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Update rolling out - camera quality improved

Looks like T-Mobile is now officially getting a software update to improve the camera. The linked article has comparison pictures and it looks like the quality is greatly improved. Check it ou
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/09/23/moto-x-camera-update-new-vs-old/
Here's another comparison with more pics:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7353/moto-x-update-dramatically-improves-camera-quality

I've said it before in numerous threads, the camera was already taking quite decent pictures compared to my old N4. Now with this update, pic quality just went up to the point it can actually compete with the sgs4. I don't expect Moto to stop here as they will continue to make further refinements by the time they release 4.3/4.4.

can anyone rip the new camera apk?

wow great to hear this.. hope i get this update soon. I am with att

18t said:
can anyone rip the new camera apk?
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I could be very wrong, but I think the issues with the camera were outside of the APK. That's why third party solutions didn't fix it.
(I haven't received my moto x yet, so take this with a grain of salt)

I wonder if this update is in the works for other carriers...

Looks like low light performance is gonna take a hit, but it's a necessary sacrifice.
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can anyone rip the new camera apk?
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I'm pretty sure it's a firmware update to the camera not just a new apk.

MajorTankz said:
Looks like low light performance is gonna take a hit, but it's a necessary sacrifice.
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Yeah - the Low light performance was awesome - granted it had a lot of noise, but thats what you sacrifice for taking a picture where normally you wouldn't be able to (high iso)
I guess everyone *****ing about the amount of noise made them reduce the max iso setting.

Reviews look great so far. Can't wait until ATT gets the update.

The Anandtech gallery has me super excited...the picture difference is amazing!

SubliminalME said:
The Anandtech gallery has me super excited...the picture difference is amazing!
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You all think the camera is better than the S4 now? I've used both phones and while I prefer the Moto X, the previous cam was just awful. So much so that I returned the phone and went back to my S4 Google Edition.

Hard to say..only t mobile people have the update...and t mobile doesn't work within miles of my house.
Have to wait for it to hit the other carriers, probably.

HELL YEAH! This just made my buying decision a lot more simple!

Can anyone confirm the firmware/software version post update?
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Can anyone confirm the firmware/software version post update?

Will this break root when it comes to VZW?
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dier325 said:
Will this break root when it comes to VZW?
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dwd3885 said:
You all think the camera is better than the S4 now? I've used both phones and while I prefer the Moto X, the previous cam was just awful. So much so that I returned the phone and went back to my S4 Google Edition.
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In one of the links they compare the GS4 and G2 to the Moto X's updated camera. I actually think the Moto X looks the best however commenters seem to think the GS4 is still better.
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Jeez man, just asked a question.
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Any chance this update included wifi calling?
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Will this break root when it comes to VZW?
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I'm curious about this as well, can our rooted phones take OTAs now that our recoveries were changed?

14.1.G.1.534 vs 14.1.G.2.257 Camera Comparison

These pictures were taken with both firmwares about 8 minutes apart (updated in the park) on the same phone and in roughly the same light. I would have been faster but there was a Dutch family taking pictures and I didn't want to have them in the picture.
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jluster said:
These pictures were taken with both firmwares about 8 minutes apart (updated in the park) on the same phone and in roughly the same light. I would have been faster but there was a Dutch family taking pictures and I didn't want to have them in the picture.
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Great job! Is nice to see some actual comparisons behind everyone's anecdotal comments that the camera is better in 257. Thanks for the proof. :thumbup:
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Are these on SA mode?

kiwi45 said:
Are these on SA mode?
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No, Manual, 8MP 4:3, no scene, no EV, no processing.

goodjob dude

This is brilliant. Only just got my xperia Z1 yesterday, so these comparisons are superb

Great comparison, thanks! Any chance of uploading the full size originals?

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No, Manual, 8MP 4:3, no scene, no EV, no processing.
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Perfect! I was wondering if the improvement only applied to Superior Auto mode, Burst, Panorama and what not but not the Manual. Turns out it seems to really be on their post-processing software and not just the various modes!
This made my day and I'm excited to shoot even more stuff with the new firmware. Thanks!
P.S. 8 Minute update time is really fast! I updated mine through SUS around 2 hours

bloodfire1004 said:
P.S. 8 Minute update time is really fast! I updated mine through SUS around 2 hours
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I had the download finished, all it took was the flash and reboot. Was amazed, too, considering it takes about 3 hours for my HTC phones to upgrade.

SA mode compare, please, someone.

jluster said:
I had the download finished, all it took was the flash and reboot. Was amazed, too, considering it takes about 3 hours for my HTC phones to upgrade.
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I see Phones Review have picked up on this.

Beards said:
I see Phones Review have picked up on this.
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Yeah, way to go just grab content and **** adverts around it (I am borrowing liberally from the commenter on the piece). Also how did they make me "Dutch". As an Icelander I am shocked by this accusation. An Icelander taking pictures in Germany becomes Dutch, I guess...

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Yeah, way to go just grab content and **** adverts around it (I am borrowing liberally from the commenter on the piece). Also how did they make me "Dutch". As an Icelander I am shocked by this accusation. An Icelander taking pictures in Germany becomes Dutch, I guess...
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every site has copied the same post and even on GsmArena, PhoneArena everyone calling you Dutch :silly: Mail them regarding this if you want :good:

one more here .

Post full res pic please. Wanna see the noise levels.

eggman89 said:
Post full res pic please. Wanna see the noise levels.
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u can have very good comparison idea with the one i've posted its only resided 50% coz of huge size .

Thanks for this @jluster
I was in a dilemma should I flash 257 or wait for next firmware and now I have my answer.... I will flash it and will flash it as soon as possible
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It seems that the old version can't focus accurately, or it was a Gauss Blur filter in the old algorithm.

more photos comparison pleaseeeee :good:

New firmware using manual
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Lg2 camera settings

What have you guys found is the best camera settings for non outdoor sunny settings)- auto, normal, auto flash, sports? Night?
Can't figure it out?
Also, is it best to hold and let camera multi focus? Or tap screen to focus
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the time it takes to focus makes any moving shots impossible. anyone aware of solution to this?

I wish. It's to the point where I'm ready for a new phone already. The camera is a joke on this phone, unless you are taking landscape still photos. Anything with motion and you have no chance.
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Always the lowest iso setting when possible.
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stickmage said:
the time it takes to focus makes any moving shots impossible. anyone aware of solution to this?
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Yeah I found this out very quickly when trying to take pictures of my little nephew running around the place. Not one usable pic of about 25 I took, very disappointing.
On a related note I presume once the viewfinder boxes go green that means it has focused?

cathain said:
Yeah I found this out very quickly when trying to take pictures of my little nephew running around the place. Not one usable pic of about 25 I took, very disappointing.
On a related note I presume once the viewfinder boxes go green that means it has focused?
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Try Fast Burst Camera. I tried it out on my daughter and it worked much better than the LG Camera.

emplox said:
I wish. It's to the point where I'm ready for a new phone already. The camera is a joke on this phone, unless you are taking landscape still photos. Anything with motion and you have no chance.
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Ugh, I just got this phone, and part of the reason I went for it is because I had read really good things about the camera. My last camera sucked...guess I should have went for the S4

Vertigo06 said:
Try Fast Burst Camera. I tried it out on my daughter and it worked much better than the LG Camera.
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Cool will give it a shot. Any idea what the difference is between the free and paid versions?

Don't use photosphere it crashes the phone
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Idk if any of u guys ROM your phones but malladus and buckeye updated the camera a little bit... Still kinda sucks at night tho
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Hmm.. Funny.. I took this doing 65 in a vehicle.
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This was my dog leaping up to greet my son.
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I guess I am not sure what everyone expects? To me, I am amazed I get the quality I see from a phone. This is far better than the Motorola we have in the house, an S3 and bionic, and far better than my Galaxy Nexus. I am pleased. Of course I suck at photography. It is also as good as my Nikon point and shoot digital camera though it is getting dated.
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Cute dog
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cathain said:
Cool will give it a shot. Any idea what the difference is between the free and paid versions?
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The paid version includes a few extra features like digital zoom and night shooting mode. Things like that.

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Awesome shots. Like I said, I am not seeing most of the issues people state or my eye is just not photography trained. My thoughts are people just expect too much from a phone point and click. Here are some shots of my dog trotting outside on a very overcast morning. Almost dark.
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I use sport mode for any moving shots.
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I guess i am expecting a little better with moving subjects as they really push that in this commercial - i am getting nothing like this. Most of mine are like the ones they show "other" cameras doing. I dont do any special settings - and i get same results no matter if i am in iA Mode or not.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpHi3w7qOh8&noredirect=1

Initially I found the LG G2 camera very disappointing, but ever since I flashed the modded one, my results have improved dramatically.
Yes, you have to be rooted, but at least this proves that it's a software issue, not a hardware issue!
Cheers!

i just use stock and it works great every time

For sue LG G2 camera is really good, far better than my previous SGS3, BUT also for sure as soon as sun is not here (inside for example), you cannot ake sharp picture of moving things (children...)
That is really disapointing!!!
Ryan ? concerning http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2471900 "[MOD][Camera][ALL MODELS] 2.5.3 [Low light FPS FIXED"
which version did you try ? 2.5.3 ? When take photos, are the results on moving things far better ???
Thanks for your help !!

The camera quality in android 4.3

Hi to Friends
Friends Do you think the camera quality
Update Android 4.3, this phone is better ?
Please just tell us your opinion with a reason
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I don't know why my xperia sp overexposes pictures so badly. Could it be because my lens are a little bit scratched?

to me the pictures look awesum
i love the camera
tho ya Z2 has a better camera but anywayz its not bad
4.3 update has gotten a little better in low light situations
overall it has also improved

Its awsom bro

Wow the pics are awesome man

Did you use Intelligent Auto or Manual mode to take these pictures?

But i cn say the camera quality is awesome outdoors.
But indoors theres too
Much of noise in the pics

Great pictures!
4.3 is better in camera than 4.1.2
4.3 hasn't got BE2 and it's good because colors are more natural!

hi bro
its very beautiful picture
thanks alot
yes in 4.3 better than 4.1

Nice photo:laugh:

cnkhanh said:
Did you use Intelligent Auto or Manual mode to take these pictures?
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Manual and 8 megapixel mode
dipesh1502 said:
But i cn say the camera quality is awesome outdoors.
But indoors theres too
Much of noise in the pics
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Yes
Not good indoor photos

Hi,, I got a PM with a link to this thread?
I dont understand it

Ridiculous imaging experience
I hate my SP's camera. Picture looks ridiculous when i zoom any picture that taken from my SP.
Now feeling jealous to see your sample image captured from your SP.
Can you please tell me which setting do you use like ISO, HDR, Stabilization etc. I use manual mode to take that image on below-
To check full resolution image follow this- http://www.arif-khan.net/xda/sample.JPG
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Hi,, I got a PM with a link to this thread?
I dont understand it
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Me too & also i have no idea why.

SKA67 said:
Manual and 8 megapixel mode
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Excellent photos, both the quality and the way you took them.:good::good:
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I hate my SP's camera. Picture looks ridiculous when i zoom any picture that taken from my SP.
Now feeling jealous to see your sample image captured from your SP.
Can you please tell me which setting do you use like ISO, HDR, Stabilization etc. I use manual mode to take that image on below-
To check full resolution image follow this- http://www.arif-khan.net/xda/sample.JPG
Me too & also i have no idea why.
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Digital zoom isn't great. I like to play around with a different zoom app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hantor.CozyMag
but you need a very steady hand.
Mike

Guys should i change my Xperia L for an Xperia SP?In terms of camera quality.They have same camera right?

Nice pictures indeed!
The quality has been improved alot!! That's for sure!

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Digital zoom isn't great. I like to play around with a different zoom app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hantor.CozyMag
but you need a very steady hand.
Mike
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Zoom doesn't matter for me, i just want to explain that- when i zoom-in any photo that taken from my SP that looks but when i Ridiculous/photo quality drops but i check a lot of sample image that taken from SP(photo quality still fine while zooming).
Example- http://www.arif-khan.net/xda/DSC_0811.jpg

mrjraider said:
Nice pictures indeed!
The quality has been improved alot!! That's for sure!
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Outdoor pictures are wonderful but indoor pictures are not that good..
Was expecting more from SONY when I bought this phone :/...

SONY xperia xz premium photo thread

A lot of post discussion on the well know problem let's keep that out of here. Let's post some shots from your new Xperia and let's see what you have captured with this great phone.
Some of my random shots all on auto mode with no filters or edits. Scaled for post, better resolutions --> http://tinypic.com/PuffinNugs
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Thanks for the thread Here are my first contribution

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Thanks for the thread Here are my first contribution
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some very nice photos
here's a few more from yesterday

Took some pictures of flowers to test out the sharpness, color accuracy and detail of the camera.

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Took some pictures of flowers to test out the sharpness, color accuracy and detail of the camera.
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The last picture with the purple flowers pretty amazing. the details in the second are pretty sharp too. Im personally loving this camera.
tried out one of the effect addons you can add to the camera app. this one has the background defocus, its actually really cool and easy to use, lowers down to 8mp though.

Can someone try low-light shots with manual settings please?

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Can someone try low-light shots with manual settings please?
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Here you go, some were handheld, some were taken with tripod. Generally it's not easy to take a decent night photo, especially when Sony decided to limit manual settings (you can't setup ISO and shutter speed simultaneously, you can either set ISO or shutter speed...)
For pixel peepers original photos are here : https://www.mediafire.com/?qn1y6leipkvp4zg

admad said:
Here you go, some were handheld, some were taken with tripod. Generally it's not easy to take a decent night photo, especially when Sony decided to limit manual settings (you can't setup ISO and shutter speed simultaneously, you can either set ISO or shutter speed...)
For pixel peepers original photos are here : https://www.mediafire.com/?qn1y6leipkvp4zg
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Rzeszów?

Dragoore said:
Rzeszów?
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Yup, all taken in Rzeszów, Poland

admad said:
Here you go, some were handheld, some were taken with tripod. Generally it's not easy to take a decent night photo, especially when Sony decided to limit manual settings (you can't setup ISO and shutter speed simultaneously, you can either set ISO or shutter speed...)
For pixel peepers original photos are here : https://www.mediafire.com/?qn1y6leipkvp4zg
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very nice pictures

admad said:
Yup, all taken in Rzeszów, Poland
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Ja z Krakowa, ale żona z Rzeszowa - często tam jestem, fajne miasto
Pozdrawiam

admad said:
Here you go, some were handheld, some were taken with tripod. Generally it's not easy to take a decent night photo, especially when Sony decided to limit manual settings (you can't setup ISO and shutter speed simultaneously, you can either set ISO or shutter speed...)
For pixel peepers original photos are here : https://www.mediafire.com/?qn1y6leipkvp4zg
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Thank you a lot for posting the original full-sized pictures!
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Does the low light performance improve when setting the resolution to 8MP or lower?

Dragoore said:
Ja z Krakowa, ale żona z Rzeszowa - często tam jestem, fajne miasto
Pozdrawiam
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Mały świat Również pozdrawiam.
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Thank you a lot for posting the original full-sized pictures!
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Does the low light performance improve when setting the resolution to 8MP or lower?
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Nope, low light performance is not affected by picture size. If you have a steady hand and set low shutter speed in manual camera (which is pretty easy, at least Sony did the easy part good ) you will get good pictures.

Some more pics
Indoor low light..
Tried defocus background Sony app:

not really a photo I guess but did a video of a fireworks display at a theme park 1080p 30 fps
https://youtu.be/EW9HiFJTDbk

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Very nice Rzeszów during night

Forgot to turn the flash off
Handheld in street light (very low light)
Handheld night .. 11:40 PM

Manual
Auto
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Superior Auto: