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Hi friend sorry for my bad english. Today i discover a new method for root for samsung galaxy note 3. I don't try because i would lost my warrant and knox can grow. For make root it's important install mobogenie on pc and on your smartphone. When you enable usb debug mobogenie will install drivers on your pc. When you open mobogenie you can do many actions (install and delete app, backup, recover and root). someone try to root with mobogenie?
Numero17 said:
Hi friend sorry for my bad english. Today i discover a new method for root for samsung galaxy note 3. I don't try because i would lost my warrant and knox can grow. For make root it's important install mobogenie on pc and on your smartphone. When you enable usb debug mobogenie will install drivers on your pc. When you open mobogenie you can do many actions (install and delete app, backup, recover and root). someone try to root with mobogenie?
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Knox grows yes.
Never heard of that. Why don't you just use cf autoroot. Knox safe methods are almost none existing on later firmwares.
kenny1991 said:
Knox grows yes.
Never heard of that. Why don't you just use cf autoroot. Knox safe methods are almost none existing on later firmwares.
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because cf root grows my knox and safe root doesn't work on my note 3 mj7
Numero17 said:
because cf root grows my knox and safe root doesn't work on my note 3 mj7
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to be frank...
MJ3 and above, you have to live with 0x1 if you want to root (at the moment).
those other rooting method flying around outthere is not proven safe though.
Like last time kingo was reported sending data to china server.
The safest root method currently is CF-autoroot for MJ3 and above. I said safe, in terms of no malware include inside. And it's proven safe to flash, with close to zero problem if you choose the correct file for your model. Only your KNOX will trip. but it's worth to sacrifice if you need root access.
Mmm..no i dont root for me its important 0x0
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
Hello,
I've was forced to create a post about that because there is almost nothing of use that can be found about that phone in the internet.
I need to know how to check the bootloader status on this device so i can safely root it, and if there are any working ROMs. I've found out that it is possible to install 9505 roms on that phone, however the touch and other crucial features do not work while using them.
Cheers, Paweł.
Thanks in advance, i appreciate Your help!
Go into download mode and if you see Knox warranty void you have new bootloader.this has nothing hover to do with safe root or not.you can still however root the device.but counter will be tripped if flashing custom recovery and kernel.
LastStandingDroid said:
Go into download mode and if you see Knox warranty void you have new bootloader.this has nothing hover to do with safe root or not.you can still however root the device.but counter will be tripped if flashing custom recovery and kernel.
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Oh thanks! :good: I will do so. But about that safe root. I wanted to use the CF Auto Root for that and it was said there that if the device has a locked bootloader it will brick if i'll try to unlock the root access.
Should i try another way to root my device or give it a try and see what happens if i'll root it using cf auto root. I know that almost none or all ways to root the device are not safe, but following some of them have higher chances of success than others that's what i meant by safe root.
Zebbro said:
Oh thanks! :good: I will do so. But about that safe root. I wanted to use the CF Auto Root for that and it was said there that if the device has a locked bootloader it will brick if i'll try to unlock the root access.
Should i try another way to root my device or give it a try and see what happens if i'll root it using cf auto root. I know that almost none or all ways to root the device are not safe, but following some of them have higher chances of success than others that's what i meant by safe root.
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All the info, rooting recoveries, roms available so far for i9515
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4/general/i9515-value-edition-roms-development-t3002535
Zebbro said:
Oh thanks! :good: I will do so. But about that safe root. I wanted to use the CF Auto Root for that and it was said there that if the device has a locked bootloader it will brick if i'll try to unlock the root access.
Should i try another way to root my device or give it a try and see what happens if i'll root it using cf auto root. I know that almost none or all ways to root the device are not safe, but following some of them have higher chances of success than others that's what i meant by safe root.
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I think you have misunderstood or misread.or users haven't understand that root is still possible. It isn't locked in any way. The bootloader still let's you flash custom kernels etc.
Rooting with cf root shouldn't and has never bricked your phone on newer recoveries. The bootloader isn't locked in the way of flashing in Odin you can still flash custom kernels and recoveries but it will trip the Knox counter.
However: tripping Knox will cause you being unable to use Knox apps from Samsung and might void your warranty.
Users have told different reports about them being tripped and got warranty and some haven't. I'm not sure if this lies in 3rd party repair centers repairing the phone even if it's tripped. I'm sure Samsung service center is against it.
I'd be 100% sure that my phone carrier would repair it no matter the status since it doesn't go trough Samsung service at first.
However to gain root you should try towelroot it's a one click apk and it won't trip Knox unless you flash a custom kernel or recovery.
While searching for a root method that wouldn't trip KNOX I ran into KINGROOT. I also read that rooting using this method for the Note 4 meant only a temporary root access, that would cease to work when the phone was rebooted.
This temporary root could work for me as I'm trying to get access to the extSDcard in 4.4.4 (Lollipop didn't work out for me, horrible battery life).
So I was wondering if anyone has tested it... Here is the link to KINGROOT thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/one-click-root-tool-android-2-x-5-0-t3107461
I have it installed but I haven't tried it yet because I don't have time atm to reinstall everything if something goes wrong.
Have you tried it?
tried it, the phone just went to reboot then kingroot apps stated that no root available yet. so in the end, i just root the phone using chainfire root method,lol.
Framaroot doesn't work either. Cf auto root is the way to go
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I have rooted with Kingroot, I've been following the SuperSuMe thread in the AT&T Note 4 General section. Kingroot works just fine if you reboot your phone after installing the apk and once the phone has rebooted then run the app to root. The root is only temporary though and WILL disappear when you reboot your phone and you will then have to rerun kingroot to root again.
Thanks for the replies
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I have rooted with Kingroot, I've been following the SuperSuMe thread in the AT&T Note 4 General section. Kingroot works just fine if you reboot your phone after installing the apk and once the phone has rebooted then run the app to root. The root is only temporary though and WILL disappear when you reboot your phone and you will then have to rerun kingroot to root again.
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Did your Knox stay 0x0? A temporary root works for me, what I'm really hoping for is to enable external SD access to my apps. I'm guessing that if you enable it when rooted it won't go away after you lose root...
henriquehfc said:
Thanks for the replies
Did your Knox stay 0x0? A temporary root works for me, what I'm really hoping for is to enable external SD access to my apps. I'm guessing that if you enable it when rooted it won't go away after you lose root...
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Yes Knox remains 0x0 because the kernel, bootloader, and recovery remain untouched. As far as the external SD access, it can be enabled, but from what I gather from the other thread, is that it will revert back if the phone reboots. The reason is due to a security check Sammy put into the boot process. So put plainly, you'd have to set it up again after rerooting.
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Yes Knox remains 0x0 because the kernel, bootloader, and recovery remain untouched. As far as the external SD access, it can be enabled, but from what I gather from the other thread, is that it will revert back if the phone reboots. The reason is due to a security check Sammy put into the boot process. So put plainly, you'd have to set it up again after rerooting.
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I guess I'll just have to try it out... Hope it works with the 910C as well as the AT&T version.
henriquehfc said:
I guess I'll just have to try it out... Hope it works with the 910C as well as the AT&T version.
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Apparently the new KingRoot is able to root the Galaxy Note 4 without tripping KNOX ...?
MarcoCzen said:
Apparently the new KingRoot is able to root the Galaxy Note 4 without tripping KNOX ...?
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Not for lollipop, root strategy unavailable. Tested for both 5.0.1 and 5.1.1.
tried but kingroot failed
lucaoldb said:
Not for lollipop, root strategy unavailable. Tested for both 5.0.1 and 5.1.1.
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That clears the air then. I have tried Kingroot v 4.5 with my sm-n910c / lollipop and to no avail.
I'm really liking the sound of a temp root. I use NFC banking and it hates root but I want a few pre-loaded apps removed. (Facebook for one) and cant without root.
BUT as I'm on 5.1.1 I guess I cant use this.
And I like to do a backup using Titanium Backup every month or so, and that also needs root. A temp root would be perfect for me.
Will kingroot be able to work on lollipop after an update or are we SOL completely?
(BTW, Note 4, 5.1.1)
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Yes Knox remains 0x0 because the kernel, bootloader, and recovery remain untouched. As far as the external SD access, it can be enabled, but from what I gather from the other thread, is that it will revert back if the phone reboots. The reason is due to a security check Sammy put into the boot process. So put plainly, you'd have to set it up again after rerooting.
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Hi what was your android version?? And banking apps run with no problem??
Hi guys!
Haven't been here for so long. I don't even know how to begin...
Well, here goes. As the title of this thread states, I need to unroot my device. It is a g900f snapdragon/international version. It's running 5.0 atm, vodafone cnx region.
I am writing this because I can't find any answer on the forum. I've seen many similar threads, but with no answers.
Can I unroot it without losing all my data? I don't want to just rewrite the entire firmware... Just a quick patch like the one used for rooting. Or something.
Please help me, or at least help me find an answer.
Settings of SuperSU have a full unroot option
*Detection* said:
Settings of SuperSU have a full unroot option
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Thank you. I hope it will work with no issue and completely unroot my device. Don't care for the warranty, didn't have any to begin with.
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Sorry but it's not working at all. That option is crap. The only thing it did was uninstall SuperSU.
Any other ideas please?
Anyone else got a good idea? Or any idea at all?
Lucian Andries said:
Thank you. I hope it will work with no issue and completely unroot my device. Don't care for the warranty, didn't have any to begin with.
EDIT:
Sorry but it's not working at all. That option is crap. The only thing it did was uninstall SuperSU.
Any other ideas please?
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SuperSU is root, uninstalling it removes root, just try to use a root app now, it will fail
Factory reset your phone
*Detection* said:
SuperSU is root, uninstalling it removes root, just try to use a root app now, it will fail
Factory reset your phone
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You couldn't be more wrong than this... Root and SuperSU are TWO different things! Only that SuperSU allows you to do some other stuff that I don't know and don't care.
I had to rewrite the entire Firmware to unroot. What a drag...
Oh well, thanks anyway.
Lucian Andries said:
You couldn't be more wrong than this... Root and SuperSU are TWO different things! Only that SuperSU allows you to do some other stuff that I don't know and don't care.
I had to rewrite the entire Firmware to unroot. What a drag...
Oh well, thanks anyway.
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You have a lot to learn
Root = access to, and R/W permissions on system files
SuperSU grants you R/W access to the root system files
So SuperSU = Root
There are other root apps, but SuperSU is the main one
Unrooting via SuperSU settings = Full unroot
If you altered system files while you were rooted, then the device knows it has been modified regardless if SuperSU is installed - in that case, of course you need to re-write the firmware to get back to stock....
Hey I believe many people have questions around the KNOX and warranty void if you root/install custom recovery.
So I woud like to know:
Is there any software besided KingOroot (doesn't work in A5 510M) or Kingroot (I'm not installing that thing because plenty of people says it steal your data or are impossible to remove) which can root without messing with partitions / custom recovery, meaning it won't trigger the knox counter?
Has anyone confirmed that by only having the KNOX counter triggered samsung has denied to give warranty? Even if the phone is unroot?
Is there any method that roots the device without KNOX tripping?
Thanks
if you are on a 5.1.x device, you might wanna give systemless root a try, i think they ported it to 5.1.x as it was a Marshmallow solution initially.
aside of that, nope.
also, a few regions, like Europe, do not accept root, and especially knox triggering as a warranty void.
and my personal two cents, trigger it, no worth at all, if your device ends up unbootable, there is no way they are going to bother reading through your chip of what you have done, most of the time you'll win the procedures if you need warranty
PlutoDelic said:
if you are on a 5.1.x device, you might wanna give systemless root a try, i think they ported it to 5.1.x as it was a Marshmallow solution initially.
aside of that, nope.
also, a few regions, like Europe, do not accept root, and especially knox triggering as a warranty void.
and my personal two cents, trigger it, no worth at all, if your device ends up unbootable, there is no way they are going to bother reading through your chip of what you have done, most of the time you'll win the procedures if you need warranty
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thanks pal! I believe samsung has made it very easy for support to check whether the knox is triggered or not, otherwise how would it help anything with them fixing less phones?
In germany (its in europe,lol) knox counter on 1 is not a problem when in warranty,just look my thread in q/a section.
The only way they would know that is through going in Download Mode... So, this is just a crazy thought, but I always planned that if something went so wrong that I couldn't fix it myself (I mean if I can go to Download I can probably still fix whatever is wrong unless the device is bricked), I would just break the volume buttons, so that they can't get to Download Mode either. I know, a rash decision, but just food for thought.
Kingroot is easily removed. Don't believe all the silly scare mongering.
It's the most successful root exploit available without tripping knox.
ashyx said:
Kingroot is easily removed. Don't believe all the silly scare mongering.
It's the most successful root exploit available without tripping knox.
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I have read plenty of cases of the thing working like a virus, sending data to china, making it impossible to remove. I will not put that in my phone. I have tried kinOroot and it didn't work. But sent stuff outside anyways...
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I have read plenty of cases of the thing working like a virus, sending data to china, making it impossible to remove. I will not put that in my phone. I have tried kinOroot and it didn't work. But sent stuff outside anyways...
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So you just go from what read rather than try it yourself and you think KingOroot is different? It does contact servers in China, that's how it works.
It's easily removed by simply uninstalling or using SuperSume.
Millions of people have used it and I don't know of one documented case of someone being hacked after using it lol.
KingRoot contacts servers in China because it takes little-to-no space. A version of it that doesn't have to contact any server, and still grant you root access... Well, such an app would be over 3GB big, and would be of the same size, even after it finishes the job and gets you root access. It would be extremely inefficient, and that is an understatement. The servers in China contain the exploits that can be used to grant access to root without using a custom recovery (as a custom recovery would trip KNOX). There are thousands and thousands of files in those servers. As I said, it would be possible to make a one-click-root app that can root thousands of devices and that doesn't make contact with any server, but you would have to include all those thousands of files in the app, in order for it to work. No one is crazy enough to do such a thing.
ashyx said:
So you just go from what read rather than try it yourself and you think KingOroot is different? It does contact servers in China, that's how it works.
It's easily removed by simply uninstalling or using SuperSume.
Millions of people have used it and I don't know of one documented case of someone being hacked after using it lol.
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King-V said:
KingRoot contacts servers in China because it takes little-to-no space. A version of it that doesn't have to contact any server, and still grant you root access... Well, such an app would be over 3GB big, and would be of the same size, even after it finishes the job and gets you root access. It would be extremely inefficient, and that is an understatement. The servers in China contain the exploits that can be used to grant access to root without using a custom recovery (as a custom recovery would trip KNOX). There are thousands and thousands of files in those servers. As I said, it would be possible to make a one-click-root app that can root thousands of devices and that doesn't make contact with any server, but you would have to include all those thousands of files in the app, in order for it to work. No one is crazy enough to do such a thing.
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I have read that if you try to remove it you can in fact brick your cell...
fscussel said:
I have read that if you try to remove it you can in fact brick your cell...
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Holy smokes...is this serious? :sly:
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Holy smokes...is this serious? :sly:
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why so funny? Reson is simple:
After people install kingroot it add many unwanted programs, and also refuses to be uninstalled. People then try to use SuperSU ME to remove it and leave just supersu, and in this process many have got a bricked device. They say this happens because of the kingroot's code to fight anything that tries to remove it.
Now, are you some sort of associate of kingroot?
PlutoDelic said:
if you are on a 5.1.x device, you might wanna give systemless root a try, i think they ported it to 5.1.x as it was a Marshmallow solution initially.
aside of that, nope.
also, a few regions, like Europe, do not accept root, and especially knox triggering as a warranty void.
and my personal two cents, trigger it, no worth at all, if your device ends up unbootable, there is no way they are going to bother reading through your chip of what you have done, most of the time you'll win the procedures if you need warranty
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systemless root needs custom recovery installed as far as I can tell. So knox counter already 0x1 because of custom recovery.
Also I would like to know, if I install custom recovery, and the an OTA update comes, for 6.0, I would have to first remove TWRP, as so to use the OTA, after that, reinstall TWRP, would that trigger the knox again?
0x2 ??
fscussel said:
why so funny? Reson is simple:
After people install kingroot it add many unwanted programs, and also refuses to be uninstalled. People then try to use SuperSU ME to remove it and leave just supersu, and in this process many have got a bricked device. They say this happens because of the kingroot's code to fight anything that tries to remove it.
Now, are you some sort of associate of kingroot?
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They say, he says, she says, do you actually have a clue what you are talking about?
I'm pretty sure I do.
It can be removed like any other app.
If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that.
It wont allow another root exploit to easily replace it, this is down to some silliness between Chainfire and King team. It is a pain but it can still be removed or replaced no problem. I wrote a whole guide how to do it.
Literally millions have achieved root with KingRoot and for many is the only way they can.
I dont advocate it nor am I against it.
Dont judge something until you've tried it.
I'll say no more on the matter now as I'm getting dizzy.
ashyx said:
They say, he says, she says, do you actually have a clue what you are talking about?
I'm pretty sure I do.
It can be removed like any other app.
If you actually knew what you were talking about you'd know that.
It wont allow another root exploit to easily replace it, this is down to some silliness between Chainfire and King team. It is a pain but it can still be removed or replaced no problem. I wrote a whole guide how to do it.
Literally millions have achieved root with KingRoot and for many is the only way they can.
I dont advocate it nor am I against it.
Dont judge something until you've tried it.
I'll say no more on the matter now as I'm getting dizzy.
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1) I don't know if it works in my A5 2016 510M, can't find a compatible list or a report.
2) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it.
3) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it with SuperSU Me, including bricking.
4) I find you very arrogant.
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1) I don't know if it works in my A5 2016 510M, can't find a compatible list or a report.
2) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it.
3) I have read reports of problems uninstalling it with SuperSU Me, including bricking.
4) I find you very arrogant.
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You are obviously learning what you know from other misinformed users.
1. Just try it if it doesn't work it doesn't work just uninstall it.
2. As I have said, no such issue.
3. There's a reason why replacing it with SuperSU bricks some devices and it has absolutely nothing to do with kingroot.
If you attempt to replace it with SuperSU on anything above 5.0.2 on a Samsung device it's likely to soft brick it and cause a boot loop.
This is due to Samsungs root restriction policy in the kernel. The same goes for Android 6.0 devices.
To root with supersu on these devices you need a patched boot.img to remove the selinux restriction.
4. I find you very misinformed.
ashyx said:
You are obviously learning what you know from other misinformed users.
1. Just try it if it doesn't work it doesn't work just uninstall it.
2. As I have said, no such issue.
3. There's a reason why replacing it with SuperSU bricks some devices and it has absolutely nothing to do with kingroot.
If you attempt to replace it with SuperSU on anything above 5.0.2 on a Samsung device it's likely to soft brick it.
This is due to Samsungs root restriction policy in the kernel. The same goes for Android 6.0 devices.
To root with supersu on these devices you need a patched boot.img to remove the selinux restriction.
4. I find you very misinformed.
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very misinformed but I have just saved my device from brick, because if you did your work your would see it's android 5.1.1 and it's samsung.
Now let me know if it works with a samsung 5.1.1 with KNOX and perhaps I will try it.
Also let me know how to remove it and install SuperSU over it.
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very misinformed but I have just saved my device from brick, because if you did your work your would see it's android 5.1.1 and it's samsung.
Now let me know if it works with a samsung 5.1.1 with KNOX and perhaps I will try it.
Also let me know how to remove it and install SuperSU over it.
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Kingroot won't brick your device, replacing it with supersu will. Not sure where in this discussion I said anything to the contrary? :what:
ashyx said:
Kingroot won't brick your device, replacing it with supersu will. Not sure where in this discussion I said anything to the contrary? :what:
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very non-productive answer... please check again