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[Q] Evo and Metro- oil and water?

Hi there, new guy here. Last week I bought an evo from a guy and that same guy flashed over the evo to metro for me. So just like a lot of people here I am having some problems and I'm also looking for some advice.
First of all I don't know what rom he used... I know that I have superuser on the phone. The version of phone I have I believe I have is 2.2 (?)
Is superuser a flash, root, or rom? How would I find out which root I have? He didn't mention it to me. All he said was don't download any apps that require "superuser permissions"
Here is what is working-sms, youtube app, wifi, internet w/ and w/o wifi, market, email, gmail and yahoo, receive photos
And here is what is not - voicemail notification, mms, can't send photos, gps forces the phone to reset many times, so navigator/ maps causes reset. Not to mention that the phone will reset several times throughout every other day. Also getting the data error.
Called the guy and he said that he would reflash the evo for free this time. He also suggested doing a factory reset, that might fix the constant resetting I am having. I read online that some task manager apps can cause the phone to reset when gps is on.
Any help in all of the above is appreciated. Should I have him reflash it? Should I attempt this myself? Not knowing what rom I have right now is the hardest part for me right now.
Again thanks for the help.

ROM info is in the settings/about phone/software
To factory reset: settings/sd & phone storage
Superuser just let you give an app permission to access root or block it.
I would do the factory reset if your having reboots. More ROM info would probably help us out with your problem.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=795182
Im not 100% sure of.metro.pcs hack or wtv that they do for the Evo but that rom.has everything working download the metrodroid (latest version ) , put it in your sd card , go to recovery mode and wipe , data, dalvik, cache (this will erase all your data ) and then go to.choose flash zip, look for the zip flash and hopefully the works, root ia only one it should be fully root to run it in metro pcs and I recommend you to read different topics about what root is, have fun
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phatmanxxl said:
ROM info is in the settings/about phone/software
To factory reset: settings/sd & phone storage
Superuser just let you give an app permission to access root or block it.
I would do the factory reset if your having reboots. More ROM info would probably help us out with your problem.
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ok thank you. I just did what you stated and found out that my rom is bugless beast to0Mod V0.1
Any other info is appreciated, I am thinking about installing the metrodroid rom like jgalan suggested however I am plum terrified about bricking my phone. As I have never done anything like this on a phone. Only xboxs etc.
Does anyone out there know about this romthat I have If it's truly V0.1 I'm assuming its hellllla old, but I dunno. Thanks again for all of the input.
One last question how full proof is the metrodroid rom? I was doing some reading about people still having issue with stuff that I already have working currently (sms, web etc). I just don't want to open another can of worms if I can avoid it. Thanks again.

[Q] Did I f* up my Play?

Hey guys. I hate making my first post a really noobie question but here it goes.
I just updated my rooted Xperia Play to 2.3.3 and it erased and/or re-wrote all of my system apps. I stupidly converted some of my downloaded apps into system apps using Titanium (because system apps turn red on the list. It helped me quickly figure out what was external and what was internal. Stupid, yes, and more trouble then it was actually worth.) so those apps were lost. Didn't matter, I had backups but I lost my root so I couldn't access them.
Forgetting what I used to root my phone originally I decided to use z4root after reading about it somewhere. The site I got it from is usually trust worthy but when I downloaded the file my OfficeScan (its a school bought computer) warned me of a potential virus threat. I wrote it off as just the pop-up ad and un-zipped and transferred the file to my phone. I still am not sure if it was a virus or not... Running z4root it got up to "acquiring shell root..." or something like that before kicking me back to the home screen with no change. I, again, stupidly, re-ran it several times without rebooting between each attempt. Giving up I then realized to reboot. Strangely rebooting was A LOT faster then it was usually is and I don't know if that was z4 or 2.3.3.
Anyway I remembered that I used Gingerbreak last time and re-installed that. I made several attempts with that with no change either. Too many to count, but at least more than 8. Several attempts I got a call or a text and, checking them, ended the process. 2 attempts I left running for about half an hour (I know that the instructions say it will never take more then 10 minutes) and some I ended with a battery pull after more then 10mins(as per instruction).
So I guess I have several questions:
1. How bad did I f* up, If I did so?
2. Any suggestions on how to re-root/fix it?
3. Will switching to an empty SD card, successfully rooting it, and switching back to the full card still keep the root?
4. Does an in phone factory reset work the same as flashing the same rom or will I need to actually flash that new rom?
5. If I do need to flash, where can I find a regular Play rom? Or do you have suggestions about a better rom?
6. Is the fast reboot the work of the half done, possibly a virus, z4root process or just the 2.3.3 update?
7.Lastly Was this tl and you ;dr?
Normally, I wouldn't care if there was no fix; My phone boots much faster, I didn't lose all my apps and only some apps launch a little slower then before. But I made tons of progress on Zenonia 2 and I want my back ups for that... lol.
Any help appreciated. Also thanks for putting up with a noob that's writing way to formally

1. Messing with the system apps, and not backing them up probably caused you to not have an OTA update. I'm guessing you flashed it? Not restoring anything and not doing an OTA was mistake number one. Trying to use z4root was mistake number 2.
2. Get the generic UK firmware from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1097591
-Flash that with Bin4ry and Androxhyde's flashtool
-Put in your carrier's APN settings, configure your google account, wifi etc. etc.
-Get Gingerbreak 1.2, run it(I used Astro to open the apk, and you need uunknown sources enabled).
Gingerbreak only worked for me when I formatted an SD card right before running it. I used a spare that was lying around, not the usual one with all my data, and I suggest you do the same if you kept your titanium backups. Hopefully you'll get rooted after about 3-5 minutes. Do not mess with any apps/bloatware after you have the root.
-After you have root, go into the settings menu and start an OTA update.
You should now have 2.3.3 WITH root.
-Once the phone is updated, install Titanium Backup and start backing up your old apps from before you messed up the phone and lost root.
-At this point feel free to remove the bloatware, but make sure you back it up in titanium for later.
3. Switching SD cards won't affect root at all.
4. A factory reset will reset whatever ROM was installed last. In other words, you can't revert back to 2.3.2 with a reset, it'll just reset 2.3.3 - It's really just for wiping data and settings.
5.The regular play ROM is the UK generic I posted above. The only "better" roms are customs that you need an unlocked bootloader to install. Currently they're still buggy and in development and not worth getting unless you like incomplete ROMs with bugs, and wanna lose the ability to update normally. Both OTA updates and the Sony Ericsson Update Service will brick your phone once the bootloader's unlocked.
6. My phone was booting a bit faster after updating to 2.3.3, and became even faster after removing some bloatware.
-Root doesn't speed up the boot process.
-I highly doubt an Android phone would have a virus that makes it boot faster, it's probably just from the update.
7. No, it wasn't. No, I didn't.

Thanks for the (semi-)quick response. Been browsing around the web with this tab open, constantly refreshing like a creep. I'll try your advice soon but its like 3am, just wanted to say thanks and love your Stocking pic.
Btw is there a difference between A US, UK or CAN rom or do those even exist?

The only real differences are carrier specific apps, and some versions have different games installed.
Sent from my R800

Seems like I was to late to flash and the link to the rom you gave me may have been updated to 2.3.3 as well. I was looking for a Canada/Rodgers rom anyway but the forum search isn't turning up anything and google seems to hate me...
Help anyone?

The link was for 2.3.2 in the generic.
The only rogers rom available is for 2.3.3 so you won't be getting root without an unlocked bootloader with that one.
Just follow the directions and it should be fine.
The rogers apps are available in the android market separately.
Sent from my R800

[Q] Encrypting a Galaxy Note 3

I have a new Galaxy Note 3 (having bricked one trying to understand why it wouldn't encrypt) and now with a full stock rom I still find that the phone is impossible to encrypt.
I have an encrypted SD card in it. (only thing I can think of that might be causing problems)..
Settings > General > Security > Encrypt Device keeps stopping after a single shutdown,
How the heck do I encrypt this thing?? - Am I missing the blindingly obvious..
Thanks

tahnoonp said:
I have a new Galaxy Note 3 (having bricked one trying to understand why it wouldn't encrypt) and now with a full stock rom I still find that the phone is impossible to encrypt.
I have an encrypted SD card in it. (only thing I can think of that might be causing problems)..
Settings > General > Security > Encrypt Device keeps stopping after a single shutdown,
How the heck do I encrypt this thing?? - Am I missing the blindingly obvious..
Thanks
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I'm having the exact same issue. Encryption is requited to get my work email and I can't get it to go.

Finally got mine to encrypt
Took me a bunch of tries.. and finally once i opened a chat with samsung support it finally worked.. i was at 100% charge, plugged into the wall and if finally worked. not sure if thats a bug in its detection if your over the stated 80% or not... good luck.. i finally got it working though.. only did a fast encryption as it didn't work on previous tries either way... so i just chose one and tried it again.

tahnoonp said:
I have a new Galaxy Note 3 (having bricked one trying to understand why it wouldn't encrypt) and now with a full stock rom I still find that the phone is impossible to encrypt.
I have an encrypted SD card in it. (only thing I can think of that might be causing problems)..
Settings > General > Security > Encrypt Device keeps stopping after a single shutdown,
How the heck do I encrypt this thing?? - Am I missing the blindingly obvious..
Thanks
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I have the Google Policy Manager and Encryption is required for me too. I started at 81% and the first time I did it, it just rebooted. The second time I did it it worked like it was suppose to. Try it again right after it reboots and see if it works.

Make sure the phone is charged and keep trying over and over.
It will work eventually.

I gave up. I'm using touchdown now for work email which will allow me to skip full device encryption
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Same problem here, it will not encrypt
....help please

This is the answer I found doing a couple of root and unroot
1.If you encrypt the device and then root it you will net get past the passcode in the phone (black screen)
2. If you root the phone first and ten try to encrypt you will get the problems mentioned in this thread
..any tips how to get the phone rooted and then encrypted?

greffel said:
This is the answer I found doing a couple of root and unroot
1.If you encrypt the device and then root it you will net get past the passcode in the phone (black screen)
2. If you root the phone first and ten try to encrypt you will get the problems mentioned in this thread
..any tips how to get the phone rooted and then encrypted?
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Bump. I'm looking for this answer too.

digittante said:
Bump. I'm looking for this answer too.
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anyone at all? im stuck. Bump!

was having a similar problem on nexus 4 but safe mode helped there.
dind't help on my new n3. shouldn't have rooted before encrypting.
tried pressing encrypt about 10 times.
tried boot into recovery + wipe . also tried safe mode. also tried unroot + factory reset (pretty sure recovery + wipe /data is the same as reset user data from settings).
waiting for the firmware image to download - decided to try a firmware reflash

and then before flashing it I tried rebooting to recovery and powering off and encrypting and it worked. or maybe it was that random 12th time it worked because of an unrelated reason.
and after trying to root it again it just booted to a black screen after cf-root and enter encryption password screen.
*sigh*

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svyr said:
and then before flashing it I tried rebooting to recovery and powering off and encrypting and it worked. or maybe it was that random 12th time it worked because of an unrelated reason.
and after trying to root it again it just booted to a black screen after cf-root and enter encryption password screen.
*sigh*
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I'm an AT&T customer, but I bought a T Mobile Note 3 off of Craigslist, unlocked it, rooted using Chainfire's ODIN thread, and then used the RegionFree Lock Away app. I was unable to encrypt just like you guys until I did the following. Flashed TWRP tar file from the TWRP site using ODIN. Rebooted into recovery and made an image, backup up everything, just in case. Rebooted and went in the SU Superuser application that Chainfire originally installed and uninstalled through the settings in the program. Once I rebooted I was able to encrypt the device (without fast method), I already had my SD Card encrypted. Once I encrypted the device I downloaded Kingo Root at the advice of DesignGears and used the one click root application from the Kingo Root site (google it.) After I did that, I now have full root access back, encryption, and never had to uninstall the region lock, so I didn't lose phone connectivity, applications, or anything else during the process. I recommend using TitaniumBackup and syncing via Google Drive or Dropbox before you start the process so you can restore your apps and data, once again, just in case.

encrypted ATT Note 3 not able to root
I was able to unroot my ATT Note 3 and then encrypted it. But Kingo Root failed to root the device. (I used it to root the phone once previously)
Now I stuck in a status with encrypted phone not able to root anymore.
Any suggestions please?
GHolbrook4 said:
I'm an AT&T customer, but I bought a T Mobile Note 3 off of Craigslist, unlocked it, rooted using Chainfire's ODIN thread, and then used the RegionFree Lock Away app. I was unable to encrypt just like you guys until I did the following. Flashed TWRP tar file from the TWRP site using ODIN. Rebooted into recovery and made an image, backup up everything, just in case. Rebooted and went in the SU Superuser application that Chainfire originally installed and uninstalled through the settings in the program. Once I rebooted I was able to encrypt the device (without fast method), I already had my SD Card encrypted. Once I encrypted the device I downloaded Kingo Root at the advice of DesignGears and used the one click root application from the Kingo Root site (google it.) After I did that, I now have full root access back, encryption, and never had to uninstall the region lock, so I didn't lose phone connectivity, applications, or anything else during the process. I recommend using TitaniumBackup and syncing via Google Drive or Dropbox before you start the process so you can restore your apps and data, once again, just in case.
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I was able to get mine to encrypt after killing the bloat apps. All Google sync, amazon, and Verizon services. I can't say which one was killing it since it stopped pretty much every app or service that wasn't critical to the device.

Can anyone confirm that Encryption will never work once we root our phone ?

nlatifolia said:
Can anyone confirm that Encryption will never work once we root our phone ?
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Same question here... Anyone was able to encrypt after being rooted???

Same question, rooted can't encrypt.

Just got a note 3 and this is an old thread. So wanted to update this question.
To encrypt device after root all that is needed to do is run the following command from terminal or adb shell as root. You must have the latest busybox installed.
pkill -KILL daemonsu
After running this command you should be back at the "$" prompt and out of root. Do not run su again.
Then encrypt your device. Encryption should work fine. Once rebooted you will have root again.
I had to repeat the above steps because I ran su again. Running su restarts daemonsu.
Good luck

Hi,
I was able to root and encrypt my sm-n900 note3 using the steps mentioned on this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2791587
Just make sure that you have your backups ready case something goes wrong
I've installed the bloatwares after rooting and encrypt.

[Q] Weird, weird issue - Home button/notifications panel don't work

To preface,
I'm running an AT&T LG G2 rooted (with a couple of Xposed modules). I'm running 4.2.2
Today, I rebooted my phone after updating some apps from the play store, and then all hell broke loose. Here's a list of what went wrong
1) ALL of my settings were reset. Sound settings, call settings, screen on settings, etc. EVERYTHING.
2) My home button doesn't work. It lights up - it knows I pressed it, but it doesn't send me to the launcher. I have the home button programmed through Nova Launcher to open my voice search when I'm on the home screen - that doesn't work either.
3) My notifications panel stays empty - nothing shows up. On top of that, the little "gear" icon that should take me to settings doesn't work. There's a gear setting above that for sound that DOES work.
4) When I go to "About Phone", my phone name was reset to "G2".
4) Here's the kicker - When I go to "About Phone", the "Software Update" button has disappeared. What the hell happened?
If anybody can solve this issue, I have a small bitcoin prize for you...
Edit: Noticed something new. I went into Titanium Backup and it gave me a notification that my "Device ID" was changed. It states that this commonly occurs after a factory reset or ROM change? Here's the thing - I've never factory resetted my phone or even installed a recovery for that matter.
Notice #2: Volume keys don't respond. Although changing volume manually through the settings does work.
Quick note: I changed a value in settings.db using SQLite manager. I tried changing "tether_entitlement_check_state" to 0. And then I exported the DB and saved it. Would that have caused an issue?

well all hell really did break loose here, have you tried entering download mode and flash back to stock(I'm pretty sure this isn't you want to do) but it might be the only thing to do

XxZombiePikachu said:
well all hell really did break loose here, have you tried entering download mode and flash back to stock(I'm pretty sure this isn't you want to do) but it might be the only thing to do
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I don't have a custom recovery installed.

crazylilazn said:
I don't have a custom recovery installed.
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when I said flash back to stock I meant the download mode way just download jellybean 10d/10o or 20c installer and follow instructions on how to setup and flash

XxZombiePikachu said:
when I said flash back to stock I meant the download mode way just download jellybean 10d/10o or 20c installer and follow instructions on how to setup and flash
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Interesting. Thanks for the link. I wonder, other than hiding the "root" flags, how is this different from performing a factory reset? I would be opting to restore 4.2.2, not Kit Kat.

crazylilazn said:
Interesting. Thanks for the link. I wonder, other than hiding the "root" flags, how is this different from performing a factory reset? I would be opting to restore 4.2.2, not Kit Kat.
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well tis is different to a factory reset as in it makes everything the way it used to be like if you were just powering on your phone for the first time while with a factory reset- if you have lets say deleted bloat and modified anything in the /system or other areas they are gone forever, the factory reset is more like a wipe your phone and start again(sometimes if you are rooted it remains rooted just without the su app)

XxZombiePikachu said:
well tis is different to a factory reset as in it makes everything the way it used to be like if you were just powering on your phone for the first time while with a factory reset- if you have lets say deleted bloat and modified anything in the /system or other areas they are gone forever, the factory reset is more like a wipe your phone and start again(sometimes if you are rooted it remains rooted just without the su app)
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Alright then...hmm. Wait I have another question. Does a factory reset delete my internal memory, the pseudo sd-card? Like my photos/TB backup/etc.?

crazylilazn said:
Alright then...hmm. Wait I have another question. Does a factory reset delete my internal memory, the pseudo sd-card? Like my photos/TB backup/etc.?
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I'm pretty sure it does but I have always had doubts about that(I usually always wipe with custom recovery so I don't remember when was the last time I used factory reset option, plus I upload a most of my backups into onedrive/goole drive/dropbox) also using the flash to stock method will wipe everything from the phone like I said its like powering it on for the first time just in case you were wondering

XxZombiePikachu said:
I'm pretty sure it does but I have always had doubts about that(I usually always wipe with custom recovery so I don't remember when was the last time I used factory reset option, plus I upload a most of my backups into onedrive/goole drive/dropbox) also using the flash to stock method will wipe everything from the phone like I said its like powering it on for the first time just in case you were wondering
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Okay, so here's my plan. I'm currently ADB pulling my entire SD card (with the titanium backup contents) onto my laptop. I plan to factory reset (the default android one that's in the settings). If that doesn't work, I will use the other flash-to-stock method.
Once I'm done, I plan to use Titanium backup to restore everything including settings. Here's my question:
When I'm restoring everything, will it be 1-click? In the past when I had other phones, the only time I restored TB was when I flashed different ROMs, so it caused havoc with my settings. Since I'm keeping the stock-ROM software, will I be able to 1-click "Restore" and have everything be how it used to be (Except for the Xposed Modules of course) ?
Also...I really don't like how MTP hides the Titanium Backup folder...

crazylilazn said:
Okay, so here's my plan. I'm currently ADB pulling my entire SD card (with the titanium backup contents) onto my laptop. I plan to factory reset (the default android one that's in the settings). If that doesn't work, I will use the other flash-to-stock method.
Once I'm done, I plan to use Titanium backup to restore everything including settings. Here's my question:
When I'm restoring everything, will it be 1-click? In the past when I had other phones, the only time I restored TB was when I flashed different ROMs, so it caused havoc with my settings. Since I'm keeping the stock-ROM software, will I be able to 1-click "Restore" and have everything be how it used to be (Except for the Xposed Modules of course) ?
Also...I really don't like how MTP hides the Titanium Backup folder...
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well I don't think you can one click restore with titanium backup(I don't see that as an option) you have to restore everything manually
as for mtp hiding the backups, I'm on the same boat as you

XxZombiePikachu said:
well I don't think you can one click restore with titanium backup(I don't see that as an option) you have to restore everything manually
as for mtp hiding the backups, I'm on the same boat as you
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Referring to TB, you can set it to restore your backups with 1 click through "batch mode", but I believe you need to have the paid version.
Anyway, everything's fixed! I actually just put a recovery on it, and then deleted data and cache. That way my internal sd card didn't get wiped.
And I did a little more searching, it seems like modifying the sqlite database when you try to remove AT&T's tethering check causes the weird issue. I wonder if it's a secret backdoor program that makes your phone unusable...

crazylilazn said:
Referring to TB, you can set it to restore your backups with 1 click through "batch mode", but I believe you need to have the paid version.
Anyway, everything's fixed! I actually just put a recovery on it, and then deleted data and cache. That way my internal sd card didn't get wiped.
And I did a little more searching, it seems like modifying the sqlite database when you try to remove AT&T's tethering check causes the weird issue. I wonder if it's a secret backdoor program that makes your phone unusable...
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yea I decided to try out the SQLite tether and for a moment there my phone went crazy(lag/not responding to touch/etc) so I plugged in my mouse through otg and returned it to the default

XxZombiePikachu said:
yea I decided to try out the SQLite tether and for a moment there my phone went crazy(lag/not responding to touch/etc) so I plugged in my mouse through otg and returned it to the default
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Any other way to set up wireless tether? I've read that most wireless tether apps don't work. I haven't actually tried, but is that true?

[Q] Can't Root LG G2

Hello,
New to this forum and was wondering if anyone can help me out. Here's my back story. For some unknown reason my G2 did a factory restore while it was charging. So of course all of my photos, contacts, etc. that had not been backed up were lost. Now this is a company phone so I started the process of setting up my email, security, etc when I came across this forum and others that explained how to possibly restore lost data. Here is where I am running into issues.
I tried following some of the examples using various apps to restore, but since I can not use USB transfer, only MTP or PTP this caused issues. Before rooting I did some checks explained on this forum. One was using the 3845#*803# to check for root. Funny enough it showed my phone had been rooted, stating that su and busybox were installed. This was interesting since I had never actually installed these programs and never tried to root my phone before. I looked at my apps and did find su, I am guessing one of the restore programs loaded this. Anyway when I run root checker it states the device does not have root access. So after several factory resets thx to Homero2 "HOW TO MAKE A PERFECT UNROOTED" thread. I am back to were my phone now shows unrooted.
Now I am trying to root my phone to try and recover data. I am running into an issue here with binaries. I tried installing SuperSu and I am getting the following error "There is no SU binary installed". I also tried using Superuser and ran into the same issue. Any help resolving this would be much appreciated.
Here is my phone info:
LG G2
Android v. 4.4.2
Kernel v. 3.4.0
Build # KOT491.D803R20f
Software v. D803R20f

Search for stumproot. That will get you rooted.

+1 for stumproot

Strange.... Company phone.... Rooted but not by me.... Mysterious reset....
Are you sure that no one is stealing your data or spying you? Programs like cerberus can be invisible if rooted and they can remote erase your data... And much more... I advise you to deep analize the situation..
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siggey said:
Strange.... Company phone.... Rooted but not by me.... Mysterious reset....
Are you sure that no one is stealing your data or spying you? Programs like cerberus can be invisible if rooted and they can remote erase your data... And much more... I advise you to deep analize the situation..
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I was thinking the same thing that there was likely some kind of phishing, virus, etc.. program on my phone, likely downloaded through an app. Corporate espionage, probably not likely, my company,maybe, but more than likely they would just fire me if they didn't like what I had on my phone.. Most likely someone trying to steal personal info. I am not sure what I can do at this point to analyse what and how was on my phone. I am still dealing with how to recover lost data.
Also I tried the StumpRoot. Wasn't too successful. First run through it said my phone was rooted. I rebooted and loaded su, removed stump and ran a couple different apps to try and recover data unsuccessfully. When I checked su and root checker it said my phone wasn't rooted. So I ran Stumproot multiple times unsuccessfully. It kept saying my device wasn't supported, or something along those lines, I kind of was nearing the end of my frustration line by that point. So I am back to Factory Stock and pretty much at a cross roads as to whether to continue down this road of data recovery. Being a company phone I am not really interested in leaving my phone rooted. I will definitely take a more proactive approach to syncing my data more often.
This site and forum are fantastic with more information then I could ever know what to do with. It's great having moderators and posters like yourself. TY :good: