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Anyone else not been able to use this phone because of its ergonomics

I had a GS II but had to get rid of it because it caused me so much hand pain. I should declare that I do have existing problems with my hands but the Arc doesn't really cause me any problems. I think it was a combination of its width and the squareness of the design that did for me. I have tried out the Sensation and though that is only a bit narrower it seemed much easier on my hands, I reckon because it's a more rounded design.
I thought it was a good device but I am not going to keep using a phone that caused me that much constant pain.

First one i have come across though as it is larger i did recommend a young lady to hold it before buying .http://media.xda-developers.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
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Super Chimp said:
I thought it was a good device but I am not going to keep using a phone that caused me that much constant pain.
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It is a good device, just not for you. If you knew you had problems with your hand you should have spent more time with the phone before you bought it. It's like buying a car you never sat in and complaining about the driving position.

how exactly did it cause pain??? how can holding a phone hurt? there are things that are just beyond my comprehension.

Nope, i have a mans hand.

For me the phone is too slim and slippery, but silicone cover did the trick and it steadily fits my hand no problem.
I don't have too big hands but no problems with using it.

BarryH_GEG said:
It is a good device, just not for you. If you knew you had problems with your hand you should have spent more time with the phone before you bought it. It's like buying a car you never sat in and complaining about the driving position.
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I did try before buying, obviously not for long enough it seems. This is only the second phone ever that I have had this much problem with the first was the N73.
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Pretty big hand, not noticed much difference from the SGS.
Total utter 100% lefty, FWIW.

No issues here, but got large hands...

awesome-member said:
how exactly did it cause pain??? how can holding a phone hurt? there are things that are just beyond my comprehension.
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Maybe he has some injury or nerve damage so due to the width of the phone his hands hurt because of the shape they make holding the device?
I have no problems with the phone.

pulser_g2 said:
No issues here, but got large hands...
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So have I. Which makes me think it's more the design than the size. The Arc isn't that much smaller but is narrower and a much better thought out ergonomic design IMO.
By the way I should have said I have a form of nerve issue with both hands.

Well it's quite big, so it's hard to use one handed. I have really girlish hands though.
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MaBlo said:
Well it's quite big, so it's hard to use one handed. I have really girlish hands though.
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I have small hands. I had my plastic surgeon make an incision in my thenar space so I can open up the palm wide enough and hold the phone with one hand. I am now talking to that surgeon about transplanting one of my ears higher on my head.

rocketpaul said:
Nope, i have a mans hand.
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LOL, I was wondering when someone would say something along those lines! But, I think the OP has a preexisting condition. I have no issues with the phone.

cmd512 said:
LOL, I was wondering when someone would say something along those lines! But, I think the OP has a preexisting condition. I have no issues with the phone.
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lol yh it had to be done.

kreoXDA said:
I have small hands. I had my plastic surgeon make an incision in my thenar space so I can open up the palm wide enough and hold the phone with one hand. I am now talking to that surgeon about transplanting one of my ears higher on my head.
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Hehe I'm not saying that there's something wrong with the phone, but I can't reach the top left side of the screen one handed and barely reach the middle left side. That being said I wouldn't change that beautiful big screen for anything, so I can live with.
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It's a fraction too wide for me, but I can live with it just. I've suffered from a bit of RSI in the past so I can imagine how it might hurt if you have similar issues (carpal tunnel etc).
The SE Arc next to this feels much nicer in the hand as it's about 5-8mm narrower - yet still sports a 4.2" display. Maybe that would suit better.

BarryH_GEG said:
It is a good device, just not for you. If you knew you had problems with your hand you should have spent more time with the phone before you bought it. It's like buying a car you never sat in and complaining about the driving position.
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what if you bought it online like what i'm planning to do?
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how exactly did it cause pain??? how can holding a phone hurt? there are things that are just beyond my comprehension.
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i remember using my buddy's iphone 2g back in the day and that was an uncomfortable phone. it didn't hurt but it did feel real annoying after a bit because the phone wasn't shaped perfectly. same idea

lol at this thread. I have no issues with holding my phone and neither does my fiance. But I can gripe a basketball without struggling.
I thought of that burgerking commercial when I read this thread title.
this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xu_bE7g2wqM

Super Chimp said:
I had a GS II but had to get rid of it because it caused me so much hand pain. I should declare that I do have existing problems with my hands but the Arc doesn't really cause me any problems. I think it was a combination of its width and the squareness of the design that did for me. I have tried out the Sensation and though that is only a bit narrower it seemed much easier on my hands, I reckon because it's a more rounded design.
I thought it was a good device but I am not going to keep using a phone that caused me that much constant pain.
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give me the phone

About that replaceable plastic (Sammy) vs unibody (HTC) thing...

First of all I have to say, the Samsung Galaxy S3 looks veeeery good to me.
You want to know why?
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
2. Plastic, it's very sturdy and therefore less damage can happen when it's dropped e.g. to the floor. Drop an iPhone/HTC and get ready to call the service line.
3. Weight, plastic is the way to go if you want a thin and light phone. Some people here sound as if they would like a flipping phone made out of solid osmium (heaviest of all metals)
4. Replaceable components, seriously guys, UNIBODY MY ASS, I want to be able to replace the battery without having to send it to Samsung and wait for the service to fix it. On top of that Unibody doesn't allow you to buy a bigger battery for your phone (though I think the stock 2100 mAh already is good!)
And no SD Card slot like the HTC One X? LOL.
5. Sorry for my english
Those being just some arguments which definately make reasonable why Sammy doesn't choose as same path as HTC/Apple.

Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.

Master05 said:
1. Unique design, more curvy which definately will give you a better feeling when holding the phone in your hand. Just look at your palm, is it completely flat? I don't think so. Therefore it's easier to hold a curvy S3 in your hand compared to an angular shaped S2. I really think the S3 looks better and gives you more comfort just by seeing the way it's designed.
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I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?

The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Talking about similarities, just a couple of days ago I found this article very amusing..

Plastic is a terrible conductor of heat.
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Nice talk.you are a genius.like your points
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edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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Agreed. I personally like the back cover of the Galaxy Nexus. I'm not a fan of high gloss. Some kind of texture would would have been nice.

edcoppen said:
Fair points, but I'm still disappointed they went the high gloss route. IMO, if it was matt plastic it would be far more appealing.
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It's only a bit of plastic on the back that I'm sure you'll be able to buy third party ones.

ciscostud said:
The back of the phone comes completely off. I'm sure there will be hundreds of back plates to choose from.
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You can surely find lots of interesting faceplates and back covers for the SIII, even my Galaxy Ace has tons of awesome looking designs on a design store in an Indian Website(that's in english)

I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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me too.

rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture

i find it amusing that people think samsung doesnt use metal. the screen is bonded to a cast frame presumably aluminum but maybe magnesium on all the phones i have repaired. remove the battery and scrape the black area underneath with a sharp metal object if you dont believe me. the plastic they use is not only tough and fracture resistant but it's pretty much superficial.
now im sure htc has improved their designs but the evo was toy like in construction. thin cheap plastics and the pcb was a thin single layer design and the copper traces could easily seperate from the board. also the one i repaired had cold solder joints and the spring contacts they used in place or cables were falling off the board.
samsung does things that are frustrating from a development point of view but i never agreed with the quality argument.
well i'm looking forward to the s3 for the audio mostly. but i want to see what challenges the hardware offers aosp development. though i like touch wiz i dont expect samsung to support the device for more than 1 or 2 major updates. i have learned my lesson and will only buy the us version if it is the same hardware profile as the international version. and ill only buy an s3 if the bt and other hardware are aosp friendly.

Bigmille said:
I'm not sure the design is totally unique, kind remind me of the Plam Pre.
Can you see the similarity?
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Or this. Yours for only $89.

rete said:
I find it amusing that people somehow think the HOX is not made of plastic. Polycarbonates are a group of plastics.
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I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.

ph00ny said:
It's the same reason why people that own german cars think they have a better quality material eventhough it's the same plastic used in other brands just in different texture
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German cars do have a better quality , I know from experience. But I get your point its how you use the material.
I think the plastic on the back of my galaxy nexus feels great .
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Sim-1 said:
I agree with you but HOX looks more sleek. Shiny plastics give the GS3 a feel of cheaper phone. Can't wait to hold it to see how it feels in real life.
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I'm sure they will make a back that's matt just like the hox
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Yep replacement battery all the way!

PhoneArena Galaxy SIII Preview - 26 minutes !!

I think this video answers most of the discussions here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on1VgsO-LC8&feature=g-u-u

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great video! thanks for sharing.
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
iphone smooth browser scrolling

soraxd said:
anyway, great video, flash performance is amazing
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I think I won't need any third party browser anymore.
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If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device

ph00ny said:
If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.

the device dosent shows any sign of pebble blue in the whole video and no symptoms of brushed finish too!! nice...

ph00ny said:
If you can't tell by his long rant on the location of the keys, he is a well known samsung hate/iphone fanboy. You can literally tell whether the article was written by him based on the first paragraph.
However, i'm quite surprised that he actually liked the device
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He says it in the video too - lol
Fairly annoying but he was honest in the review.
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Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.

It's good to be ambidex ^_^

1 word...
ANNOYING

If you want to be really annoyed, watch their HOX vs iphone test.
Obviously this guy has to learn how to operate a man sized phone.
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Yeah this guy is rearly a hardcore Iphone fanboy, I dont like his reviews and tests cause he is not objective at all. He was trying rearly hard to find something to criticize on and than mention that every minute, he seems very annoyed that this device is better than the Iphone...

newalker91 said:
His problem is that he's a lefty and is used to a 3.5" screen.
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im a lefty. i used SGS2 and had no issues.

barondebxl said:
Yep, he sound super annoying though and I'm not referring to his accent but the tone of his voice, I can't watch 26 min of him so I usually skip to the parts that I'm interested about like browser, screen, battery life. But I think overall he always gives an honest opinion.
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I agree,
He sounds very condescending at times, lots of "obviously" and "of course". And his tone is terrible. Surely they can find someone with more ability than this dude?
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Killa357 said:
Can't say I'm disappointed that it is plastic and not metal. He seemed to drone on about the plastic design. Sure plastic shells can scratch easily, but they stand up better over time than metal ones. I've had several devices metal and plastic, and metal always interferes with signal quality and when it bends, it doesn't bend back into place like plastic does. My TF201 looks terrible with all of its dents and scratches but my Evo 3D with its plastic back and only a little bit of metal around the edge is looking decent (except for the metal which is scratched and nicked.)
What is everyone's deal about plastic? A ceramic coating would have been interesting, but we have already seen the coating chipping off on one model of the HTC One series phones.
EDIT: Ok, so I see I wasn't the only person that found the way he complained about the keys and other nitpicking to be a bit biased and annoying.
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stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!

Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
vasp3690 said:
stay away from ceramic coating!!! good thing Samsung didnt go there.
I sent my 3d htc one s back for a refund and preordered the SGS3 for that reason alone!!
By the way, flimsy plastic? So what? You scratch it and buy a new one, the phone looks like new.
try to do that with an alloy-ceramic phone.... No chance!
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I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.

Very annoying. Love the phone. Plastic back is better for radio signal. Drop a plastic backed phone and you will get back a scratched but still very much working phone not like a glass backed device. Very easy to tell an I-Phone fan boy. Could not watch or listen to entire video due to the annoying Fan Boy.
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tolis626 said:
Well,PhoneArena's reviews are really good,as long as you don't watch the videos.
Although...iPhone smooth?Nowadays the iPhone is Android smooth.With ICS my Desire HD is smoother than the iPhone 4 of a friend and rivals the 4S.My S2 rapes them both.
I'd have loved it to be HTC Sensation-style,where you can replace the whole housing apart from the screen in the form of a battery cover.That way you just don't give a rat's ass about scratches etc.
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phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S

soraxd said:
notes i took away from this video:
flash performance is amazing.
S-Voice looks promising, hope to see it surpass SIRI.
camera has HDR?! WOW! if its true HDR =]
Camera is not finished, so those shots you saw in another thread arent from a production model either
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I do not think that because something else will change with the camera

ph00ny said:
phonearena is generally good as long as it wasn't reviewed by Ray S
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This was John V or something.
Well,they are a really good site in fact.They may not have all the stuff Anandtech does,nor do they publish everything new instantly like SlashGear,Engagdet etc,but they do it all and do it well(Does that sound somehow...? ).I prefer them for my everyday mobile tech news reading.
EDIT:****,I must have my ears checked.He is Ray.John isn't the fanboy.I confused the voices and thought John was the annoying one.

I can't be the only one!

Has anyone noticed or felt that looking at other people's Notes makes your own note feel smaller? like, even though it's the same size, other people's notes look bigger to me.
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If you are feeling small or not confident ...
Then shove a big fat mugen extended battery in the back with extended battery cover
... problem solved
No one will ever written your phone's girth
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huh? not me, I don't have this feeling. Well perhaps they use a case which make their Note look bigger than yours if you are not using a protective casing?
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Then shove a big fat mugen extended battery in the back with extended battery cover
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lol...with such a big battery, the Note will definitely look like a brick which is the perfect term. People were looking in disgust when I used extended batteries in my past phones which made them looked bigger - since then, I had never bought any extended batteries - if I need juice, I take my 2nd stock battery with me.

Lol i get the exact same thing. I was watching a video of how to do some stuff on a note on youtube and thought the guys note looked bigger than mine.
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Stanley Richards said:
Has anyone noticed or felt that looking at other people's Notes makes your own note feel smaller? like, even though it's the same size, other people's notes look bigger to me.
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Yes i do feel , they feel bigger

Funny that my colleague hasgot one in white following my great advice lol and everytime i see it ive said your phones bigger than mine, i went even as far as to compare them side to side, but yeah it seems odd, then again i am odd, actually wheres my meds

Stanley Richards said:
Has anyone noticed or felt that looking at other people's Notes makes your own note feel smaller? like, even though it's the same size, other people's notes look bigger to me.
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ACTUALLY....
that's a well known medical condition commonly called Notus Envie.

Oh I just take out my work phone (iphone) for a minute and play with. Then my Note grows again..... ;-) then the iphone feels like a toy
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Mine looks bigger!
Maybe i'm over confident / un-shy or something like that
Seriously, you guys should go to a psycologist

Lol at all these. Actually I've had the same feeling too, and done the double check. On a related note, when I got my Note I ended up going to Amsterdam two days later, and saw 3 Notes on my first day! Helped convince my (iPhone toting) friends it was the best phone in the world!
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I work with wood and before I actually bought my note I made a mock up of it lol I know, how sad, same size, and even stuck a picture on it to replicate the screen size and drew a hardware button on the front. Still think my fake one is better lol only joking hehe.
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krazman325 said:
ACTUALLY....
that's a well known medical condition commonly called Notus Envie.
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You are very close! It is actually a well documented psyco-medical condition called "notusus envititis". Medical scientists are currently working furiously for a lasting solution. I doubt if they will succeed before a bigger screened device appears on the scene.

Q - Whats better than a Gnote?
A- Two Gnotes

I'm feeling it too, especially when I see girls with Note in the street and transport. It seems a lot bigger than mine...

The same thing happens when I look at 27" monitors at a store compared to mine at home haha

You got to have a big hand. Thats why when you see others hold their note with their small hands its look bigger...
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And here I was thinking that I was going insane. Seems I'm not the only one, I am normal, Yeah Baby!
I've got XL hands, so when I see girls/guys-with-girly-hands use it... I'm like man that's humongous. Mine never looks large, but it feels large with the TPU case on which I only have for the kickstand.
If Samsung shaved the bezels, made it thinner and added a kickstand... I'd be right at home. And if they trimmed it down a 0.1 inch, then I could do acrobatics on one hand ; )

So do you feel the same when showering at the gym?
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same feeling. but then when I see my nepnew's S3, I feel happy n my G.Note becomes bigger.

Lol no you're not alone. I had the same feeling on the tube home last night. I own the Note in white and a commuter opposite me had the Note in black. His looked bigger when I looked at my own but then realised duh same device haha

I would LOVE an iPhone 5...if it ran Android

I hate Apple, and I always will. I will never buy from Apple or support it at all...but I really wish there where Android phones that had the same hardware quality as Apple. I love my Atrix, but squeeze it, it creaks. The back is flimsy, the camera lens scratches and its all soo plasticity, and a lot of Android phones are like this. All plastic, creaky, and over all compare to Apples phones, just horribly cheep feeling. I love Android an would never move to Apple, but I still would really love an Android phone that matched iPhone 4/4s or especially iPhone 5 quality. Just don't think it'll ever happen though, sadly.

That's why hardware-wise, Apple will always dominate in that category.
I don't care what anyone says otherwise. Take off your green colored glasses if you disagree.
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This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.

nerfman100 said:
This is ignoring the fact that even Apple products have their flaws. You all seem to think that all Apple products are perfect hardware-wise, when in reality they all have problems. Nothing's perfect, and you all need to get that through your heads.
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No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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Yeah, not perfect.. just cut with diamonds and lasers n **** xD
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andrew.cambridge said:
No one said they were perfect. They dominate in the hardware category.
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If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.

Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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That's very true. Nokias are built like tanks. And a lot of iphones owners have their screens cracked.
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Acvice said:
If they dominate the category so much, why is it that 45%ish of iphones I see people with are cracked all to hell? Nokia, they continue to have arguably the best build quality in the industry. Counterpoint-- the only thing apple does that gives the impression that they have the ability to create a solid phone is that they only produce one product. Given that fact, they're phone should be much better in every area than it actually ever is.
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The part that cracks is maybe 3$ to replace online. 2 screws at the bottom. People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.

Atrix is actually a very nice compromise between aesthetics and tank phone. Part of the process when I pick a phone is how it looks and feels. A case changes that. Its not about looking cool or showing off. That implies I give a damn what others think.. I digress. Be ninja. Your phone is too important to drop, not to mention too damned expensive, but atrix can take it.
I've seen people holding cracked iPhones too.. usually they're also holding a joint and a skateboard. Or five things in each hand while simultaneously trying to make a call. can't blame that on apple fellas
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andrew.cambridge said:
People need to put cell phones in cases regardless because no cell phone without a case is going to withstand a 4 foot drop without some damage.
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There's a big difference between a completely shattered screen vs a small flake of paint coming off of my phone from a 4 foot drop. I had an iphone 3g that the screen was completely shattered and the back shell cracked from tripping over a rock and my iphone flung. Had the same thing happen with my atrix and just a lil paint came off (and my atrix bounced and hit the side of my house) neither had cases.... moral of the story drunk txting is bad
But yeah anyway, iphones dont have the best track record when it comes to hardware durability and I want to know where you're buying a screen shipped for $3 that's as good of quality as the origional... and to your comment about the iphone 4g, I've had a sales rep sit on his brand new iphone 4gs and it shattered his screen (again no case was on the phone). I've done that several times with my atrix and a nokia with no issues.
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nerfman100 said:
No thanks, I don't want my nice looking phone to be hidden beneath some ugly case. I actually had a case on my Atrix once. Broke in 2 weeks. The Atrix itself has actually taken more damage that that case without much harm. I probably just had a bad case, though. It sure was ugly.
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This is what I thought until I dropped the phone from chest hight onto a concrete car park floor. Gorilla glass is structurally very tough and flexible but doesn't like impact and will break along micro scratches caused by leaving your phone face down on any gritty surface. I just got a black tpu case that has a nice lip around the screen edges but is otherwise nice and discrete. I can use my lapdock fine as it fits perfectly with the connections after removing the plastic tray and it cost me around £2. I love not having a case but it's so damn hard locating good replacement digitizers for the atrix I would rather play it safe.
As for apple hardware, it does seem pretty good quality, the I phone 4/s had a really nice weight to it and I have no doubt that the new device will feel more solid than most devices on the marked (excluding the lumia devices ) how this relates to their ruggedness I'm not sure (putting a glass back on a phone really is stupid ) still I would love a sapphire crystal over my camera lense! Android manufacturers really do need to up the quality though, a phone goes with you everywhere and needs to be fairly rugged. Although the Atrix is pretty decent I do wish it was more solid.
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You can consider Razr series for the best build quality. Backcase made by kevlar and housing full of metal.

Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/

MewRai95 said:
Hey hey heyyyy~ Theres always this if you want an Android powered iPhone: http://techcrunch.com/2012/08/28/the-new-iphone-already-has-an-android-powered-clone/
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Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Since this a topic about iPhone vs Atrix 4G, I would like to have your opinion on the following. Currently I am not flowing with cash, and I have an iPhone 3G - I saw the Atrix 4G 16GB unlocked on ebay for like 228 (I am in Brazil so hence the unlock) So is the Atrix 4G a good phone (better than my 3G?) Can it run ICS or Jellybean thru custom roms off course, and how is it's gaming power?
Thanks

Soldier-2Point0 said:
Using that atrocity in public would be like saying you enjoy a well placed kick in the nuts when deep down inside you really know you hate it.
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Well if want Android on iPhone that's the closest you're are ever going to get. Anyway it isn't even that bad, considering the screen is up to retina standards and has pretty good specs such as a Tegra 3. Anyway disregarding the fact that it's a fake iPhone, I bet the build quality is pretty good.
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andrew.cambridge said:
Serious question...has anyone claiming otherwise actually used an iPhone4+
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Me. It honestly depends what your intended use of a phone that is the final decision in this case. If you just want a phone that simply works, an IPhone is better, because its very limited in area to improve. Lots of restrictions, developer-wise.
If being able to improve performance in multiple aspects; Android all the way. What does the IPhone really offer when jailbroken? Tweaked themes? Sure, you can unlock it to be used on other carriers...but who wants just 3G?
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HTC dominates in build quality too. My old Aria was perfect in build quality to me. I have never had a phone that had like problems with the hardware. I have always gotten lucky and gotten a phone that was made well!
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Yeah, Crapple will always dominate in the crapPhone category.
Others are welcome to create their own categories which they do pretty well.
My fem uses her very special HTC Evo 3D. I want to see Crapple capable of creating a kind of similar device. Next century eventually?