I've still got hope.
With SlimPort, you can connect your Nexus 4 to a HDMI monitor, similar to MHL. It also charges your device. In my amazing Dell ST2220T touch monitor (well, the touch isn't so amazing, but the screen quality is), there are four USB ports. When I connect my Nexus 4 to my monitor with SlimPort, would I be able to plug in a keyboard and mouse in the USB ports on my monitor?
If not, I could use bluetooth (if you can connect multiple devices at least, both mouse and keyboard) or use the touch functionality on my monitor, but I'm not sure that works because it's a seperate cable.
It would be really cool to use the N4 as a sort of mini computer. Like Ubuntu had in mind. I can connect it to my speakers, to my monitor, I'm only hoping that I won't have to buy bluetooth accessoires. I prefer to use my wired accessoires, or if that isn't possible the touch functionality of my monitor, but I'm fairly both won't be possible.
the usb on your monitor would have a upstream connector that goes into your pc, so it won't work with phone,
you have to use bluetooth keyboard and mouse
republicano said:
the usb on your monitor would have a upstream connector that goes into your pc, so it won't work with phone,
you have to use bluetooth keyboard and mouse
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So even if the N4 had USB Host support, I still wouldn't be able to use a wired keyboard and mouse together with the SlimPort, right? I doubt there's some adapter that can do both.
The slimport controller acts as a switch, it either routes usb or displayport signals though the data pins, the usb lanes are not connected while it's in use.
While displayport does contain aux pins for handling additional stuff such as usb (hypothetically?), those pins do not exist in our setup.
The smart dock works with HDMI and USB - OTG simultaneously.
Anyone know of a cheaper alternative to use the Galasy S4 as a desktop pc.(HDMI and OTG together)
I need to be able to connect the HDMI to a monitor and simultaneously use the OTG to work with a usb keyboard and usb mouse.
I know that bluetooth keyboards and mouse[mice ?] work with a mhl adapter but i am specifically looking for an option that supports
HDMI out and USB mouse/keyboard.
Any help/links etc to products on the net would be appreciated !!
eg:
nexus device showing such a configuration : (but with bluetooth keyboard and mouse)
Greetings,
How can I get simultaneous use of OTG and mhl to work on my S5? SM-G900I
Thanks!
I have the Samsung Smart Dock, which provides that and works with the Note 4 (and some earlier Notes and Galaxy S). The water resistant port cover stops me from trying it with the S5 though, and I don't want to take that off right now. Unfortunately it's not easy to get an extension cable to try it either, due to the custom pin layout used for MHL on the S3 onwards.
@arghness thanks for the input - I found conflicting feedback saying it doesn't work with the S5. what is the model number for the smart dock you have? I'd really appreciate if you could give it a go
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galaxy-Smart-Multimedia-Active/dp/B009QW3TBK#Ask
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones-accessories/EDD-S20JWEGSTA
Samsung Smart Dock EDD-S20JWE, EDD-S20KWK, EDD-S20JWEGSTA, EDD-S20EWEG, EDD-S20EWE,
There are quite a few model number associated with this dock
Compatible with the Galaxy Note II, Galaxy S4, and Galaxy Mega (Not compatible with Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S 5)
Ah, okay. There are definitely posts (and videos) of it working with a Note 4 and I've actually had mine working with a Note 3.
On my S5, I can't even get the dock far enough in to the port for charging, due to the port protecting flap. Even without that, it might be an issue because the port is recessed in to the body so that the flap is flush with the outside of the case.
I still get the feeling that all the support is still there, if we could get a working extension cable. There's this: http://www.usbfirewire.com/Parts/rr-mhl-ext-xxg.html but I've heard that it doesn't even work properly with Note 2 (from an XDA post).
You're probably out of luck, sorry. I was hoping to be able to get it working as well.
hmm..okay, i've bought the smart dock, will give it a go when it arrives
jazzaddict said:
hmm..okay, i've bought the smart dock, will give it a go when it arrives
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Any updates?
derekb123 said:
Any updates?
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With further research
It looks like the S5 does not support simultaneous use of OTG and MHL as samsung implemented a 5-pin mini usb connector. Unlike the S 3/4 and note 2/3/4 where 11-pins mini usb connector enable simultaneous use of OTG and MHL. I don't understand why Samsung downgraded the S5.
More details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile...-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_and_tip_.28eleven-pin.29
jazzaddict said:
With further research
It looks like the S5 does not support simultaneous use of OTG and MHL as samsung implemented a 5-pin mini usb connector. Unlike the S 3/4 and note 2/3/4 where 11-pins mini usb connector enable simultaneous use of OTG and MHL. I don't understand why Samsung downgraded the S5.
More details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile...-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_and_tip_.28eleven-pin.29
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So there's really no way to unlock this phone with broken screen then right?
derekb123 said:
So there's really no way to unlock this phone with broken screen then right?
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I don't think it is possible
More info here:
http://www.galaxymhl.com/
Samsung probably downgrade S5 to a standard 5-pin micro usb connector to ensure broad compatibility with mhl adapater - this also prevented simultaneous use of OTG and mhl since in a 5 pins usb connector the same signalling wires are use for both mhl and usb-otg.
the S5 implement micro usb 3.0, I'm wondering if there is any adapter out there that can convert this into a 11-pin micro usb 2.0 connector??
jazzaddict said:
With further research
It looks like the S5 does not support simultaneous use of OTG and MHL as samsung implemented a 5-pin mini usb connector. Unlike the S 3/4 and note 2/3/4 where 11-pins mini usb connector enable simultaneous use of OTG and MHL. I don't understand why Samsung downgraded the S5.
More details:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile...-USB-to-HDMI_adapter_and_tip_.28eleven-pin.29
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That post doesn't say that MHL/OTG isn't possible with the S5, it doesn't mention the S5 at all. The pages I've seen seem to indicate that it's still 11 pin:
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s5+11+pin&oq=s5+11+pin
And other pages indicate that it can do MHL and have power, but that power is optional, unlike the S3:
http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/02/05/mhl-adapter-samsung-galaxy-need/
They don't say whether OTG can be done concurrently, though, but I don't see why not.
I have a "11pin mhl v1.0 to hdmi adapter cable" that works fine with mirroring my S5 (SM-G900I lollipop) to an HDMI Display (Monitor or TV). The cable doesn't have usb input to test otg at the same time though. This cable also charges my S5 while mirroring.
I am interested in using my S5 as a desktop pc so would like to know if any one has had success with mirroring thier S5 on a TV/Monitor and using a Mouse & Keyboard at the same time!!!
TIA
any updates? Have someone found an adapter that does mhl and otg at the same time.... I have tried one adapter that does not work and asks several sellers on ebay about other adapters and all said either they don't know or it does not work simultaneously....
No adapter but you can use samsung sidesync between phone and pc.
sidesync? I want to convert my phone into a desktop/tv box and I don't want to use bluetooth
sidesync converts your phone in to an android pc using your pc's monitor,mouse,keyboard through usb cable or wifi. Your phone will display on the monitor like screen mirroring and you use your pc's mouse and keyboard to navigate and type.
sidesync wont work with tv because you need to install sidesync on pc.
ah ok thx interesting but it defeats the purpose of autonomy