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Note 2... Padphone 2... FIGHT!

Okay I'll edit this later with all the known stats but for now please help me decide which is should blow my load on, the note 2 or the padphone 2.
In brief
amoled vs IPS
5,5 vs 4,7 + 10.1
Exynos vs S4
Polycarbonate (plastic) vs something better
16gb+SD vs 16gb (both may do bigger sometime circa 2113.)
Buy now vs Buy Dec (knowing Asus buy April or buy a Lemon)
Help please, I little stopped myself buying the note today because of how much better the padphone 2 looks to the PDP1.
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Galaxy Note its an unique device.. You can not compare it to anything.. And everything depends on your needs and likes... I can not take anything less than 5.3" Wich its my note 1(waiting for my note 2 to arrive) specs wise the note 2 its the best device to date out there and even if later someone releases something better/faster in processor terms still can not match the 5.55" RGB super Amoled screen
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I'm holding out for the galaxy s4 lolz^o^
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msedek said:
Galaxy Note its an unique device.. You can not compare it to anything.. And everything depends on your needs and likes... I can not take anything less than 5.3" Wich its my note 1(waiting for my note 2 to arrive) specs wise the note 2 its the best device to date out there and even if later someone releases something better/faster in processor terms still can not match the 5.55" RGB super Amoled screen
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I'm also don't understand why people trying to compare Galaxy Note series devices with something.

anonymous572 said:
I'm also don't understand why people trying to compare Galaxy Note series devices with something.
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Because this is the only Phablet out there, and it has some cons such as: old CPU and GPU (if comparing to Snapdragon S4 Pro with Adreno 320 GPU), no support from CM (yes, this is a deal breaker for me!), and I personally don't really like SAMOLED screens because of low brightness and bad whites, also they burn in, camera is also not the best out there today (look at the PadFone 2).
The only pros I see for this device is: huge screen, huge battery, sd slot, replaceable battery and Samsung's AWESOME features (S Pen, Popup Note, Popup Play (I know the last two wont work with CM, but they are still there with TW roms, and I can always switch ))
So for now, I don't know what to choose
If the Note II will have CM support (ahm ahm Exynos documentation), I will definitely get it

DubelBoom said:
I personally don't really like SAMOLED screens
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I don't know why some people don't like SAMOLED screens, but I prefer only it and nothing else. Low brightness, burning and bad whites is nonsense. I'm using the third super amoled sreen and never had any of this problems.
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camera is also not the best out there today (look at the PadFone 2)
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Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.

anonymous572 said:
Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.
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The reason why I left off camera details is we've not got enough to compare. Everyone knows megapixels are primarily a marketing tool.
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anonymous572 said:
I don't know why some people don't like SAMOLED screens, but I prefer only it and nothing else. Low brightness, burning and bad whites is nonsense. I'm using the third super amoled sreen and never had any of this problems.
Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.
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It shoots at 6FPS brust shot, and 60FPS on 720P video!
Its very fast. Also, its a very new Sony camera, what could be bad? :cyclops:

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The reason why I left off camera details is we've not got enough to compare. Everyone knows megapixels are primarily a marketing tool.
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I don't think that PadFone 2 have all this great samsung camera tweaks. I really like burst shot, best faces, slow motion and other samsung features.

If I wanted to actually carry a phone and a tablet I would buy a seperate phone and tablet not a padfone with a crappy half tablet. The note 2 serves people that DON'T want to carry around a tablet to satisfy their daily media-consumption needs
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Don't forget about Verizon's 5" HTC phablet coming in next 4 weeks or the Oppo Find 5 with over 400 ppi!
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Don't forget about Verizon's 5" HTC phablet coming in next 4 weeks or the Oppo Find 5 with over 400 ppi!
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Oppo Finder 5 looks awesome!!!
Why an unknown Chinese company make the best device?! and its so thin!!!!!

CreepyDroid said:
If I wanted to actually carry a phone and a tablet I would buy a seperate phone and tablet not a padfone with a crappy half tablet. The note 2 serves people that DON'T want to carry around a tablet to satisfy their daily media-consumption needs
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Half tablet?
It'll have a decent screen, its lighter than an iPad 3 (not fair as the screen is far superior), excellent performance, good battery, probably decent camera.
What's half about that? And you wouldn't have to take it everywhere...
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If you look at Asus record as far as android devices are concerned, there are many negative things to say. I had a TF101 and it was crap and looking at all the issues people keep having with their Asus android devices a miracle will have to happen for the padphone to work properly. I have had a 7.7 galaxy tab for a while now and i can count on the fingers of one hand how many times a program has FCed on it. Asus will probably paper release the Padfone 3 six months after the 2 just like they did with the Padfone 1. ..
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EmptyArea said:
Half tablet?
It'll have a decent screen, its lighter than an iPad 3 (not fair as the screen is far superior), excellent performance, good battery, probably decent camera.
What's half about that? And you wouldn't have to take it everywhere...
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Half tablet because it's useless without the phone
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I keen 2 give them slack regarding new form factors. They didn't even release the padphone 1 in the UK...
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I don't know why some people don't like SAMOLED screens, but I prefer only it and nothing else. Low brightness, burning and bad whites is nonsense. I'm using the third super amoled sreen and never had any of this problems.
Why do you believe that PadFone 2 camera is better?? Because it is just 13mpix?
Best camera I ever see - it is Nokia N82 with 5mpix.
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My Verizon Nexus has burn in on the corners where the Waze icons live. It's not bad, I can't get a good photo of it, but they are there, and quite noticeable when the screen has a darker color across them.

The ONLY device that will really beat the Galaxy Note 2 is coming in 1 year and is call...................
GALAXY
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The ONLY device that will really beat the Galaxy Note 2 is coming in 1 year and is call...................
GALAXY
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Lol
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DubelBoom said:
Because this is the only Phablet out there, and it has some cons such as: old CPU and GPU (if comparing to Snapdragon S4 Pro with Adreno 320 GPU), no support from CM (yes, this is a deal breaker for me!), and I personally don't really like SAMOLED screens because of low brightness and bad whites, also they burn in, camera is also not the best out there today (look at the PadFone 2).
The only pros I see for this device is: huge screen, huge battery, sd slot, replaceable battery and Samsung's AWESOME features (S Pen, Popup Note, Popup Play (I know the last two wont work with CM, but they are still there with TW roms, and I can always switch ))
So for now, I don't know what to choose
If the Note II will have CM support (ahm ahm Exynos documentation), I will definitely get it
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Older / newer (processor term) doesn't mean anything.. Those are 2 different technologies.. It's like comparing the newer AMD against the "older" core i7 xtreme just plain bull****. Note wouldn't be any faster or smoother with snap dragon s4.. The gpu keeps the name but it has lots of improvements over older versions.. And to be honest even with my N7000 I can play any game in the play store...
About cm support.. Tw at this stage has no match feature/smoothness wise.. Why would I flash a very basic flat android when I have a better launcher made by samsung? (Btw if you like aosp looks just install nova /apex)
Camera its not better for mega pixels but the lense and my note does take greate pictures... And I'm not a professional photographer and If I were, I wouldn't use a phone to take pictures so that's just plain dumb.
SAMOLED its great.. I've owned s3, gnexus note 1, no problem so far.. And note 2 has RGB matrix so the little things that bothers me from pentile are now gone.. Bad whites? What do you do with whites? Everyone avoid whites.. Battery raper color...
Low brightness.. Wonder if you spend most of your time under the sun because that's the only condition in which you would need higher brightness and even so my Amoled devices have done well under sunny days..
You are trying to convince yourself of getting anything else but you are not looking at it in the right way... Note its an unique device.. Until now no matter what technology its out there nothing could match note 1 not even s3 or HTC one X why? ... Plain simple massive 5.3" screen/unique features only note 2 could take the crown and so will note 3...
With note devices just 2 things can happen or you hate it because of the size and would never get 1 or you completely love it and would never switch to anything smaller... Thing its that you gotta own the devices for some weeks to figure out that
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Considering a Note 2 - Currently using the S3 LTE

Has anyone come from a S3 LTE?
The size puts me off, but I had a play around with one yesterday and absolutely loved it.
Please convince me! lol

Please dont buy it because once you go big you can't go back. I love mine and everything else feels so small.
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alphaola said:
Please dont buy it because once you go big you can't go back. I love mine and everything else feels so small.
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what phone have you come from buddy

winwiz said:
what phone have you come from buddy
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Galaxy Nexus
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Came from a S3 LTE...Loved the S3...LOVE the Note 2 more...lol. The speed, battery life, screen, all much better! The size at first was a little big, but after using it a bit when I pick up my S3 it seems so small. The note 2 is well worth the upgrade IMOP.

Having used S3 and now note 2 I would say n2 is a far better phone bar couple issues. Screen resolution and camera are better on s3 if you can live with that then go for it however I would recommend waiting for HTC's Butterfly DLX before you makeup your mind. If I had a choice and both butterfly and note 2 where available I would definitely go for butterfly, purely due to far superior design and specs

riz157 said:
Having used S3 and now note 2 I would say n2 is a far better phone bar couple issues. Screen resolution and camera are better on s3 if you can live with that then go for it however I would recommend waiting for HTC's Butterfly DLX before you makeup your mind. If I had a choice and both butterfly and note 2 where available I would definitely go for butterfly, purely due to far superior design and specs
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cameras seem the same, is the screen res noticeably different?

riz157 said:
Having used S3 and now note 2 I would say n2 is a far better phone bar couple issues. Screen resolution and camera are better on s3 if you can live with that then go for it however I would recommend waiting for HTC's Butterfly DLX before you makeup your mind. If I had a choice and both butterfly and note 2 where available I would definitely go for butterfly, purely due to far superior design and specs
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or u'd betta hold and wait for SGS4 or SGN3 huhuhuhuh

My now sold Galaxy S3 LTE had the best Amoled screen (in terms of color reproduction) I've ever seen. Absolutely no color cast! My Note 2 has the worst LCD in terms of color reproduction, it is completely yellow...

I see no difference in the camera whatsoever. I believe they are the same hardware, camera wise. As far as the screen, when I set my S3 beside my N2...N2 wins. The pentile of the S3 is just not as good...IMOP.

winwiz said:
Has anyone come from a S3 LTE?
The size puts me off, but I had a play around with one yesterday and absolutely loved it.
Please convince me! lol
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multi tasking (split screen), lets me watch videos and surf the net. Forget that popup video player. It blocks the screen and is more of an annoyance. split screen video watching and web surfing is definitely the real way to do it.
bigger screen. You get used to the size. The S3 starts feeling uncomfortably small in about a week. You want to be using the Note 2 when making that realization.
S Pen...AirView on webpages totally rocks.
S Note...ability to have a device to write on as soon as it is out of your pocket is a big deal.
Battery life...is as good as you can get for a smartphone.
You do have to get used to the size a little. It is uncomfortable in my jeans when walking up stairs and sitting, but it is a small price to pay for an amazing device.

winwiz said:
Has anyone come from a S3 LTE?
The size puts me off, but I had a play around with one yesterday and absolutely loved it.
Please convince me! lol
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If interested I would like to exchange with you, I find it quite big, but absolute beauty.

Lucidmike said:
You do have to get used to the size a little. It is uncomfortable in my jeans when walking up stairs and sitting
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That's what she said!
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dryspuri said:
If interested I would like to exchange with you, I find it quite big, but absolute beauty.
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What have you got bud? I'm after the grey one...PM me!

I also came from the LTE S3. Everything about this phone is better (screen, fluidity, speed, hardware, etc). Go for it if the size doesn't bother you. I love it.
I usually change phones every couple of months, but this may be the only phone I've ever owned that may hold me over until the next version releases.

Also came from the att s3 to the att note 2. You can't compare them. The note 2 smashes the s3 in every way. The screen is so much brighter. The loud speaker is at least twice as good. It's way faster. Everything on this phone is perfect except s note should open faster. I rate it 9.8/10
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Chadly said:
Also came from the att s3 to the att note 2. You can't compare them. The note 2 smashes the s3 in every way. The screen is so much brighter. The loud speaker is at least twice as good. It's way faster. Everything on this phone is perfect except s note should open faster. I rate it 9.8/10
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Actually the screen brightness is identical but it is much faster than a 1gb S3.
Loudspeaker is the best but the most important thing is that the Note 2 will last 8 hours of screen time with no problems!! That is just amazing!

Yeah easily 8 hours. Idk, the note 2 feels much brighter to me for sure.
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I have come back to Note 2 from S4

I got my S4 on day of release, and have just, yesterday, swapped it back for a Note 2 (plus cash).
I had a Note 2 before the S4 and I liked the size of the screen etc.
I was impressed with the S4, but after a while I noticed a few things that actually annoyed me intensely with it.
Battery life is awful. It would last only around 5 hours, and that was not doing a lot, and would drop from 100% to around <10% in such a short time.
The heat issues the S4 have are incredible, especially when charging. I actually wondered if one day the thing would burst in to flames.
It would be uncomfortable to hold at times, especially on a warm day. It seemed to exacerbate the problem.
Another thing, the screen in direct sunlight. Even though it would be set at the highest brightness, it still would not be bright enough, and because it would get warm, it would dim the display more to "save it"
I guess that's AMOLED for ya.
The Note 2 I have now, I got it at around 12 pm yesterday, and after setting it all up how I like it, programs, themes etc, after around 5 hours unplugged, it had only used around 16%. That was after messing with it a lot. Had that been the S4 it would be way down almost out of action and I'd have to charge it again.
So, I'm sad to say, I only had the S4 for 23 days.....
The S4 looks and feels nice in the hand, has some nice features, but I have to say, the Note 2 does it for me due to battery life.

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I believe the Note 2 is the best smartphone at the moment.

He he. Confirms my suspicious that the s4 is not an upgrade from the Note 2.
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Im only will switch if there is any other brand phone that can compete with S pen..so far non......
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Welcome back, I was almost on my way out for the S4 and now I am content with my note2...
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Thanks to this post. I'm sticking with my Note 2.

I believe a major cause of the shorter battery life is due to the 1080p screen, which is existent in other high end phones like htc one and Xperia z. The race for Bigger and higher resolution screens have put battery life to the catch up game. I recalled when I first got the note 1 the battery sucked real bad due to the large screen size albeit 720p.
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Honesty s4 looks like a small cheap toy infront of our mighty note 2.
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Screen issue
"Another thing, the screen in direct sunlight. Even though it would be set at the highest brightness, it still would not be bright enough". This is exactly the same with GNote2. I live in Cannes, France, a really sunny place, and i always have problems with that. If i'm outside, and wanna check my phone, i have to hide in shadows like thief, even if the brightness iss on maximum.

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"Another thing, the screen in direct sunlight. Even though it would be set at the highest brightness, it still would not be bright enough". This is exactly the same with GNote2. I live in Cannes, France, a really sunny place, and i always have problems with that. If i'm outside, and wanna check my phone, i have to hide in shadows like thief, even if the brightness iss on maximum.
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You could always turn on negative colors in accessibility. That works.
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Definitely note 2 is the best smartphone realized till date

Everyone at work is getting s4 and making me doubt note 2. Even though I think I would miss note 2. But threads like this keep me going. S4 is not a update to note 2!
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how have you tried to get back to a HD screen?

Is it just me is the note2/gs4 a great phone tablet combination. Probably even more so when the Google gs4 comes out.
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@rbiter said:
Is it just me is the note2/gs4 a great phone tablet combination. Probably even more so when the Google gs4 comes out.
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No.... note 8 with the S4 GE would be the combo
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pakure said:
No.... note 8 with the S4 GE would be the combo
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any one seen the Xperia Z ultra , allthough it doesnt come with stylus , you can use your regular pen or pencil to write onit ,, but the dowside is its gonna carry only 3000Mah .. so lesser than our beast.. but on the other hand full HD screen with Snapdragon 800

I'm already use n7000 because i have no money for buy n7100,anyone to donate me?
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anirudhks said:
any one seen the Xperia Z ultra , allthough it doesnt come with stylus , you can use your regular pen or pencil to write onit ,, but the dowside is its gonna carry only 3000Mah .. so lesser than our beast.. but on the other hand full HD screen with Snapdragon 800
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FHD is not that big a difference. I can't tell at all post flashing custom kernels in fact. And surprisingly it looks much better than some FHD LCD phones IMO. And regular pen or pencil or even other stylus is not a replacement for S Pen - when it comes to pressure sensitivity, accuracy etc. - with it's wacom digitizer.
And 6.4 inch apparently - too large for my liking. Might as well get a tablet then. By the time it's out, N3 will be out anyway.

[Q] Note 3 or S5 ?

Hey guys. Tomorrow I am going to buy a new phone and I am deciding between S5 and Note 3. I was going to buy the Note 3 when I just notice that In my countru the price of the Note 3 and S5 is absolutely Identical (32GB Note 3 and 16GB S5). So is the screen on the S5 really better or there isn't a big difference and how is the battery life on the both devices ? Is the Camera on the S5 better in low light or its the same as the note 3 ? Is the Speaker in the S5 better ?

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Hey guys. Tomorrow I am going to buy a new phone and I am deciding between S5 and Note 3. I was going to buy the Note 3 when I just notice that In my countru the price of the Note 3 and S5 is absolutely Identical (32GB Note 3 and 16GB S5). So is the screen on the S5 really better or there isn't a big difference and how is the battery life on the both devices ? Is the Camera on the S5 better in low light or its the same as the note 3 ? Is the Speaker in the S5 better ?
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From seeing both at my cellphone carrier's store:
- Note 3 has better speakers, must be because IP67 in S5.
- Screen is better, smaller looks sharper and definitely brighter.
- Can't tell about battery life, haven't had a Note 3 for much time. Reviewers put them in nearly equal terms with slight advantage to the S5 (AnandTech).
- Camera is good, but low light is a weakness... so they most likely are in the same ground. None has OIS.
- Both seem to have poor memory management, Note 3 has 3 GB of RAM though but S5 has newer, faster chipset.
I picked the S5 because of the more recent stock software (Touchwiz in S5 is quite better than the previous iteration IMHO) and the form factor, try them both if possible. The decision is more if you want a phablet or a normal factor.

For latest and 2014 software features and latest hardware go for s5. If u need pen phone and big screen then note 3, but I think note 3 is getting old as it is late 2013 phone. Note 4 is coming with more than s5 soon on September.
So you can wait for it too..
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For latest and 2014 software features and latest hardware go for s5. If u need pen phone and big screen then note 3, but I think note 3 is getting old as it is late 2013 phone. Note 4 is coming with more than s5 soon on September.
So you can wait for it too..
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I was going to buy the S5 yesterday but I saw its back and it looks just awful and the phone feels like a cheap Chinese copy of a real samsung phone. The note 3 feels a bit better (the plastic actually feels like leather) and I like its looks a lot better. But then comes the Software and Hardware that is a lot better on the S5. I am really confused right now

I own both. Personally I much, much prefer the Note 3.
First some advice.
If you've got a few months left to wait, wait to see what the Note 4 is going to be. 1st week of September is when it'll be announced, should start selling early october. Also, the S5 Prime with top-specs is expected somewhere in the middle of the year. Wait for that, if you can. The current S5 is a joke.
So...
The camera on the S5 is a little better, it's IP67 and the colours on the screen are prettier. But that's about it.
The Note has a bigger screen. Yes, the S5 had a more saturated screen, but in my opinion bigger is more useful. Particularly for entertainment or multitasking.
The additional 16GB of internal storage is very, very relevant. 4.4.2 breaks moving apps to the SDcard, so you'll need it (unless you root, which breaks KNOX)
More RAM. 2GB vs 3GB. I know there are some who say "You don't need 2GB(It's actually less than that)". You do. The S5 has some horrendous lag, and the memory runs full very, very quickly.
The S5 has a slightly faster CPU (2.3Ghz vs 2.5Ghz), but the RAM is such a bottleneck that you barely notice the increase in speed. I can't for the life of me figure out why they would use only 2GB.
The Spen. Even if you're not a pen user, it comes with some nifty tools. Particularly the Pen Window is very useful, as it enables you to answer messages without switching away from your film or game. The pen also enables you to use your phone when eating, because you don't have to worry about greasy fingers on the screen.
The camera on the Note 3 is rather crap in low light. And I'm putting that nicely. It looks like an oil painting. The S5 has a slightly bigger sensor, making it a little better in low light.
And then there's the design. I can't help it, the S5 looks to me like something you buy as a toy for your 5 year old niece. It just looks so cheap. (particularly the White one..) At least the Note 3 looks like it costs 700 euro(releaseprice)...
Unless you're a fitness buff, I don't see the point of all those health gimmicks. There are functional heartrate apps that use the flashlight on the Note 3 and match the results of an actualy monitor besides it.
I do have to say the S5 is a little better at surviving drops and bumps. It can handle a bit more rough treatment. The Note 3 is fairly fragile by comparison. So if you lead an active lifestyle or are clumsy, and you don't want a case, an S5 might be a better idea.
All in all, I'd go with the Note 3 anyday. Bu tthat's my personal choice.

ShadowLea said:
I own both. Personally I much, much prefer the Note 3.
All in all, I'd go with the Note 3 anyday. Bu tthat's my personal choice.
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Thanks for the reply. I am going to see them both at my local store and choose then. Also the S5 is kind of hard to find in my country.

niksssss said:
Thanks for the reply. I am going to see them both at my local store and choose then. Also the S5 is kind of hard to find in my country.
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Yes I agree that s5 feels cheap. But I think in mobile business no one company is perfect. Every company have their bad side and their popularity side.
S5 / Samsung don't concentrate on design, but Samsung software is really smart and mostly people like it. Its rich in features like hell.
Like I said every company have down and good side. In mobile business that is the main thing..
HTC and make premium design but simple software. But difference is HTC mostly good in sound music and simplycity but Sony good for camera. So depends upon you. That is business.
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Mandeep148 said:
Yes I agree that s5 feels cheap. But I think in mobile business no one company is perfect. Every company have their bad side and their popularity side.
S5 / Samsung don't concentrate on design, but Samsung software is really smart and mostly people like it. Its rich in features like hell.
Like I said every company have down and good side. In mobile business that is the main thing..
HTC and make premium design but simple software. But difference is HTC mostly good in sound music and simplycity but Sony good for camera. So depends upon you. That is business.
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A good point, but a bit of a moot one, since the choice is between the Samsung Note 3 and the Samsung S5...

Wait for n4 XD
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The problem is that I cant wait. My HTC One broke and now I am using this - http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/30779-xlarge/Nokia-100-3.jpg And I need my phone... not just for games and facebook, but for school. It helps me out a lot. And also phones in my country come a bit late. You can barely find S5 and its been a month since its release.
Also i checked both of the phones in the local store and I am in a even bigger dilemma now I see how the S-pen can come useful, but I find the note 3 a bit big for everyday use. Also The S5 seems kind of slow.. I dont know why but it even seems slower than my HTC One. The camera need a lot of time to open photos after I took them and usually this drives me crazy...
The things most important to me are:
1. Performance
2. Battery
3. Camera
My one usually did the job with the battery and the performance but the camera wasn't what I expected. It takes great shots but 4MP isnt enough for zooming and I often need to zoom my photos to read some text or other...

niksssss said:
The problem is that I cant wait. My HTC One broke and now I am using this - http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/phones/30779-xlarge/Nokia-100-3.jpg And I need my phone... not just for games and facebook, but for school. It helps me out a lot. And also phones in my country come a bit late. You can barely find S5 and its been a month since its release.
Also i checked both of the phones in the local store and I am in a even bigger dilemma now I see how the S-pen can come useful, but I find the note 3 a bit big for everyday use. Also The S5 seems kind of slow.. I dont know why but it even seems slower than my HTC One. The camera need a lot of time to open photos after I took them and usually this drives me crazy...
The things most important to me are:
1. Performance
2. Battery
3. Camera
My one usually did the job with the battery and the performance but the camera wasn't what I expected. It takes great shots but 4MP isnt enough for zooming and I often need to zoom my photos to read some text or other...
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Get n3 if you can't wait.
Also make sure you get snapdragon version of it, exynos sucks big time. I was looking forward to n3 but didn't buy because SD ain't available in my country.
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S5 easy for one hand use. Note 3 is too big
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For you to compare:
http://blog.laptopmag.com/galaxy-s5-vs-note-3

The 32GB of the Note3 is good. The S5 is easy to find in 16Gb but 32GB would be better but hard to find and more expensive. Go with Note3 or wait for N4. Also consider OnePlus one or Oppo Find if you can wait.
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Are You serious? Once time You will taste 5 inch + screen You will stay with it forever, if I had to choose s5 and note1 I will take note1.Spen is powerfull.. Actually I Got note2 and im not even thinking about s4/s5. Im thinking about note4,
You will use it at school, take note, even the name of phone is an answer, Im making my lessons on that phone,
sorry for my English im not the Best at it
And sometimes it works like magnet for girls..
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Get the note 3 if you dont mind a larger device. basically get the same phone, minus finger print sensor and heartrate monitor. Except you can get 32gb for the price of 16gb.

graco2213 said:
Are You serious? Once time You will taste 5 inch + screen You will stay with it forever,
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but S5 is also a 5 inch + screen lol...

Just go for the latest.
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Hmmm... If you have issues with your own "size", go with the note 3, just as you did when you got the big screen and truck. Or if you're a "size queen" as they're called, go for a note 3. But if you like the finger print gimmick, I pretty much do, or like me sometimes find yourself on hallucinogenic escapades that take you at times in the rain, shower/bath or under waterfalls, the ip6 whatever the rest of it is, will come in handy. Man, everyone talking about the lag, I sure wish I didn't agree. There must be a solution. Off to another sub forum. I want to find the solution. Chime in if any of you know of a rom/trick that speeds this phone up.
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Guys. Thanks for the info but I already got the S5. I got it becouse it's a bit smaller device and the Note 3's camera in low light is alful. Also note 3 has 13MP but you can use the camera in 16:9 aspect ratio only on 10MP. On the S5 the 16MP are 16:9. I will miss the s-pen but thats the only thing that I will miss. I also got the s5 becouse I think that it will recieve faster updates. I find the S5 a bit slow (even slower than my one) and also not a big fan of touchwiz. (I didnt think that I will miss sense so much) But overall im happy with the S5 becouse the battery lasts more than twice than my old HTC one and the battery was the most important thing to me.
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Full review Note 4

You be the judge. http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-4-hands-on/
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Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.

dligon said:
Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.
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I was hoping it would be waterproof. Not sure if I want the increase resolutions at the expense of battery life.

I'll stick with my Note 3.
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dligon said:
Looks good. I'm not sure why some people are complaining about it being the same size 5.7 as the note 3 why would you make it bigger. next everyone will be walking around with 70" flat screens up to their heads.
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Ha ha that would be a site. I'm with you. The screen is big enough for me.
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Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying another Samsung!
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jeraldbro said:
Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying another Samsung!
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Well you might as well get used to the bootloader never being unlocked. This is becoming the norm pretty soon you won't find any phones with a unlocked bootloader. The only reason I want it unlocked would be for customized kernel support for better battery life far as ROM I'm fine with stock with a little of the bloat taken off the top. Never understood the ones that buy the Note series and just turn it into a oversize S5 why get it when you don't have the s-pen function or use the s-pen?

Wow iSamsung!? That's more of a software update to the note 3 with a worse battery life. No thank you. My note 3 is better.

K-Alzwayed said:
Wow iSamsung!? That's more of a software update to the note 3 with a worse battery life. No thank you. My note 3 is better.
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I agree with you totally, its more of a software update and more megapixels to the camera, I think all of that can be baked into our note 3, by our developers, not too exited about upgrading to the note 4, and I also expected water resistant.

Yup. With all the kickass devs we have here from Bri, RErick, Mega....and you count, yes, our note 3 is soon going to be a note 4 without the heartbeat sensor that I'd never use. Lol

dligon said:
Well you might as well get used to the bootloader never being unlocked. This is becoming the norm pretty soon you won't find any phones with a unlocked bootloader. The only reason I want it unlocked would be for customized kernel support for better battery life far as ROM I'm fine with stock with a little of the bloat taken off the top. Never understood the ones that buy the Note series and just turn it into a oversize S5 why get it when you don't have the s-pen function or use the s-pen?
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On at&t they will always be locked. Same with verizon. Tmobile version wont be locked down. I boycotted sammy long ago. My next device will either be the xnomi mi4 or the nexus 6.

I'll pass. The Note 4 turned out like the S5. It's just a "plus" version with no major improvements. In some ways I feel the Note 3 is superior.

As has been said… same phone, minimal improvements. Unless the display is truly that much more impressive I can't justifiably use my two year upgrade to purchase an incremental improvement. With the snapdragon 810 around the corner in 2015 people would just be kicking themselves getting this hardware. Samsung is so bent on beating apple to the punch they shot themselves in the foot by not joining the 64 bit game on this hardware revision. I'm going to wait for android L and all of the things that come with 64 bit goodness.
As cool as the note edge looks, it looks like an expensive, flashy gimmick that will serve no real purpose other than being a footnote in the history of smartphone creation.
That being said, I still love my s pen, and will reserve my final judgments until I have seen them hands on but, like the S5, my first impression is one of thorough disappointment. Go home, samsung. You're drunk.

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On at&t they will always be locked. Same with verizon. Tmobile version wont be locked down. I boycotted sammy long ago. My next device will either be the xnomi mi4 or the nexus 6.
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That's why I'm probably getting the note 4 but I'm ditching att and going to tmobile. Ha ha
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I love the metal and the screen!
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I love the medal and the screen!
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I've always liked the metal on the phone too. Ever since I saw it on the iPhone.
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I had to fix my spelling.. Medal.. lol
Years ago I had this HTC clone that had a metal removable back and have always wanted something similar.
If I could get one of these under $700 unlocked I would grab it. As it is I'll most likely be going with the g3 for under $600.. Wish it was metal though.
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Personally I see the Note 4 as big a step forward over the Note 3 as it was over the Note 2 (which IMO was considerable). I've owned the Note 2 and Note 3. It fixes the weak areas of the Note 3 and frankly seems to be a phone with no compromises.
- the metal frame alone is a big deal to me - I HATE the chrome plastic frame of the Note 3. Button feel is supposed to be much better as well.
- the Note 3 screen is good but not great. It's still a touch dim compared to the best LCDs and whites are not quite white yet. If the S5 LTE-A 1440p screen is any indicator, both these areas will be noticeably better than the Note 3 screen. And battery life on the LTE-A with the S805 didn't decrease at all vs. the normal S5 with the same battery size.
- The camera needed to get better - the Note 3 is not great indoors and bad in low light. I end up using my wife's iPhone in low light situations.
- Personally I like the fingerprint scanner (even if it's not as good as TouchID) since my work enforces a password unlock to use it for BYOD.

I'm definitely disappointed. I was hoping for the same water resistant goodness of the s5, and I'm thoroughly dumbfounded as to why Sammy left it out both versions of the new Notes. Love the outward design as far as the metal goes, though. This was more update than upgrade by far. Consider the ball dropped.
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And they could've pushed the 3rd side of the Note edge's bezel back a mm or two... Seems too slim for me

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