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Your Athena is obsolete already :(

Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.

is that 7" in your pocket or are you pleased to see me?

Pyrofer said:
Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Too big, man. The Athena is significantly smaller.

it is not a PDA-Phone
it is an UMPC

7" Is just way to big
No weeping here they can keep it.

That is the HTC Shift. it has been well known for quite a while there are even much better pictures than that available. Areas of contention:
-Resolution was reported to be better specked than on your link
-Unconfirmed if it will run WM6, seems unlikely HTC would license 2 O/S for one device, ie costs to them and than users.

Looks very interesting. However, I don't find it appealing to me the same as way Athena. Portability factor is not as attractive as Athena. I prefer no keyboard (I like a tablet) and size no bigger than Athena. I like the storage capacity though. I don't know if running Vista on it would be sluggish and taxing on the battery, so let's wait and see. I wonder how easy it is for the phone to respond to incoming calls under Vista.

yea dude...thats the htc shift...that piece of crap is tooo darn big for a pocket...

Is this not like the cPC thing that flopped on a major level? With a dual boot between standard Windows and Mobile Windows?
Although, the fingerprint thing would be interesting for me with some of the software I'm using, but not for a major price increase........

Pyrofer said:
Well, I have all the stupid little things that are wrong with the Athena. They keyboard is often commented on, I have no idea why the Athena wasnt better...
Well, here it is, the Shangri-La (9500)
http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news_pics/14201/HTC_2.jpg
Read it and weep.
Mind you, no way im fitting a 7" lcd in my pocket! the Athena is bad enough.
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Who says I can't have both? I have two pockets. Just have to make one pocket bigger than the other. ;-)
I'm trying to decide if I want to order one or not. My deciding factor was the built in GPS. Since I see that the Shift may have built in GPS, it's becoming more attractive to me. Just soooo damn big. 7" screen. I have a PVR that has a 7" screen with a 100gig HD and it won't fit into my pocket. Just too big. I leave it in my back pack. I don't want to carry my back pack just because my new phone is too big. Still deciding.

Carrying the Athena? (let alone anything bigger)
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?

wgary said:
With respect to size, even the Athena is plenty big. I still haven't found a solution I like for carrying it with me. If I'm wearing pants with large pockets, that sort of works except for looking kinda freakish. And it really won't fit in some pockets.
I have also tried a camera bag that clips onto my belt. That lasted about 30 minutes. Just too dang bulky. So much of the time I carry it around like a little purse, which irritates me because I'm always afraid I'll forget it. (How do women do this??)
None of the commercial cases I've looked at have seemed like they will do what I want. The best solution I saw was a metal frame that hooks on to the stock case with a belt clip that this guy posted pictures of, but he hasn't responded to my inquiries about making me one!
-> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1311287&highlight=lasers#post1311287
So... what are the rest of you doing? Any great ideas?
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My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?

Abram said:
My sentiments exactly! I need to carry it so I can have both hands free, ALWAYS. That means a belt case. My latest addition (3rd attempt) was a nintendo DS lite case. Guess what, it doesn't fit! Maybe we could persuade that guy with the metal clip to have a go for us, and give us a quote?
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He hasn't responded to PMs and his email is hidden. Hopefully he'll check back some day and notice we're looking for him! For me, this might be the best approach. I really like the stock case (know I'm a minority there), but it does work for me. For example, sits flat for tabletop typing, EZ in/out of case to use it in tablet mode, keyboard pops right into place while still in the case, etc... EXCEPT for the missing belt clip.!!

I have absolutely no issue in carrying the unit around. This is what I have. I can either bring the keyboard with me or leave it behind.
http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=14690&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=360
The device is well protected. Not a single scratch until now. The unit still look brand new.

[Q] Some way to strip the iconia to remove weight?

Ok, maybe this is kind of a stupid question but i just wanted to ask if someone knows, what exactly makes the differnce in weight between all the new honeycomb tablets and if there is a way to strip the iconia to "remove" some of the weight by replacing components with lighter ones? I guess most of the weight is the battery, an the casing. maybe u can remove some plastic inside the iconia which is just not really useful or stuff
anyone got some ideas?
kiark

Just look up the weight of each tablet on the main sites, i think the iconia isnt even the heaviest.
Why ruin a great product? I mean you do what you wanna do but every piece in that machine is made and put there for a reason.

work out
If your Iconia is to heavy for you.best bet is to got the gym. There is nonesuch to make the device lighter it is what it is.Near perfect in every way, kinda almost as perfect as me. You could buy the a100.im sure its prob lighter.
Have a great day.
Good luck at the gym.
Please don't think my post as being rude.our device is what it is.
Giggles

sure
Open the case, rip out the board and battery cell, invent a featherweight case that fits the original physics package 100%, remount it all in your new prototype case.

rip out the display and replace it with holographic projector*
*holographic projector may not exist in this temporal frame.

Don't be so rude to me guys
As there are many hardware "mods" out on different platforms as the psp or handhelds general i was just wandering if there is a way to "mod" the iconia regarding weight. for example part of the case is brushed aluminium which could be replaced by plastic, and i bet there are different parts from the hardware inside which may be lighter.
don't get me wrong, i like the iconia very much but i'm also into modification, as i think all of you are, since your iconias will have custom roms or upgrades or are rooted or whatever. only difference is software and hardware.
kiark
PS: sorry for my english

kiark said:
Don't be so rude to me guys
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Sorry, not trying to be rude, just funny, perhaps look for Chinese OEM gear or replacement parts that are available from a third party.
p.s your English is fine.

The only way to make this tablet lighter is if you remove your battery and use it as an AC only device.

kiark said:
Don't be so rude to me guys
As there are many hardware "mods" out on different platforms as the psp or handhelds general i was just wandering if there is a way to "mod" the iconia regarding weight. for example part of the case is brushed aluminium which could be replaced by plastic, and i bet there are different parts from the hardware inside which may be lighter.
don't get me wrong, i like the iconia very much but i'm also into modification, as i think all of you are, since your iconias will have custom roms or upgrades or are rooted or whatever. only difference is software and hardware.
kiark
PS: sorry for my english
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The Acer is heavier than most other tablets but I have found that it is also well balanced. The weight doesn't really bother me. I think it is the aluminum case that makes it a little hearvier.
It always makes me laugh because reviewers will either complain that the device feels cheap if it is made of plastic or too heavy if it is made of aluminum, except for iPad 1 which according to many of them had a "premium feel" when it was basically the same weight as the Iconia.

Would love to see some sort of casemod for the iconia.

boganslaw said:
Sorry, not trying to be rude, just funny, perhaps look for Chinese OEM gear or replacement parts that are available from a third party.
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I know i was just whining a bit *gg*
Some sort of casemod would be really nice... is there any casemod out for any of the tablets atm?
Cheers

With the announcement at I/O, which Android Wear will you get?

And why?! Please no bashing of certain brands/watches! Discussion thread only!

First to reply !?
Well, personally I use a LG G2 as my daily driver now. I would naturally go for the G Watch.
I agree that the circular watch face on the Moto 360 is way awesome. But it is not available just yet
In comparison of the G Watch and the Galaxy Gear Live. I would go for G Watch, on same company and the fact that it has more battery.
400 vs 300, thats 1/4 differences, which is a lot. My previous experiences with Galaxy 3 didn't occur to me that Samsung's products are not battery hungry. I would rather have 25% more battery than say, having an extra heartbeat sensor (which will potentially use up more battery?)
I also like IPS screen more :good:

I like the look of the 360 best but from videos I've seen, a square screen has a lot more usable real estate than a round one. So I would choose the Gear.

Little confused. I was looking to get the gear 2 but figured I'd wait. With the news today..will one be able to answer calls and text on the android wear watches? Also..it looks like they are basically revolving around Google now?
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I have ordered the Gear Live. Higher resolution and heart rate sensor made me pick it over the LG. The fact that it was cheaper helped too.
I will probably pick up a Moto 360 when it becomes available as well.

Are there any hands on that show how you wake the Gear Live from it's sleep state? Does a simple flick of the wrist work, or do I have to press the button. If I have to press the button, I'm going to get the G Watch in a flash.

I voted galaxy gear one hundred percent because its 30 bucks cheaper. Dont know why the LG G is more? Haha so thats why i came to this thread.

Just ordered both (UK) as I'm undecided and expect them to sell out fast... my brother wants one anyway so will give him the Samsung most likely.
Strange that the LG was the cheaper one in the UK? Maybe it has a secret spec :fingers-crossed:
Prefer the LG anyway as it is smaller and looks to have a longer battery life (essential in a watch device).

Ordered the LG.
Battery life was the decider.

The Moto360 - because of its circular display with near zero bezel
Joe0113 said:
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The Moto360 is a reinterpretation of the classic circular wrist watch which makes it a classic in its own right. The display has a near zero bezel, running edge to edge which is a first. I find these two enough to go for it. There's a high novelty value. The screen looks fantastic.
Apparently the screen is off most of the time, and can be turned on with a) a gesture b) touch c) the button.
Wireless charging is the right move.
Negatives:
The screen doesn't have an anti-reflective coating, though, so it will be hard to read outdoors, impossible in the sun.
The battery won't last more than a few years, and sinces it's likely to be non replaceable. This prevents the Moto360 from becoming a true classic worn in the future. Not that important, perhaps, since there will be better versions out in the future, but it makes it less of a classic, more time bound, ephemeral.

Find it a little strange the LG is cheaper in the UK, but more expensive in the US.
Went for the Gear, no real decider as they're really similar, hoping as samsung have a history with them the hardware will be a bit better

Gadgety said:
The Moto360 is a reinterpretation of the classic circular wrist watch which makes it a classic in its own right. The display has a near zero bezel, running edge to edge which is a first. I find these two enough to go for it. There's a high novelty value. The screen looks fantastic.
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Good points. I'm a guy who wears a classic round-faced watch everyday and want to get into Android Wear. Moto360 seems to be the right choice for me.
Does the Moto360 actually have Android Wear on it? Why were they allowed to release a bunch of pics and advertise before the I/O while everyone else had to/wanted to wait? What else do we know about it? Price? Release date?

Ordered the Gear
Better style, heart rate monitor, cheaper

granduke said:
Ordered the Gear
Better style, heart rate monitor, cheaper
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Same. Ordered it last night.
My s/o thought the gear live just looked way better.

I was torn on what to get. Obviously the 360's design is fantastic. For a poor graduate student, though, it is going to (likely) be well above my price range at the moment. I have $150 from the recall of my FitBit Force and decided to go with the Gear Live because of the AMOLED screen and the overall design. JR Raphael of PC World and Artem Russakovskii from AndroidPolice both recommended the Gear Live over the G Watch. Neither of them have led me astray yet, so I will take their word.
Once I am done with grad school and have a good job in hand, I will upgrade to something more fancy-schmancy. I'm stoked to get my Gear Live, though!

Ordered the Samsung here in the UK
I wanted the LG until I saw it ....
I think the Samsung looks better, has higher screen res, and the HRM - the other main factor was that Samsung have been making smart watches for a while now, so should have learnt a few things
All that said - I like the Moto with the metal strap - so will probably change later in the year --- by which time HTC may have come up with something

I orderded the G watch. Personally think its better looking than the Gear. Hoping the 400mah battery pays off as well. Ultimately hoping whatever HTC has up their sleeves will be as amazing as their phones.

I jumped for the Gwatch. I personally like the less flashy design, and chose to support LG over Samsung. Pretty excited to get it! It's a step in the right direction I would say.

Just ordered a Gear Live, G-Watch was tempting but it is more expensive has a worse display and fewer sensors ?
The Motorola Watch is vaporware, this is why Motorola dropped from number one manufacturer to a company bought out by a Chinese corporation. Motorola has not been first to the market with anything in years.

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Still AndroidWear SmartWachtes is are so young
No Camera
No Speak-Mic to Answer Call
and lots of more features.
when i compare androidWear by Tizen Powered SmartWatches I will choose Galaxy Gear2

Classical round design, Metal housing China smartwatch

After NO.1 G2 smartwatch last year, NO.1 release another smartwatch. The newest watch from the company though is a little more unique. Named the NO.1 SUN S2, it features a gold body and round screen similar to the Moto 360.
This circular smart watch is made of metal and looks just like a conventional watch. This wearable comes packed with a 240x240p screen and a 350 mAh battery, mt6260 chip. You can make calls, read text messages, check call logs, browse contacts, play music, track your heart rate and keep a log on your activity, among other things. IT even has a camera (130W pixels).

No. 1 Sun S2
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After NO.1 G2 smartwatch last year, NO.1 release another smartwatch. The newest watch from the company though is a little more unique. Named the NO.1 SUN S2, it features a gold body and round screen similar to the Moto 360.
This circular smart watch is made of metal and looks just like a conventional watch. This wearable comes packed with a 240x240p screen and a 350 mAh battery, mt6260 chip. You can make calls, read text messages, check call logs, browse contacts, play music, track your heart rate and keep a log on your activity, among other things. IT even has a camera (130W pixels).
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Here's their website: http://en.001phone.cn/product-no-1-sun-smartwatch-100.html - No. 1 Sun S2, looks nice
@s7yler - look for to your review, if you decide to do one

looks like what conventional watch exactly?
holy crap that thing is ugly

JarlSX said:
looks like what conventional watch exactly?
holy crap that thing is ugly
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I on the other hand think it's great looking. Can't wait until it's released.

PolishPoet said:
I on the other hand think it's great looking. Can't wait until it's released.
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Bad news is that, It will release late, until next month

JarlSX said:
looks like what conventional watch exactly?
holy crap that thing is ugly
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I collect/mod watches and, the lack of numbers on the bezel aside, can think of a lot of watches. Like the Marathon WW194006 for one. Prometheus Jellyfish is another.

There is a $2 dollar coupon code here for people who are interested in pre ordering the device.

NO.1 SUN S2 All Version Show

I finally made up my mind on an Android Wear Watch! Which did you go with and why?

Hello,
So I was in the market for a new watch. I figured that if I am going to go out and buy a watch, I may as well go with a smartwatch. I want it solely to show me what time it is and for notifications. (Phone Calls and Text Messages mainly) So I could care less about a heart rate sensor. Here are all of the watches that I have considered, but decided against for various reasons:
Asus Zenwatch 2: This was originally what I wanted to get, until I went and looked at it at Best Buy. I can't stand the bezels. If the watch face was all display, I would have one on my wrist right now.
Moto 360 1st Gen: Then I looked at this, as it was $150 from Motorola for the model I liked. (Champagne w/ brown leather) The dated processor and smaller battery turned me away.
Moto 360 2nd Gen: I do like this overall, however by the time I get it the way I want, I can just buy a Huawei watch for the same price. (Dodging the flat tire LCD for an AMOLED)
LG Watch Urbane: I have mixed feelings about this one. I'm not crazy about the overall design and I have heard numerous reports of screen burn in.
Huawei Watch: I like this watch overall. However, I feel a 2nd Gen is right around the corner, and the price is a bit high.
Tag Heuer Connected: I really like this one! I do not like its $1500 price tag though....
Samsung Gear S2 Classic: I feel this watch is PERFECT for me. I love the design and the rotating bezel! I was super bummed to find out the display size and that it wasn't running Android Wear though....
This brings me to my last choice, and the one that I ended up ordering: The Fossil Q Founder.
I really do like the design of the watch itself! I feel it looks quite nice. I prefer leather bands, so the fact that it accepts pretty much any 22mm watch band is a big plus. (I wont wear metal bands) I also feel the Fossil Q is a better investment, which played a big part in my decision. The Intel Atom processor, 1GB of ram, and internal speaker make it seem more future proof to me. The 400mah battery should be sufficient for a full day of use. I expected to have to charge whichever watch I ended up getting nightly. The only downfall to the Q in my opinion is the infamous flat tire on the display. I can live with it though. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to have a Fossil Q Founder with the Huawei Watch Display. It is what it is though.
After reviewing pretty much every Android Wear watch, I found that none of them are perfect. There are pros and cons to all of them really. Even the Tag Heuer Connected, although I feel its only con is its price tag. lol. With very similar hardware and pretty much identical software I guess it comes down to personal preference of aesthetics ultimately. I like the design of the Fossil Q. The fact that it is a little better specd than others as well is what ultimately made me decide to get it.
I will update more when I get it. I am also going to (very carefully) pop the bottom off to see if I can find out which Intel Atom processor it is running exactly.
So what Android Wear watch did you go with and why?

xx

dazultra2000 said:
I stopped wearing watches a few years ago as the bulk on my wrist started to annoy me and my phone told me the time so it seemed pointless. A few months ago the vibrate on my M8 stopped working, and as it was out of warranty and considerably hacked in the software department, I was kinda stuck until I can upgrade. I found myself missing notifications and calls and got pretty annoyed about it. I was holding out for the zenwatch 2 as it was cheap enough that if I didn't get on with it, it wouldn't be such a loss money-wise. However, it had limited availability and I didn't want to wait any longer as I would end up just waiting for the next better watch. I found a decent discount for the urbane and went for it. I always had chunky metal watches before (my last was a casio g-shock GW-1210U which I loved dearly, so I figured if I could change the band on the urbane to a nice metal one it wouldn't be much different. The Urbane is actually thinner than my old G-shock. Anyway, I love my urbane. Battery life is great, display is nice and it feels like a quality item. My only real issue with it is that it does lag sometimes, but I was expecting that so it doesn't put me off too much.
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Nice! I did look at the LG Urbane. Amazon has it right now for $250 brand new. So it was tempting. Especially being it has an AMOLED display with no flat tire. I just felt for $25 more dollars I am getting a slightly larger display, double the ram, and future speaker support. Personally, I like the design of the fossil more as well.

Zenwatch 2. I love it. Honestly, the software is all the same, and hardware to mostly. Zenwatch is more affordable meaning when gen 2 or 3 watches come out, you can put that extra money to get those.