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i can't play any game its mostly only 80mb free or around that, should i use a Task killer or somthing ? im using ms2ginger overclocked it with setcpu , i did install ram manager but its the same anyidea how to get more free memory i cant play muffin knight anymore lol i use to play it on cm7 thanks .
Android system frees up ram as and when it needs to, so if the game requests for more memory android will kill some apps which are not running and free up space.
I also use ms2ginger, dont use any task manager and all the games ive tried work just as well as how it used to in cm7(including gta3).
So your problem must be something else
oh well its lagging , it must be something else maybe !!
well Im using Advanced Task killer on stock Defy+ rom with some own deblur.
After start it has 200MB free, later about 100. When using taskiller on the lowest risk option, it frees about 50MB to 150MB.
But I thought that more RAM using drains more battery ... or am I not right?
he is right, dont worry about the available memory..! android will allocate sufficient memory for the running program, which in your case is the game you're playing...
if you are experiencing lags while gaming, its because of the cpu voltage and frequency...!
i believe you are using some cpu app... increase the voltage for each frequency for when you start playing games..!
i am on Wajkiui... with 60-70mb free ram, i can play Modern Combat 3... but when the voltage is low, i get lags..! so i go back and increase the voltage and it plays well...
use setvsel... for settling cpu voltage and freq.
for gaming;
35v-300
45v-600
60v-1000
for normal use;
18-300
28-600
48-1000
Hello, my name is Felipe ('m brazilian my english can be bad) and I was wondering how to have high performance in games one example is GTA Vice City
in my L3 it is very slow, hangs and reboots my phone yet!
I use the Fusion Xperia rom 1.2 no swap usage, usage 1.0 Ghz overclock
then how could have a performance coming to Xperia Mini Pro?
Make it faster with this(Seeder)
If rooted download Seeder its not free u have to pay for it.(or just crack it "illegal" )
And when u install it ,open it, and select the switch button right to "Seeder lag reducion" text. Grant SuperUser privileges.And it should make less lag. Hit thanks if helps u.
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dude, you have single core and old gpu, you won't have a better performance, get a better phone if you want that.
gltools
i suggest u to use gltool!!!
i play pretty smoothly fifa 14 on cyanoid 15(which for me is not very stable and i dont know why )
i also played asphalt 8 but not very playable
i also tried gta san andreas and without gltools when i died it chrashed instead of when i use gltools with which i played it very well
it's compatible with both 4.0.4 and 2.3.6
can u show me how to use gtool, it's diffficult to use. i consider upgrading to cyanoid #15. cyanoid runs game smoothly or not?
it's not difficult
kien_vip said:
can u show me how to use gtool, it's diffficult to use. i consider upgrading to cyanoid #15. cyanoid runs game smoothly or not?
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it's not difficult to use it...if you are already rooted you have to install apk and the install the drivers with the app(check the Others 2 options), give him superuser permission and then it will reboot
after that u have to select the game from the menù of the app once u opened it and then you have to select disable on anisotropic, in some games also 16bit trasparency cuold help but it make some games crash, select also optimize glsl and then on the texture section select texture scale and set it to 0.5 or 0.25(it will make some texture of menu of the game bad) and if you want more performance you can downscale it more and more or even go to resolution rendering and select 0.5(0.25 displays the game very bad and even 0.5 doesnt make it good but if you wanna reduce the res on a low res phone the result cant be different)
hope i helped you
The i9000 has just 389 mb ram available to users and hence often leads to lags and app closures in background, in addition to poor gaming performance(apps have to be closed by the game causing stutters and frame rate dops in the beginning of any game)
I was wondering if like ios it was possible for a rom dev to just allow core os apps in a rom and have psuedo-multitasking(freezing and unfreezing) like ios.The reason that iphone 4s, works so smooth and can play heavy games(like real racing 3) with 512 mb ram is because of their multi tasking technique.
At the moment,There is an option in developer options where you can limit background processes to none and purge activities as soon as you exit the activity.This is good for running games(as even the launcher and any other back ground app is closed as soon as u start the app allowing full ram for the current game).This is good for gamers but prevents any form of multi tasking between apps.
If this could be used in complement with freezing and unfreezing of background apps(like ios) then maybe this phone would not have any lag issues at all, even in future heavy os updates.
P.S : It's just an idea. I'm no dev but sure could use an opinion of one .
EDIT : A solution which works for me. Gamerzrom v4.0 has caching of apps pre-enabled. So no more apps killed in background due to lack of ram.
Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Or you could just use a task manager/killer. Es task manager is good.
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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kogli said:
I'd also love to see stuff working like this. Instead of killing all the apps running in background, keep them "frozen" and restore their last state when opening, just like iOS.
And please, don't give us ideas like task killers, tweaks, overclock, bigmem and stuff.. That's NOT what I want, got it?
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Buy an iPhone then. Got it?
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Too expensive xDD
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Try Greenify
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Taskmanagers are not good and are conflicting with android LMK.
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Agreed as task killers never worked for me, But to have actual freezing (of background apps only) there's greenify (available on market for free for root users only), and so i have enough ram(about 170-190 mb) to play heavy games without much lag.
But the issue here is to have proper multi-tasking without burdening the os. That is just like how greenify stores the state of the app in background and then completely freezes it, so it won't start again in background and yet open normally when needed(better than disabling the app/service) .If something like this could be extended to foreground apps.
If there's no solution possible, then just buy the cheaper version of iphone coming soon, if its expensive ryt now .
Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Still many people have sgs
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Thats a great idea but there's a problem today new phones come out like crazy i mean now you have phones with quad core processors and 1gb of ram new graphic gpus and stuff which make our phones too old and weak and most people dont bother with things like that because most of them just get a new phone sooner or later which doesnt really need this since they are strong enough to run anything and make it happen fast. So in conclusion devs dont bother with a project that big cause they will move on to different phones as you see they are cheaper everyday. I blame everything on android cause it could have been made better. I have my hopes up for ubuntu touch but well see how that goes
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Well over 25 million sgs1 have been sold, and all of them don't have enough money to upgrade anytime soon.
Also the need of such high specs is because apps run in parallel in background.If such a project to develop psuedo-multi tasking is started and completed, then there won't be any need of upgrading ur phone at all(even other low ram phones will benefit from it). But such a project requires great deal of work with how the system works internally, it will require great devs (which we have ) so maybe something can happen :fingers-crossed:.
I know that our phones are strong enough to handle any app one at a time(i disabled all background services possible and set phone to purge any activity as soon as it exits and set background app limit to 0 , using 439mb ram option in devil kernel with sick sky launcher), so i had upto 230 mb ram free when i checked it in settings app(which uses 30 mb ram itself) . With such a setup and oc to 1.2 ghz, i have been able to play real racing 3 with medium graphics(modded)(played at level of graphics of iphone 4) on my phone with almost no lag.
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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As above:
The same is for our device the Samsung Galaxy S Plus (I9001). There is development but it is slow and some great developers have gone to another device
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Yes if you notice devs have left and those who stayed have many projects and so the development goes slow until it stopps :/
Many of us dont have the money to move to a new device so well just see whats going to happen fingeres crossed it all goes okay
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Im still on modified gingerbread. xD
Use greenify search for it in the play store
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Couldn't this easily be achieved with a swappiness tweak? Write any app that isn't in focus onto the swap partition so no background apps are in memory, would make the system **** tier slow though for anything but gaming.
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Delete bloatware,disable unnecessary services without disabling whole app with DisableServices app ( you can find it on google store,and it's free), install busybox pro and run RAM manager Pro, and last step would be to try installing soem custom Roms which probably could give better performance to you.
A good setup for gaming
For those people who want to obtain maximum performance from games, here are some tips which i have found over the 3 years i have had this phone:
1) The best kernel for gaming which i have used would be devil kernel (jb 4.2) , purely because of a 439 mb ram optionum amount of ram which can be found usable at the moment. This mode however disables the camera completely. Also it has options for overclocking.
I personally use the 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz clock speed for processor.
2) Try to use a debloated rom, and then try to use as less gapps as possible i.e. try to use the slim version of the gapps for the rom or install the gapps which u require manually. The gapps are not shown normally but under google services so u cant hibernate them with greenify. SO its better to not have unused gapps and features like face unlock ets.
3) Instead of using task managers, use greenify so that apps do not restart again. And try to hibernate all apps which u dont require. Apps like facebook, g+ and whatsapp are the biggest ram hoggers. Also beware of google maps cuz it does not hibernates(uses 30-40 mb ram)
4) Disable services like email exchange etc which are not used by you at all.
5)I have seen that restarting the phone helps get rid of some google core services, giving more free ram.
6) There is an option in developer settings at the bottom in apps section, set background app limit to none and also check the option "don't keep activities". Do this just before gaming and then undo them after ur done or else it will prevent any form of multi tasking.
7)Try to use light weight launchers, and no widgets(as these themselve are like an extra process which need to run in background). I am using sicksky launcher(uses just 18 mb). other options are zeam and lightning launcher.
NOTE : anyone using stock samsung rom (2.3.6), they should switch over to a custom rom, because samsung rom is completely not for gamers. most of the system processes are hard to kill , also total available ram is only (316-330) vs jb ( total ram usable is 390- 439). However if
u dont wanna change ur rom, greenify will still help, also disabling services.
Conclusion: I am using gamerzrom v4, with devil kernel using 439 mb ram option and 1.2 ghz oc.
I have had no lags in all temple runs (including oz), subway surfer and rr3 on medium graphics, nfs mw. normally using the above tips i have 180-210 + <ram used by settings app> ram free at any moment when i'm checking free ram in settings->apps->running (settings itself is a process and to see total free ram add the amount used by settings to free ram).
Also i have observed that the game devs(mainly gameloft and glu) have now begun to put our phone in low power gpu category(not totally incorrect for an unmodded sgs but not true if u have use the above tricks(especially oc and ram mod)).
so these games often can be modded for higher graphics (various mods on xda for games like nfs mw, rr3, asphalt 7, nova 3 etc) so they can be played with better graphics without lag. I have tried nfs mw mod, asphalt 7 mod, rr3 mod and they all work pretty good on medium(not available normally).
i would love it if more people share their tips on how they keep their phones going strong
Saw this Forum, Even tho im not a Samsung GS1 User, My Buddy has one and i recently gave him my ADJ Values that i use on my Xperia Play (same specs as ur device...) and he said he could do Gaming, Multitasking, and All sorts of more,
Here it is:
Code:
# Pro Gamer ADJ 1.3 By Pizza_Dox
ro.FOREGROUND_APP_ADJ=0
ro.VISIBLE_APP_ADJ=3
ro.PERCEPTIBLE_APP_ADJ=2
ro.HEAVY_WEIGHT_APP_ADJ=3
ro.SECONDARY_SERVER_ADJ=15
ro.BACKUP_APP_ADJ=7
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
ro.HIDDEN_APP_MIN_ADJ=3
ro.EMPTY_APP_ADJ=15
Also if u Wanna Keep the Home Launcher in Ram do this Instead of This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=6
Replace with This:
Code:
ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1
Oh and to apply them just copy to build.prop but make sure their arnt any other ADJ Values, then once done save and reboot!
Hope this helped,
Oh btw try VmLagTunner before Playing Games, Or install Permanently!
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darkknigh_t said:
Yes the i9000 has sold alot but ive been looking at the dev section and people are moving on slowly :/ which is a shame. Our phones have enough power for now but for how long i think that at lot of devs will leave the i9000 which makes me sad but what can you do.
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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Well, our I9000s are almost 4 year old so no doubt that the development is gonna be worse, cause newer devices are being released.
Anyway, 4.2 seems to work bad on our phones so I really doubt that 4.3 will be any better. It just seems that the new JellyBean more performance than our phones can offer.
Sooner or later we all will switch to something newer
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I dont know about that im running gamerzrom 4.2 and its running great i think 4.2 can run fine just needs a little more work and time but yea will have to move on to a new phone :/
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Hi, how's everyone?
When i bought my nexus 4 before like 7 months it was pretty good, and can handle heavy games like modern combat 4 and Asphalt 8 in high graphics, Now i cant even enjoy playing those games because of frames lags and stuff.
Could you please tell me what i should do? I tried to flash factory image still didn't solve thus problem.
Running Purity ROM with Hells core Kernel #V56
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Led_ce4arab said:
Hi, how's everyone?
When i bought my nexus 4 before like 7 months it was pretty good, and can handle heavy games like modern combat 4 and Asphalt 8 in high graphics, Now i cant even enjoy playing those games because of frames lags and stuff.
Could you please tell me what i should do? I tried to flash factory image still didn't solve thus problem.
Running Purity ROM with Hells core Kernel #V56
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A different ROM won't make any difference, unless it has its own kernel with some performance tweaks. Set CPU to On Demand, and GPU to Performance. Might make a difference. You could try a kernel with overclock, like AK, but you should make increases incrementally and keep an eye (or hand) on possible overheating.
If you were able to run things before, but now things are lagging with the same settings, It'll be because you've got extra crap running the background hogging resources.
I think Hells Core b57 can help u, dude. I tested this kernel w/ some heavy games and it did very well :3. But, play so many heavy games w/ that kernel can make ur battery drain very fast w/ b57 version include ur phone will be heat up @@
Led_ce4arab said:
Hi, how's everyone?
When i bought my nexus 4 before like 7 months it was pretty good, and can handle heavy games like modern combat 4 and Asphalt 8 in high graphics, Now i cant even enjoy playing those games because of frames lags and stuff.
Could you please tell me what i should do? I tried to flash factory image still didn't solve thus problem.
Running Purity ROM with Hells core Kernel #V56
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PARANOID ANDROID or CYANOGENMOD.
You can't go wrong with either of these ROMS
Plus you can download Franco's kernel for PA.
Under the CPU governer choose performance. This will cause all your cores to run at 1.5ghz regardless of the load on your system. Hence maximizing performance
There's a temperature throttling option in Franco kernel.
Google sets its GPU throttling at 37 Celcius. So when your phone heats up, the performance decreases.
You can actually override this default temperature so you'll get a better performance in the LONGER RUN.
Just don't crank it up too high. We don't want your phone to be extra hot.
But 37 degrees celcius is way too low when compared to other phone GPU throttling temperature.
Thanks everyone!
That really helped me.
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Hello MOTO G2 users,
I have been testing a lot of setting to get the best out of the stock lollipop (u can try on custom ROMS too with appropriate(optimus kernel by Flashhhh works ) kernel) on our device. After lots of flukes and changing of setting I got the device to perform its best.
If u want to try u can go ahead, but I am not responsible if anything happens to ur device
ROOT REQUIRED(Obviously)
Requirements:
1. Stellar Kernel v3.0(recommended for stock not for custom rom): http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/stock-stellarkernel-v1-t3085277
2. Kernel Adiutor app (Download from playstore)
3. Optimus kernel (Only for custom ROMS not for stock)
Steps:
1. Open the kernel adiutor app (The stellar kernel should already be installed)
2. Set the settings as given below:
CPU:
Cpu max frequency: 1190 MHz
Cpu min Frequency: 300 MHz
Governor: interactive(mostly) or ondemand (I recommend ondemand only when u are sleeping as it saves battery)
Multicore power saving: Aggressive (U can keep it disabled if u want)
(Leave other settings as it is)
CPU Hotplug:
MPDecision: Off
Intelliplug: ON
Profile: Eco performance or balanced
Touch boost: On
MSM Hotplug: ON
Debug Mask: ON
CPUs Boosted: 4 (Adjust ur way)
Max cores screen off: ur choice
(Leave other settings as it is)
GPU:
GPU max frequency: 320MHz (u can try 450)
CPU governor: msm adreno tz
Simple Gpu Algorithm : ON
Laziness: 4
Ramp Threshold : 6
Low Memory Killer:
Foreground Application: 6MB
Visible " " : 8MB
Secondary Server: 16MB
Hidden Application: 20MB
Content Providers: 22MB
Empty application: 24MB
[Or u can apply this value easily using the scripts by selecting super multitasking profile (temp) from rt ram manger page in android development section]
(Thanks to Diamond Bond For this Values)
Thanks To:
@zakee94 :For the kernel
@DiamondBond : For the Script
@Flashhhh for optimus kernel
I really thank the developers for the works they have done for our device. Without them this was not achievable.:good::good::fingers-crossed:
I have really done nothing but only triend configuring the setting. All main work goes to those two developer.
I would recommend keeping a ram cleaner on ur device if ur ram usage goes high
Install greenify to hibernate useless apps.
Press Thanks if this helped you.
Send me ur experience after applying this.:good:
If u find something more better u can post it here
Vedant Mistry said:
If u find something more better u can post it here
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Dont suggest users to use the M option which removes the bootanimation bin, it dosnt help suggest them to use xposed with the backported mem-leak fix module and an lmk profile from my script (different profiles work for different people), but otherwise, nice guide, ive been meaning to post something like this for a while!
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Dont suggest users to use the M option which removes the bootanimation bin, it dosnt help suggest them to use xposed with the backported mem-leak fix module and an lmk profile from my script (different profiles work for different people), but otherwise, nice guide, ive been meaning to post something like this for a while!
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Many people dont use xposed though.
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Many people dont use xposed though.
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Well i would just for the mem leak fix
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Well i would just for the mem leak fix
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Me too
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Tried this setting on Flex OS and CM 12.1 with optimus kernel.. And it works:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
Memory leak fix not required i guess
smartmax profile works perfect in my case.
Ya its good, but it may cause your phone to over heat.... Its upon you to choose governors but dont mess with low mem kill values:thumbup:
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I never faced overheat problem with smartmax (Using it from tha past three days).
Vedant Mistry said:
I would recommend keeping a ram cleaner on ur device if ur ram usage goes high
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And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
codified said:
And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
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@Vedant Mistry Bit harsh, but its true that memory killers don't work on android, purely because of the way that memory management is handled on android. The whole system is set up to use lots of ram. Ram use isn't bad, CPU use is. If you use a task killer to free up more ram, android will just restart the service and use extra CPU in doing so, plus your phone will be slower because you haven't got the cached data already there in the ram. Free ram on android is wasted ram.
So, that, in a nutshell, is why the insult (however harsh) was flung.
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Duck86 said:
@Vedant Mistry Bit harsh, but its true that memory killers don't work on android, purely because of the way that memory management is handled on android. The whole system is set up to use lots of ram. Ram use isn't bad, CPU use is. If you use a task killer to free up more ram, android will just restart the service and use extra CPU in doing so, plus your phone will be slower because you haven't got the cached data already there in the ram. Free ram on android is wasted ram.
So, that, in a nutshell, is why the insult (however harsh) was flung.
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And this was all I needed to know that you are a complete moron who is just posting random drivel
I'm out
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First of all, I never told that I was some superhero(pro) that would give the 100% guarantee of this guide working for all. And I also know that free ram on android is wasted ram. But based on my experience with stock ROM running those low memory killer values, the ram usage goes high on running lot of apps e.g. 740mb/848mb and the phone just lags like hell. So by cleaning your ram (more like Memory boost) you can get out of the lag.
And if you don't want to follow this guide don't follow it but don't kill/be harsh on me. I have already written in the thread that any new suggestions are welcomed. I found this working so I posted it.
Vedant Mistry said:
First of all, I never told that I was some superhero(pro) that would give the 100% guarantee of this guide working for all. And I also know that free ram on android is wasted ram. But based on my experience with stock ROM running those low memory killer values, the ram usage goes high on running lot of apps e.g. 740mb/848mb and the phone just lags like hell. So by cleaning your ram (more like Memory boost) you can get out of the lag.
And if you don't want to follow this guide don't follow it but don't kill/be harsh on me. I have already written in the thread that any new suggestions are welcomed. I found this working so I posted it.
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Hey I wasn't trying to kill anything, or be harsh on you. I was just trying to clarify why the other guy was If it works for you, go for it. I'm all for experimentation and fresh ideas
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virtual memory
dirty ratio 65
dirty background 65
disrty background centisecs 1200
dirty expire centisecs 2500
swappiness 100
vfs cache pressure 30
Cpu governer- zzmoove
Min freq-96000hz
Gpu- simple ondemand; 450mhz; laziness-7
I/o scheduler- zen or fiops regarding ur usage....
Fiops if u prefer multitask
Zen if u want normal daily use
MSM MPDECISION - ON with default values
For more juice u can use Leandroid......
this settings work well for me
Thnx to "blind rodro" for helping me out
Rom- euphoria( by sarath)
Kernel- optimus r6( by flashhh)
Model- xt1068(lol by motorola ?????)