Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?
Dallenn said:
Hey there, i have my phone rooted, i have installed the OTA update, and i have slowly removed some bloat through titanium backup.
i am still experiencing quite a bit of lag, and want to factory reset my phone, then see if that helps. i want all my data to stay though, can i just back it all up through keis? or is there an easier way?
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I personally use Titanium Backup Pro (if you haven't bought Pro yet, it's totally worth it - it has saved my @$$ countless times!). I Haven't actually uninstalled any bloatware, but frozen plenty of it. This made it really, really easy to get the OTA installed - all I had to do was unfreeze the 3 magic APKs that let me install the OTA, and even kept the rest frozen. Re-froze when done with OTA.
I have two sets of Titanium Backup backups right now:
- A backup of all system apps plus data. I would never want to restore my system apps, unless I get bored and start modding stuff later. I figured I'd just snag a backup NOW in case it ever comes down to that - I'd be able to theoretically restore a single broken APK, or manually extract the apks out of the backup files later.
- A backup of all my user apps plus data. Be careful not to ever restore system app backups, even the "green" or "yellow" ones in TiBu. Rarely, you can get away with restoring these (like SMS, or WiFi access points, or sometimes even the System Settings), but it's usually asking for trouble. If you're going from the same ROM to the same ROM without any version change, it's usually "okay" to try. Otherwise, use extreme discretion and be prepared for weird behavior.
So to answer your question, I would recommend using Titanium Backup Pro to keep data backed up. If you're thorough and have the patience, you can effectively backup all of your data, individually, for all of your apps and your system settings. I'm actually planning on doing a data wipe for good measure (haven't done so yet since I got the OTA), and this is how I plan to restore all my data and settings.
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
Don't worry, this is what I did all is fine.
Before anything, make a backup of your internal SD (just in case), EFS backup and all apps with Titanium. Then in Phils recovery select option to erase everything for new ROM flashing. I also did manual wipe of cache & dalvik just in case. Don't worry, your internal card won't be touched, but always better safe than sorry. Then flash MJ5 kernel, and finaly flash your chosen ROM. Then you can restore apps from titanium. I had like 2 apps that didn't work at all after restore, probably incompatible with 4.3. The system is stable 100%. Never had a reboot.
Thank you Dalanik. This is very encouraging to know.
oren_b said:
I'm thinking about finally moving to 4.3 using a custom ROM (haven't decided which one yet). I have Titanium Backup Pro and plan to restore all my apps and settings after the upgrade. Is this process likely to end in a stable system? I don't have the time and patience to go through installing and configuring everything again, so if it's not a dependable process I might as well wait for the OTA update (and deal with Knox later...)
Thanks!
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Did you try it? How did it go?
I had faced a lot of issues when I did this recently. My contacts and message apps started to crash. Could have been OS problem no idea, but I was losing all my messages and my contacts. Ended up using super backup and import/export feature. Then on TB i restored only the apps and not the settings or system data. Now its perfectly stable, no crashes whatsoever
If you erase phone completely for flashing, contacts will be restored automaticaly from google contacts, but I'm afraid SMSes won't. That's another thing worth backing up. I used SMS BAckup and Restore, works perfectly, although you can also use Titanium as well.
Hey Guys,
I have a question.
i used to have the Galaxy Note 3 , rooted it and did alot with it. Now i have a Note 4 and i want to root it. But my problem is this :
When i am going to root it can i also update my firmware manually without making backup? cause i am gonna stay on Stock Touchwizz. I want to Root it and if For example Android 5.0 comes out i want to update it without losing data or without resetting the whole phone.
Cause without root you can just accept your update through OTA or through Kies without losing any data and you dont need to master reset the phone nor make any backup. I want this method rooted through ODIN also, and is it possible. Cause on my note 3 i always made a backup and than needed to flash the new firmware and than restore backup.
help me out with step by step method if it possible
I'm sorry, but otas aren't clean either my friend. Conuntless people experience weird battery drain, force closes etc following an ota.
With in days of the 5.0 update hitting note 4s, there will be hoards of people wanting too know how they can go back to 4.4.4... Mark my words.
The fact that it includes a move from dalvik to art is only going to make the whole process more troublesome than it usually is.
Just individually back up your data through the specific apps if they have the capability, and uses sms and call back up apps if you really need to keep that stuff too, and just clean install yourself for the smother experience
dannstarr said:
I'm sorry, but otas aren't clean either my friend. Conuntless people experience weird battery drain, force closes etc following an ota.
With in days of the 5.0 update hitting note 4s, there will be hoards of people wanting too know how they can go back to 4.4.4... Mark my words.
The fact that it includes a move from dalvik to art is only going to make the whole process more troublesome than it usually is.
Just individually back up your data through the specific apps if they have the capability, and uses sms and call back up apps if you really need to keep that stuff too, and just clean install yourself for the smother experience
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Thanks for the tip that it will be dalvik to art.
didnt knew about that.
So lets say for example if a 4.4.5 comes out and i am rooted on 4.4.4 stock samsung, is it possible to download the stock 4.4.5 and flash it through Odin without losing data?
normally i used to make backups through Titanium and restore it. But i am bit tired of flashing a new stock and than restore backup.
InVez said:
Hey Guys,
I have a question.
i used to have the Galaxy Note 3 , rooted it and did alot with it. Now i have a Note 4 and i want to root it. But my problem is this :
When i am going to root it can i also update my firmware manually without making backup? cause i am gonna stay on Stock Touchwizz. I want to Root it and if For example Android 5.0 comes out i want to update it without losing data or without resetting the whole phone.
Cause without root you can just accept your update through OTA or through Kies without losing any data and you dont need to master reset the phone nor make any backup. I want this method rooted through ODIN also, and is it possible. Cause on my note 3 i always made a backup and than needed to flash the new firmware and than restore backup.
help me out with step by step method if it possible
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If you root you still can upgrade your note to android 5.0 via odin but it will not eraser your data, only lost root acces. I have try in my tab long time ago , the day honeycomb upgrade to ics so you dont have to worry
Cheer.
Tl;dr version: The big question in my mind is: If I backup and app and its data from Lollipop, when I restore it to KitKat will it work fine?
The full story:
My wife's Nexus 7 got the Lollipop OTA a little while back and has been having a terrible time with the lag, etc. We've done all the suggested fixes short of doing a factory reset, which I want to try but have a problem to overcome....
My wife has a game which she has played for many many months which doesn't sync game progress to the cloud anywhere... Her sisters are quite competitive and constantly compare their each other's progress in this game.
She is having a miserable time with the Lollipop update, but wants this game data SO BAD that she is willing to suffer through the lag to keep it... but its driving me nuts...
I have a plan to move forward, but want to see if I can get some confirmation that my plan *should* work. I unlocked the bootloader on it in the past. it has since lost root, but I should be able to get it rooted again without hassle and without wiping data (correct?).
Plan A - Factory Reset Lollipop:
I should then be able to use either Titanium Backup or maybe Helium to back up that app's data. In fact, I may skip rooting and just use Helium with the desktop companion app. Then pull those backups to the cloud or onto the pc. Then do a factory reset on the device. Push back over the app's data backup then restore it. Does that plan seem correct? I've done similar in the past so I don't think I'll run into issues.
Plan B - Revert back to KitKat:
This is my secondary plan, and the one I have the most questions about...
After doing the above, if the tablet is still laggy, I'd like to revert it back to a factory image for KitKat since she was fine with that version until they release some bug fixes, etc. for lollipop. If I backup and app and its data from Lollipop, when I restore it to KitKat will it work fine? My concern is the difference between ART and Dalvik, etc. etc. I've seen a few places that talk about using backups when moving 'forward', but can't find a good answer on moving 'backward'.
Thanks,
Zeustopher
I installed Lollipop 5.0 with Odin and had no problems with the process. However, WiFi no longer starts up. That is, I can't turn WiFi on from Settings or anywhere else. What's really strange, though, is I can create a FoxFi hotspot and it works as expected, supporting a Nexus 7 WiFi-only tablet.
How do I revive WiFi support?
Did you factory reset after updating to LP ?
Always a good idea
I'd really rather not. The recovery process from an FDR is never fun.
What puzzles me is that FoxFi works. Thinking it might be a backdoor, I started FoxFi then tried to start WiFi. I got the expected "you can't have FoxFi and WiFi" message. I said OK, FoxFi shut down and... no WiFi. V. Weird.
I know it's a PITA to reset, but upgrading from KK to LP leaves rubbish files behind that cause all sorts of weird bugs, I had to reset when I upgraded thanks to battery drain, after the reset, battery drain was cured, and all LP updates since then have not needed a reset, it is purely moving from an older Android version > Newer Android
Sigh... I soooooooo hate doing this. And, yes, I want crackers and cheese with that whine.
Stupid n00b question: Before I blow everything away with the FDR, what's the best way to preserve all of my photos, and other app data? FWIW, before I started this project, I used Titanium to back up everything it knows about, but IIRC it doesn't anything photos, music, etc., etc.
I suppose I can just do a drag and drop of the phone legacy "SD" and stuff it all back in again after the FDR. Or doesn't that fly?
RBEmerson said:
Sigh... I soooooooo hate doing this. And, yes, I want crackers and cheese with that whine.
Stupid n00b question: Before I blow everything away with the FDR, what's the best way to preserve all of my photos, and other app data? FWIW, before I started this project, I used Titanium to back up everything it knows about, but IIRC it doesn't anything photos, music, etc., etc.
I suppose I can just do a drag and drop of the phone legacy "SD" and stuff it all back in again after the FDR. Or doesn't that fly?
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If you were rooted, and had a custom recovery, you could use that to backup your DATA partition, and restore it later, but yea, definitely backup your photos and vids to PC before doing anything, apps and stuff can be reinstalled, not great losing photos
Titanium backup is great for apps and data, not sure about photos and other user files that I know of, it's been years since I used it last
This gets worse and worse. In hopes of reviving WiFi and root, I went back to 4.4.4. And soft-bricked the phone.
Reverting to 5.0 undid the soft bricking but now I'm back to no WiFi.
At the moment, since I now have access to the data, photos, etc., I'm moving all of them out of harm's way. From there I guess I'm condemned to doing a FDR, installing 4.4.4, rooting, and trying to retain root as I go into 5.0. Damn VZW for making this so hard. [/Snarl]
Mostly out of desperation, I tried going back to 4.4.2 (NCG, not NE9), where the phone was when I started. Once again the phone is soft-bricked. What is going on here??? I'm using the files from Sammobile (forked over €7.50 to get things done somewhat faster...).
Under 5.0, at least I can read much of what I need to save, but things like wpa_supplicant.conf are closed to me because of I can't root the S5 under 5.0. Or can I?? If so, I'd be home free. D/l all the files I want to preserve, do an FDR, use Ti or Helium (I'm trying both) to restore much of the stuff lost in an FDR, and move forward from there.
Yea you can root lollipop with CF Auto Root, but it will trip KNOX
This project is driving me insane!
KitKat soft-bricks the phone, making any backup impossible, making rooting impossible, all under 4.n.n. 5.0 almost works except for the Settings flavor of WiFI (FoxFi works as expected, trying to revert to "normal" WiFi from FoxFi doesn't work).
Rooting under 5.0 will trip Knox. Maybe I'm being silly about that, but I'd like avoid that. I've had the phone about a year, so maybe I should just build a bridge, etc.
Meanwhile, in trying to set up to FDR, I went to Helium (Carbon as was) Pro to put the backup in Google Drive. Why? Because any internal backup ground to a halt at Titanium (37 of 87 backed up by Helium's accounting). Thinking I was hitting a space issue (not enough room for a full internally stored backup), I moved to Pro to store the backup off the machine (whyinhell doesn't Helium let you use the PC needed to enable Helium in the first place???). And that backup also ground to a halt at Ti. ARGH!!!!
OK, I fixed the Helium issue. For some reason, Helium refuses to backup Titanium. Is this hating because clockmod doesn't like Ti or is this one of life's very weird coincidences? Either way, I have 85 of 87 possible apps covered. The rest I can revive some other way without too much pain.
So I guess an FDR is coming soon...
I spoke too soon. Since I tinkered around a bit with trying to see if Helium keeps multiple date and time stamped backups (it doesn't! what's up with that??) I decided to do another full backup (less Ti, of course). and the backup ground to a halt at item 37 of 85 items. Yes, item 37, whatever it is, is a toxic item. What a crock! Worse, I'm out of the refund period for Pro. Dis sux.
OK, the FDR woke up WiFi and left me in 5.0. Now to try to regress to NCG...
I think this ends the thread. I got 5.0 running with WiFi but no root - FDR did the trick. I used Odin to put in 4.4.2 NCG and seemed to be soft-bricked. I used the bootloader(?) to do an FDR on the 4.4.2 install and that cleared up the soft-brick. 4.4.2 is now rooted with towelroot. If I have things right, I can get from a rooted 4.4.n to 5.0 and keep root without changing 0x0. We'll see if that's true... Meanwhile, for this thread, I'm out.