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SGS2 and AT&T Questions Thread - I have A lot of questions!!

Howdy,
Full disclosure - I plan to cross post this thread of different Android forums, so don't get irritated with me!
A little back story - I've been an Iphone owner since the beginning and truly love the Apple ecosystem. However, I started to get downright bored with the phone and the restrictions placed upon it. I'm sorry but if you are not "allowed" to even custom change your SMS tone what does that say? Plus....I have an Ipad
Now, I have the Samsung Infuse (AT&T) and I love it. However, I one that likes to have the latest and greatest and am willing to pay the money for it. Also, if I am going to be locked into AT&T for at least 2 years, I want a phone that is future proof. Now, I know the Galaxy S2 is suppose to come out soon, however, I am currently in my 30 day window and may not be able to wait that long. Therefore, my plan is to by the Galaxy S2 while I still keep my Infuse and test them both over the next 30 days.
With that said, I have a couple of questions:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
Thank you all soooooooooooo kindly for helping me. I appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

angieutc said:
1. I'm live in TN, so of course I will be buying unlocked to use on AT&T. What do I have to do to make the Galaxy work? Can I just put my current sim card into that phone?
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Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
2. What are the downsides to buying a phone unlocked? Who takes on the responsibility if something happens to it? I do plan to buy insurance.
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You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
3. Which vendor would you buy from? I'm leaning towards Amazon but am open to other options.
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See 2.
4. Have any of you all done a test drive as I plan to do but sent back because you didn't want? Will the company take it back?
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
5. Should I expect to have the same fast speeds with the S2 as I have now with the Infuse? or will there be a downgrade in service because it's unlocked?
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It should be the same.
6. S2, Infuse, or Iphone....that is the question?????
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I'm not your mother.
7. MOST IMPORTANT - How is call quality and GPS functionality. I need both to be on point.
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Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
9. Any app incompatibility issues with the phone? Gingerbread?
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Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.

BarryH_GEG said:
Yes. It works out of the box. You can also save some money by telling AT&T you're replacing the Infuse with a Motorola Krzr and changing to the dumb-phone $10.00 per month unlimited data plan. Do a search for more info.
You can't buy insurance. If you buy it from either Handtec or Clove in the UK or Expansys-USA it'll be covered by Samsung's two year warranty. All others, you're on your own.
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Since its not from a carrier there is no remorse period. You can only exchange it for defects.
It should be the same.
I'm not your mother.
Good for me. I can't imagine it being much different than the Infuse.
Nothing specific or out of the ordinary has been reported. If there's apps that are critical for you post them and ask if others have used them successfully.
There are some other benefits. Since the phone's carrier unmolested there are no software or hardware changes made to it. You also get updates directly from Samsung which seem to be coming with incredible speed.
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Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions

Purchased mine from Handtec, and it was shipped right after it was released in the UK. I can't see myself ever buying another AT&T branded & neutered/downgraded subsidized phone ever again.
The phone is simply awesome. In a sense, this is the first time I've felt a device *could* last me longer than the usual 1 year refresh cycle. Reason for this is simply because of its sheer processing power. For instance, I just revised my framework-res.apk file last night to have the browser ALWAYS load the desktop version of websites instead of the dumbed down mobile websites that both Android and Apple devices default to. I can actually do this and live with the performance because unlike other phones, desktop version of websites on the SGSII are no slower than the mobile/wap versions... they are as fast and fluid as viewing them on a notebook computer. And, this is even before the SGSII's hardware is properly supported as I believe the current Gingerbread 2.3.3 OS doesn't fully support dual core quite yet.
The only downfall I see is what I'm experiencing with my 2 buddies (previous IPhone users) that I talked into getting an SGSII. Don't get me wrong, they love the phone and would never see themselves going back to Apple. But, they now have to rely on me to do a lot of the tweaking for them because editing system files, decompiling/editing/compiling apks, flashing with Odin... they simply aren't comfortable with all that yet, especially since Apple handed them everything on a silver platter (to which they blindly accepted everytime). They'll get there, but for the time being, I've been labeled the local Android Guru/Master/Swamy/etc.
Other than those points, I echo Barry's feedback verbatim. And, I do hope your Mom is more attractive than Barry, I can barely stand the sight of him on a good day.

angieutc said:
Thank you Barry! Very helpful answers except for number 6! No. 4 is the reason I probably won't buy. I just don't want to be stuck with a phone I may not like. Decisions..decisions
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I was kidding with 6. It's obviously a personal decision. See if anyone that lives near you or in a city that you travel to will let you play with theirs. I love my phone, it's rock solid, and can't think of anything I'd want instead. But again, that's just a personal opinion.

A warning to those thinking about exchanging a Cyber Monday Moto X

EDIT: Despite what the CSR below told me, they do offer exchanges. You can do an 'advance return' where they will put a hold on your CC for the full amount of a new device, give you a code to buy a new one, and release the hold when they receive your old device so you're still only charged the original discounted amount. However, you can not exchange a discounted Moto X for one of the new Bamboo ones (read here)
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I've been looking into the details on exchanging a custom Moto X and was just told via chat that they do not do true "exchanges". Rather, they just have you return the phone, refund you, and have you buy another. So you wouldn't be able to get an exchanged one with the $150 discount. Here's the transcript.
Desiree: Hi, my name is Desiree. How may I help you?
Me: I have a question about the 14 day exchange policy
Me: I am planning on buying a device tonight with the $150 off promotion
Desiree: I will be more than happy to assist you on this.
Desiree: Go ahead, please.
Me: If I don't like my design and want to exchange it within the 14 day window, will I still be able to get a redesigned device at the discounted price?
Desiree: My apologies, the $150 off promotion will not be applicable to the exchange device,
Me: Ok so then you don't really offer exchanges, just returns?
Desiree: My apologies about this but that is how it works.
Me: ok thank you
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However, Motorola Support's twitter contradicts what this CSR said:
https://twitter.com/MotorolaSupport/status/412766868240220160.

detonation said:
The Moto X exchange policy listed on the site says:
I've been looking into the details on this, and apparently they don't really do a true "exchange". Rather, they just have you return the phone, refund you, and have you buy another. The one re-design mentioned above applies to when you buy it on contract and get a Moto Maker PIN (in that case, you send the phone back and they give you a new PIN rather than a refund). I just confirmed all this in chat:
So if you don't like your design or were hoping to switch it out for a wood one (if they come out in the next 2 weeks), you're going to have to pay full price for the new one.
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Good to know! Just ordered a phone for my brother, hopefully he will not be disappointed with his choices, hahaha.

We here's the real fact if you happen to get a defective one. They do an advance return if you choose it. They are authorize your card just like the nexus exchange after they send you a link to a new build with the same specs (you customize it but it locks in whatever memory config and model you chose before). They then go ahead and build your replacement and ship it. After they receive the return (that they pay to ship back!) They will remove the charge for the new device... Or the authorization. So really, with defects you don't lose out on your deal. I don't know about voluntary returns... But with defects, I'm in the process of it right now and paid the initial order with a coupon.
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Updated the OP, it's possible that that CSR was wrong as their twitter states you can exchange it (likely via the method mentioned above). Eitherway, it's annoying their own support can't give consistent answers.

Yeah, I suspect that you can get it exchanged and that their support is either confused or misinformed.
They state that you can exchange your device. Whatever internal process they use for that is not your problem: an exchange is an exchange, and it should result in zero dollars being paid.

binary visions said:
They state that you can exchange your device. Whatever internal process they use for that is not your problem: an exchange is an exchange, and it should result in zero dollars being paid.
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I strongly suspect that since I've unlocked my Tmo bootloader, I'm stuck with no chance of exchange.

Cubfan99 said:
I strongly suspect that since I've unlocked my Tmo bootloader, I'm stuck with no chance of exchange.
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Well, maybe, but that has nothing to do with the Cyber Monday deal - which was the original question.

binary visions said:
Yeah, I suspect that you can get it exchanged and that their support is either confused or misinformed.
They state that you can exchange your device. Whatever internal process they use for that is not your problem: an exchange is an exchange, and it should result in zero dollars being paid.
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They would not do an exchange for me when I had camera issues. I was told their process is to return the unit either for repair or refund, no exchanges.

robjulo said:
They would not do an exchange for me when I had camera issues. I was told their process is to return the unit either for repair or refund, no exchanges.
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What, exactly, does that have to do with exchanging a Motomaker device for a different color?
Motorola explicitly states that they will exchange a device within 14 days for a different color configuration. The point is that it doesn't matter how Motorola looks at an "exchange" - any discounts to the original sale would still apply.

My advice: don't waste your time with the chat reps.
As Jayrod said, they do exchanges. What they do is they send you a new "special pin" through email that lets you re-order on MotoMaker (you input the pin at the end). This can be accomplished without a charge on your CC (they give you two options: advance replacement, or regular replacement).
You can replace OR refund even if it is not defective and if you just don't like the colors and even if you open the factory sealed box.

Well the Moto FAQ on the Bamboo back has answered the question a lot of people have been wondering:
I purchased a Moto X from Moto Maker using the a holiday promotion code. Can I switch it to a Moto X with Bamboo?
If your phone falls within our return period, you can return it for a refund of the original purchase price and re-purchase a Moto X with Bamboo. However, the Holiday discount you received will not apply.
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detonation said:
Well the Moto FAQ on the Bamboo back has answered the question a lot of people have been wondering:
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Yikes... so then, it's $250 more for Bamboo. Your head would have to be made of wood to exchange for the wood phone.

Cubfan99 said:
Yikes... so then, it's $250 more for Bamboo. Your head would have to be made of wood to exchange for the wood phone.
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Pretty much. Maybe if the phone had a Snapdragon 800 and a much better camera I would do it because the phone would be a little more future proof. As it is though, I doubt I'll keep this phone much more than 6 months and definitely not more than a year. As good as the phone is, there is plenty of room for improvement and if I was paying $250 for wood, I wouldn't want the phone to become outdated as quickly as this might.

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Pretty much. Maybe if the phone had a Snapdragon 800 and a much better camera I would do it because the phone would be a little more future proof. As it is though, I doubt I'll keep this phone much more than 6 months and definitely not more than a year. As good as the phone is, there is plenty of room for improvement and if I was paying $250 for wood, I wouldn't want the phone to become outdated as quickly as this might.
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I agree.
If this phone had the latest and greatest then I can see shelling out that much for a Bamboo back. The Snapdragon 800 should last you a long time into the future. It's too expensive for me is all I'll say. Someone out there will definitely want a phone with a natural back even at the price it commands. I'm sure the process to make these type of backs was very complicated, but it would had made sense to have these out from release date. Hopefully the next version of this phone isn't too far off. The concept of it is really awesome and even with now mid range specs the experience is truly amazing.

I don't see the Moto's X specs being a hindrance to moving forward to next year. Slow down? Maybe a bit, but not too much as to say you will want to scrap it right away. After all the X8 chip is something done right.

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I don't see the Moto's X specs being a hindrance to moving forward to next year. Slow down? Maybe a bit, but not too much as to say you will want to scrap it right away. After all the X8 chip is something done right.
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I agree!
I think everyone is needlessly scared about the specs on this device. I just purchased a Moto X and have been using it for 2 weeks now, and have seen no reason to believe it will be out of date before the 1 year mark of my ownership. You really cannot compare the Moto X to other smartphones out right now. It's doing at least two things that no other phone is doing (touchless control, always listening and the active notifications), and it was built with those features in mind. That "crappy" 720p AMOLED screen is such that it is because if you went with a 1080p AMOLED or LCD screen, it would blow through your battery. The "slow" dual core processor runs the OS just fine, and the other CPUs handle the special features instead of the main CPU. Have naysayers actually used the Moto X and compared it to the Nexus 5 (arguable the best comparison of KitKat vs KitKat)? I have. I see absolutely NO performance difference between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, based on things I actually do day-to-day (none of these silly numbers only benchmarks that don't really give you a real representation of how the phone will perform for you).
From a financial perspective, maybe at this point, sure - be skeptical about if it's worth the money to get one, or just wait until September to purchase the next iteration. Then again, if you wait even longer, something even better will be out.
Not being made of money, I have started just purchasing the device that I think is the best device available to me at the time and sticking with it for a year (or longer, if it keeps performing well, and nothing else at that time interests me). Any "flagship" device that you purchase right this minute should last you one year just fine, even if it's already 6 months old. The Moto X should perform just fine until at least next October when we can start thinking about the next big update to Android.

Anyone had luck getting them to do an advance exchange on a dev edition?

laur3n.newm4n said:
I agree!
I think everyone is needlessly scared about the specs on this device. I just purchased a Moto X and have been using it for 2 weeks now, and have seen no reason to believe it will be out of date before the 1 year mark of my ownership. You really cannot compare the Moto X to other smartphones out right now. It's doing at least two things that no other phone is doing (touchless control, always listening and the active notifications), and it was built with those features in mind. That "crappy" 720p AMOLED screen is such that it is because if you went with a 1080p AMOLED or LCD screen, it would blow through your battery. The "slow" dual core processor runs the OS just fine, and the other CPUs handle the special features instead of the main CPU. Have naysayers actually used the Moto X and compared it to the Nexus 5 (arguable the best comparison of KitKat vs KitKat)? I have. I see absolutely NO performance difference between the Moto X and the Nexus 5, based on things I actually do day-to-day (none of these silly numbers only benchmarks that don't really give you a real representation of how the phone will perform for you).
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Very well stated and I agree. I have been bouncing around all of the flagships of late (N5, G2, HTC One) and finally landed on X. I am surprised at how peppy it is and do not notice any difference in performance next to the N5. Now I don't game at all on my phones but for everyday use the X is fantastic. I like the features and the fact that I can be rooted and still under warranty. Also I love that I don't have to obsess over roms like I was on the N5 and HTC One. Go Moto!!!! Obey Google Now!

How long does it take them to refund you after you send it back?
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sankyou said:
Very well stated and I agree. I have been bouncing around all of the flagships of late (N5, G2, HTC One) and finally landed on X. I am surprised at how peppy it is and do not notice any difference in performance next to the N5. Now I don't game at all on my phones but for everyday use the X is fantastic. I like the features and the fact that I can be rooted and still under warranty. Also I love that I don't have to obsess over roms like I was on the N5 and HTC One. Go Moto!!!! Obey Google Now!
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I was SO READY for a device that just WORKED. One that I didn't feel obligated to unlock, root, and flash a ROM every other weekend to keep it updated with the developer's bug fixes, because it lacked features I wanted or had a terrible OEM skin on it. I haven't even considered rooting my Moto X. Finally, a device from a manufacturer with a UI that's just barely kissed by OEM features, and features that are actually relevant. Coupled with the fact that Motorola usually has the best radios? I'm sold on "good guy Moto" again.

Buy an OPO Oneplus One without invite?

Hi.
I´m new at this forum. I have been reading it for years, but now I have decided to sign in. I would like to ask you about the OPO. I have been waiting for an invite several weeks in diferent webs, but without prize, so I have been searching for a good supplier. You would buy an OPO without invite? I want this phone and as I have been waiting for more than 8 weeks I want to buy it now. I have found a supplier that looks good, and with a very good price, may I post the link here to get checked by you? I have been talking with him and he can set an special price for the forum if there is people interested in it. Waiting for your reply. Have a nice day:good:
Please note that I´m not trying to do spam, I have no posted the link yet because I don´t want problems. If you want the link posted I´ll post it here.

My buddy is trying to sell his, he said its to big for his liking.
Its the 64gb model Blackstone. He has only used it a hand full of times.
Glass screen protector installed and 2 cases
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I would highly advise that you don't. The version you'll receive is most likely the Chinese OPO which has limited bands for connectivity.

Kerjifire said:
I would highly advise that you don't. The version you'll receive is most likely the Chinese OPO which has limited bands for connectivity.
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I have been reading about this, I´ll use the phone in Europe so I wouldn´t have any problem right?
Thanks for your help.

Juaanjo said:
I have been reading about this, I´ll use the phone in Europe so I wouldn´t have any problem right?
Thanks for your help.
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Additionally I would ask whether or not his version comes with ColorOS or CM otherwise you may have to flash CM over it. Sorry I don't know the bands for Europe, I couldn't tell you.

Given OPO can't seem to make enough international versions and so ship straight from the factory to consumers, I'd agree these are likely to be the Chinese edition which anyone can get relatively easily. There's LTE unknowns as well as warranty concerns.
Plus, the term 'special price' almost always means a tidy profit for those involved except the buyer. Not something I'd get involved with given the risks and unknowns.
I would guard against linking anything as, despite claims to the contrary, the OP has more than a whiff of a sales pitch about it that aims to attract PMs.

kinghu said:
Given OPO can't seem to make enough international versions and so ship straight from the factory to consumers, I'd agree these are likely to be the Chinese edition which anyone can get relatively easily. There's LTE unknowns as well as warranty concerns.
Plus, the term 'special price' almost always means a tidy profit for those involved except the buyer. Not something I'd get involved with given the risks and unknowns.
I would guard against linking anything as, despite claims to the contrary, the OP has more than a whiff of a sales pitch about it that aims to attract PMs.
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Im only asking about if you would buy in another store, not trying to sell anything. I didin´t want to post links to avoid problems, I was only asking, not trying anything. I chatted with the seller and he said that is the Chinese edition and can sell the phone for 357,99$ instead 421$ that appears in his advert, and I want only to ask if its a good price and if you would buy it if were me. Hope to get this solved, I only want help, anything more. I have been reading about the bands and seems like will work in Europe, but if someone can confirm this would be great.

Juaanjo said:
Im only asking about if you would buy in another store, not trying to sell anything. I didin´t want to post links to avoid problems, I was only asking, not trying anything. I chatted with the seller and he said that is the Chinese edition and can sell the phone for 357,99$ instead 421$ that appears in his advert, and I want only to ask if its a good price and if you would buy it if were me. Hope to get this solved, I only want help, anything more. I have been reading about the bands and seems like will work in Europe, but if someone can confirm this would be great.
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I have a Chinese OPO purchased from Aliexpress. I'm using it in Europe (Greece) and it works just fine. Never had any issues with dropped calls and mobile data works great. Everything is as stable as you'd expect.
Bought the 64GB white version for 350 euros including shipping through FedEx. All in all, yes I'd recommend buying outside of the invite system if you do your research beforehand.
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So you do get 4g in greece with chinese opo?

If you live outside America you should pretty much be fine with the bands the Chinese One Plus supports: Importing the One Plus One From China - LTE Bands & What You Need To Know
Do your research and you will be fine, importing is the way to go. I've had the phone for over 2 months now and am loving it. :good:

I bought mines from swappa. International version 64gb Sandstone

I just bought the 64GB Chinese model from Hong Kong Goldway on Aliexpress yesterday. Waiting for it to ship and should have it next week hopefully. The bands work fine here so no dramas. AU$500 total which included 3 day DHL shipping. I'm from the UK so getting a flagship phone like this for 280 GBP is amazing.

Bought the 16gb version from to2c.com
Could choose between color os and multilanguage version. Chose for the second one and had it in two weeks (to the netherlands). Everything works fine. Connectivity is good. Only 4g is very limited
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I'm supposed to buy one today. The package is sealed, but I'm concerned about service and warranty for the phone since I didn't purchase it under the invite system. Should I buy it? I heard some yellow screen, touch screen, sound issues, etc.

alhadee12 said:
I'm supposed to buy one today. The package is sealed, but I'm concerned about service and warranty for the phone since I didn't purchase it under the invite system. Should I buy it? I heard some yellow screen, touch screen, sound issues, etc.
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If you're outside of China you're likely going to have support and service issues should you need it, regardless of where you bought the phone.
From my OPO

kinghu said:
If you're outside of China you're likely going to have support and service issues should you need it, regardless of where you bought the phone.
From my OPO
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Would you say the phone is worth those service support issues because I travel a lot?

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got mine from swappa as well

alhadee12 said:
Would you say the phone is worth those service support issues because I travel a lot?
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Will it be your daily driver? If so, I'd look at something that I could get repaired easily and quickly in places I traveled to. Preferably something with a lot of worldwide service centers. Or have two phones (not necessarily two of the same) in case one needed to be repaired for a certain period of time.
If you read the various OPO boards, you'll know just getting a support ticket acknowledged can take time. Additionally, if you travel frequently, you might not be in one place long enough to hang around for a replacement to be sent to your location. A walk-in, no fuss model like Apple does with it's stores is a good 'safety net'. But it costs.
I run two phones. Either my 5s or M7 as primary with OPO as my backup since I'm mostly ROM testing at the moment. Wouldn't have a problem with the OPO as primary but I'd not take it as my only phone. And no way would I use just an OPO if traveling or on business for the reasons above.

kinghu said:
Will it be your daily driver? If so, I'd look at something that I could get repaired easily and quickly in places I traveled to. Preferably something with a lot of worldwide service centers. Or have two phones (not necessarily two of the same) in case one needed to be repaired for a certain period of time.
If you read the various OPO boards, you'll know just getting a support ticket acknowledged can take time. Additionally, if you travel frequently, you might not be in one place long enough to hang around for a replacement to be sent to your location. A walk-in, no fuss model like Apple does with it's stores is a good 'safety net'. But it costs.
I run two phones. Either my 5s or M7 as primary with OPO as my backup since I'm mostly ROM testing at the moment. Wouldn't have a problem with the OPO as primary but I'd not take it as my only phone. And no way would I use just an OPO if traveling or on business for the reasons above.
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I'll be looking for a different device because I can't afford those issues.

Benelux thread

so... you're from belgium/netherlands/benelux? want to get your hands on a nexus 6? allready know where to get one?
whatever! let's keep each other posted! follow this thread

hyeclass said:
so... you're from belgium/netherlands/benelux? want to get your hands on a nexus 6? allready know where to get one?
whatever! let's keep each other posted! follow this thread
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Yes. Tweakers sucks with their overbearing mods. It's so oddly formal and stodgy over there. Let's keep each other abreast of the latest!

What's wrong with Tweakers?
I don't visit their often, because I don't speak Dutch that well.
Anyway, from what I read, the pre-order won't start before November 18, 2014. I don't know if that's true.
http://androidworld.nl/nieuws/nexus-6-pre-order-uitgesteld-tot-18-november/
And it would be sucks if the store only have 32GB version.
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Yes. Tweakers sucks with their Nazi - like mods. It's so oddly formal and stodgy over there. Let's keep each other abreast of the latest!
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gogol said:
What's wrong with Tweakers?
I don't visit their often, because I don't speak Dutch that well.
Anyway, from what I read, the pre-order won't start before November 18, 2014. I don't know if that's true.
http://androidworld.nl/nieuws/nexus-6-pre-order-uitgesteld-tot-18-november/
And it would be sucks if the store only have 32GB version.
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I wouldn't mind the 32gb version, owned a 64 gb htc and I never really used the extra space, don't really store a lot of pictures/music on my phone...
but my LG G3 screen just broke and it hurts to wait that long... if that's just the pre order then shipping will be at least a week later

I just hope it get released (in NLD) through Google Play, but the feeling I got after the way US got treated on the pre-orders we're pretty much screwed. Seems that on previous devices the Play Store price was (slightly) lower than with 3rd party retailers.
All I need is a confirmed date and price, so I can decide to wait for it or move on. My S3 is slowly losing it so I want to replace it in the next 2-3 months.
If it gets a release / pre-order for €565 for 32GB, then I'm buying. Midnight Blue!
32GB will be enough for me, I got the same amount on my S3 at the moment. If I need more storage, there's Drive, Dropbox, etc.
And yes, Tweakers can get a bit "formal" at times

The Nexus 9 is now available for pre-order in the NL store. I don't think I've seen a Nexus device of any sort so soon appear. Gives me a slight bit of hope at least for the appearance of the Nexus 6.

so... you're from antarctica? want to get your hands on a nexus 6? allready know where to get one?
whatever! let's keep each other posted! follow this thread

Also hoping to get it soon by play store or Else. Perhaps mediamarkt germany are selling them again quick. Got my Nexus 5 there.....

leontine said:
Also hoping to get it soon by play store or Else. Perhaps mediamarkt germany are selling them again quick. Got my Nexus 5 there.....
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what about warrenty? is it still 2 years?

I really don't know about the warranty, I've never had problems and buy every year the new model so......

leontine said:
I really don't know about the warranty, I've never had problems and buy every year the new model so......
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I bought an htc one x+ from vandenborre, 2 years later got to return it for an lg g3 <3 so if they get the nexus 6 there, I'd rather buy it from them.

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what about warrenty? is it still 2 years?
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Yes. 2 years.
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I bought an htc one x+ from vandenborre, 2 years later got to return it for an lg g3 <3 so if they get the nexus 6 there, Id rather buy it from them.
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What do you mean that you got to return it?

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Yes. 2 years.
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What do you mean that you got to return it?
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well I had some trouble with the screen where it would start to flicker and automatically shutdown the phone... after 3 repairs the proble m was not fixed the fourth time I got to pick a new phone.... with new warrenty :/
<3 vandenborre
tv hifi electro... hahah

Interesting story there. Here, the stores always refer to the manufacture's warranty and leave it up to the brand to fix or replace it. That's pretty good customer service, for Europe at least.

Retailers are obligated to handle warranty issues in the Netherlands, not the manufacturer.
Also a 2-year warranty period is issued to consumer electronics.

Based on the last few years, I think the retailers here are always late, compare to UK or Germany. But, probably that's how it works on this kind of industry, I don't know why. I bet the retailer in Germany would get it sooner.
But, checking the Nexus 9 on the Play Store The Netherlands, it is THERE available, leaving warehouse in just 1 - 2 days. And the Nexus 9 is officially on sale starting today. Thus, Play Store is not late!
I hope, this would be the same with Nexus 6. If any indication, it could be November 12, as said by T-Mobile U.S. And heard the "full review embargo" would be lifted that day as well.
We can only hope, can't we?

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Based on the last few years, I think the retailers here are always late, compare to UK or Germany. But, probably that's how it works on this kind of industry, I don't know why. I bet the retailer in Germany would get it sooner.
But, checking the Nexus 9 on the Play Store The Netherlands, it is THERE available, leaving warehouse in just 1 - 2 days. And the Nexus 9 is officially on sale starting today. Thus, Play Store is not late!
I hope, this would be the same with Nexus 6. If any indication, it could be November 12, as said by T-Mobile U.S. And heard the "full review embargo" would be lifted that day as well.
We can only hope, can't we?
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yes we kunnen sure hopen!

And if we do get forgotten on the N6...
This Moto might be released here:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/...-variant-for-non-us-markets-spotted-on-google
But I counting on the N6 being released here. Coolblue also has the N6 set for pre-orders starting from 18-10.
They provide the option of email notification when it can be ordered.
If we could only get conformation of the price tag...

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Retailers are obligated to handle warranty issues in the Netherlands, not the manufacturer.
Also a 2-year warranty period is issued to consumer electronics.
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Wait, if something goes wrong with a device and it needs to be serviced or possibly replaced, what does the retailer have to do with it beyond the return date? Or, can you really bring the device in to the retailer and have them arrange service?

floepie said:
Wait, if something goes wrong with a device and it needs to be serviced or possibly replaced, what does the retailer have to do with it beyond the return date? Or, can you really bring the device in to the retailer and have them arrange service?
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Yes.
According to Dutch consumer laws the retailer is obliged to extend warranty services during two years.
Either they get it fixed or replaced, that is up to retailer.
Of course, if the defect isn't covered by warranty costs may apply.

VZW Info

From what I understand it will be available Dec 13th.
This is what the chat rep said when I just asked her when it'll be available on VZW
EDIT: asked her about pre-orders too and she said she is unsure, but to check on Thursday cause that's when they expect it.

I spoke with a rep also at Costco about 4 days ago and he said they expect to see them in a week or so

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From what I understand it will be available Dec 13th.
This is what the chat rep said when I just asked her when it'll be available on VZW
EDIT: asked her about pre-orders too and she said she is unsure, but to check on Thursday cause that's when they expect it.
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The 13th is a Saturday not Thursday. Chat reps are extremely unreliable sources. Seems unlikely they'd launch a device on a Saturday anyway.

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The 13th is a Saturday not Thursday. Chat reps are extremely unreliable sources. Seems unlikely they'd launch a device on a Saturday anyway.
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That's what I said too, initially.
Skeptical, I asked her why this is. She said the phone is in such high demand that they haven't been able to get stock ready to release it both in-store and online (which is another reason she said they may or may not do pre-orders.) FWIW, I would take it with a grain of salt, but this is a lot better than the response I got last week with them saying it isn't in their system so they do not know/have any idea.
VZW has done it in the past, but just confirming what was said by the redditor.
EDIT: for that reason, I will be watching Wednesday night and Friday morning of next week.

I'm still sporting a December 15th, 2011, Galaxy Nexus from a local corporate store, no repairs or replacements, and it was unlocked and rooted on day one. It's got a few problems, but still works everyday. I'm just wondering what VZW is up to with the Nexus 6 at this point. Is this just another "additional testing" delay, a supply and demand delay, a device QC delay, or all of the above? Or maybe something worse like additional "lock down" software changes? Yes, I know there's only one US model, and yes I know about the carrier software install at setup and how to avoid it (I've read just about everything I can find), but I just don't trust VZW at this point. This GNex still works because of the work done by ME, not because of VZW support of a hobbled Nexus device.

At this point all we can do is speculate until the Nexus 6 finally shows up at Verizon. Could be all of those things you mentioned. Could be they wanted to give the Droid Turbo less competition, or it could be none of those things. Time will tell.
Just crossing my fingers that they'll have the 64GB version available.

Our moto rep just said not to expect them until quarter 1, maybe February. I'm hoping he's wrong...

As stated anything is pure speculation, but if that was the case VZW would have a weird timeline with phones in their history. Historically, they have always gotten devices close to last. I think they were one of the last carriers to have the iPhone, but I don't think that dealt with stock/holding off because they wanted to push their other phones. There was an article about the iPhone and how most carriers lose money with the subsidized price on the actual device, but make more than enough back by the contract. All phone companies are about signing contracts, as that is where they make the most of their money. If you cancel your phone, there are not too many external costs associated with that, but they want to ensure that they get their moneys worth for losing that device/the profit from your remainder of your contract. Holding off on devices actually just hurts them in the long-run, as more devices = more appeal to more demographics = more contract sign-ups, but I think it deals more with contractual agreements, like securing the phone, branding the phone, etc most of the time, but I feel like this might just deal with the low stock. This thing is practically sold out everywhere and hard to find.

Just visited the local verizon store and they said Nexus 6 will be available in the next week or so.

Pic or it never happened...

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I'm still sporting a December 15th, 2011, Galaxy Nexus from a local corporate store, no repairs or replacements, and it was unlocked and rooted on day one. It's got a few problems, but still works everyday. I'm just wondering what VZW is up to with the Nexus 6 at this point. Is this just another "additional testing" delay, a supply and demand delay, a device QC delay, or all of the above? Or maybe something worse like additional "lock down" software changes? Yes, I know there's only one US model, and yes I know about the carrier software install at setup and how to avoid it (I've read just about everything I can find), but I just don't trust VZW at this point. This GNex still works because of the work done by ME, not because of VZW support of a hobbled Nexus device.
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I'm rocking my GNex as well, no issues, on shiny KK, and awaiting a new FML build to jump to 5.0 or 5.0.1 as the case may be.
The fun part is waiting, and reading, because even IF I left it encrypted - I'm coming from a GNex, I don't think I'be able to tell that it may be lagging a bit
(But I'm unlocking, rooting and reflashing that bugger for no encryption anyways .... depending on how VZ does or doesn't screw us again)

We just trimmed my wife's GN sim for her new N6. She wasn't happy with her GN, too many issues (poor reception, etc), and way overdue for an upgrade.