I have Galaxy S4 tri-band SPH-L720T with L720TVPUBNC6 kitkat 4.4.2. I understand that rooting this phone will set Knox to 0x1. But i need Knox to use phone at work, unless someone knows of an alternative to it? I'm thinking an already rooted NC6 tar flashed via Odin will not trip knox, is that right? I've seen rooted stock roms before, but i could not find rooted NC6. Is there a way i could mod/root the original tar.md5 file and then flash it? Some help would be great.
Thanks a lot
No way to root without tripping Knox as of now.
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What are the odds of someone finding a way to root Kitkat without affecting Knox? If Knox 0x1 only voided the warranty and did not disable it then i would not care about it. I've found alternatives to Knox, that may have to be enough for now.
seskanda said:
What are the odds of someone finding a way to root Kitkat without affecting Knox? If Knox 0x1 only voided the warranty and did not disable it then i would not care about it. I've found alternatives to Knox, that may have to be enough for now.
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Any methods that you will find that accomplish this have been guaranteed by Samsung to be quickly put to bed.
They're all for being able to root but they have to assure Enterprise MDM users of data security.
It's why I use the G2 for Airwatch and leave the S4/S5 for dev or home use.
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Any methods that you will find that accomplish this have been guaranteed by Samsung to be quickly put to bed.
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What about this method below i found on xda after a lot of searching?:
Keep Knox 0x0 root- Kitkat upgrade
They're all for being able to root but they have to assure Enterprise MDM users of data security.
It's why I use the G2 for Airwatch and leave the S4/S5 for dev or home use.
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If by G2, you mean LG G2, then yes it's all LG or HTC for me now. And Airwatch is on the top of my list of Enterprise MDM, This begs the question, if knox is tripped will Airwatch or another MDM still work? Or, since Knox is in the bootloader, can Samsung lock the phone to only use Knox?
As per the title, how would I root my Exynos SM-G900H without tripping the Knox counter?
Also, I'm in Europe, would I run into trouble if I *did* trip the counter? I've heard mixed answers.
PNGC said:
As per the title, how would I root my Exynos SM-G900H without tripping the Knox counter?
Also, I'm in Europe, would I run into trouble if I *did* trip the counter? I've heard mixed answers.
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Don`t think Towelroot will work with the G900H, you`ll have to use CF Auto Root which will trip the KNOX flag. Warranty is based on the country`s laws and conditions where the phone originated from, EU consumers protection laws don`t apply to you as the phone isn`t beeing sold officialy by Samsung in the EU.
PNGC said:
As per the title, how would I root my Exynos SM-G900H without tripping the Knox counter?
Also, I'm in Europe, would I run into trouble if I *did* trip the counter? I've heard mixed answers.
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Yep,
It's here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2696537 but you'll lose knox.
Be happy, I would like on my G901F even with losing knox, but not available yet!
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Franky
Hey,
I've heard that tripping knox might disable the ability to use Samsung Pay in the future.
Do you know any other consequences of tripping knox - like being unable to use the fingerprint scanner or updating OTA on stock rom?
Yes.....OTA will more than likely be broken.
If your employer asks you to bring your device to work, you won't be able to connect to their secure server network.
Samsung *are* using tripped knox to deny warranty repairs....even if the fault is hardware based and couldn't possibly have been caused by modified software. (Some users will say that they have had a repair with tripped knox, but that's down to nothing more than pure luck.....Samsung's official line is that tripping knox WILL void warranty)
There may be other effects from tripping knox that I don't know about....best to see if anybody else answers.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
The S5 won't have Samsung Pay. Not the way the S6 does it. It's missing the MST chip.
Might as well root.
OTA still works after tripping KNOX (Stops working once you root or flash anything custom but starts working again once you're back on stock), I haven't found anything that doesn't work, fingerprint and private mode etc all still work
Haven't used Samsung Pay, possible things like that might stop working, but I have my doubts it breaks anything other than warranty
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Yes.....OTA will more than likely be broken.
If your employer asks you to bring your device to work, you won't be able to connect to their secure server network.
Samsung *are* using tripped knox to deny warranty repairs....even if the fault is hardware based and couldn't possibly have been caused by modified software. (Some users will say that they have had a repair with tripped knox, but that's down to nothing more than pure luck.....Samsung's official line is that tripping knox WILL void warranty)
There may be other effects from tripping knox that I don't know about....best to see if anybody else answers.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
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What do you mean about not being able connecting to a secure server network? I've never heard about that before :/
s3nr1 said:
The S5 won't have Samsung Pay. Not the way the S6 does it. It's missing the MST chip.
Might as well root.
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Yeah, considering the age of the phone, I'm also thinking about doing it without worrying about those thing - not sure yet though.
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OTA still works after tripping KNOX (Stops working once you root or flash anything custom but starts working again once you're back on stock), I haven't found anything that doesn't work, fingerprint and private mode etc all still work
Haven't used Samsung Pay, possible things like that might stop working, but I have my doubts it breaks anything other than warranty
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And you're positve that OTA and all the other stuff still works like if it was 0x0?
Thanks for the answers
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And you're positve that OTA and all the other stuff still works like if it was 0x0?
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Of course, that's how I update, I just flash back to stock, and OTA update, then root again
OTA only stops working if it sees you have modified the OS, such as root or adblocking etc, that's why I flash back to stock for the OTA
If you've never heard of a secure server network (also called a 'business enterprise' network) and your employer has never asked you to/will never ask you to bring your device to work, tripping knox is not an issue.....The main thing you have to consider is what if you need a warranty repair?.......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
I will attest to the fact that it does. However if you reflash the factory image no Knox
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p0krf2ce said:
I will attest to the fact that it does. However if you reflash the factory image no Knox
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Do you even understand what KNOX is?
Attest to the fact that it does what?
Flashing stock does NOT reset KNOX
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Do you even understand what KNOX is?
Attest to the fact that it does what?
Flashing stock does NOT reset KNOX
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Totally agreed.......
One of the most experienced, highly respected developers on XDA (Chainfire) is of the informed opinion that knox is an eFuse.
As such it CANNOT be reset, and that once tripped, it REMAINS tripped........forever......
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
I have tripped KNOX and the finger scanner does not work. Samsung Pay does not work (B.A. at least).
When I fash back to stock counter reads 0x0. Forgive my ignorance of the efuse.
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Do you even understand what KNOX is?
Attest to the fact that it does what?
Flashing stock does NOT reset KNOX
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p0krf2ce said:
I have tripped KNOX and the finger scanner does not work. Samsung Pay does not work (B.A. at least).
When I fash back to stock counter reads 0x0. Forgive my ignorance of the efuse.
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If it says 0x0, then you never tripped KNOX in the first place
And the fingerprint scanner works fine with tripped KNOX, something else is wrong
Or you don't have an S5
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If it says 0x0, then you never tripped KNOX in the first place
And the fingerprint scanner works fine with tripped KNOX, something else is wrong
Or you don't have an S5
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I am using the S6 but have had the S 5 and S 4. I have tripped KNOX using TWRP method purposely. Flashed stock and I read 0x0. Ping-pong works fine. I have soft bricked, bootlooped, ended up with just battery symbol. And stock has always brought me back to life. I am not arguing but as far as the software is concerned it looks like I haven't tripped KNOX. So I must not understand somethong else. I thought the efuse was hardware?
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p0krf2ce said:
I am using the S6 but have had the S 5 and S 4. I have tripped KNOX using TWRP method purposely. Flashed stock and I read 0x0. Ping-pong works fine. I have soft bricked, bootlooped, ended up with just battery symbol. And stock has always brought me back to life. I am not arguing but as far as the software is concerned it looks like I haven't tripped KNOX. So I must not understand somethong else. I thought the efuse was hardware?
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To put it very simply, if you had EVER tripped KNOX on the S5 (Can't speak for other devices) then 1000% you have never ever reset it from 0x1 back to 0x0, guaranteed
KNOX is a hardware eFuse yes, once it burns out, that's it, gone, forever on 0x1
Flashing stock does absolutely nothing to repair KNOX 0x1, nothing, so get that out of your head
Bricking your phone, and recovering it by flashing stock again, has no connection to KNOX 0x1 > 0x0
It's easy as pie to unbrick an S5, it's impossible to reset KNOX 0x1
In fact, last I heard, there was a substantial reward for anyone who managed to reset KNOX back to 0x0
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To put it very simply, if you had EVER tripped KNOX on the S5 (Can't speak for other devices) then 1000% you have never ever reset it from 0x1 back to 0x0, guaranteed
KNOX is a hardware eFuse yes, once it burns out, that's it, gone, forever on 0x1
Flashing stock does absolutely nothing to repair KNOX 0x1, nothing, so get that out of your head
Bricking your phone, and recovering it by flashing stock again, has no connection to KNOX 0x1 > 0x0
It's easy as pie to unbrick an S5, it's impossible to reset KNOX 0x1
In fact, last I heard, there was a substantial reward for anyone who managed to reset KNOX back to 0x0
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I have tripped on the s4 variant repeatedly and reset the counter. And if there is a reward I deserve it. Because i have tripped the KNOX counter and reset as many other developers have. Here's a link to a great discussion on XDA about Locke and how to reset the counter if you're worried about your warranty. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738175
I am not arguing the validity of some efuse but I can make the software say 0x0 after 0x1.
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No you can't, not on the S5, which is the forum you are in right now, while talking about S6 and S4s....
If you do not own the S5, leave
You deserve nothing other than being put on iggy tbh
Read the thread you just linked to, all of it, show me the part that has the tutorial on resetting the S5 KNOX eFuse...
Go away troll
In fact, make an uncut video, showing the S5 with 0x1, and show how you reset it back to 0x0 - go ahead
Here's Chainfire's Google+ blog for additional info.......
https://plus.google.com/+Chainfire/posts/LCfF5A9fsTG
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
Wow, people nowadays, somehow lollipop managed to bring on such ignorance, he just doesn't understand.
Frost009 said:
Wow, people nowadays, somehow lollipop managed to bring on such ignorance, he just doesn't understand.
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Um excuse me? Who EXACTLY are you calling ignorant? Chainfire by any chance?
If it is.....YOU stand to be corrected, as he KNOWS and UNDERSTANDS a damn sight more about android than 95% of members on here EVER WILL......including you or me.
http://i.imgur.com/rVnFwJM.jpg
I read it as him talking about "p0krf2ce" - at least I hope he was
EDIT -After reading some other of his posts, I'm beginning to wonder...
Hey all, it's been a while since my rooting days but I wanted to check in and ask this: Is there a simple way that the manufacturer can tell if you have rooted the phone? I ask because I'm a verizon employee now and they're more strict than my previous employer was, At&t. I know samsung used to have a counter on some of their devices but wanted to check in with today's current root methods. And if there is a way they can tell, can you reset it to zero after flashing through odin or another method?
TIA!
There is Knox warranty void which is tripped when root and when tripped it's permanent. There is no way to undo it other than changing mainboard.
Knox is an efuse, hardware based thing.
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But what about the exynos version. is the knox flag still there if you go back to stock?
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But what about the exynos version. is the knox flag still there if you go back to stock?
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It is. But it does not have an efuse so could potentially be reversed. However nobody has found a way to do it as of yet.
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everytime you'll flash something, the knox counter will be from 0x0 to 0x1, which means your warranty is void.
Up to now there is no known way to turn it back to 0x0
Hello all
There is a lot of old threads about disabling KNOX on S5 but none disabling app dont work, I've tested a lot of them . Do we have hope for reset KNOX to 0x0? Are there any news about it? My phone is SM-G900F
You can't reset KNOX 0x1 to 0x0
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I think it's possible because lots of people were replying for disabling apps made by xda devs, it was working but usually for galaxy note users.
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I think it's possible because lots of people were replying for disabling apps made by xda devs, it was working but usually for galaxy note users.
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It's not
Sorry no I haven't heard of a way either
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as far as i know... you can't reset knox... but i think you can root g900F and still 0x0...
No, there's no way to reset the Knox Warranty Bit counter back to 0x0. The reason is that Samsung uses an eFuse that burns itself permanently when it detects that a unsigned kernel/bootloader/recovery is installed on the device. As a security measure, Knox is disabled forever on said device (and any data encrypted by it will not be any longer retrievable). That is to keep data secured from exploits and root.
Hope that explains everything!
Source: https://www2.samsungknox.com/en/faq/what-knox-warranty-bit-and-how-it-triggered
Actually it is still an ongoing debate whether it is software or an efuse just my 2 cents
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How to reset knox 0x1 to 0x0 my phone model s5 sm g900f
Haslie said:
How to reset knox 0x1 to 0x0 my phone model s5 sm g900f
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Did you read any of this thread at all before posting?
0x1 is PERMANENT