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And I thought killing apps on android is a thing of the past.

back many years ago (3 to 4 years) on my Xperia mini pro, i had to have a apps that kill background apps to save memory for foreground apps. now thats a thing of the past, android versions now can manage memory better...well yes, but not power...apparently if you leave some apps running on background it still consumes power on my note2 until you kill it.
i have a game "4 pics 1 word" which i think doesnt know how to properly "exit" that i left on background, 6 hours later my 100% battery came down to 52% because of AudioOut_2 partial wakelocks according to BetterBattery. Ive recharged my phone and restarted it, 6 hours later my battery is still 82%. thats 30% different because of an app that dont know how to sleep (insomnia apps).
so yeah, be careful of some apps that you leave on background, some of them dont know how to sleep.

BratPAQ said:
back many years ago (3 to 4 years) on my Xperia mini pro, i had to have a apps that kill background apps to save memory for foreground apps. now thats a thing of the past, android versions now can manage memory better...well yes, but not power...apparently if you leave some apps running on background it still consumes power on my note2 until you kill it.
i have a game "4 pics 1 word" which i think doesnt know how to properly "exit" that i left on background, 6 hours later my 100% battery came down to 52% because of AudioOut_2 partial wakelocks according to BetterBattery. Ive recharged my phone and restarted it, 6 hours later my battery is still 82%. thats 30% different because of an app that dont know how to sleep (insomnia apps).
so yeah, be careful of some apps that you leave on background, some of them dont know how to sleep.
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I'm using DeepSleep Battery Saver. Great app works perfectly on my phone for several weeks now. Greatly increased battery life since it kills any unwanted app when putting the device in sleep mode.

Sv: And I thought killing apps on android is a thing of the past.
Even the xda premium app doesn't sleep properly.
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Just use LBE security manager or some other app that can stop apps from autostarting and those apps will not run in the background anymore.
Note that LBE security manager is very comprehensive and might help with privacy and ads as well as some other things. Also download the en version from xda instead of the poorly translated version from the market.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37660848&postcount=858
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Even the xda premium app doesn't sleep properly.
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Even I sometimes don't sleep properly. Just kidding... I noticed it too; XDA Premium and other apps sometimes drain battery due to partial wakelocks :-/ I don't understand how this can still be such a huge issue on a mobile operating system.......

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I don't understand how this can still be such a huge issue on a mobile operating system.......
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It isn't an issue with the operating system - the issue is with poorly written apps!
There is always going to be a certain class of app that does need to keep the phone from sleeping quite legitimately, and you don't want the OS killing these off. Apps like XDA Premium really have very little reason to consume many CPU cycles when not active, so the fact it keeps the phone awake is the fault of the app and not the OS, because it can't determine if the wakelocks are legitimate (former class of app), or just as a result of poor coding (latter class of app).
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Dave

Uninstall 4in1 it has some nasty spam. Like opening a link in Chrome may make an advert open and then open the play store to one of their other apps.
Uninstall it.
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The AudioOut_2 wakelock has something to do with alarms and silent mode, something I've never managed to remedy completely on the note 2. If you play a game or watch a video in silent mode, the wakelock will sometimes appear.
On topic, by far the best method to calm down nasty apps, is the app greenify here on xda and play store. If you read the first post of that thread, many of the answers to why android apps behave like this are there.
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Does disabling the notification in xda premium help out with the sleep problems the app has?
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I use greenify.
I have selected every app that uses sound or shows up in bbs.
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I disable notifications on every app and now I noticed reduced times for partial wake locks.

Google Services Battery Drain

Today I noticed that Google Services is draining battery by using some services but unlike before it is using it a lot.
Did any one experience this strange issue?

Turn off GPS and auto sync.
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Turn off GPS and auto sync.
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I'm pretty sure that's one of the ways we can take in order to save a bit more battery, but then again, why are we buying high-end devices with GPS tracking for whatever apps or security as I have (cerberus app) or real-time mails of work, social feed, etc.
Someone will say that they don't need instant mails on the device or don't want the GPS; point is, having GPS/push notifications should not be an issue for any user since those are the features we can, want, could use..
Only thing I really miss on blackberry devices...

This did not happen before which makes it strange, well at least not having that much percentage.
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andyabc said:
This did not happen before which makes it strange, well at least not having that much percentage.
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X2. I agree, google services wasn't that bad for me before. But the last week or 2 its been quite bad. Im running rootmax v4 and am struggling to make my phone last 24 hours on one charge now, whereas before I could do it. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN.... is the bugger thats causing wakelocks for me!

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X2. I agree, google services wasn't that bad for me before. But the last week or 2 its been quite bad. Im running rootmax v4 and am struggling to make my phone last 24 hours on one charge now, whereas before I could do it. GTALK_ASYNC_CONN.... is the bugger thats causing wakelocks for me!
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Just to update on this. I done some reading online and found a few people mentioned that it was the latest play store update causing the battery drain. I went ino the app manager and deleted the update an went back to the original playstore apk that came with the rom.THis seems to have reduced my google services drain and my phone is lasting longer now

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Just to update on this. I done some reading online and found a few people mentioned that it was the latest play store update causing the battery drain. I went ino the app manager and deleted the update an went back to the original playstore apk that came with the rom.THis seems to have reduced my google services drain and my phone is lasting longer now
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Awesome, thanks for the update.
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Android OS wakelock draining battery

I've seen people here and there say they've seen this too, but no one seems to have an answer. My battery isn't lasting until work ENDS, a far cry from when I used to plug it in after work, at home, at 20-30%. It just randomly started happening.
Noticed this on both 4.2.2 and 4.3. I've tried .48 radio and .83, stock and PA, stock kernel and Franco, heard it's common on CM also.
Anyone actually know anything about this? I'd love to last an entire day not having to turn off sync when I'm not using my phone, and other battery salvaging methods.
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jphilippon said:
I've seen people here and there say they've seen this too, but no one seems to have an answer. My battery isn't lasting until work ENDS, a far cry from when I used to plug it in after work, at home, at 20-30%. It just randomly started happening.
Noticed this on both 4.2.2 and 4.3. I've tried .48 radio and .83, stock and PA, stock kernel and Franco, heard it's common on CM also.
Anyone actually know anything about this? I'd love to last an entire day not having to turn off sync when I'm not using my phone, and other battery salvaging methods.
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This is < 9 hours unplugged and < 2 hours SOT.
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lets see a screenshot of your whole battety stats page, with all the apps listed and usage. that android os by itself means nothing.

jphilippon said:
I've seen people here and there say they've seen this too, but no one seems to have an answer. My battery isn't lasting until work ENDS, a far cry from when I used to plug it in after work, at home, at 20-30%. It just randomly started happening.
Noticed this on both 4.2.2 and 4.3. I've tried .48 radio and .83, stock and PA, stock kernel and Franco, heard it's common on CM also.
Anyone actually know anything about this? I'd love to last an entire day not having to turn off sync when I'm not using my phone, and other battery salvaging methods.
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Download wakelock detector and greenify from Play store. Wakelock detector will tell u what exactly is keeping ur phone awake and freeze it with greenify
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simms22 said:
lets see a screenshot of your whole battety stats page, with all the apps listed and usage. that android os by itself means nothing.
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Meant to include both sorry.
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jphilippon said:
Meant to include both sorry.
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your android os looks normal. seeing that you didnt use the phone much, your screen on percent is lowered. since your screen on percentage is lower, all others will appear higher than you would think they should be. but if your screen was using 50-65% of the battery as it would for normal use, then your other percentages would be lower. anyways, your android os is normal. what i would look for is an app in the background behaving badly, or disable a notification or two if you have many. if you have root, i would install greenify and then greenify a bunch of apps.
my android os usually hangs between 4-8%, but my screen is usually around 60%(with heavy use).

simms22 said:
your android os looks normal. seeing that you didnt use the phone much, your screen on percent is lowered. since your screen on percentage is lower, all others will appear higher than you would think they should be. but if your screen was using 50-65% of the battery as it would for normal use, then your other percentages would be lower. anyways, your android os is normal. what i would look for is an app in the background behaving badly, or disable a notification or two if you have many. if you have root, i would install greenify and then greenify a bunch of apps.
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I think the proportions seem right but I've never had 1-2 or more HOUR wakelocks, it just caught my attention.
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jphilippon said:
I think the proportions seem right but I've never had 1-2 or more HOUR wakelocks, it just caught my attention.
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i never look at wakelocks, that is how our device is supposed to work. granted, occasionally an app will create a wakelock that gets stuck, but thats just bad coding on the app by that developer. watching wakelocks will waste more of your time than its worth. take control of your apps instead, dont let them run rampart.

Neither BBS or Wakelock Detector is helpful in diagnosing Android OS battery usage. Most of the time it shows as PowerManagerService.Wakelock in Kernel Wakelocks, and pages from google state that is it a sum of Partial Wakelocks adding to PowerManagerService.Wakelock. But there was one time I had a 15 hour wakelock from PowerManagerService.Wakelock and looking in Partial there wasn't anything really significant, most entries being 20mins or something at the top of the list, 10 minutes on the next, and so on.
Whatever it is, it's particularly bad on 4.3 both on my Nexus 4 and Nexus 7.

So I listened to some music for roughly 20 minutes in the car. Set my phone down to watch TV. Came back 45 minutes later and it dropped ~25%. This is WITH 3.5 hours SOT. android somehow still takes top spot. Help?
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jphilippon said:
So I listened to some music for roughly 20 minutes in the car. Set my phone down to watch TV. Came back 45 minutes later and it dropped ~25%. This is WITH 3.5 hours SOT. android somehow still takes top spot. Help?
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Everything was fine after the 4.4.2 update until a couple of days ago. I noticed a heavy battery drain during the night - approx. 20%. The conclusion I made: Android OS is back. The WiFi was on, but the router was off, so I though it might have something to do with it trying to establish a connection.
This past night I turned the WiFi off and left the 3G on. 10+ hours of wakelock from Android OS and 30% drain. So, what am I missing here?
The worst part is that those f"%^* from Android developers team has disabled any reporting from the running processes in the latest version.

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Everything was fine after the 4.4.2 update until a couple of days ago. I noticed a heavy battery drain during the night - approx. 20%. The conclusion I made: Android OS is back. The WiFi was on, but the router was off, so I though it might have something to do with it trying to establish a connection.
This past night I turned the WiFi off and left the 3G on. 10+ hours of wakelock from Android OS and 30% drain. So, what am I missing here?
The worst part is that those f"%^* from Android developers team has disabled any reporting from the running processes in the latest version.
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You can use the stock google app to find what google app is running during the wakelocks. Just go into Settings -> Apps -> Running tab and see what google process are running. Then download and use "Disable Service" from the playstore to find and disable the suspect google apps.
My phone would stay wakelocked after a call or gmail check all because of gcm_google service. I disable it under Playstore services using Disable Service and my google wakelocks went away. Worth a try.

same problem here

misuse of wake locks can easily lead to energy waste

"Android os" usually is the kernel while "Android system" is, well the system. Try changing kernel, it fixed the issues for me.
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Less than 5 hours on a full charge?!

I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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cowboyaryk said:
I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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Mind posting battery stats?

cowboyaryk said:
I know I'm a heavy phone user, but how are people saying they get 9+ hours of constant use, like watching videos, and I'm getting half that from texting, using Hangouts, and a couple social networking apps? My screen uses between 45-50% of that and the rest is apps, primarily the ones I use most.
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And how much screen time are you showing?
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I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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What launcher were you using? I unplugged at 7-8 am this morning and attached are my stats. Sometimes it drains more than others but overall the battery life is pretty amazing.

cowboyaryk said:
I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.

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Well, for starters wifi is at 0% which means ur constantly using 4G which can suck ur battery dry especially if you're in an area with bad reception.
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My wifi always shows it's connected as a solid blue line, but I've been on LTE all day.
Might be a rogue app running in the background or something? I use the Active Apps widget and randomly end programs from time to time while clearing up the RAM as well. Hopefully it's just a rogue app or bad battery?

cowboyaryk said:
I unplugged from a charger about 330pm, it's now almost 8 with the following stats. This is driving me crazy, I feel like I can't unplug it. So today I get almost 6 hours to almost 10%
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You're definitely not getting what you should. Look at my stats, a lot of wifi but also not as much held awake time on my phone considering what I have as Battery time. Take a look around there's things you can disable like bloatware that may be holding your phone from sleeping. Also see if you can reconfigure that one app, maybe it updates to often. I don't usually have any app drain more then kernel and the android system.
Or its your battery if you've done all that.
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Are you rooted?

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Are you rooted?
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If you are asking me, no.
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I was having that same problem when first got my phone. I'm pretty sure it was the new themer application it, worked fine until I uninstalled it, then my battery constantly needed to be charged. To originally fix it I backed up and factory reset it then it seemed to be working fine but now that I'm rooted I have been using greenify and it works like a dream. It tells you in better detail what's draining your battery and what wakes it up in your background as it tries to sleep. Now I get about 22 hours with pretty regular usage

With 56 minutes on screen time, I should get close to ten hours... you must have an app that is killing your battery or that uses data alot
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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright

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Here is how mine is looking today so far, I would say my Note 3 outlasts my other phones no problem.. biggest offenders I noticed that wrecked mine was Google Settings>Location Reporting turned that off, and when I dont need it turn everything off in Settings>Location Reporting.. when I go out or want to use Google Now I turn it on .. I greenified a lot of the stupid apps like My Magazine or disabled them outright
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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Three things, one are you rooted. Two if not, is the beginning of it while you are sleeping or using it? If using it, what other things have you tweaked If not rooted.
And third but completely unrelated, I see you have a sense clock, if you want a great one that is pretty much a perfect copy of sense, take a look at "sense v2 flip click and weather". I use that and love it
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I can't speak for Neo but I'm rooted, but before then I still had amazing battery life because I disabled most if not all the bloatware.

I've disabled most of the bloat ware, I think. I'm it rooted. I'm just always plugging this thing in
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I do want to root though
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Galaxy S4 Battery Drain Please Help

I bought a S4 manufacturer refurbished new with battery, charged it for like 6 hours as it is new, I've been using it for nearly 5 hours now and it is at 41%, from the very start I've disabled nearly everything apart from WiFi and the Samsung features such as air gestures and stuff and even mobile data (as I have none atm) have been disabled and brightness has been just slightly higher than lowest, how is it possible that the battery is draining so fast???

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I bought a S4 manufacturer refurbished new with battery, charged it for like 6 hours as it is new, I've been using it for nearly 5 hours now and it is at 41%, from the very start I've disabled nearly everything apart from WiFi and the Samsung features such as air gestures and stuff and even mobile data (as I have none atm) have been disabled and brightness has been just slightly higher than lowest, how is it possible that the battery is draining so fast???
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look at your settings and go to the "battery" section, and have a look at whats eating up your battery.
you can use "greenify" from google play to suspend any applications too.

Here look Twitter is nearly highest, I find it highly unbelievable that Twitter has been eating my battery this fast, I've seen S4 users have their screen brightness to the highest watch videos social networks etc for 16 hours and still have juice left

ShadowBlazeSheff said:
Here look Twitter is nearly highest, I find it highly unbelievable that Twitter has been eating my battery this fast, I've seen S4 users have their screen brightness to the highest watch videos social networks etc for 16 hours and still have juice left
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Hi.
U might want to refer in here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2532210
Cheers.

Hello, sorry I don't have anything setup to buy the better battery stats yet

ShadowBlazeSheff said:
Hello, sorry I don't have anything setup to buy the better battery stats yet
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Get the free BBS app from the thread.

I have downloaded it but I'll give reading when battery is at 50%
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ShadowBlazeSheff said:
Hello, sorry I don't have anything setup to buy the better battery stats yet
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I switched off the phone but forgot the battery stats go, but as I remember these are the things running that took most of the charge

You need to look at the partial wake locks in other on bbs

And here is the battery stats from Android
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ShadowBlazeSheff said:
I switched off the phone but forgot the battery stats go, but as I remember these are the things running that took most of the charge
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Oh ffs, oh well I'll do it again tomorrow
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Here are the Android Battery and BBS stats
Edit - I did charge it from like 30% to 65% then it went down again to the percentage you see on screenshots

Direct track is killing your battery. You need to find out what that wake lock is and get rid of it. Google directtrack wakelock

Music also seems to have taken a lot when I didn't even use it a lot
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jd1639 said:
Direct track is killing your battery. You need to find out what that wake lock is and get rid of it. Google directtrack wakelock
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I can't find any way to get rid of it

ShadowBlazeSheff said:
I can't find any way to get rid of it
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What music app do you use?

jd1639 said:
What music app do you use?
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The default music app player not Google Play or Samsung music, on the first day I didn't use any music players but still saw exceptional battery drain

ShadowBlazeSheff said:
The default music app player not Google Play or Samsung music, on the first day I didn't use any music players but still saw exceptional battery drain
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Freeze that app and see if that helps the battery drain

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Freeze that app and see if that helps the battery drain
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How do I freeze it?

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How do I freeze it?
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Go into settings, apps and see if you can disable it