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Just a friendly heads up -- if anything happens to your $400 phone as purchased through brightstar or given to you via Google at a developer's forum, T-Mobile's insurance carrier Asurion will not replace the device with another developer phone. Instead you'll get a stock G1 back. I'm speaking from experience here after exhausting all avenues of redress with Asurion. Don't waste your $5.95/mo, instead purchase it on a credit card and let that coverage handle the replacement.
wow really?!?!?! i thought that if i bought an iPhone and jailbroke it and then returned it to AT&T they would send me another jailbroken iPhone. or if i bought an asus computer and sent it to HP they would send me another new asus. this is really weird that t-mo would replace a phone that they don't carry with a phone that they do. if only some smart person had said on a developers forum:
"don't be an idiot like me and send you phone somewhere other than the place you got it for repair"
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What, exactly, does a jailbroke iPhone have to do with this comment?
-bZj
hahah
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buy a "stock" G1 for $150 and "root" it lol
in his defense he probably got it from t-mo at a developers conference. no need to be testy to the guy.
tubaking182 said:
wow really?!?!?! i thought that if i bought an iPhone and jailbroke it and then returned it to AT&T they would send me another jailbroken iPhone. or if i bought an asus computer and sent it to HP they would send me another new asus. this is really weird that t-mo would replace a phone that they don't carry with a phone that they do. if only some smart person had said on a developers forum:
"don't be an idiot like me and send you phone somewhere other than the place you got it for repair"
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This post has nothing to do with an iPhone... he is simply stating that if you purchase an ADP1, use it on T-Mobile, get the insurance through T-Mobile, and ask for a replacement through T-Mobile... they give you a G1.
There is a different in hardware between the G1 and the ADP1. There is no hardware difference between a jailbroken iPhone and a non (unless, of course, you are one of the few that jailbroke by resoldering the radio. If so, kudos to you, but you voided the warranty by opening it).
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There is a different in hardware between the G1 and the ADP1
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Not really, unless you consider a dark grey shell and a silkscreen design "different hardware".
Although id have to agree that the Asurion insurance is pointless if the OP expected an ADP1 back. Generally third party insurance policies will work with a repair depot and put the return hardware into a scrap pool to be refurbed and handed out to new insurance claims. The repair depot technician probably thought the ADP1 was just a G1 with a fancy custom shell (which aside from the unlocked SPL, is pretty much what it is).
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This post has nothing to do with an iPhone... he is simply stating that if you purchase an ADP1, use it on T-Mobile, get the insurance through T-Mobile, and ask for a replacement through T-Mobile... they give you a G1.
There is a different in hardware between the G1 and the ADP1. There is no hardware difference between a jailbroken iPhone and a non (unless, of course, you are one of the few that jailbroke by resoldering the radio. If so, kudos to you, but you voided the warranty by opening it).
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lol, you clearly did not understand his post at all
and care to explain what the difference in hardware is? apart from the battery cover, a developers G1 and a stock G1 are identical, hardware wise.
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Not really, unless you consider a dark grey shell and a silkscreen design "different hardware".
Although id have to agree that the Asurion insurance is pointless if the OP expected an ADP1 back. Generally third party insurance policies will work with a repair depot and put the return hardware into a scrap pool to be refurbed and handed out to new insurance claims. The repair depot technician probably thought the ADP1 was just a G1 with a fancy custom shell (which aside from the unlocked SPL, is pretty much what it is).
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Yes, but it is still a hardware difference . Or do you consider battery covers software now?
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lol, you clearly did not understand his post at all
and care to explain what the difference in hardware is? apart from the battery cover, a developers G1 and a stock G1 are identical, hardware wise.
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Uh, no. You are getting the exact same phone back from Apple in that instance, just different software. In this instance, you are getting a different model of the phone back.
I don't mean to argue, but there is no need to bash him. He was just trying to warn ADP1 users.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised that tmobile would even offer insurance on a device that they didn't sell... in the least, I wouldn't expect them to honor it. If it was a warranty issue, you should have sent it back to brightstar or directly to HTC, if it was something stupid like water damage, be happy that you got anything back AT ALL.
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Quite frankly, I'm surprised that tmobile would even offer insurance on a device that they didn't sell... in the least, I wouldn't expect them to honor it. If it was a warranty issue, you should have sent it back to brightstar or directly to HTC, if it was something stupid like water damage, be happy that you got anything back AT ALL.
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Seriously I agree.. I am surprised they warranty'd it at all, Although in the tmo system I bet everything just said it was a g1 ehh??
on top of that Asurian is the same warranty provider that at least Verizon & Sprint uses as well & Since nobody carry's a developer phone I am fairly sure they dont them to send.. In my opinion that would be common sense to assume you wouldn't be getting the same back unless they returned your original in nonworking condition..
Dev phone warranty claims need to be filed with brightstar.
email [email protected]
include your imei# and a description of the issue.
They will contact you with troubleshooting steps or RMA info.
Enjoy!
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Quite frankly, I'm surprised that tmobile would even offer insurance on a device that they didn't sell... in the least, I wouldn't expect them to honor it. If it was a warranty issue, you should have sent it back to brightstar or directly to HTC, if it was something stupid like water damage, be happy that you got anything back AT ALL.
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Yeah, I agree with this. But still, no need to flame him for trying to warn us.
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Dev phone warranty claims need to be filed with brightstar.
email [email protected]
include your imei# and a description of the issue.
They will contact you with troubleshooting steps or RMA info.
Enjoy!
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From what I have heard, their warranty is a LOT stricter. The only thing they'll replace is physical hardware problems. If the phone bricks, you're SOL.
warranty issues
auctually im on my 5th g1 now through warranty meathod.
i got my g1 for free. i am good friends with a "blackberry/pda specialist" at tmo. this is from her.
1. we dont handle warranty exchanges. htc does.
2. yes we send you the phone, but we ont recieve your old one.
3. software problems.. ok to exchange
4. hardware problems ... ok to exchange
5. cracked screen or water damage ... 100.00 fee to warranty exchange and problem must be before water damage happened.
6. when your old phone gets to htc we only verify it was sent and recieved by us, we just ship them to htc then.
7. it doesnt matter what phone you send us back as long as its tmo branded.
im not going to give anyinfo but idid this and have never paid for my g1.
well let me clarify...
i bout a full retail g1
ok so now i have a g1 listed on my account
returned and bout el chepo nokia but kept the 1 gb sd card
called customer svc.
said problem with my g1 (ie. stuck on g1 screen)
paid 10 bucks for shipping and was sent a refurb g1 replacement
called back with *battery issues* not charging
was sent a battery
called htc and was sent a battery door
ok so i bout a data cable 15.00 + 10.00 for battery cover + 10.00 shipping from tmo = 35.00 not bad for a g1
if you try this i am not responsible for any resulting action you face, as i have friends at tmo and know tmo's policys and scripting and troubleshooting practicies
sorry about my spelling.
Why so harsh? The OP was trying to be helpful. Your post only serves to discourage others from posting something helpful. I am confident the mods here are capable of moderating without your evaluation of whether a thread should be closed or not.
tubaking182 said:
wow really?!?!?! i thought that if i bought an iPhone and jailbroke it and then returned it to AT&T they would send me another jailbroken iPhone. or if i bought an asus computer and sent it to HP they would send me another new asus. this is really weird that t-mo would replace a phone that they don't carry with a phone that they do. if only some smart person had said on a developers forum:
"don't be an idiot like me and send you phone somewhere other than the place you got it for repair"
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Puore
i agree with digital_1 stop flamming people. and i agree with your pain. the adp1 is very hard to brick and even though the g1 can be jailbroken and modded its still not as easy to develop on a modded g1 as the adp1. sorry about your loss dude.
wlee1985 said:
i agree with digital_1 stop flamming people. and i agree with your pain. the adp1 is very hard to brick and even though the g1 can be jailbroken and modded its still not as easy to develop on a modded g1 as the adp1. sorry about your loss dude.
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The cool battery cover makes it easier?
mianosm said:
The cool battery cover makes it easier?
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lmfao....gnr.....smh
What does getting the 6 dollar insurance cover?
- Fly like a G2
Lost, stolen, broken, dropped, water damage... it covers everything. But to get a replace you will have to pay a deductable. I believe its 130??
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Yup, $130 incase the phone is stolen/lost. The warranty also extends to 2 years instead of 1. And they will service it free of charge if there is physical damage. I took it for the G2 due to the hinge, so over 2 years if the hinge gets REALLY bad I can get a replacement.
The warranty isn't for two years, its for as long as you have it out as long as they support it
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I love ins. When someone smarter then I figures out root and I brick my phone trying it will only cost me $130 to replace. At least I won't send it in and pretend like I didn't try to root it
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Just a thought but is it possible to pretend its lost/stolen and get that replacement phone? That way I can get another G2 for my girl can't afford for retail price since I used all my credit line..
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That's illegal and it's called Fraud. Pretty sure it's a hefty fine + jailtime if actually convicted.
But how do they know? You can say it got lost at a theme park right?
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Not the best idea
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Yea you could say some lie like that BUT remember that #1 insurance companies are giving you a 500 dollar phone for 130. So they make it their business to know what happend to your phone. I had to file a claim for a lost g1 and they made me get police reports and everything before they helped me out. #2 every phone has an IMEI number unique to itself and it is registered on the network when the phone is in use (I'm not 100% sure of how it works but they know if that phone is being used or not.) AND if the insurance company finds out that the phone YOU purchased (with its unique IMEI number) that is now claimed to be stolen is being used they might go and find out who is using it or who knows...
I wouldn't risk the fine or jail time or court just for a phone for your girlfriend if you want her to have one sooo bad then you can save up for it or at least tell her you'll give her half or some thing...
Besides I wouldn't see the g2 as the best upgrade option I'm bummed out that it was released with an 800mhz processor... WHY? All the new high end phones are using 1ghz... but w.e. everyone has theyr likes and dislikes... I'm personally waiting for something else...
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There's another warranty thats 1.99 a month and it covers all the same thing the 6 dollar rate does except for lost or stolen phones. Its only available up to 2 weeks after you purchased the phone. I think it's more likely to have a phone that has broken hinges and buttons instead of losing a phone.
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But how do they know? You can say it got lost at a theme park right?
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Hmm... Why don't you try it and find out? I mean what's the worst that can happen? It's easily worth losing a year of your life to jail to save $250!
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Hmm... Why don't you try it and find out? I mean what's the worst that can happen? It's easily worth losing a year of your life to jail to save $250!
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Actually, not even that with the $130 deductible, you would only save $120.
But sticking to the original question it covers a lot and its easily worth the $6 if anything happens to the phone physically (cracked damaged broken stolen ran over, abducted by aliens) the insurance company, asurion, will replace it for $130 deductable.
And if anything like software wise or memory card reader messes up or something inside that's NOT your "direct" fault tmobile will replace it for free. But it can't be physically damaged or cracked screen or anything it has to be something inside or even bricked, you can get away with some good excuses and making believe you don't know anything when they ask, did you try to root it? Uhhh... what's that? Lol
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The other great thing about a carrier having your IMEI# is that they can render it unusable on their or any other network within North America. I am about 98% certain that when you report a phone lost or stolen to Assurion, or Tmobile that their policy is to Blackllist the IMEI # of the phone.
As far as I can tell it only works on this continent, you could get a blacklisted phone to work in Europe.
It is similar to how a phone is added into a network, like say you flash a Verizon phone to Metro, they have to add the IMEI into their system so you can use it. In this case they just make it so you can't use it.
Also they do know if you have used a phone. I had a Nexus one and a Vibrant. I lost my Nexus while using my Vibrant. When I placed the claim with Assurion, they wanted me to call Tmobile and find out the last day my SIM card was used in my Nexus. Tmobile new exactly the last day my sim was in the Nexus.
So they know. And now, you know that they know.
OMF!!!! Come on guys..........how many times are your phones taken or lost and they find it???? They do not care that's why thousands of us pay 6 bucks a month and make them money. So all you wanna be naysayers trying to be xda police let them get one for their girl and be positive. Ill just say this, you lost your phone and give yours to your girl and bam!!!! You will get special attention the night you give it to her =)
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thats not true, they dont blacklist the devices. Only verizon and sprint do that.
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How about not stealing or commiting fraud because it is wrong? You want something; earn it.
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Tekk83 said:
There's another warranty thats 1.99 a month and it covers all the same thing the 6 dollar rate does except for lost or stolen phones. Its only available up to 2 weeks after you purchased the phone. I think it's more likely to have a phone that has broken hinges and buttons instead of losing a phone.
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http://support.t-mobile.com/doc/tm23694.xml;jsessionid=KjZenf0v916OVRAXNs#4
In the table, it says that the warranty (1.99) covers only malfunction. And "normal wear and tear" is grouped with malfunction in the description at the top of the page. So hinge falling apart is normal wear and tear I'm assuming? what about scratches? And then how is Damaged defined? Any one have any idea? I don't want to pay 6 bucks when I can pay 2...
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OMF!!!! Come on guys..........how many times are your phones taken or lost and they find it???? They do not care that's why thousands of us pay 6 bucks a month and make them money. So all you wanna be naysayers trying to be xda police let them get one for their girl and be positive. Ill just say this, you lost your phone and give yours to your girl and bam!!!! You will get special attention the night you give it to her =)
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Seriously that's why I had that idea of saying its lost and getting that replacement for her.. saves me and makes both of us happy
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@noodles2224
But how do they know? You can say it got lost at a theme park right?
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I had similar thoughts when I was younger and even talked to a T-Mo rep about it. I learned that if at any point you insert your own SIM card into the phone you claim was lost or stolen, you can expect a not-so friendly visit from the insurance company's lawyers or investigators.
Say you give your phone away to your girlfriend. The first thing they will do is check the SIM card and the account it is tied to. If you don't share the same address, or are linked in some way say through relatives or former addresses (anything a basic background check would show), then they will check the call history and see if you two know each other. It doesn't take a high school education to figure out if your phone was stolen or not. Claiming it was lost won't do much for you either.
I wouldn't be surprised if T-Mo can now remotely disable devices. If the phone is on and transmitting, it can be located pretty easily as well, whether that's for prosecution or recovering losses. I am pretty sure that if you make a claim with the phone in-hand and turn it on, you'll find yourself in trouble very quickly. If **** goes down, good luck convincing anyone, especially a lawyer or judge that your girlfriend stole it.
They don't take fraud lightly; I don't think you should as well.
I see a lot of misinformation being thrown around, so I'll just compile this little FAQ on how everything actually works. Feel free to point out anything I've left or any mistakes you think I may have made.
Q: What exactly is "Sprint insurance"?
A: Sprint TEP insurance is a combination of two things, ESRP and ERP. ESRP stands for Equipment Service and Repair Plan. ERP stands for Equipment Replacement Plan.
Q: So what's the difference?
A: ESRP is anything in a Sprint repair location. Including but not limited to part replacement, software updates, and advanced exchanges. Anything software related (such as updates, resets, etc) are always free. If you do not have ESRP or the full TEP, you may be charged $35 to replace a part or exchange the device.
ERP is everything else outside of that, which is handled by Asurion. This includes lost/stolen, liquid damaged, and physically damaged beyond repair. Depending on the type of device, there would be a $50 or $100 deductible to replace it. Usually, the replacement device is overnighted to you.
Q: So about the Evo and it's charging port, what is that covered under?
A: It depends. The technician would have to take it apart and look at it. If the charge port is broken cleanly free from the board, it's a known issue and can be replaced free of charge, even without TEP/ESRP. If the solder joints appear damaged and circuit board is peeled, it is not covered in-store and you would be referred to Asurion for ERP.
Q: Cracked screen?
A: No longer covered under ESRP, as per policy. Referred to Asurion. Sometimes a one-time courtesy screen replacement can be done, but the ESRP/TEP rules also apply in terms of a $35 charge.
Q: But what about warranty?
A: Warranty only applies to one thing in terms of Sprint: Batteries. 1 year after the initial activation of the device, a defective battery may be exchanged. After that one year, the system will not populate a replacement battery. As far as anything else with the actual device, the manufacturer warranty is not honored. If you think your problem would be covered under the warranty, you would have to contact the manufacturer, not Sprint.
Q: I'm paying $7 (soon $8) a month for insurance, why should I have to pay a deductible to get a replacement?
A: It works the same way as car insurance. If you damage your car, they don't just fix it or total it without a deductible. You're getting a "like new" device, for at least half (in terms of the Evo) of the original price. It doesn't matter what price you initially paid for it, you're not paying for a new one. Some times new ones do come, consider yourself lucky if so.
Q: Why does one store tell you one thing, then another store tell you another?
A: Every store is different. Each is bound by policy, called Methods & Procedues. However, there is some flexibility underneath that. Depending on the situation, it also may depend on who exactly you speak to in the store. From my experience, it happens most often with customer care/tech support and corporate retail locations. 3rd party dealers (preferred/co-branded/etc) have a lot stricter guidelines and therefore cannot operate with as much flexibility.
The one thing customers hate the most is the "run around" feeling. I cannot count the numerous times that a customer has called into Care to be told one thing, only to be told no in my store because we simply cannot do that. One good example is "Sure, just go into that store and they'll give you a brand new Evo out of the box". 1. Our store simply cannot do that, at all, period. 2. Care cannot see that the phone is clearly wet, but the expectation has been set that the customer is getting a brand new phone, so we get a bad score.
Again, this is just a FAQ to clear up any misconceptions. This is not pointed at anyone in general, I just hate when people spout off about things they don't understand.
Thanks for the info. This answered a few questions I had been wondering about.
totally, thank you very much
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A: It works the same way as car insurance. If you damage your car, they don't just fix it or total it without a deductible. You're getting a "like new" device, for at least half (in terms of the Evo) of the original price. It doesn't matter what price you initially paid for it, you're not paying for a new one. Some times new ones do come, consider yourself lucky if so.
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I have personally only received a new device from Asurion.
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I have personally only received a new device from Asurion.
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You are very lucky then as me and almost everybody I know or have read about got refurbs. Some appeared to have been taken in and then reissued without any repairs having been made. Let's hope your luck holds out.
I hope they ship an unopened, in box, hardware 004 model to me. I cracked the screen 10 ways to Sunday the day before yesterday, and I filed an Asurion claim. Funny thing is, I called and my early upgrade was successful, but after paying $100, I am asking myself, do I really want the EVO 3D? Maybe if I get $150 from the buyback program.......neh......who knows.
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Thanks for the info... Makes me really wonder if it is worth it as you can get a used phone for $200 or so. So if on average you dont use this every year, just better to save the 7-8 a month and the 100 deductible and get a used one as seems you can just get a referb anyway.
ALWAYS treated good with the stores..
faithful customer for 13 years..
wi11ie
My Sprint store opened my phone and the charging port was clearly off the board. They told me I'd have to go through Asurion for a replacement.
Had to pay for screen repair 4 months in (sunspots) $35
My 3G borked 3 weeks ago and ordered a replacement $35.
The replacement came in (refurb) with the same sunspot in the same place (appx). Ordered another replacement, checked two days later, no order made....tech in store made another order, came in two days later with the same defect. Rep gave me a NIB 004 on the spot.
After paying $70 for repairs, I ended up ahead by $14 and a brand new phone for the trouble. Now if I had done something out of the normal 'repair' options, a different story all together on cost.
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My Sprint store opened my phone and the charging port was clearly off the board. They told me I'd have to go through Asurion for a replacement.
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Cleanly off or were the solder joints broken and circuit board peeled like I mentioned?
Received my replacement from Asurion today. It is brand new, in the box, with all the accessories. And it still has 2.2 Froyo!!
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Cleanly off or were the solder joints broken and circuit board peeled like I mentioned?
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Not sure. The guy opened the phone and the port fell out. He didn't examine it, he just put the phone back together and said I'd have to go through my insurance. The guy didn't seem very helpful and was borderline rude, not the usual friendly sprint rep/tech. He didn't even look up my account info or anything. he just assumed I had insurance (which I do)
That was back in Alabama. I'm in Iowa now...do you think I should try the store here?
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Not sure. The guy opened the phone and the port fell out. He didn't examine it, he just put the phone back together and said I'd have to go through my insurance. The guy didn't seem very helpful and was borderline rude, not the usual friendly sprint rep/tech. He didn't even look up my account info or anything. he just assumed I had insurance (which I do)
That was back in Alabama. I'm in Iowa now...do you think I should try the store here?
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Yeah I would definitely try. Worst case scenario, you have to do what's already been said. No harm in trying again.
You are mistaken. When under warranty they will replace it. If they don't it will be 1 phone call away to corporate!
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You are mistaken. When under warranty they will replace it. If they don't it will be 1 phone call away to corporate!
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When under warranty what?
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When under warranty what?
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If no actual cosmetic damages then it will be covered and sprint will exchange the phone.
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If no actual cosmetic damages then it will be covered and sprint will exchange the phone.
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Like I said, warranty has nothing to do with it. Sure, Sprint will exchange the phone, but the $35 applies if you don't have insurance. Lost/stolen, liquid and physical damage aside.
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Like I said, warranty has nothing to do with it. Sure, Sprint will exchange the phone, but the $35 applies if you don't have insurance. Lost/stolen, liquid and physical damage aside.
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Oh yeah.... so why was I not charged?
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Oh yeah.... so why was I not charged?
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Depends on the issue, as stated in the bit about the charging port.
Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Hi guys. I have posted before about my faulty Galaxy Note in a few threads, but today i was in a shock when the employee of the eshop i bought my Note from informed me that my Note not only has bad hardware but that Samsung refuses to replace faulty devices and only offers to repair them.
The employee told me that the technician diagnosed a motherboard problem(i don't know how else to translate it) and it won't even recharge.
It stands to reason that repairs should cost more than a new note.
Do you think that Samsung will replace my phone?
Also do you find this policy of Samsung wrong or what?
I believe it's appalling, and i am not going to buy another Samsung phone or other product from such an irresponsible company ever again.
Anyway, has anyone have experience with this sort of thing? If yes can you recommend how i should play my cards? Thanks in advance
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Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
joshua said:
Well its quite a common thing in service center... the so called "engineers" will not make a replacement for ur faulty phone when they see deem fit that its repairable...
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Are you suggesting that there can be gained some kind of profit from me(other that transporting expenses to the couriers)? No that's not the case if that is what you are implying; my guarantee makes all repair costs free.
So how would they gain from me?
I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
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I find it quite normal that they only replace what needs to be...
When your car has a faulty wheel, do you ask the whole car to be replaced?
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Its a motherboard replacement, so no it does not cost more than the entire phone. It seems like you "want" a new phone due to the problem more than actually getting the problem resolved. I doubt samsung would utilize an effort in repair that would be more costly to them than replacing the phone itself. I personally don't think their methods are wrong and I love my Samsung products, I do however understand they are assembly line products and some will have defects, we get them fixed and move on.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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probably yes, if its bought for less than a week.
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You wont get one though..You'll get a new wheel
It doesn't even make sense to me that someone would expect a new car if the wheel failed..Even if it was a mile from the lot you bought it from.
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I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone.
From what i've been told on this site it is supposed to be a very stable phone. I have been excited and then frustrated a lot with that phone and it has affected my mood on numerous occasions.
I think i am entitled to some anger against the company for not doing their job right.
I can understand assembly line defects but i don't understand indifference.
It seems like the whole business operates on an automatic assembly line and that frustrates me when i can't have a responsible company representative to solve my problem easily, quickly and effectively.
The only representatives i could reach on the phone were samsung calling center employees and they were vague as vague can be. They of course delegated the problem as much as they could.
I tell you friend, that's no way a responsible company acts. I will not be providing income to them anymore as a consequence of this behavior.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
I feel for you dude.... You buy a brand new device expecting it to work, not having to send it back and forth to fix a problem on a brand new product.
But things happen and personally I don't mind getting it fixed if it's guaranteed. At least it's still the one you bought and not a refurbished unit from someone else.
Of course you have the right to be angry. Anyone would after all that you've described.
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Who is fixing it Samsung or some shop that fixes them for warranty? Sounds like whoever is fixing your phone is dropping the ball and doesnt know what they are doing.
I'm not sure what other manufacturor will do things different? They are all basically the same or worse.
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I sent it to Samsung. Samsung has a company here in Greece that fixes them. They send it there for repairs. Now they saw the condition my phone was in, and they made a poor diagnosis(In my view it was a hasty/irresponsible diagnosis in order to get rid of me) that it was a faulty battery. They didn't even bother to check my phone if it was ok after they "fixed" it as it turns out.
Now with Samsung that's the problem, they delegate and compartmentalize their company as much as it is required to shift responsibility and make you feel lost and frustrated.
I hate that kind of shadowy situation they have built around themselves so they won't have to admit "yes we don't give a **** about the consumer, we just want to sell", and that's why i decided to not take from them anymore.
+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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"I sent the phone twice to them and they returned it to me still malfunctioning. No i don't want a new phone more than mine fixed, i have just lost faith that my phone can ever be fixed, and that's why i want a new phone."
That line, which was not included in your original post, changed everything. If you have been following their "policy" and have given them multiple attempts to repair your device and now its costing YOU time and effort, that's unacceptable. I assumed you brought it in with an issue, and that was their resolution, seemed fitting. This no longer seems the case, and yes I would demand a replacement phone. Not only will your problem most likely never get fixed but opening the device up and moving internal parts around over and over is not a good thing for the longevity of the phone. So as they say in the courts, I retract my previous statement, tell em to replace the damn thing!
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The employee of the eshop called them today and was firm on replacing the device, the problem is that they were firm themselves about NOT replacing it.
What can i do against a big company like them?
If they decide i don't get another phone what the hell can i do?
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+1 on what MrDSL said. Have you bought your device from an official dealer? In Bulgaria we have many small electronic stores where they get devices from eBay or God knows from where, the sell these devices 50-100 bucks cheaper and their warranty is linked to some crappy repair services and not to the official one (or authorized one). Some years ago I got my first smartphone Orange branded from such a shop. I would never do that mistake again.
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I bought it from a small electronics online shop here in Greece. They buy the phones from Germany and the guarantee is linked to the German Market. If all else fails i have to take my case there.
But they employee tells me that it's the company's policy(as well as many others besides Apple) that they don't replace devices, end of story.
So again, even though my guarantee is solid, the COMPANY is NOT.
So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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So they will charge you for replacing the mainboard? If samsung has representative office in your country, go there and directly talk with them about your problem. If not i think you're out of luck.
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Nobody has made any talk about extra charges, that is covered by the guarantee.
If that was the case i might be convinced to move legally against them.
Its simple, cost of part and installing cheaper then replacement of whole phone then replace part. Logic no?
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This is not a Samsung specific issue all phone manufactures work like this. Next replacing the motherboard is more or less getting a new phone as the phone is roughly motherboard + screen and very little else.
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It might be different in other countries but i work for Ford in the uk and know alittle about the way guarantees and warranty work my note is on contract with 02 and to date i have had 3 new notes from 02 two because i scratched them and just said there was problems with the software on them. Also you have a 28 day no quibble returns policy in the u.k with electronic things. Also if ya good at blagging you can get anything of big companys i upgraded to a nexus in january and the software went into bootloop before i even had time to root it so i kicked off and this happened twice so ended up kicking off and telling them i wanted a note otherwise i was going to trading standards cos they werent fit for purpose and guess what i got a brand new note 3 months after an upgrade. I was always told shy kids get no sweets so try ya luck
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Interesting this .I myself have just taken in my note 3 ( I brought direct from Samsung) which is completely dead into a Samsung approved repair centre. They told me the phone needs to be sent away for a motherboard replacement which will take between 7-10 days. I am a little putout as to the time without my Note but I suppose at least I'll get it back fully functional.
Now last year I took my wife's Iphone into one of there Genius centres with a problem (dead phone again) and guess what we were given a nice new shiny replacement there and then.
They do say you only know how good a manufacture is when you need them most !
Think Samsung may need to up there game.
You pay top dollar or a phone it should come with top dollar service
I bought an AT&T S4 32gb from ebay brand new a week ago. It was working well & it was never rooted or custom rom installed.
I slept & woke up & this phone wasnt responding to anything i do. No boot or power at all, checked battery it looks fine & voltage output is 4.21.
I didnt open the phone, though it never got water/liquid damage. Another thing strange is its not even heating up from any side.
Wrote this thread in hope, if anyone has had in this situation & made it work again.
Im truthful to every line i wrote. Need solutions.
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I bought an AT&T S4 32gb from ebay brand new a week ago. It was working well & it was never rooted or custom rom installed.
I slept & woke up & this phone wasnt responding to anything i do. No boot or power at all, checked battery it looks fine & voltage output is 4.21.
I didnt open the phone, though it never got water/liquid damage. Another thing strange is its not even heating up from any side.
Wrote this thread in hope, if anyone has had in this situation & made it work again.
Im truthful to every line i wrote. Need solutions.
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Warranty perhaps
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Warranty perhaps
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I stay in INDIA & want this model cuz its battery life is much better than International S4.
So i cant claim warranty, that was once working fine.
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I stay in INDIA & want this model cuz its battery life is much better than International S4.
So i cant claim warranty, that was once working fine.
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I dint get it...why cant you claim warranty? Warranty is for devices that were once working fine but no longer are. Warranty is through samsung themself not your carrier...so it shouldnt matter how you got it you should still have up to a year to file warranty
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I dint get it...why cant you claim warranty? Warranty is for devices that were once working fine but no longer are. Warranty is through samsung themself not your carrier...so it shouldnt matter how you got it you should still have up to a year to file warranty
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As I said, i bought from "ebay.com" seller, that isnt helping as the seller states, it was working when he sold to me & he doesnt wanna help. Yes you are right but i can only claim warranty if i stay in USA & if i have the receipt, which i dont have. I cant claim warranty locally as its an AT&T phone which is only sold in US.
The way around is to make it work.
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As I said, i bought from "ebay.com" seller, that isnt helping as the seller states, it was working when he sold to me & he doesnt wanna help. Yes you are right but i can only claim warranty if i stay in USA & if i have the receipt, which i dont have. I cant claim warranty locally as its an AT&T phone which is only sold in US.
The way around is to make it work.
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Dont claim it through att, claim it through SAMSUNG.
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As I said, i bought from "ebay.com" seller, that isnt helping as the seller states, it was working when he sold to me & he doesnt wanna help. Yes you are right but i can only claim warranty if i stay in USA & if i have the receipt, which i dont have. I cant claim warranty locally as its an AT&T phone which is only sold in US.
The way around is to make it work.
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Just to make sure you covered all your bases call Samsung tech support. See if they have any ideas
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Can i really??
I have to call Samsung USA tech support i guess ?? But will they help i will be calling from INDIA.
Samsung doesnt want to help if he is outside the usa because it is the usa based device so they will only service it within the usa I believe via UPS mailing since they ship back only to a usa address.
Why don't you open a ebay/paypal claim to get your money back?
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Samsung doesnt want to help if he is outside the usa because it is the usa based device so they will only service it within the usa I believe via UPS mailing since they ship back only to a usa address.
Why don't you open a ebay/paypal claim to get your money back?
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That is wat i was thinkng, samsung will not believe me.
Making a claim will be unfair i think, cuz it worked well for the past week.
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That is wat i was thinkng, samsung will not believe me.
Making a claim will be unfair i think, cuz it worked well for the past week.
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I don't think it is unfair. You paid for a product that obviously was defective as it died randomly. If I buy a item from a store I expect to work, not die randomly to suck it up. Even though its a used item, you shouldn't deal with issues that perhaps the previous owner did not tell you.
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It should still be covered and you can print your Paypal receipt as proof that it was brand new if the title of the auction says brand new. I think it should be covered. You will need to register it with Samsung for warranty service. Toucan do that on their website. You probably won't even have to mention where you bought it.
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It should still be covered and you can print your Paypal receipt as proof that it was brand new if the title of the auction says brand new. I think it should be covered. You will need to register it with Samsung for warranty service. Toucan do that on their website. You probably won't even have to mention where you bought it.
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He is India and bought a device only covered for warranty within U.S.A terrority by law. They wouldn't be forced to service an out of country warranty. Same deal happened to my friend in europe with a U.S.A tmobile s4. He ended up shipping it to me so I could ship to them.
Then again its soley by Samsungs choice. He could try contacting their international department to see if they'll honor it for him.
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Febby said:
He is India and bought a device only covered for warranty within U.S.A terrority by law. They wouldn't be forced to service an out of country warranty. Same deal happened to my friend in europe with a U.S.A tmobile s4. He ended up shipping it to me so I could ship to them.
Then again its soley by Samsungs choice. He could try contacting their international department to see if they'll honor it for him.
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They may service it for him. I'd play with it more. Its unusual for a phone to just die like that but something could have shorted out in it. I don't know how good the electricity in India is.
I say give it a try. Call sammy and also file a claim with PayPal. He should stand by his product.
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Im really disappointed at your suggestions, making a paypal claim is my last resort.
As previously, i bought a captivate which died the same way after a month, of i did claim thru paypal i ended up losing both phone & money.
Yes Samsung may help, international samy will not bother to help & if its USA samy i must have to call from a valid US no. right?
Hello Febby, u gave me a good suggestion, ur frnd sent it to u, but can i as im limited by the person i know in USA.
Frankly, i just wanna try something myself, to make it work & btw electricity is good, but its a little costly where i stay & power cuts are limited.
My S4 screen cracked, they never asked for a proof of purchase (but then again, they took my $200 to fix it). Maybe look into something like VIAddress, they provide a US address for you to tell companies to ship to and they'll forward it to a big number of countries for some fee.
pejhod said:
My S4 screen cracked, they never asked for a proof of purchase (but then again, they took my $200 to fix it). Maybe look into something like VIAddress, they provide a US address for you to tell companies to ship to and they'll forward it to a big number of countries for some fee.
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OK viaddress are they reliable, how much time do they take. They didnt ask cuz u paid for it, mine is diff then urs, as its totally dead... no response at all. They might ask
I've never used VIAddress, but I've sold several thing on eBay to people who used almost identical addresses that went to this freight complex in an pharma/industrial part of our country, New Jersey. One person was Chinese and the other Russian. So I'm guessing they used this or another forwarding service... it must be good if they used it.
True, Samsung might ask you, but I think the warranty will stand by serial number and not owner. I've sold a Galaxy S3 to someone and AT&T at least, assured us that there would be no problems with the other guy making a claim.
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