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[Q] Been reading all night, still have a few questions about s4... sorry...

So i am relatively new to android and still have a few questions if anyone could help out...
I have rooted my s4 using cf auto root with out any issues other than i couldn't check the f.reset time box (not sure if that's unusual or not) so i then paid for and downloaded triangle away to reset the counter, now i'm rooted and back to official status, using nova launcher pro and able to receive OTA updates.
Currently haven't received the new update where i am yet (Australia) , the update which allows apps to be moved to sd and fixes a few other issues. Obviously i would like to get this update, I have paid for and downloaded mobile odin, i assume that when the new update is available i can download on my pc and transfer and install the file from my phone using mobile odin without restoring to stock? And once the update is installed i will need to root again?
I guess my main questions are, with the cf auto root am i able to install custom roms, am i able to update without losing the root, are their any available updates from other regions i can use without issues currently, i see a lot of talk about kernels and i am really lost when it comes to that as i haven't needed to change anything dramatic, it's all been pretty automatic, just want to make sure i'm not missing some important steps.
Thanks to anyone that bothers to reply.

First thing it sounds you have an I9505 so to be clear next time you better specify which you have mate
Second after rooting you wont have any official updates since phone is still rooted, instead download a rom and flash in CWM so of you dont have this recovery you have many options I recommend Philz....
3) you can get any firmware you like... as it goes for languages the guys already patch the roms well moat of them so that all languages are available so basicly any will do....
4) when flashing a firmware with MobileOdin you dont need to root again it has an option enabled by default saying to inject SU binary after each flash to be cool you wont have to REroot again
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta

REVERSiN said:
First thing it sounds you have an I9505 so to be clear next time you better specify which you have mate
Second after rooting you wont have any official updates since phone is still rooted, instead download a rom and flash in CWM so of you dont have this recovery you have many options I recommend Philz....
3) you can get any firmware you like... as it goes for languages the guys already patch the roms well moat of them so that all languages are available so basicly any will do....
4) when flashing a firmware with MobileOdin you dont need to root again it has an option enabled by default saying to inject SU binary after each flash to be cool you wont have to REroot again
Sent from my GT-I9500 using Tapatalk 4 Beta
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Yeah, soz, it's a I9505, so even after getting it back to official by using triangle away i can't get OTA updates? Cos before i used triangle away i checked for updates and it said "modified firmware, not able to update", now it's back to "you have the latest firmware available". Even If i was able to do OTA updates when available Would that cause issues, meaning i'm better off just doing a manual update now via mobile odin? Is the custom rom necessary for anything i'm trying to do, cos i'm pretty happy with just having it rooted and nova launcher. I haven't found anything i can't do that i want to be able to do yet. Thanks for replying.

mick50008 said:
Yeah, soz, it's a I9505, so even after getting it back to official by using triangle away i can't get OTA updates? Cos before i used triangle away i checked for updates and it said "modified firmware, not able to update", now it's back to "you have the latest firmware available". Even If i was able to do OTA updates when available Would that cause issues, meaning i'm better off just doing a manual update now via mobile odin? Is the custom rom necessary for anything i'm trying to do, cos i'm pretty happy with just having it rooted and nova launcher. I haven't found anything i can't do that i want to be able to do yet. Thanks for replying.
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I wouldn't wait for OTA updates as it will take a while, download the latest version which is I9505XXUBMGA from here and flash via Odin using a computer and your phone status will still be Official

Crauze said:
I wouldn't wait for OTA updates as it will take a while, download the latest version which is I9505XXUBMGA from here and flash via Odin using a computer and your phone status will still be Official
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Thanks man. My current build number is XXUAMDE , does that make a difference? Had a look but couldn't see exactly where i am meant to download it from on that page?
Not sure what the rule on posting links on here are but is this the right file?.. Country is listed as nordic tho... http://www.hotfile.com/dl/234701514/2b929a4/I9505XXUBMGA_I9505OXXBMG3_NEE.zip.html

You download this version file and if some apps you need isn't installed, download this file and place them in system/apps with the correct permission
You'll need to flash via Odin and instructions is in this thread and your phone status will still be Official even with root included

Crauze said:
You download this version file and if some apps you need isn't installed, download this file and place them in system/apps with the correct permission
You'll need to flash via Odin and instructions is in this thread and your phone status will still be Official even with root included
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Alright, downloading now, so is that a custom rom or just the update? Says it's going to take 7 hours lol, so think i might get some sleep before i have a crack at it! thanks!

mick50008 said:
Alright, downloading now, so is that a custom rom or just the update? Says it's going to take 7 hours lol, so think i might get some sleep before i have a crack at it! thanks!
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It's not a custom ROM, it's stock ROM which has root included with bloatware apps removed but still gives you Official phone status

Crauze said:
It's not a custom ROM, it's stock ROM which has root included with bloatware apps removed but still gives you Official phone status
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Alright, so i have downloaded and installed the 1.1gig update, i then backed up from a backup i made before updating, i then went and installed the programs that didn't auto install from the backup and a few of the ones that were removed in this update, I don't need to install those apps from the 337mb file you linked if i don't want to do i? Thanks.

mick50008 said:
Alright, so i have downloaded and installed the 1.1gig update, i then backed up from a backup i made before updating, i then went and installed the programs that didn't auto install from the backup and a few of the ones that were removed in this update, I don't need to install those apps from the 337mb file you linked if i don't want to do i? Thanks.
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Also, i am just trying to download a few apps from the play store to my internal storage as usual and i am now getting "unable to install to usb mass storage device" also, apps keep going upside down no matter how i hold the phone. Plus it seems to be lagging...

mick50008 said:
Alright, so i have downloaded and installed the 1.1gig update, i then backed up from a backup i made before updating, i then went and installed the programs that didn't auto install from the backup and a few of the ones that were removed in this update, I don't need to install those apps from the 337mb file you linked if i don't want to do i? Thanks.
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It's not a update, it's a custom stock ROM, did you flash via Odin following the instructions in this thread?
You don't have to install the Deleted Apps file if all the apps you need is already installed
mick50008 said:
Also, i am just trying to download a few apps from the play store to my internal storage as usual and i am now getting "unable to install to usb mass storage device" also, apps keep going upside down no matter how i hold the phone. Plus it seems to be lagging...
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It shouldn't have problems that you listed above, did you flash the custom stock ROM correctly?

Crauze said:
It's not a update, it's a custom stock ROM, did you flash via Odin following the instructions in this thread?
You don't have to install the Deleted Apps file if all the apps you need is already installed
It shouldn't have problems that you listed above, did you flash the custom stock ROM correctly?
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I just installed cwm recovery (don't really know what i'm doing at this stage lol) cos i was having issues with bad wifi even with a good signal, and couple of force closes plus the issues i identified earlier and did "fix permissions" from cwm recovery, quick speed test or 10 and it is faster than normal, seems to be as smooth as it was before, haven't tested any games yet either for the rotation issue....

[Q] Steps for getting a custom ROM on ATT s4 with MF3?

Guys,
I am going to apologize in advance...the little time i have every day to scour the forums here...i have been trying to nail down all the steps and haven't really gotten a grasp on this so i am hoping someone can guide me instead of telling me to search (more)...
I have a AT&T S4 on 4.2.2 MF3
- that i have already rooted
- that i have soft unlocked to work on any carrier i.e. Ultra mobile (which i am currently using)
- i have safestrap installed on it
Goal: get rid of the nasty bloated ATT 4.2.2 replaced with a custom ROM 4.3, transfer all my apps and settings over
- I understand there is no boot unlocker so no custom recovery.
- I want to make sure the process is fail safe, i can go back if something goes wrong - what do i need to do to ensure that
- how do i get the custom rom installed? which one? i want no bloat + TouchWiz (i am thinking Echo Rom or CyanogenMod ?)
- how do i transfer all my apps and settings?
- will i loose my root and unlock?
I appreciate any step by step in advance!

AtlzBest26 said:
Guys,
I am going to apologize in advance...the little time i have every day to scour the forums here...i have been trying to nail down all the steps and haven't really gotten a grasp on this so i am hoping someone can guide me instead of telling me to search (more)...
I have a AT&T S4 on 4.2.2 MF3
- that i have already rooted
- that i have soft unlocked to work on any carrier i.e. Ultra mobile (which i am currently using)
- i have safestrap installed on it
Goal: get rid of the nasty bloated ATT 4.2.2 replaced with a custom ROM 4.3, transfer all my apps and settings over
- I understand there is no boot unlocker so no custom recovery.
- I want to make sure the process is fail safe, i can go back if something goes wrong - what do i need to do to ensure that
- how do i get the custom rom installed? which one? i want no bloat + TouchWiz (i am thinking Echo Rom or CyanogenMod ?)
- how do i transfer all my apps and settings?
- will i loose my root and unlock?
I appreciate any step by step in advance!
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If you want to keep data, you need to remove Safestrap and make sure you haven't changed any system files. Otherwise, make a backup in Safestrap to external, reflash MF3, reroot, install SS, and restore only data. Then you take the OTA to MK2 after uninstalling Safestrap. You'll have to find the zip and adb sideload it yourself most likely. You can keep root by using SuperSU's survival mode or just use Saferoot afterwards. Then install Safestrap 3.72, and install a ROM. You can try to put your app data on the ROM slot you use, but you'll have to make sure you don't put in system data like for the system UI or you'll get force closes.
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[Q] need a good rom

i hate rooting . yet i need one
i need a root that grants me access to my s4 sytem files and change them
and a root that can also run odexed and deodexed apps (not sure if possible)
but i dont want to feel like my device is rooted . i want to keep stock everything . just change some apps and acess system files without doing anything else . (its like a stock rom with ability to change what i need)
maybe an app that give FULLLLL backup of my phone (system . apps . system apps. touchwiz UI. and al those stuff
any suggestion?
thnx

lesrourou said:
i hate rooting . yet i need one
i need a root that grants me access to my s4 sytem files and change them
and a root that can also run odexed and deodexed apps (not sure if possible)
but i dont want to feel like my device is rooted . i want to keep stock everything . just change some apps and acess system files without doing anything else . (its like a stock rom with ability to change what i need)
maybe an app that give FULLLLL backup of my phone (system . apps . system apps. touchwiz UI. and al those stuff
any suggestion?
thnx
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Root with deodex support is not possible you've to install a ROM that is deodexed to have a deodex firmware.
BTW don't hate so much root... You can mod whatever things you want but keep all stock like me (I don't like so much Aosp ROM and touchwiz ROM that change much things).

lesrourou said:
i hate rooting . yet i need one
i need a root that grants me access to my s4 sytem files and change them
and a root that can also run odexed and deodexed apps (not sure if possible)
but i dont want to feel like my device is rooted . i want to keep stock everything . just change some apps and acess system files without doing anything else . (its like a stock rom with ability to change what i need)
maybe an app that give FULLLLL backup of my phone (system . apps . system apps. touchwiz UI. and al those stuff
any suggestion?
thnx
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Just root the stock ROM and flash a custom recovery (ClockworkMod, TWRP, etc) and you will have exactly what you want.
No need for a custom rom.
Root works fine on stock. It's the apps that give you access to do the stuff you want, not the ROM. The apps are all on google play.
If you want further recomendations for a custom ROM, you cannot ask for that on XDA. Opinions on custom ROMs are just opinions based on other people's needs. As such, they have no meaning to anyone else. What the best rom for you is, might be the worst rom for me. So "best rom" questions are not permitted on XDA because there is no best rom.
As for choosing which rom is right for you, you are expected to read teh development threads as all the information you could possibly ever want to know is contained in them. Then make a few choices for yourself and test them out. See which one works best for you.
That said, if you really want that stock feel with no differences in UI or anything else, then your best bet is to root your stock rom and stick with it. IT's insanely easy to do. Takes 10 minutes (if you stop to eat a sandwich while doing it)

Skipjacks said:
Just root the stock ROM and flash a custom recovery (ClockworkMod, TWRP, etc) and you will have exactly what you want.
No need for a custom rom.
Root works fine on stock. It's the apps that give you access to do the stuff you want, not the ROM. The apps are all on google play.
If you want further recomendations for a custom ROM, you cannot ask for that on XDA. Opinions on custom ROMs are just opinions based on other people's needs. As such, they have no meaning to anyone else. What the best rom for you is, might be the worst rom for me. So "best rom" questions are not permitted on XDA because there is no best rom.
As for choosing which rom is right for you, you are expected to read teh development threads as all the information you could possibly ever want to know is contained in them. Then make a few choices for yourself and test them out. See which one works best for you.
That said, if you really want that stock feel with no differences in UI or anything else, then your best bet is to root your stock rom and stick with it. IT's insanely easy to do. Takes 10 minutes (if you stop to eat a sandwich while doing it)
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i know the apps like ES file explorer give me access to what i need
soo how do root a stock rom and download these apps ? what is odexed and deodexed and why deodexed dont run on odexed? my understanding was that an "out of the box s4" is odexed .

lesrourou said:
i know the apps like ES file explorer give me access to what i need
soo how do root a stock rom and download these apps ? what is odexed and deodexed and why deodexed dont run on odexed? my understanding was that an "out of the box s4" is odexed .
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Odexed vs deodexed is explained in abotu 500,000 places on XDA. Use the search feature and you will find more than you ever wanted to know about it.
CF Auto Root will root your stock ROM. You use Odin to get it installed. It takes 30 seconds. Literally 30 seconds.
Then you have root.
Then you can use all teh root apps you want.
You can also install a custom recovery either via odin or with apps that flash it for you from the phone (Like ROM manager or TWRP Manager)

Skipjacks said:
Odexed vs deodexed is explained in abotu 500,000 places on XDA. Use the search feature and you will find more than you ever wanted to know about it.
CF Auto Root will root your stock ROM. You use Odin to get it installed. It takes 30 seconds. Literally 30 seconds.
Then you have root.
Then you can use all teh root apps you want.
You can also install a custom recovery either via odin or with apps that flash it for you from the phone (Like ROM manager or TWRP Manager)
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but root voids warranty . how do i root CF auto root without it being detected by the repairsman if my phone breaks?

lesrourou said:
but root voids warranty . how do i root CF auto root without it being detected by the repairsman if my phone breaks?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiZ7D2zjJdA will this root work ? will it do what i need it to do? without voiding my warranty

lesrourou said:
but root voids warranty . how do i root CF auto root without it being detected by the repairsman if my phone breaks?
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Yup.
That's one of the catches. It's why they make T Shirts that say "I VOID WARRENTIES". It's kind of a badge of honor.
However, you can also use Tiangle Away by Chainfire to reset your flash counter, thus hiding that you have flashed a lot of stuff.
However, you cannot udo the Knox flag, which says that the phoen has been messed with. However, warrently doesn't seem to be affected by this in real world trials thus far. Many people report sending knox tripped devices in for warrenty service and not having any negative effects.

Skipjacks said:
Yup.
That's one of the catches. It's why they make T Shirts that say "I VOID WARRENTIES". It's kind of a badge of honor.
However, you can also use Tiangle Away by Chainfire to reset your flash counter, thus hiding that you have flashed a lot of stuff.
However, you cannot udo the Knox flag, which says that the phoen has been messed with. However, warrently doesn't seem to be affected by this in real world trials thus far. Many people report sending knox tripped devices in for warrenty service and not having any negative effects.
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i watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FXULkN5rAU it says triangle away by chainfire but emmm what im planning to do with root is toc hange my UI into a custom S5 look . if i do that and use triangle away will it soft brick my phone ?
watch the video and youll se the warning

lesrourou said:
i watched this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FXULkN5rAU it says triangle away by chainfire but emmm what im planning to do with root is toc hange my UI into a custom S5 look . if i do that and use triangle away will it soft brick my phone ?
watch the video and youll se the warning
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Root it.
Use Triangle away.
THEN make all your modifications to the phone. Triangle Away won't be the cause of the brick if you do it in that order. Triangle away causes problems when you try to use it when you aren't on the stock rom or recovery. So use it before you change the rom or recovery.

Skipjacks said:
Root it.
Use Triangle away.
THEN make all your modifications to the phone. Triangle Away won't be the cause of the brick if you do it in that order. Triangle away causes problems when you try to use it when you aren't on the stock rom or recovery. So use it before you change the rom or recovery.
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im planning on getting a backup of all my system before rooting . so il use CWM recovery . PC recovery . Kies recovery . Philz touch recovery .
do those backup my entire system ? if i fk up and have a back up how do i flash it?
EDIT : CWM and Philz touch recovery can void warranty and changes the download mode interface . any other way of completly backing up my phone so when i soft brick it or something i can install that like its a rom or something

lesrourou said:
im planning on getting a backup of all my system before rooting . so il use CWM recovery . PC recovery . Kies recovery . Philz touch recovery .
do those backup my entire system ? if i fk up and have a back up how do i flash it?
EDIT : CWM and Philz touch recovery can void warranty and changes the download mode interface . any other way of completly backing up my phone so when i soft brick it or something i can install that like its a rom or something
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I used mskips toolkit to install my custom recovery (TWRP) and it didn't trip KNOX for me, you can find the thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678641
As for doing your backup try this which I found using google in about 3 minutes of searching. http://www.addictivetips.com/android/what-is-twrp-how-to-install-use-it-on-android-devices-guide/
This might help with things that you might want to do later : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192841
Hope this helped

busbyeie said:
I used mskips toolkit to install my custom recovery (TWRP) and it didn't trip KNOX for me, you can find the thread here : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2678641
As for doing your backup try this which I found using google in about 3 minutes of searching. http://www.addictivetips.com/android/what-is-twrp-how-to-install-use-it-on-android-devices-guide/
This might help with things that you might want to do later : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192841
Hope this helped
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good

Revert to stock and root without reboots.

Hello, I have had a few people ask about how I reverted back to stock and managed to root without having reboots so here is an outline including links.
First you will need to use ODIN to go back to the original stock firmware.
Stock Odin for P907A can found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/sm-p907a-att-version-news-t2850564/page1
Stock ODIN for the P900 can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724895
For those who don't know how to use ODIN, here is a nce guide for you: http://androidcentral.us/2014/02/how-to-flash-firmware-using-odin-samsung-devices/
Now the next thing you need to do is root using TowelRoot, but DO NOT install SuperSU yet! After rooting use the debloat script in this thread (You run it from your device using terminal, I used the terminal function in ROM Toolbox): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797540
I only used the option to disable KNOX and the updater along with the option to disable the startup sound.
Once you have successfully done those things, you may now install SuperSU. It will no longer ask you about KNOX, because it is properly disabled and will not cause you any reboots. My Note Pro has been rock solid stable and lightning fast after doing this.
NOTE: You will not be able to update to new firmwares after this.
Thanks to:
najoor
torreon91
Please make sure you hit thanks in these guys' threads for their hard work!
EDIT: If Jellybean comes out for our tablet I would not update unless the trade off was worth it to you. Or obviously if an exploit for the jellybean update were found then you would want to. If you did want to update, you could re-enable the updater by using the enbloat script that was with the debloat script.

Thank you for your help. Now I will be able to use my tablet more frequently

dragunbayne said:
Hello, I have had a few people ask about how I reverted back to stock and managed to root without having reboots so here is an outline including links.
First you will need to use ODIN to go back to the original stock firmware.
Odin for P907A can found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/sm-p907a-att-version-news-t2850564/page1
For those who don't know how to use ODIN, here is a nce guide for you: http://androidcentral.us/2014/02/how-to-flash-firmware-using-odin-samsung-devices/
Now the next thing you need to do is root using TowelRoot, but DO NOT install SuperSU yet! After rooting use the debloat script in this thread (You run it from your device using terminal, I used the terminal function in ROM Toolbox): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797540
I only used the option to disable KNOX and the updater along with the option to disable the startup sound.
Once you have successfully done those things, you may now install SuperSU. It will no longer ask you about KNOX, because it is properly disabled and will not cause you any reboots. My Note Pro has been rock solid stable and lightning fast after doing this.
NOTE: You will not be able to update to new firmwares after this.
Thanks to:
najoor
torreon91
Please make sure you hit thanks in these guys' threads for their hard work!
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EDIT: If Jellybean comes out for our tablet I would not update unless the trade off was worth it to you. Or obviously if an exploit for the jellybean update were found then you would want to. If you did want to update, you could re-enable the updater by using the enbloat script that was with the debloat script.

dragunbayne said:
Hello, I have had a few people ask about how I reverted back to stock and managed to root without having reboots so here is an outline including links.
First you will need to use ODIN to go back to the original stock firmware.
Odin for P907A can found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-pro-12/general/sm-p907a-att-version-news-t2850564/page1
For those who don't know how to use ODIN, here is a nce guide for you: http://androidcentral.us/2014/02/how-to-flash-firmware-using-odin-samsung-devices/
Now the next thing you need to do is root using TowelRoot, but DO NOT install SuperSU yet! After rooting use the debloat script in this thread (You run it from your device using terminal, I used the terminal function in ROM Toolbox): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2797540
I only used the option to disable KNOX and the updater along with the option to disable the startup sound.
Once you have successfully done those things, you may now install SuperSU. It will no longer ask you about KNOX, because it is properly disabled and will not cause you any reboots. My Note Pro has been rock solid stable and lightning fast after doing this.
NOTE: You will not be able to update to new firmwares after this.
Thanks to:
najoor
torreon91
Please make sure you hit thanks in these guys' threads for their hard work!
EDIT: If Jellybean comes out for our tablet I would not update unless the trade off was worth it to you. Or obviously if an exploit for the jellybean update were found then you would want to. If you did want to update, you could re-enable the updater by using the enbloat script that was with the debloat script.
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Is there a way to do this, but for the SMP-900 version the first link with the odin files state that they are only for the SM-P907 version? I have reverted back to stock but my tablet reboots qute often and with school starting it would be great to avoid that while taking notes. Thanks!

acaldrn2 said:
Is there a way to do this, but for the SMP-900 version the first link with the odin files state that they are only for the SM-P907 version? I have reverted back to stock but my tablet reboots qute often and with school starting it would be great to avoid that while taking notes. Thanks!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2724895
I will add it to the main post also.

5.1.1 [DOK2] Setup [Debloated & Systemless Root] [Viper4Android][Bettery Battery]

5.1.1 [DOK2] Setup [Debloated & Systemless Root] [Viper4Android][Bettery Battery]
I have seen a few people having issues with the DOK2 update and were looking for a step by step process of how to upgrade to the new firmware and optimize it to get goo performance. this thread will guide you through that process as well as link to the appropriate threads to download and get the needed files/add ons.
*****This process will wipe your phones internal storage and give you a clean install of the new firmware.
Step 1: Download the DOK2 firmware to your PC
There are a few places you can get this from:
Sammobile: N910T Firmware
Or XDA thread: Stock TW Firmware/Bootloader/Modem N910TUVU2DOK2 UNMODIFIED Mirror
(You will need the entire firmware not just the modem and baseband)
Step 2: Download ODIN to you computer
From ODIN DOWNLOAD: ODIN 3.10.7
Step 3: Odin Flash new firmware.
The download from Sammobile or Mega should be a .zip file. you will need to unzip that file to find the .tar file which is what you will use for ODIN flashing the firmware.
If you need help using Odin to flash the firmware check out this post on Android Central: Help Thread
After you have completed the Odin Flash the phone should reboot and come to the setup screen with your new firmware.
Step 4: Odin Flash TWRP
Download TWRP to your computer: TWRP Downloads
Specifically you want this file: twrp-2.8.7.0-trltetmo.img.tar
Use Odin to flash TWRP recovery onto your device.
If you get lost you can check this tutorial: ODIN Help
Step 5: Reboot your device and setup
Once you have rebooted go ahead and set up your device. we will worry abou debloating and getting root after your device is setup.
Step 6: make a backup in TWRP
Once your device is setup make a TWRP backup of your setting
Step 7: Getting Root
*****Update: New SuperSu 2.64 beta. Works even better with Samsung phones. *******
You will need the latest SuperSU beta from the below thread.
SuperSU Beta Systemless Root
Newest version is 2.64
You will then boot into TWRP and flash that zip in recovery. This will give you "Systemless Root"
Systemless root allows you to use the stock kernel with SE LINUX enforcing, but still be able to use root apps. However this is not complete root. Some root apps that need to modify the system will not work. this is just a BETA root and is not final yet. check back to that thread for updates as they come out.
Once you have flashed the SuperSU zip reboot your device and verify your root apps are working.
Step 8: DeBloating TW.
There are 2 options for debloating TW.
Option #1: V3.90 Debloater V3.90 DeBloater
This option works on both rooted and unrooted devices. It really is a program that uases ADB to allow you to FREEZE system apps. This will not allow you to completely delete the application with Systemless Root.
The OP has a TON of detail and walks through this process of how to uses his program.
Option #2: [Script]Touchwiz De-Bloating Script and Gapps ~ 222 Apps
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...pt-touchwiz-bloating-script-222-apps-t3258537
This Option removes 222 applications. It is a simple download and flash in recovery process.
****HOWEVER This will remove some functionality of the device READ the list of application before you flash to make sure there are not any that you use. The OP also has instructions on how to modify the script if you want some application to not be removed.
Step 9 Viper4Android on Systemless root.
Download the Viper4 Andriod/Beat installer
Viper4Android w/ Beat Audio
Flash the installer zip in TWRP and reboot your device
Download BusyBox Installer
BusyBox by Stephen (Stericson)
Install BusyBox
Reboot
install Viper$Android Drivers
Reboot
Download both the Viper4Android SU policy fixes
1.) ViPER4Android-supolicy.zip
2.) XM_V4A_Fix_by_androidexpert35.zip
Reboot into TWRP and flahs both of these. you can flash them at the same time just to them in the order above. [1 then 2]
Reboot the device and enjoy V4a.
******Also the Beat portion of the zip is a bit wonky sometimes. I have not yet been able to get it to opperate effectively, so you may want to disable it or freeze it with Titanium backup.
Disclaimer: NONE of these zips are mine. I am posting download links from my mega, because I pulled these files from 3 different threads and only one was from an OP. the main Viper4Android /beats install zip comes from here : [SUPER MOD][4.3+/6.0][ v6.2 ] XTREMEMusic™ THE SOUND THAT YOU'VE NEVER HEARD!
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With this setup I have easily gotten more than a days worth of usage. I average about 5.5 hours of SOT and 24 hrs between charges. Normally I plug in around 20 hours with about 40% battery left.
*****These are all items developed by other XDA USERS. Please provide the thanks on their respective threads as well.

Thanks for taking the time for this write up. I don't have much experience with the new systemless root. I was wondering since the steps you mentioned above doesn't require any pre-rooted steps if there is any way of getting root without triggering Knox. I know in the past you can do this with Android 4.x, however since I'm currently on the latest boatloader there is no going back. I understand many don't care about Knox, but since my replacement and having Knox intact, I'd thought it might be worth my while since systemless root seems to be the future for new Android releases. Also I've been running stock for the last few months and the experience has been pretty good, though I miss some of the conveniences of having root.

James62370 said:
Thanks for taking the time for this write up. I don't have much experience with the new systemless root. I was wondering since the steps you mentioned above doesn't require any pre-rooted steps if there is anyway off getting root without triggering Knox. I know in the past you can do this with Android 4.x, however since I'm currently on the latest boatloader there is no going back. I understand many don't care about Knox, but since my replacement and having Knox intact, I'd thought it might be worth my while since systemless root seems to be the future for new Android releases. Also I've been running stock for the last few months and the experience has been pretty good, though I miss some of the conveniences of having root.
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This method is for root only. It requires installing TWRP which is a custom recovery. That means you will have to unlock the bootloader to be able to use this method. Once you unlock the bootloader (by Odin flashing TWRP) you have already tripped Knox. Knox is no big deal from what I have heard though. I have not heard of anyone getting denied a new phone because it was tripped.
The two main reasons to use this method are:
1.) It keeps the system intact, which allows you to use apps that check for root. (eg. Android Pay, Some Bank Apps etc)
2.) It allows you to use the stock kernel from 5.1.1. Currently the only way to get root on 5.1.1 and up is to install a custom kernel. Which is fine, and there are two really great option available with Emotion and Beast Mode, but I find the stock kernel gets me the best battery life and is the most stable.
ALSO this will be the way root is done going forward. 6.0.1 has a bunch of system file locks that prevent much of the system tinkering from happening. Chainfire (dev who built SuperSU) has a nice right up about the system partition on XDA right now explaining why some of the system tweaks we were used to will not be possible in the future. so at the very least this is good practice for getting ready for the Marshmallow update.

ShrekOpher said:
Step 8: DeBloating TW.
There are 2 options for debloating TW.
Option #1: V3.90 Debloater [http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/debloater-remove-carrier-bloat-t2998294]
This option works on both rooted and unrooted devices. It really is a program that uases ADB to allow you to FREEZE system apps. This will not allow you to completely delete the application with Systemless Root.
The OP has a TON of detail and walks through this process of how to uses his program.
Option #2: [Script]Touchwiz De-Bloating Script and Gapps ~ 222 Apps [http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...t-touchwiz-bloating-script-222-apps-t3258537]
This Option removes 222 applications. It is a simple download and flash in recoevery process.
****HOWEVER This will remove some functionality of the device READ the list of application before you flash to make sure there are not any that you use. The OP also has instructions on how to modify the script if you want some application to not be removed.
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Witch option is the easier? :silly:

Avide said:
Witch option is the easier? :silly:
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Option #2 is WAY easier as long as you don't want to modify the script. You just download it to you phone boot into recovery and flash it. Then reboot. Takes 5 min.

ShrekOpher said:
This method is for root only. It requires installing TWRP which is a custom recovery. That means you will have to unlock the bootloader to be able to use this method. Once you unlock the bootloader (by Odin flashing TWRP) you have already tripped Knox. Knox is no big deal from what I have heard though. I have not heard of anyone getting denied a new phone because it was tripped.
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Appreciate your reply. I was under the impression that the boatloader is already unlocked which is why we can flash a recovery without jumping through too many hoops. I know that a custom recovery trips Knox, but if there's a way to install the latest supersu through a utility such as flashfire or mobile odin, Knox won't be tripped.
I'm not really worried about warranty, just curious to see if it's possible to retain the integrity. Unfortunately both those options I mention requires the device to already be rooted which defeats what I'm trying to accomplish.
Hopefully someone will be able to figure something out in the near future.

Is it possible to use xposed with this?

So Shrek you've made the total move over?
I am holding off, althoguh i dunno for how long , because i need darker theme colors. do you know of any options?

masri1987 said:
So Shrek you've made the total move over?
I am holding off, althoguh i dunno for how long , because i need darker theme colors. do you know of any options?
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Unless there is a feature in 5.1.1 that you MUST have, I would wait. I don't find anything to be significantly better on 5.1.1 vs. 4.4.4, but the battery life is much worse.

chodaboy19 said:
Unless there is a feature in 5.1.1 that you MUST have, I would wait. I don't find anything to be significantly better on 5.1.1 vs. 4.4.4, but the battery life is much worse.
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Well i'm on 5.0.1 right now pop rocks, so yeah i probably will wait since there isn't a particular feature... i'm using the DOK2 modem on COD6 rom right now.

Is there a list of apps you should disable via the debloater specific to the tmobile note4?

masri1987 said:
So Shrek you've made the total move over?
I am holding off, althoguh i dunno for how long , because i need darker theme colors. do you know of any options?
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There is no dark theme option as of right now, really it's the only thing i miss.

Will Rickards said:
Is there a list of apps you should disable via the debloater specific to the tmobile note4?
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The list of apps on the "Debloater Script" (Option #2) thread is a great reference.

I tried everything exactly as indicated by this great guide, but I am still getting very poor battery life. I give up, I don't know what else to do.
I have googled and tried all sorts of suggestions from others with the same problem to no avail. Google Play Services and 5.1.1 have made my phone a useless POS. I guess it's time for a new phone. LOL

chodaboy19 said:
I tried everything exactly as indicated by this great guide, but I am still getting very poor battery life. I give up, I don't know what else to do.
I have googled and tried all sorts of suggestions from others with the same problem to no avail. Google Play Services and 5.1.1 have made my phone a useless POS. I guess it's time for a new phone. LOL
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Do you ever use power saving mode? If you are in the stock kernel it can help a bunch. The phone operates just fine on it, if you are going to play a game or something you just turn it back off, but while your phone is in your pocket or laying around idle it keeps those background running Google services in check.
I'm normally getting about 6 hrs of SOT and about 24 hrs between charges. Below is where I'm at so far today. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT.

ShrekOpher said:
Do you ever use power saving mode? If you are in the stock kernel it can help a bunch. The phone operates just fine on it, if you are going to play a game or something you just turn it back off, but while your phone is in your pocket or laying around idle it keeps those background running Google services in check.
I'm normally getting about 6 hrs of SOT and about 24 hrs between charges. Below is where I'm at so far today. With about 2.5 hrs of SOT.
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I think I found the culprit after 2 days of googling and countless wasted hours. My specific problem was that Media process was running all the time which in turn was causing Google Play Services to run at all times.
The Media process includes 2 packages: Media Storage and Download Manager. Together they perform scanning and indexing of media files on the internal SD and external SD.
I came across this page:
http://geeknizer.com/fix-android-media-server-scanner-sdcard-cpu-battery-drain/
I did step #3 which states that having more than 1,000 files in a folder makes this process crap out. I reformatted my microSD card, then I copied back all the files to the microSD. Then finally I deleted most of the pictures so that no one folder had more than 400 images.
I rebooted my phone and it started to behave normally. The Media Process only ran for 5minutes and stopped. Google Play Services ran for 2min and stopped. I have been through 1 charge already and got 5hrs or so of screen time with heavy use, I was installing apps, configuring accounts, freezing apps with Titanium backup, etc.
Overall, it seems like I have a happy ending to my story, BUT I will post a followup if the phone craps out again.
EDIT:
How do you get it to show the time on battery?
Mine doesn't have that information:

Does anyone have any interest in me adding how to set up Viper4Android on Systemless root to this thread? Just curious if I should go through the trouble.

There is a new version of SuperSU 2.64:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=64161125&postcount=3
Changelog:
20.12.2015 - v2.64 - BETA
- (systemless) Detect more boot image partition names
- (systemless) Blank partitions before writing to them
- (systemless) Ask to restore boot and recovery images on full unroot
- (systemless) Implement "uninstall competing superuser apps"
- (systemless) Samsung: prevent "KERNEL IS NOT SEANDROID ENFORCING" warning
- (systemless) Cleanup system install properly if present, fixes a number of possible bootloops
- ZIP: 6.0+: Detect firmwares that can reload sepolicy from /data and use system-based root on these ("allow init kernel:security { load_policy }")
- supolicy: Additional SELinux patches for M (reduced logging only)
- Update translations

ShrekOpher said:
The list of apps on the "Debloater Script" (Option #2) thread is a great reference.
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Link to script isn't working. ..have another?
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AlexanderBlaQ said:
Link to script isn't working. ..have another?
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Should be working now. Thanks for the heads up.