Alright. My mom has a Telus Galaxy S4 (SGH-I1337M) that's 100% free of KNOX crap. Phone was made before July 16th She is on 4.2.2. She wants to upgrade to 4.3. Is there a way to remove the KNOX bootloader update so she has no Knox Counter to worry about and flash via Odin?
wasn't able to find one: I flashed the i337m modem from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542043 in Odin and then upgrade to 4.3 by installing GE rom with a recovery zip using Philz CWM
you don't have to use GE but flashing a custom 4.3 rom will give you the 4.3 features without knox -- you just need the 4.3 modem to avoid data drops and a Canadian compatible modem (GE is knox free and has Canadian suited modem and install instructions)
lgsshedden said:
wasn't able to find one: I flashed the i337m modem from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2542043 in Odin and then upgrade to 4.3 by installing GE rom with a recovery zip using Philz CWM
you don't have to use GE but flashing a custom 4.3 rom will give you the 4.3 features without knox -- you just need the 4.3 modem to avoid data drops and a Canadian compatible modem (GE is knox free and has Canadian suited modem and install instructions)
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Thanks. What I want to do is take stock 4.3 OTA and remove the knox bootloader update and flash via odin. Nothing fancy.
understood: just hasn't been done by anyone yet as I have seen inference that it is none too simple and the relative gain is not worth the pain
GE 4.3 rom
lgsshedden said:
understood: just hasn't been done by anyone yet as I have seen inference that it is none too simple and the relative gain is not worth the pain
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GE 4.3 should be close enough. Anything missing just download it. And the GE 360 camera is cool.
Hey all, I'd like to install this rom, but my phone (S4 international GT-i9505) is KN0X tripped on 4.3. I currently run 4.3 stock. Is it safe to install this rom, and is it possible to downgrade back to 4.3 stock after?
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Hey all, I'd like to install this rom, but my phone (S4 international GT-i9505) is KN0X tripped on 4.3. I currently run 4.3 stock. Is it safe to install this rom, and is it possible to downgrade back to 4.3 stock after?
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Yup you can flash any custom rom via custom recovery and Yes you can still downgrade your phone into 4.3 stock rom but remember not to flash a Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat firmware because flashing 4.4.2 firmware can no longer downgrade to 4.3 stock rom. Flashing any custom rom/root will trigger your knox and If you wanna know more about knox , check this thread Have a nice day.
I have a stock NC1 rom rooted installed, just looking to see if there is a way to downgrade or not!
If not what are some good 4.4.2 Roms that i can install!
If I can do that with stock 4.4.2 lol
Thanks!
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lukesheardown said:
I have a stock NC1 rom rooted installed, just looking to see if there is a way to downgrade or not!
If not what are some good 4.4.2 Roms that i can install!
If I can do that with stock 4.4.2 lol
Thanks!
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Downgrade depends on your bootloader. If you took the carrier update to 4.4.2 then no you can't. If your flashed 4.4.2 then possibly, if flashed download phone info from the play store, it will tell you which bootloader you have. If it's a carrier upgrade then you need to install a customer recovery (trip knox counter - void warrenty) then you can install i337m roms. If you choose that route, Mapleleaf rom is a good place to start, it is mostly stock.
Hello, i am currently at 4.2.2 firmware (I9505XXUBMG4) and i have a EFS backup and a nandroid backup. i wish to upgrade my phone to 4.4 but i not sure because maybe if i do not like the 4.4 i will not be able to downgrade to 4.2.
can i go back to 4.2 from 4.4?? i don't care about the warranty or the knox feature
fdlm82 said:
Hello, i am currently at 4.2.2 firmware (I9505XXUBMG4) and i have a EFS backup and a nandroid backup. i wish to upgrade my phone to 4.4 but i not sure because maybe if i do not like the 4.4 i will not be able to downgrade to 4.2.
can i go back to 4.2 from 4.4?? i don't care about the warranty or the knox feature
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Hi ,
Once you upgrade your bootloader is not possible to go back to 4..2.2 (or 4.3)
You upgrade your bootloader if:
Flash a stock rom 4.3 and higher
you do not upgrade your bootloader if:
root , install custom recovery and flash a custom rom , there are a few good rom based in samsung stock 4.3 and 4.4.2 you can try them see if you like them and if you don't you can always flash stock 4.2.2 and be as you were
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
fdlm82 said:
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
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Thats downgrading. So no it wont work.
Lennyz1988 said:
Thats downgrading. So no it wont work.
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Yes i know is downgrading, that is the main question of this
MAX 404 said:
Hi ,
Once you upgrade your bootloader is not possible to go back to 4..2.2 (or 4.3)
You upgrade your bootloader if:
Flash a stock rom 4.3 and higher
you do not upgrade your bootloader if:
root , install custom recovery and flash a custom rom , there are a few good rom based in samsung stock 4.3 and 4.4.2 you can try them see if you like them and if you don't you can always flash stock 4.2.2 and be as you were
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Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
fdlm82 said:
Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
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You are asking the same question again. It's not possible.
Lennyz1988 said:
You are asking the same question again. It's not possible.
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It has been done to 4.3 in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744061
they have flashed a 4.3 ROM without bootloader over a 4.4 ROM so the result is a 4.3 rom with a 4.4 bootloader
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Ok, so essensialy i can't downgrade the bootloader to 4.2.
but a official 4.2.2 firmware (without knox) will work on a 4.4 bootloader ??? (again i don't care about knox working or not)
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HI ,
Mate if you flash with Odin or OTA (kies) you will change the bootloader , ok? so once you have a 4..4 bootloader installed there is no way to install back a 4,2,2 stock ( official ) firmware , 4.4.2 official firmware includes 4.4.2 bootloader and flashing an older bootloader than the one you have is not possible (yet)
your options are:
4.2.2 bootloader
stay there do nothing
Upgrade to official 4.4 and not be able to downgrade to 4.2.2 official
root , install CWM and install any custom rom you want ( 4.2.2 , 4.3 or 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 ) and if you do not like any of them go back to official 4.2.2
Once you upgrade to official 4.4.2 there is no way to go back to official 4.2.2 , the only way to go back to 4.2.2 would be with a custom rom
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HI ,
Mate if you flash with Odin or OTA (kies) you will change the bootloader , ok? so once you have a 4..4 bootloader installed there is no way to install back a 4,2,2 stock ( official ) firmware , 4.4.2 official firmware includes 4.4.2 bootloader and flashing an older bootloader than the one you have is not possible (yet)
your options are:
4.2.2 bootloader
stay there do nothing
Upgrade to official 4.4 and not be able to downgrade to 4.2.2 official
root , install CWM and install any custom rom you want ( 4.2.2 , 4.3 or 4.4.2 and 4.4.4 ) and if you do not like any of them go back to official 4.2.2
Once you upgrade to official 4.4.2 there is no way to go back to official 4.2.2 , the only way to go back to 4.2.2 would be with a custom rom
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If i understood right, you are saying that can be done if i flash a custom rom as intermediate step between official 4.4 and official 4.2 ??
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If i understood right, you are saying that can be done if i flash a custom rom as intermediate step between official 4.4 and official 4.2 ??
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No . I did not say that
Once you are in an official 4.4.2 firmware , the only way to use a 4.2.2 rom would be by flashing an un official 4.2.2 custom rom
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No . I did not say that
Once you are in an official 4.4.2 firmware , the only way to use a 4.2.2 rom would be by flashing an un official 4.2.2 custom rom
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Ok, thanks for the info.
in the following this thread they have installed a 4.3 rom over a 4.4 bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744061
maybe someone find a similar way to install a 4.2....
fdlm82 said:
Ok, thanks for the info.
in the following this thread they have installed a 4.3 rom over a 4.4 bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2744061
maybe someone find a similar way to install a 4.2....
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Ok mate ,
Good luck .
I'm currently running on 4.2.2 Jelly Bean on my ATT Galaxy S4(SGH-i337). I want to upgrade to the latest Kitkat 4.4.2 Stock Update. My ATT S4 is rooted and unlocked to work in India.
Can someone tell me:-
- If I need custom recovery for this ?
-If Yes/ No how do I go about it ?
-Will I lose root & and Carrier unlock after update ?
- Link to the Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat OTA
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I'm currently running on 4.2.2 Jelly Bean on my ATT Galaxy S4(SGH-i337). I want to upgrade to the latest Kitkat 4.4.2 Stock Update. My ATT S4 is rooted and unlocked to work in India.
Can someone tell me:-
- If I need custom recovery for this ?
-If Yes/ No how do I go about it ?
-Will I lose root & and Carrier unlock after update ?
- Link to the Stock 4.4.2 Kitkat OTA
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If you update, depending on which firmware you are on now, you will lose your ability to boot custom roms. If you have the MDL firmware, I suggest keeping it as you can use LOKI to bypass the locked bootloader and boot custom roms and recoveries. Now to answer your questions.
You can use a custom recovery to update to 4.4.2 if a .zip file for the update is available. You can also use ODIN to flash the update. You will lose root unless you use a pre-rooted update file. The stock 4.4.2 update is in the General forums I believe.