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Hey everyone, I just recieved my TF today. As a die hard fan of android I've rooted every single device I have owned. However, after reading through many threads I noted that the only way to root to 3.1 is to root while still on 3.01 then flash a rom thats 3.1, one big reason I like to root is custom roms and custom kernals. seeing that there is no custom kernals out for 3.1 and very limited 3.1 roms I wonder if there really is any advantage to rooting and then flashing to 3.1? I'm still on stock and the only thing that's stopping me from updating OTA is the fact that it seems that a lot of others is having problems downgrading to 3.01 in order to root. So my question is should I root or just update to 3.1?
I kinda feel the same. I'll root the **** out of any phone but I don't know about a tablet.
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to be able to use adb over wifi is reason enough for me to root
I rooted my Dinc to:
Remove crapware
Use custom ROMs that provided great features not available stock
Access wifi tethering
Disable those damn LEDs when I'm reading at night
The only thing that looks comparable to the Xfrmr would be crapware, but I'd only remove an app or two. Not much.
Consequently, I've not found a compelling reason to root yet either. Now if Cyanogen was to develop a Honeycomb ROM I'd have to reconsider.
I would have to agree with you guys. I have yet to root my tablet because I don't think I would gain much. Sure, I could remove a few apps I don't use, but really, they aren't causing me any issues yet.
I am happy remaining stock unless something comes along that gives me reason. I root my phones for custom roms and tethering, but that's it.
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I would have to agree with you guys. I have yet to root my tablet because I don't think I would gain much. Sure, I could remove a few apps I don't use, but really, they aren't causing me any issues yet.
I am happy remaining stock unless something comes along that gives me reason. I root my phones for custom roms and tethering, but that's it.
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those are the same reasons i root too, so did you guys update to 3.1 OTA or are you still on 3.01?
I'm on 3.1 and rooted, didn't even consider not doing I'd feel crippled without:
Native samba server,
Wireless ADB,
Removing the ASUS junk apps
Busybox
Ability to install Android Movie studio
Titanium backup
And the second Kernel source comes out
cifs mount in kernel
Hi everyone! I just upgraded to the AT&T version of the Samsung Galaxy S4. Before I had the original Galaxy Note. I've rooted and loaded custom ROM's on all my previous Android devices (Captivate, Inspire 4G, Galaxy S II, and Galaxy Note), but I'm debating on rooting this device. It's running great on the stock ROM.
Has anyone else debated this? If so, did you go ahead and root and loaded a ROM then regret it or were you glad you did it?
You can run it absolutely stock and still be rooted. Rooting gives you the advantage of certain apps that require it, as I'm sure you know, such as Titanium Backup, Root explorer and others. Plus ability to get rid of AT&T apps you never do or never will use. fwiw
Root it! You want regret it. The possibilities are endless. And if you do prefer a stock like rom, well believe me there are GREAT custom stock like roms that these great devs have put together that run flawlessly with added benefits. Hope this helps. Happy Rooting
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even if you plan to keep the stock ROM, its worth it to root so you can uninstall the AT&T bloatware and remove the AT&T splash screen on start-up.
lazard said:
even if you plan to keep the stock ROM, its worth it to root so you can uninstall the AT&T bloatware and remove the AT&T splash screen on start-up.
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I am on stock with root. I rooted it using Adam's casual only to have TiBu work. I froze all ATT bloats and some google and samsung apps. The stock is very fine for me.
Now I am debating to flash Paranoid rom to try their multiwindow and halo features...
Thanks for all the input everyone, I appreciate it. Knowing me I'll end up rooting it and loading a ROM since I can't leave stuff alone. HA!
Does anyone know if there's a ROM out there that someone has gotten Bluetooth Tethering to work? That's one thing I miss from ICS on my Galaxy Note.
Hey gk
In same boat, been flashing roms hundreds of times for over 3 years from early Nexus One days. Most of the reasons were to get newer OS's without waiting. However, one of the reasons I got the S4 was it already has the latest as in 4.2.2.
One thing I have learned as most of us have is there always seems to be something not 100% on each rom for some folks. Goes with the territory as we know. Although, I have been lucky in that area. Maybe due to lots of reading and proper pre-install wipes. Hats off to all the devs though for their long and tiresome hours giving us these great roms.
My concern, since this is early on with the S4 and no unlocked bootloader, are our chances higher to have issues.
My phone with all it's "gimmicks" is running fast and perfect--NO issues. I also would like TiBu and eventually a custom recovery for nandroids even if I don't flash a custom rom. Used both CWM and TWRP in the past. Also, Amon_Ra. All worked great for me.
But, like you and others will probably root and flash a custom recovery anyway.
Damn Samsung for making this so tough of a decision--
I was in same position lol I've been flashing andneven Ade a few Roms but ya know its cool and all but its a hassel sometimes enough for me to be stock! There's no reason IMO to flash anything this phone is packed to the gills with features already and its on a very new os so I feel like I wanna root and flash away but have found no reason to YET key word there and of course its purely my own standpoint
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Root it! You can get new features before they come to your carrier. ... I debated it and told myself I would stay rooted but run stock rom.... now they figured out ways to bypass the bootloader and flash roms and im back to crack flashing lol. ..
Yup. I thought I wouldn't root this thing. That lasted a week. Then I told myself it's fine the way it is, I don't need to flash a rom. That lasted 3 weeks. I'm not a flashaholic though. I usually pick one and stick with it for a while.
You think it runs fine until you've rommed it and added a kernel. Then you realize you had no idea how fine it could be.
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I wouldn't ever even own a phone that I couldn't root. It just gives you freedom over your phone. Again you don't NEED to run a custom rom to be rooted, but check out some of the TW custom Tom's that just take the phone to another level but still being stock
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Custom toms are bad ass lol I had to say it
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The Mint Jelly Rom battery life is insane ..it's worth rooting for that alone. Definitely root
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I'm more than likely going to root and load a ROM soon. I'm between two different ROMs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2280556
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2305752
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I was a flashaholic on the captivate, and S II. I loved trying new ROMs like Miui and AOKP. But, since I got the Note II and now the S 4 I don't have that desire. My only reason for rooting usually was TiBu, and only from flashing so often. Without flashing a new ROM each week I had little need for restoring apps. After three weeks I finally rooted and started trying ROMs on this phone. It was about the same for my Note. I really like TouchWiz, and miss some of those features on AOSP based ROMs. I don't see the performance need for custom ROMs on either of these phones like I did on the older phones. I guess it just came out of boredom, in the end.
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Well, I finally gave in and rooted--knew I would
Used Adam's Casual--very easy--much more so than my HTC phones
TiBu and Nandriods already in use
Next step roms--
Still haven't rooted yet. I probably will over the weekend. Why can't I leave stuff alone? HA!
Hello all,
I Currently have the S3 Running Dandroid 4.7. I really like it. Was not looking to upgrade. As it happens my wife is in need of a new phone and not due for an upgrade so she will be taking mine.
The only thing either one of us use is the Native WiFi Tethering. Is it possible on the S4? Should I just buy a used S3 and stick to the custom ROM's?
I see that rooting is possible now via External SD. Is there an exploit available to enable the Native Tethering?
Thanks in advance,
-NJ
not only is root possible for the MF3 build, there an exploit called "safestrap". it allows you (after rooting) to flash a custom rom in a secondary slot and boot into it, leaving the stock firmware untouched.
check out the link and read up on it (under step 3) for some better understanding. it might help you make the decision for S3 or S4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2
xBeerdroiDx said:
not only is root possible for the MF3 build, there an exploit called "safestrap". it allows you (after rooting) to flash a custom rom in a secondary slot and boot into it, leaving the stock firmware untouched.
check out the link and read up on it (under step 3) for some better understanding. it might help you make the decision for S3 or S4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=42320414&postcount=2
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Thank you for replying with the link that was very helpful.
Knowing my wife she would not be comfortable with the S4 this early in the modification game. TWRP is awesome but she would more than likely not be happy if I had to load ROM after ROM until the Developers coded a truly stable Daily Driver.
I'll talk to my wife tonight and see if she will take my phone for now and I'll use her cracked screen phone. That way maybe we can give the Devs a few months to mature some of the ROMS and make the upgrade to the S4 an easier decision.
Thanks for the help,
-NJ
njdevils28 said:
Thank you for replying with the link that was very helpful.
Knowing my wife she would not be comfortable with the S4 this early in the modification game. TWRP is awesome but she would more than likely not be happy if I had to load ROM after ROM until the Developers coded a truly stable Daily Driver.
I'll talk to my wife tonight and see if she will take my phone for now and I'll use her cracked screen phone. That way maybe we can give the Devs a few months to mature some of the ROMS and make the upgrade to the S4 an easier decision.
Thanks for the help,
-NJ
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no problem. glad to help.
ps. most of the roms, specifically the 4.2.2 material, is super solid. real daily driver stuff. cheers
njdevils28 said:
Hello all,
I Currently have the S3 Running Dandroid 4.7. I really like it. Was not looking to upgrade. As it happens my wife is in need of a new phone and not due for an upgrade so she will be taking mine.
The only thing either one of us use is the Native WiFi Tethering. Is it possible on the S4? Should I just buy a used S3 and stick to the custom ROM's?
I see that rooting is possible now via External SD. Is there an exploit available to enable the Native Tethering?
Thanks in advance,
-NJ
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On the AT&T S4 (on MF3) I am able to use the WiFi Hotspot on the stock out-of-the-box rom with no problem. I am currently replying to you using it with my laptop. I have not tried the USB tethering feature yet but it is there.
drichter12 said:
On the AT&T S4 (on MF3) I am able to use the WiFi Hotspot on the stock out-of-the-box rom with no problem. I am currently replying to you using it with my laptop. I have not tried the USB tethering feature yet but it is there.
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Hold the phone! You're saying that the Wi-Fi is active without paying the added fee for it on the stock ROM?
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I am pretty sure but I need to confirm with my office that they didn't automatically add that to my phone without telling me.
I will check on Monday unless someone else can confirm before then.
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Hi guys,
because there are so many ROMs available in the meantime, I wanna ask you for a recommendation. Right now, I am using the Stock ROM with root access. It means, I cannot update it to Lollipop.
After using this ROM for about a year now, I wanna change it to a newer one.
I do not want any customized ROM, because I am using my own launcher and I already know how to customize my design and apps and everything.
I just wanna find a very stable ROM that will work on the S5
SM-G900F
Baseband G900FXXU1ANCE
Kernel Version 3.4.0-1182732 31.3.2014
Build# KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANCE
Android 4.4.2
Thanks for your help!
Sven
First flash with odin stock (lollipop) ROM and flash root acces.
Than read all the s5 forums and check what the best one is for you.
Well, actually that was the reason why I started this thread. I want a recommendation, because there are too many ROM's available.
I do not need anything special. Just a stable ROM where I can install my Navigation app, gps tracker, and all my other apps.
Johnny camaro said:
First flash with odin stock (lollipop) ROM and flash root acces.
Than read all the s5 forums and check what the best one is for you.
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Read the whole first page of this treat:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=52210608
There you find all the info you need.
svenvaeth said:
Hi guys,
because there are so many ROMs available in the meantime, I wanna ask you for a recommendation. Right now, I am using the Stock ROM with root access. It means, I cannot update it to Lollipop.
After using this ROM for about a year now, I wanna change it to a newer one.
I do not want any customized ROM, because I am using my own launcher and I already know how to customize my design and apps and everything.
I just wanna find a very stable ROM that will work on the S5
SM-G900F
Baseband G900FXXU1ANCE
Kernel Version 3.4.0-1182732 31.3.2014
Build# KOT49H.G900FXXU1ANCE
Android 4.4.2
Thanks for your help!
Sven
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I like the SpaceX Rom with the ktoonsez's TW 5.0 Kernel
u people need to read the rules and post in the right section
Is the XtreStoLite INTL 2.2 really stable? I really need my phone for work and for traveling. I travel a lot and I rely on the phone, most of the time. I use it as a navigation system and as my office, when I am on the way.
svenvaeth said:
Is the XtreStoLite INTL 2.2 really stable? I really need my phone for work and for traveling. I travel a lot and I rely on the phone, most of the time. I use it as a navigation system and as my office, when I am on the way.
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Im using it atm...working great with no bugs for me..
I was going to say XtreSoLite. I was pretty much in your exact same situation. I really wanted a "pure android" ROM (I guess that might mean ASOP ROM, but I've never really figured out if that's what that means). Basically, was hoping for the same thing that goes on Nexus phones. But every ROM I tried that didn't have TouchWiz was just so incredibly buggy I figured the stock ROM was really the only usable option. Which was frustrating.
Then I tried XtreSoLite.
It's like the stock ROM, but you can get rid of the annoying sht that you don't want, and you have a little more control over customization, especially when you run through the Aroma add-on installer, which basically is a step by step "do you want this?", "do you want to remove this?", "would you like to replace this with this?" process.
The overall speed of the phone feels a little faster than with stock, and the battery life a little better. Both were solid to begin with.
My phone is the T-Mobile S5 (SM-G900T).
I'm running XtreSoLite 2.1 Lollipop XXU1BOC7 (I think it's the second to latest version -- I think I read some negative things about the latest one shortly after it came out, so you might want to just go for 2.1).
So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
itsdacj said:
So, long story short my mum had an iPhone 5, and she wanted a larger phone. The 6 and 6 Plus were way too expensive, so I said to get the Note 4. She loved it, at first. She then started to get more and more angry at it, since TouchWiz crashed often. So I said I'd custom ROM it, after all, I had done the same to my step dad's S5, he's pleased now. BUT, CM12 nightlies aren't exactly stable, and she gets crashing and stuff. Plus, she wants to be able to use her banking app, since it blocks phones with root. It works fine on my OnePlus One with Paranoid Android. Is there any kind of ROM for the Note 4, any PA ROM, any ROM without root? And no, I'm not putting it back on a TouchWiz based ROM.
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You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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Dunno what you mean? PA comes without root...
sefrcoko said:
You can install a rom and then simply un-root it afterwards. This gives you custom rom without root
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How so?
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How so?
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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The SuperSu Pro app has a Full Unroot feature in the settings. It might be there in the unpaid version too, although there are likely other ways as well.
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Alright thanks, its just CM nightlies come with built in root and stuff. They aren't exactly stable however. Is there any PA-like ROMs for the Note 4 here?
equlizer said:
How can you have a rom without root? You've already rooted it to put a custom rom on it.
Anyways I'm on TeKXodus 5.01 rom right now and its WAY better than stock. Check out his thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-boc4-tekxodus-n4-urv1-4-14-15-note4-t3082085
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I see this very often, but it isn't true.
you don't need to root for a custom rom.
on most devices (including the note 4) you need a custom recovery and an unlocked bootloader(it's often unlocked out of the box) for a custom rom.
some device(like gen8 archos devices) even allow custom roms with the official recovery thanks to a developer mode, or they don't have a signature check and just let you flash custom roms through an official updating utility(such as the old advent vega which accepted custom roms flashed through nvflash)