Stuck on Moto logo for any ROM - Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

No matter what ROM I load, my green-lens Defy gets stuck on the Moto logo and recovery is no longer accessible, requiring a full SBF to restore. I've tried starting with US TMo 2.1 as well as CEE 2.2.2, and after loading the SBF, I root with either SuperOneClick v2.3.1, or Framaroot, then install 2ndInit 2.3, and then disable USB debug. Up to this point, everything works great and CWM is fully accessible on boot. But attempting to load any custom ROM will result in the stuck moto logo and recovery no longer accessible. I've tried all the wipes before and after installing ROMs, including the defy_fullwipe script, and factory reset. Also tried reformatting the SD. Any ideas??? I can't think of what to try next.
This all started when I recently decided to try MS2Ginger5.1, after successfully running CM7.x for years. MS2Ginger refused to install, so I read that TWRP was needed, so I loaded defy_twrp_recovery_2.6.3.0, and retried MS2Ginger5.1. The installation seemed to proceed and complete normally, however, ever since, my Defy gets stuck Moto logo and no recovery access after loading any ROM, including CM7.2.
Thanks for suggestions - this may be the end of the road for my trusty Defy :crying:

Since when do you need to install twrp 2.3.6.0 in order to install a gingerbread rom? Install the last version of 2ndinit then install msginger, or if you update to twrp 2.3.6.0 flash a kitkat rom
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DiegoxG said:
Since when do you need to install twrp 2.3.6.0 in order to install a gingerbread rom? Install the last version of 2ndinit then install msginger, or if you update to twrp 2.3.6.0 flash a kitkat rom
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Right, TWRP is definitely NOT required to install MS2Ginger, it was just a suggestion which worked for somebody else. I did also try installing kitkat from TWRP (Slim 4.4.2.build.4), but same problem, install seemed to complete normally, but after restarting, stuck at the Moto logo and no recovery

There's something you're doing wrong, your defy is not messed up, maybe if you follow the kitkat guide im the General Section just to try, you can get your phone working
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DiegoxG said:
There's something you're doing wrong, your defy is not messed up, maybe if you follow the kitkat guide im the General Section just to try, you can get your phone working
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Followed Quarx's KitKat post and Proverbs2's FAQ to a T, for both CM11 and SlimKat, but neither would boot. In both cases, the ROM would install successfully according to TWRP, and the CM11 or Slim recovery screen would load on reboot, but choosing the option to continue booting, the screen just went black and nothing. The good thing, is that upon restart, it was still possible to enter recovery, so I was able to try several ROMs thanks to safewipe, but nothing would boot after installation. Even so, I eventually ended up back at the stuck Moto Logo and had to RSDlite the CEE full SBF. I have flashed a lot of ROMs over the years, so I don't think I'm doing something wrong, but maybe...
Does starting with a full SBF guarantee there's not some kind of issue with the formatting of /system?

Have you tried with the nordic sbf? It's quite strange because you can run the stock flash without issues.
I know you already followed the guides and everything, but I'm gonna tell you my steps:
1. Flash sbf with rsdlite (in my case it's a bl7 2.3 miui based, already rooted)
2. Flash twrp recovery 2.6.3.0
3. safewipe.zip
4. Flash CM11, boot, then flash gapps.
Maybe your problem could be because of your sbf, here is the nordic sbf, android 2.2.2
http://depositfiles.org/files/dcjx19kb8
That's all I can help you mate
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SOLVED!
OMG, I had just about given up, but the microSD card I was using was at fault. The offending card was a Sandisk Ultra, 16GB HC1. I've been using that Sandisk card in an HD camcorder for months without issue, but for whatever reason the card is not compatible with the Defy during the flashing process. I switched to an 8GB Kingston Class 4, and everything's working again. Anyway, thanks for the suggestions; hopefully this thread will help somebody else.

My experience with [4.4.2] SlimKat (jordan) [STABLE 4.0] [Weekly 3.85] [Unofficial]
CHRIS 5-8-14
phone ok-bt ok(reboot to remove sign when closed)-gps no good sensitivity on copilot 9.5-on igo ok-too late to boot(about 3-4 secs)
some problems with sd card not find(0mb) in twrp,sinse works good on phone
and pc(card changed with toshiba 4 gb all ok,before sandisk 8gb,lexar 16 gb,kingstone 8gb not recognised in twrp),depends it from size???- some not often reboots-backup via twrp 90b??????????
waiting for battery response.But is a good rom.
istallation (in my defy mb525)
if you are comming from another rom, From stock rec (pwr +vol down)wipe data factory reset,open RSD LITE V5.6,enter bl mode(pwr+
vol up)
1)flash sbf 2.2.2 VIA RSD LITE V5.6(otherwise you have M or ANDROID
boot loop)
2)root(i used Gingerbreakv1.20)
3)install 2nd init 1.4.2
4)via cwm 2.5 installed with 2nd init flash twrp 2.6.3.0.0
5)wipe data/casche/system
6)flash rom
7)flash gaps(i flashed,minimal_Slim_AIO_gapps.4.4.2.build.4.6)
reboot(too long)
if you have boot loop on M or ANDROID do: From stock rec (pwr +vol down)wipe data factory reset

granazis said:
CHRIS 5-8-14
phone ok-bt ok(reboot to remove sign when closed)-gps no good sensitivity on copilot 9.5-on igo ok-too late to boot(about 3-4 secs)
some problems with sd card not find(0mb) in twrp,sinse works good on phone
and pc(card changed with toshiba 4 gb all ok,before sandisk 8gb,lexar 16 gb,kingstone 8gb not recognised in twrp),depends it from size???- some not often reboots-backup via twrp 90b??????????
waiting for battery response.But is a good rom.
istallation (in my defy mb525)
if you are comming from another rom, From stock rec (pwr +vol down)wipe data factory reset,open RSD LITE V5.6,enter bl mode(pwr+
vol up)
1)flash sbf 2.2.2 VIA RSD LITE V5.6(otherwise you have M or ANDROID
boot loop)
2)root(i used Gingerbreakv1.20)
3)install 2nd init 1.4.2
4)via cwm 2.5 installed with 2nd init flash twrp 2.6.3.0.0
5)wipe data/casche/system
6)flash rom
7)flash gaps(i flashed,minimal_Slim_AIO_gapps.4.4.2.build.4.6)
reboot(too long)
if you have boot loop on M or ANDROID do: From stock rec (pwr +vol down)wipe data factory reset
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[/QUOTE]I have some problems with sd card, not find(0mb) in twrp,sinse works good on phone
and pc(card changed with toshiba 4 gb all ok,before sandisk 8gb,lexar 16 gb,kingstone 8gb not recognised in twrp),i am wondering what is hapening,its the first time that i encounter this problem.I have load a lot of custom roms for years but i didnt found such a problem.This happens with this rom ( [ROM] [4.4.2] SlimKat (jordan) [STABLE 4.0] [Weekly 3.85] [Unofficial]) I had also propblem with backinkup and restore the rom but solved via online Nandroid pro app from play store.Please can anyone help me and explain whats the reason for this problem?(for cards i mean)
I hope to a reply.Thanks
NOTE:my phones,moto g,moto defy,bberry,iphone 4s, sony st15i.

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[Q] defy+ stuck on boot logo

Hi, i have defy+ (mb526)
android version: 2.3.7
kernell: 2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8
cyanogenMod-7.1..0-jordan
Gingerbread GWK74
I want to flash CM 7.2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1445259) but after flash rom, I stuck on boot logo, i wait 30minut, reboot, wait, reboot... but without succes.
You must delete the user data of your previous rom first. Go to CWM Recovery and choose 'wipe data/factory reset'. This will remove all your user data (apps, app data, settings etc.) so you should have a backup if you want to keep the data!
i try this, but without succes. I'am still on boot logo (google) :-(
Dobre den,
There is something wrong in your phone setting : the kernel you mention in your first post (2.6.32.9-gb08c3c8) is a Froyo kernel and your phone (MB526) has a GB bootloader who only accept GB kernel...
So I think the best for you is to flash a full GB SBF via RSDLite before flashing the CM 7.2 Defy+.
Nashle...;-)
This has happened to me... A LOT. the way i fixed it was to redownload CM7 from the pc, because something went wrong the first time.
mankymoo said:
This has happened to me... A LOT. the way i fixed it was to redownload CM7 from the pc, because something went wrong the first time.
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Your phone is a Defy or a Defy+ ? because I'm not sure you help a lot with this kind of answers.
Thanx, after flash ful SBF GB via RSDlite, everything is OK
I have q defy, however the filestructure is almost exactly the same and a fresh install of anything is the key (usually) to fix any problem... therefore I tend to ask them to do that before anything else
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stuck on bootlogo
i have defy+ (stock 2.3.6 - 4.5.1-134_DFP-1321)
rooted & flashed Quarx's 3 Mach ICS CM9 nightly..
i tried to update that but i guess i flashed some wrong zip in recovery & phone showed some bootloader error..
so i flashed full sbf via RSDlite to return to my stock rom..after flashing is complete, rsdlite reboots my phone, phone is stuck on motorola bootlogo & rsdlite shows "please manually powerup this phone"..still connected to usb..even when i disconnect phone from usb, phone keeps rebooting & stuck on bootlogo..
update
clearing data/cache in stock recovery solved the problem..back on CM9

Bootloop, SBF issue >please help

I accidentaly installed the CM9 kernel when i should have installed the CM7 one with ICS. Then i made a nandroid restore of my previous CM7. Than... phone dead. Starting but no CWM no ROM booting.
As i have had CM7 with GB kernel( i think) i flashed ( not knowing) an old SBF than didn't booted. I tried the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 T-Mobile It boots, i can root it, install CWM.
But than when i try to install a CM7 nightly ( installed ok) it dies again. Starts but No CWM no Rom booting.
What to do? I don't know what SBF to flash or what method to install?
Problem update I red that the above SBF has a CG Version 3: SBF 2.51 (Éclair) (Defy) so i installed several CG Version 4: SBF 3.4.2 (Froyo) (Defy).
They don't work. RSD says PASS but phone is dead .No stock recovery no boot. Only way to get it back to life is if i flash the eclair again.
I red that if i get a back screen when booting i have installed a lower CG version. As i tested with version 4, version 5 GB is the only option. I didn't try it out because there are some issues. Froyo would have been much more easier.
i think many readers of your post are getting problems with understanding your problem ...
you got a stock defy, rooted it, installed 2ndinit via apk, booted into recovery (vol- at blue led) and installed CM7 zip ??? correct ???
after succesfull install of CM7 your phone doesn't turn on? Black screen?
black screen after zip is (i think) impossible ... but i can fail ...
i would like to help you, but first you have to give the detailed steps you did and what you wanted to do ...
To make it simplier
I installed the JORDN_U3_97.21.51 T-Mobile (which is 2.1 update1) It boots, i can root it, install 2nd-init > CWM. Set Normal boot.
Than in CWM nothing works.
Installing a CM7 nightly, or restoring a CWM backup.
I install a CM7 nightly like this> In CWM> Custom Recovery> Wipe data, wipe cache> install Cm7 zip, install Gaaps zip. After this, phone restarts, screen is on, logo appears and i wait and wait. Nothing happens.
Do i have to install a special CM7 build?
The CWM backup does not restore. It says that files are missing ( like android.secure..) I am not interested in keeping downgrade ability. i would like to try another SBF. I am not 100% sure what SBF to use from the wiki page.
I red that the SBF i installed has some special "problems" here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=905371. They are talking of a CWM revoery app by tenfair here> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=875233
Maybe that works^. Will try it after the phone is fully charged.
so, ok ... thats detailed as i wish
ok, the problem is clear i think ... first of all eclair is not a nice system for a defy ... upgrade to froyo or even gingerbread ... (keep in mind, that GB has problems with green lens camera) ...
than you can root it with SuperOneClick e.g. ... if this is running correctly, you can install 2ndinit via apk ... then boot, vol- while blue led (i know, you know how ) ... in that clockworkmod recovery you can wipe the devices data and cache partition (even wipe dalvik cache in advanced menu) ... then install CM7.2-nightly-.... .zip ... you may have to flash an fixed sbf with the nessesary kernel for CM7 at this point to boot ...
if this is working fine, you can install the gapps.zip via recovery ...
also try to set boot to 2ndinit in boot-menu ... i don't think it's "normal" boot for CM7 ... but i can't try at the moment cause of my bricked defy ...
Thanks for the reply.
The problem is that i can't install other Froyo SBF's. Will try Gingerbread SBF. The last froyo didn't boot, will try a new one. Weird, i know. Maybe someone can tell me which CM7 to flash? An older one with Kernel ? I didn't think the install would be so tricky.
Froyo Full-SBF doesn't boot on your defy?
be aware of flashing Gingerbread then ... if GB doesn't boot, you will have a problem downgrading to froyo / eclair ...
it sonds crazy, that froyo isn't booting on your device ... have you done a full wipe after froyo sbf? it's important ...
I'm on the Eclair SBF right now. What should i do? Go into recovery and do a wipe or install a new Froyo SBF? It's about the CG value maybe. I understand the mechanism but don't know how to check the CG value. If i search for my current eclair SBF i get all sorts of weird stuff. Nevertheless i will try and try until i succeed. It took me a while to figure out the Rooting method. Superoneclick does not work. It's a special method for the 2.51.
The thing is that i wanted to go the my Nordic SBF( the one Quarx used during the first days of CM7) and it didn't booted. That's why i tried this one. Funny ho flashing the wrong kernel(CM9 instead of CM7) can brake things like this. What i don't understand is how my CWM backup didn't restore. It restored well, finished, then phone dead. No CWM.
edit: i just red: 2.51 is Not downgradable. But no downgrade to what??? Will try to some Froyo SBF's, see if works. But that does not solve my CM7 issues.
Tried a few Froyo SBF's. Wiped data/cache in Stock Recovery. RSD says PASS than phone does not boot. Only the 21.51 eclair works all the time.....Where next?
Update 2 got it to work with this>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1486731&highlight=cg
OMG i dn't understand what was going on with your defy, but i'm happy to know your on the road again
the only sbf that are running are the stock eclair you have (21.51) and the modded BL6 with Froyo Kernel ???
Glad it worked.
DJ_Synergy said:
OMG i dn't understand what was going on with your defy, but i'm happy to know your on the road again
the only sbf that are running are the stock eclair you have (21.51) and the modded BL6 with Froyo Kernel ???
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Yes but now i am running CM9 flawlessly. So happy. The only thing that bothers me is the Chinese Boot screen )). But that can be changed. It's great that one SBF works, moded or not. I tried like 6,7 other Stock sbf's before. So a message to whom tries to install SBF's: Stay away from JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF. Even the Rooting method is awful (until you find it) .
HI Deonix, I have the similar problem. However I am unable to use RSDlite as it gives a failure messg when u click start. I tried JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1.7.sbf and JRDNEM_U3_2.59.0_CHN_P3_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B50AA028.0R_USAJORDANRTINT15_P003_A020_HWp3_Service1FF.sbf.
Both failed, I will try using the rsdlite after the cache and factory rest this time based on your suggestions. Can you tell, if your adb command was listing your device, as mine is not.
my CWM is also gone I get some old android recovery system 3e instead which fails after signature check.
Hi,
I think I know what is your problem.
I also installed the firmware JORDN_U3_97.21.51 and now I can only install any Custom ROM after installing the firmware fix for JORDN_U3_97.21.51.
I did upload it for you: http://www.4shared.com/rar/o02VEk_v/firmware.html?refurl=d1url
It is the following:
Install JORDN_U3_97.21.51;
Rootear;
Install the Recovery;
Install the fix;
enter the recovery and install any rom you want, remembering to delete the caches (data and Dalvik cache)
ps: have 100% of the battery before installing the SBF.
any problems let me know.
Sometimes you could get stuck in a bootloop and all you need to do is pull battery and reboot
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Same Problem, Please help!
Deonix said:
Yes but now i am running CM9 flawlessly. So happy. The only thing that bothers me is the Chinese Boot screen )). But that can be changed. It's great that one SBF works, moded or not. I tried like 6,7 other Stock sbf's before. So a message to whom tries to install SBF's: Stay away from JORDN_U3_97.21.51 SBF. Even the Rooting method is awful (until you find it) .
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Hey bro.
Even i have got the Defy working, but its not detecting the device when connected to the computer, i have done all the basic troubleshooting, is it working for you??
is it bcoz this room is for ME525??

[Q] All ROMs are failing

Hi all!
Almost all ROMs out there are failing to work correctly or even boot on my Defy (red lens). Some do boot, some go to bootloop.
Here's the full story. Two days ago the latest CM10 nightly from Quarx went to bootloop, it was working just fine, but at some point the phone rebooted and didn't boot back up.
I've decided to try another ROM and installed WIUI v4 (JB) from CWM. I went to check device's internal memory and it appeared that I had 48 MB used and that that was all internal memory - the system hasn't even loaded total memory info.
I performed some search and found this thread with the similar issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1940503
It suggested flashing an SBF via RSD Lite. I did that using the SBF from that thread (2.2 CEE Froyo). I suppose that was my mistake since the thread referred to Defy with a green lens. However, I was finally able to boot the device. I decided to try another SBF. JRDNEM_U3_3.4.2_179-002_DEBLUR_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDN to be precise. Everything went just fine. I was able to root the device, install CWM using SndInitDefy 2.0, and install stable CM7 (the official one, update-cm-7.1.0-jordan-signed.zip) and Froyo kernel from WIUI.
Everything was working fine except for the camera. It was showing the following error:
"Camera error. Cannot connect to camera"
After that I though that maybe I've messed up with SBF versions. The phone is not sold in Ukraine officially and I didn't remember which SBF it used when it was shipped.
I then followed the guide from All-in-one beginners guide and installed that Chinese SBF with Version 5 CG (thus I presume I can't flash any full SBF now since this will cause a black screen and I will have to re-flash 97.21.51 SBF and do all that stuff all over). Again, I was able to root the phone and stuff. However, none of Quarx's nightlies are working, CM7.2 or 2nd-boot CM10 are simply bootlooping, WIUI v4 can't connect to any of Google's services (they constantly FC), and none of the ROMs can connect to the camera.
Currently I'm using the following:
official CM7.1.0
Android 2.3.7
kernel [email protected] #1
Build number Gingerbread GWK74
I'm okay with staying on CM7.1, but I require the camera to work. So, the question is, what should be done in order to make the camera work?
Maybe, I should change some lib files, if so, could you please provide with the link to the correct ones? I've already tried some camera fix SBF's but they didn't seem to work. If there is any additional information required, please let me know.
Any help will be really appreciated!
Thank you in advance.
Maybe you could get rid of the sbf problem(camera issue caused by wrong flashing) by flashing a defyplus sbf with group code 6. Then your camera should work.
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Thanks, thekguy! Will try this later today.
Nope, that didn't work, unfortunately. Flashed 4.5.1-134_DFP-125, but the camera is still failing, as well as the latest CM10. Any suggestions are welcome.
Hmm, latest cm10 2ndboot right? That's a very bad sign, since that rom indeed works with both the camera modules, and its really curious that it's not working.
Flash back to any defy bl6 sbf from this list(don't flash defy+ sbf since that approach isn't working):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966537
Wipe data, and use the defy ultimate wiper script(it's there in themes and apps section, use ext4 version if you're on cm10 or ext3 for any other rom).
Now flash cm10 2ndboot build, and try using the camera.
Normally that should work, even if you have a green lens module, but if not so then it could be add a result of a hardware failure
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Yeah, I've also tried CM7 for Defy+, but that didn't work either. And I guess I pushed my device few steps closer to the brick yesterday. I flashed one of Chinese SBFs (JRDNEM_U3_3.4.3-36-1_CHINESE_SIGN_SIGNED_UCAJRDNEMARAB1B80AA03A.0R_PDS03C_USAJRDNFRYORTINT_P011_A013_HWp3_Service1FF). It's BL7 SBF and it's known for its outstanding unbricking abilities. Didn't work for me. However, the bootloader is still accessible and I will keep playing with the phone today.
I'm getting tired of all this.
Didn't work? Camera or unable to boot?
Remember, you must wipe data from stock recovery before you can boot into the stock rom
Once you are running on the stock rom, check if the camera works. If not then follow my other post about getting to cm10 2ndboot. It may hang once on boot but it will boot after that. If still the camera is not working then I'm afraid it's beyond help
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Didn't work? Camera or unable to boot?
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Didn't boot at all, just a blank black screen. I can't enter stock recovery and the bootloader is not visible. However, if I boot up with power+vol+ and connect the phone to the desktop, RSD Lite detects the phone and I can flash an SBF. But my guess is that this would be useless since the last SBF I flashed was BL7.
Well, I'm at work right now, thus I can't try anything out right now. Theoretically, I should be able to flash any SBF with BL7, and root it using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542956
Then, flash both sbfs from that guide, and it should work.
You shouldn't get any blank screen, simply because you've got the highest possible group code, and you cannot have a wrong kernel just after flashing the sbf. It must work
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Thanks. Will definitely give it a try once I get home.
OK, I've managed to install 4.5.1-134 DFP-231 Retail.en.EU CEE, root it, and flashed CM10 2nd-boot nightly. However, I'm still unable to boot the phone. It shows CM10 logo spinning for 10-20 seconds and then reboots. I assume that this is the only ROM which can make the camera work. Am I right? If yes, what should I check or do in order to fix the boot looping? If I can use some other ROM, could you please let me know which one exactly and what can be done in order to fix the camera?
Thank you!
Just flashed CM10 and checked the log, there's the following message:
set_perm: chown of /system/xbin/tcpdump to 0 0 failed: No such file or directory
set_perm: chmod of /system/xbin/tcpdump to 6755 failed: No such file or directory
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Could this be a source of the problem?
Another update. I've installed WIUI v4 for GB kernel and looks like it requires less internal memory/RAM to run so I'm able to boot the phone completely. And it's showing that I have 0.00 MB of internal storage in total and 58 MB used. I guess internal memory issue is somehow related to the bootloop.
Before flashing cm10, use both the ultimate wiper scripts(ext4 and ext3 version)
After flashing cm10, go back to boot menu and select tools, file system tools and format to ext4. It should boot now
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Thanks for the clue, but I'm afraid that didn't work. Since I had some time and have no data to lose, I wiped the phone from stock recovery, flashed both standard 4.5.1-134 DFP-231 and rooted 4.5.1-134 DFP-231, wiped everything using both ext3 and ext4 Ultimate scripts, flashed Quarx's 2nd boot CM10, formatted data and cache to ext4 using File System tools. CM10 still bootloops, but at least now I have internal memory info displayed correctly in WIUI v4 (JB). But since it's not a 2nd boot ROM, the camera isn't working.
In fact, I've tried some other 2nd boot scripts (NEGAN-6DIC and Codenameandroid 3.6.6), but they are bootlooping as well.
Maybe there are some other 2nd boot ROMs I should check? Or maybe if I get a nandroid backup of a working system I could restore it on my phone?
Try converting to ext4 and flash after that. It is really curious why it bootloops. You must get cm10 to boot, so that the camera works. Look here for downloading a stock kernel that should hopefully fix the boot loops.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909242
Scroll down for the post which talks about having a compatible stock kernel which should allow 2ndboot to work(it's titled for bl7 users).
Flash this kernel after stock sbf flash, then try installing cm10.
Let's see how this goes
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Still no joy. Neither formatting, nor following this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909242 worked. Is there a way to see boot log from a desktop? I have both Debian and Win7 on my desktop.
Thanks.
There is a way to debug using uart, but I have no experience with it. So, sbf flash+ compatible stock kernel failed? Please describe the boot loop. Does it reach the cyanogenmod logo? Or stuck at red Motorola logo? I am at my wits end at this one. All my semi bricks and other problems I could fix by the methods outlined in my previous posts, but they don't seem to work in your case. You flash full sbfs right? And are you able to boot the stock Rom?
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Here's how it loops:
- the phone starts
- shows red Moto logo
- blue led
- red led
- blank black screen
- HW buttons blink once
- CM10 spins for approx 5-10 seconds
- the phone restarts and all the steps repeat
Yes, I'm able to flash full SBF (BL7 ones). I'm able to boot into a stock ROM, I can flash modded SBF for BL7 (the rooted one). I've tried flashing CM10 SBF, but the phone booted into a bootloader and showed an error, with set of numbers. Looks like because of the kernel (my guess is that SBF contains non-2nd boot version of CM10).
If I install WIUI v4 right after I flash rooted SBF I have no issues with the internal storage.
If I install 2nd boot CM10 (Kayant's, Quarx's) I get a boot loop (Ultimate Wipe doesn't help)
If I install WIUI v4 after CM10 (without re-flashing SBF's), I get 0.00 internal storage, but wiping data/cache from stock recovery solves the issue.
Unfortunately, wiping data/cache from stock recovery doesn't do the trick for CM10 2nd boot builds.
One more thing, after I flash CM10 and try to wipe data/cache from stock recovery for the first time, it shows recover log errors. There are errors when entering stock recovery after that.
Might be a false trail, but what about wiping from custom recovery? Dalvik cache wipe?
This indicates that the kernel had loaded before some other problem caused the phone to enter into boot loop. What about the camera in the stock build? Same error as before?:banghead:
The cm10 sbf probably had a lower group code(bl6 perhaps) hence that approach won't work, and even discarding that it will yield the same results as before.
Also, in stock, check if the kernel version changes after you flash the compatible stock kernel from the thread I had mentioned earlier. This is important because otherwise there is no chance for cm10 to boot.
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[Q] Can't load after downgrade to 7.2 Jordan

Hi all
I use to run cm-7.2 Jordan without any issues. Decided however to upgrade and test cm10 but since I didn't find it stable enough I decided to downgrade back to 7.2. The flash succeed without issues but when I reboot I get stuck with the Google logo and the os never boot up.
I tried to go through cm.7.1 but no luck there, same issue.
Any clue how i can resolve this?
llavsor said:
Hi all
I use to run cm-7.2 Jordan without any issues. Decided however to upgrade and test cm10 but since I didn't find it stable enough I decided to downgrade back to 7.2. The flash succeed without issues but when I reboot I get stuck with the Google logo and the os never boot up.
I tried to go through cm.7.1 but no luck there, same issue.
Any clue how i can resolve this?
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Try to wipe all from stock recovery ----> Power+Vol dwn
Kayant said:
Try to wipe all from stock recovery ----> Power+Vol dwn
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Thanks for quick reply. I tried that and the phone loaded a android character with a triangle and a exclamation mark. I don't have a good feeling about that
llavsor said:
Thanks for quick reply. I tried that and the phone loaded a android character with a triangle and a exclamation mark. I don't have a good feeling about that
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That's good sorry forget to say you need to hold VOL dwn& Vol Up at the same time then wipe all...
Good luck
Exactly the same problem here, cannot downgrade to CM7.
Any good news?
Flash official froyo (I used ver 2.2.2)sbf via rsdlite. Root it using superoneclick and install 2init bootmenu 2.0. In custom recovery do full factory wipe follow with restore your nandroid 7.2 if you have them. If it booting hang at start screen, flash any froyo fixed sbf that contain the froyo kernel(optional). This way all your previous user data will still be intact.
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So the recovery won't work and will have to start with SBF. Will wait until I have the computer environment to do so.
Thanks!
Kayant said:
Try to wipe all from stock recovery ----> Power+Vol dwn
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farsight73 said:
Flash official froyo (I used ver 2.2.2)sbf via rsdlite. Root it using superoneclick and install 2init bootmenu 2.0. In custom recovery do full factory wipe follow with restore your nandroid 7.2 if you have them. If it booting hang at start screen, flash any froyo fixed sbf that contain the froyo kernel(optional). This way all your previous user data will still be intact.
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Okey I have now flashed 2.2.2 sbf with RSDlite and after flash the phone still hangs during boot, now with the ugly Motoroly M instead of the Google logo from CM. So I guess I am back to square one, any idean anyone
llavsor said:
Okey I have now flashed 2.2.2 sbf with RSDlite and after flash the phone still hangs during boot, now with the ugly Motoroly M instead of the Google logo from CM. So I guess I am back to square one, any idean anyone
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Wipe all from stock recovery that's you needed to do btw before installing cm7.... Sbf is not needed.
Go to stock recovery and wipe all your ROM should boot...
Let's Go ^_^
llavsor said:
Okey I have now flashed 2.2.2 sbf with RSDlite and after flash the phone still hangs during boot, now with the ugly Motoroly M instead of the Google logo from CM. So I guess I am back to square one, any idean anyone
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Factory reset from stock bootmenu again. If it still hangs, flash sbf again with another factory reset afterwards just to be safe. BTW, I've had times where 3+ sbf flashes with factory resets were needed to get the phone to boot again.
One problem you might be having is if you formatted /data and /cache to ext4. Maybe it was just me, but I had to reinstall CM10, change back to ext3, flash sbf, then install CM7. Changing to ext3 and flashing CM7 didn't work -- same problem you're having. I wasn't sure if ext4 was the problem so I made sure I changed back to ext3 before sbf flashing. I'm not sure if the sbf reformats the partitions or just wipes them like a factory reset. If you've already flashed the sbf, then you can't install a CM10 rom to change back to ext3... Worse come to worse, you maybe able to install one of the custom sbf's with CM10 custom kernel preinstalled, change to ext3, flash official sbf, factory reset, then install CM7. I haven't looked into them because I make my own custom sbf's .
Bravo users are having this exact problem and my solution is to ensure that /data and /cache are ext3, flash the sbf and start from scratch -- the only guaranteed way I know of to fix this problem. Another Bravo user had the same problem and managed to fix it by changing some /data permissions over adb -- the user didn't specify the exact things done so I'm waiting on a reply with more details.
skeevy420 said:
Factory reset from stock bootmenu again. If it still hangs, flash sbf again with another factory reset afterwards just to be safe. BTW, I've had times where 3+ sbf flashes with factory resets were needed to get the phone to boot again.
One problem you might be having is if you formatted /data and /cache to ext4. Maybe it was just me, but I had to reinstall CM10, change back to ext3, flash sbf, then install CM7. Changing to ext3 and flashing CM7 didn't work -- same problem you're having. I wasn't sure if ext4 was the problem so I made sure I changed back to ext3 before sbf flashing. I'm not sure if the sbf reformats the partitions or just wipes them like a factory reset. If you've already flashed the sbf, then you can't install a CM10 rom to change back to ext3... Worse come to worse, you maybe able to install one of the custom sbf's with CM10 custom kernel preinstalled, change to ext3, flash official sbf, factory reset, then install CM7. I haven't looked into them because I make my own custom sbf's .
Bravo users are having this exact problem and my solution is to ensure that /data and /cache are ext3, flash the sbf and start from scratch -- the only guaranteed way I know of to fix this problem. Another Bravo user had the same problem and managed to fix it by changing some /data permissions over adb -- the user didn't specify the exact things done so I'm waiting on a reply with more details.
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Okey good advice.
Here is where I am at now. I have flashed a number of different SFBs and I end up with the same situation every time. RSDLIte finish the process nicely but the phone get stuck with the flashing M. When I reboot manually I get passed the M and to the Android text/logo and there I get stuck.
I get advice to do a factory reset but how do I do that. The CW bootloader is gone and I can't get to the original boot loader either. I hit volume down and power, get to the triangle screen where I am supposed to hit the right bottom corner but nothing happens.
So I cant boot the phone to get into a menu where I can change to ext3 if this is a problem.
Please help, how can I get further?
Since I have no luck restoring stock rom I now have the following plan.
Install ClockWorkMod recovery with ADB.
Using recovery to do a factory reset and clear cache.
Flash a CM10 ROM (or any rom that will successfully boot up my phone).
From that start over to downgrade to CM9 to find a stable ROM.
The question I have now is if I will be able to use ADB with the USB connection mode I get from the bootloader (volume up+pwr button)? Or does ADB actually require that I can boot my phone and go into some other USB mode such as UMS or MTP.
Second question. Playing with restoring stock ROM i run out of battery and now my defy wont charge (only see a big question mark when loading). Seems like I get no power when USB is connected so is there a way for me to charge the battery or do I need to find another happy camper in town with a working defy that can power up my battery?
llavsor said:
Okey good advice.
Here is where I am at now. I have flashed a number of different SFBs and I end up with the same situation every time. RSDLIte finish the process nicely but the phone get stuck with the flashing M. When I reboot manually I get passed the M and to the Android text/logo and there I get stuck.
I get advice to do a factory reset but how do I do that. The CW bootloader is gone and I can't get to the original boot loader either. I hit volume down and power, get to the triangle screen where I am supposed to hit the right bottom corner but nothing happens.
So I cant boot the phone to get into a menu where I can change to ext3 if this is a problem.
Please help, how can I get further?
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In froyo, you should hit vol up/down together to enter stock recovery.
If you have your cm7 nandroid or your gingerbread nandroid 2.3.6. In,custom recovery cm10, restore them. Your phone would not boot but you have your cm7 or gingerbread cwm by then, that you could format cache and total wipe back to ext.3 in the recovery menu, format/wipe follow with another nandroid restore and flash fix sbf from rsdlite.
But then the best way is go back totally clean by flashing stock froyo and root, install 2init with bootmenu 2.0. Then total wipe in recovery follow with restore your cm7 or gingerbread nandroids and flash the corresponding fix sbf via rsdlite.
Charging dead rom defy would need the MacGyver trick then. But some say if you leave it connected overnight in pc usb would charged it somehow but slow..
On 2nd thought.. you need to tell us yoyr defy model...green lense, red lense or the defy plus?? These models has their own characteristics in term of play around in cwm and way of flashing..
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farsight73 said:
In froyo, you should hit vol up/down together to enter stock recovery.
If you have your cm7 nandroid or your gingerbread nandroid 2.3.6. In,custom recovery cm10, restore them. Your phone would not boot but you have your cm7 or gingerbread cwm by then, that you could format cache and total wipe back to ext.3 in the recovery menu, format/wipe follow with another nandroid restore and flash fix sbf from rsdlite.
But then the best way is go back totally clean by flashing stock froyo and root, install 2init with bootmenu 2.0. Then total wipe in recovery follow with restore your cm7 or gingerbread nandroids and flash the corresponding fix sbf via rsdlite.
Charging dead rom defy would need the MacGyver trick then. But some say if you leave it connected overnight in pc usb would charged it somehow but slow..
On 2nd thought.. you need to tell us yoyr defy model...green lense, red lense or the defy plus?? These models has their own characteristics in term of play around in cwm and way of flashing..
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Thanks for very informative reply. I have a Defy 525 with red lens.
It's working.
I found a friend blessed with a defy and used that to charge the battery, tried to charge it over night with USB but it didn't work.
I then followed the steps from the last post and managed to flash a stock rom and then from there I rooted the phone with SuperOneClick, installed 2ndInit with ADB (guess you could use an apk installer from the phone as well ). I booted into recovery and flashed 7.2.0 Jordan from CM and now I am where I started a few weeks back.
Thank you all for your help.
That was the low battery problem.......
Since i had this i allways look for a full battery
If you think your defy is dead , a look for a empty battery won't be mad
Could anybody took a reminder info into beginners guide
MB525 red lense

TWRP Recovery has killed my defy

Hello guys, unfortunately my defy + with CM 10.1 does not work since I installed TWRP Recovery 2.6.3.0, I also lost the ClockworkMod recovery, and so I can not restore my copy CM 10.1, the phone is not charging (it is now only 25 %) ask for help.
If your phone don't boot
Charge battery with external charger
Flash .sbf firmware
Wipe data in stock recovery....
Reboot
Root
Install recovery
Restore nandroid
Be happy again
If it's boot
Copy system/bootmenu folder from
extracted nightly .zip file (last you've uesed and paste it on the rigth place using adb or rootexplorer
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thanks Bone for the answer, what is the right place to copy system / bootmenu?
I could try with the TWRP Recovery file manager
If you're have working twrp you can flash cwm recovery.zip or flash rom which contains cwm recovery
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thanks bone, I flashed CM 11 with TWRP recovery and everything went well, I'll try this rom and then after I will do a restore of the CM10
you can not completely kill our defy as our bootloader is locked...
iAjayIND said:
you can not completely kill our defy as our bootloader is locked...
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It is hard to kill but it's possible....
Throw in from 10m to asphalt ground,,
Over roll it with an airplain
Pull usb cable during sbf flash in the moment when rsd flashes the bootloader partition
Cheers
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mb 525 not powering after flashing.. i am only getting white light while connecting usb cable..please help any solution

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