Hi all, I've just bought a 32gb N10 after reading all about it here. It came with 4.2.2, the first thing I did was update it to 4.4.2.
Netflix, iPlayer and YouTube/vimeo all have choppy playback, especially noticeable when the camera pans around a scene. I've read that 4.4 can cause video issues, and never tried 4.2.2 or 4.3.
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Any workarounds? I've already tried clearing app cache and disk cache (via recovery)
sheyac said:
Hi all, I've just bought a 32gb N10 after reading all about it here. It came with 4.2.2, the first thing I did was update it to 4.4.2.
Netflix, iPlayer and YouTube/vimeo all have choppy playback, especially noticeable when the camera pans around a scene. I've read that 4.4 can cause video issues, and never tried 4.2.2 or 4.3.
Anyone experiencing the same thing? Any workarounds? I've already tried clearing app cache and disk cache (via recovery)
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I watch video from the sources you mention except iPlayer and resolved any playback shutter I've experienced. I'm using rooted stock 4.4.2 and XPosed framework modules. For me the culprit turned out to be an often running background and app "FolderSync". Once I reduced the frequency of the sync the stuttering disappeared.
Here are some suggestions on figuring out the issues.
- at least temporarily disable background activity (eg. Onandroid backups definitely causes video stutter)
- first eliminate the network by copying a HD quality video onto the N10 and play it back from internal storage. If it shutters then get a player that supports ARM7 hardware decoding (eg. MX Player)
- if the test above proves that your N10 can handle the videos then you will need to focus on weak links in your network connection
For high bit rate videos (eg. 1080p my files), Wifi can be overwhelmed so I often use a USB Ethernet adapter.
With MX Player and it's ARM7 add-on I can play any video in my collection. With the the Ethernet adapter I can play Netflix's SuperHD quality while with WiFi lower quality steaming do occur. The. Nexus 10 is a very capable video player.
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3DSammy said:
I watch video from the sources you mention except iPlayer and resolved any playback shutter I've experienced. I'm using rooted stock 4.4.2 and XPosed framework modules. For me the culprit turned out to be an often running background and app "FolderSync". Once I reduced the frequency of the sync the stuttering disappeared.
Here are some suggestions on figuring out the issues.
- at least temporarily disable background activity (eg. Onandroid backups definitely causes video stutter)
- first eliminate the network by copying a HD quality video onto the N10 and play it back from internal storage. If it shutters then get a player that supports ARM7 hardware decoding (eg. MX Player)
- if the test above proves that your N10 can handle the videos then you will need to focus on weak links in your network connection
For high bit rate videos (eg. 1080p my files), Wifi can be overwhelmed so I often use a USB Ethernet adapter.
With MX Player and it's ARM7 add-on I can play any video in my collection. With the the Ethernet adapter I can play Netflix's SuperHD quality while with WiFi lower quality steaming do occur. The. Nexus 10 is a very capable video player.
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Thanks for your input. I tried MX player with ARM HW decoder and it works! But for netflix etc it's all software. Did it used to be smooth on 4.3?
I disabled backups in the settings, does rooting let you disable any other backup stuff?
Do a stock flash. Do not upgrade from an earlier version.
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sheyac said:
Thanks for your input. I tried MX player with ARM HW decoder and it works! But for netflix etc it's all software. Did it used to be smooth on 4.3?
I disabled backups in the settings, does rooting let you disable any other backup stuff?
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I didn't subscribe to Netflix until after I was using 4.4.2 and outside of occasional buffering I have not experienced video stuttering except for the background task issues I've described and fixed.
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sheyac said:
Thanks for your input. I tried MX player with ARM HW decoder and it works! But for netflix etc it's all software. Did it used to be smooth on 4.3?
I disabled backups in the settings, does rooting let you disable any other backup stuff?
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Hi,
I only had a problem with playing videos when my memory was cluttered like other people already stated. Make sure there's no apps running in background! I can't tell about Netflix though, I don't use it hehe, but today my memory was being used a lot by background apps and when I tried to watch a video in MX it skipped many frames and lagged a lot, after killing all background apps the video ran without issues .
~Lord
So I used wugfresh to flash the factory image 4.4.2 and iPlayer seems better but Netflix still seems a bit choppy (especially when it's streaming in super HD).
I'm disappointed as I mainly bought this to watch Netflix and iPlayer. Are there any kernels or ROMs that provide a better video experience? Will flash 4.3 tomorrow and see how that performs.
When you flash stock and then first setup make sure you do NOT tick to restore from backup. It restores slowness.
I use my N10 for iPlayer every day and works fine but I prefer to use get-iPlayer on a Linux or Windows device to download and then watch on Android it is more consistent experience plus you get HD and I play using MX player just fine.
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I have installed 4.3 and netflix and iPlayer are now smoother (still a bit choppy but much better). I wonder if this is to do with the RAM allocation between 4.3 and 4.4. Hope 4.5 is better at videos than 4.3 and would be nice to get ART on it too.
sheyac said:
I have installed 4.3 and netflix and iPlayer are now smoother (still a bit choppy but much better). I wonder if this is to do with the RAM allocation between 4.3 and 4.4. Hope 4.5 is better at videos than 4.3 and would be nice to get ART on it too.
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The stuttering can vary by the service provider. Be careful on forming conclusions when you're dealing with remote Internet-based services. I find services like Hulu and iplayer (I don't use NetFlix) varies by the day. If were dumb enough to think that was due to the Android version I could easily make false conclusions. I have a Nexus 10, 7, 4 and 3 PCs and from that try to eliminate the variable service aspect from the Android version aspect.
Do look into get_iplayer, it is very good and in many ways superior to the iplayer App. What you can then do is accumulate media and then use an OTG USB storage device which then makes your need for large Android devices or ones with SD slots much less important.
http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html
My OTG storage which is tiny and I can plug it into the get_iplayer download server if I want a mass transfer faster than Wifi
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00GMG2GEO/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Yes of course I have made sure that remote connections aren't the reason for choppyness. I compared using the same 50 Mbps connection using my laptop (1080p), an iPad 4, my nexus 10 and my Galaxy S4, at the same time of day sequentially. The nexus came out the choppiest (dropped frames) by far.Even on media downloaded then played back in the gallery app.
It just seems strange that google would release a (flagship) device with an inability to smoothly play 1080p video out of the box.
sheyac said:
Yes of course I have made sure that remote connections aren't the reason for choppyness. I compared using the same 50 Mbps connection using my laptop (1080p), an iPad 4, my nexus 10 and my Galaxy S4, at the same time of day sequentially. The nexus came out the choppiest (dropped frames) by far.Even on media downloaded then played back in the gallery app.
It just seems strange that google would release a (flagship) device with an inability to smoothly play 1080p video out of the box.
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I don't have any 1080p media mine are 720p. Mine play fine. get_iplayer HD produces 1280x720 H264 25fps 2.3Mbit 1GB/hour files.
Did you literally take stock (without restoring from backup) install MX Player enable it to h/w+ and get choppiness?
I find the video performance of my N10 stunning, it is the fastest and clearest of all my devices. I use it for Hulu+ often at its streamed HD when offered, and usually off local media or streaming off NAS. To make my N10 choppy video I have to be doing typically 2 other things in the background at the same time, I think due to 1GB memory not really being enough.
There are N10 weaknesses, on mine if I load too many apps particularly more than a few Chrome tabs, it does a reboot, so I tend to use mine for big-screen media watching and I got a N7 and N4 alongside which allows more multitasking by multi devices, then my N10 is very stable and performing. For this reason I never would pay $500 for a N10 but got mine for $278 which I think given its stability and performance issues is fairer priced. My N4 which has 24% number of pixels of N10 and double the memory is far far more stable but not really a sit back and enjoy media device.
With MX player and HW decoding it was smooth - however I primarily got my N10 to stream Netflix and iPlayer, neither of which can you enable HW decoding. I will look into get_iplayer but my laptop is Windows for a start so it's a pain in the backside to install Ubuntu etc to download. It just seems like it's a workaround for a deficiency that shouldn't have existed in the first place!
Yesterday I watched a whole movie in Super HD on the N10 from Netflix on 4.3 and it was a lot lot smoother than 4.4.2. I'm not sure why it would be so different, as the OS was generally snappier in 4.4. The picture quality was great, albeit the colours were a bit washed out but i can live with that!
sheyac said:
... however I primarily got my N10 to stream Netflix and iPlayer, neither of which can you enable HW decoding....
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I use a playstore YouTube alternative app called Viral and it has a HW acceleration setting. I'm not sure if it would actually make a difference for you but Viral could always be uninstalled.
See: Settings->Player controls->Hardware acceleration->allow get for video player. It's a check box.
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sheyac said:
I will look into get_iplayer but my laptop is Windows for a start so it's a pain in the backside to install Ubuntu etc to download.
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RTFM http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer/html/get_iplayer.html
Therefore, we have created a Windows installer for get_iplayer which will attempt to download and install the various requirements. This can be obtained from:
http://www.infradead.org/get_iplayer_win/get_iplayer_setup_latest.exe
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If I'm traveling very light but I need a Windoze machine I have an ancient Netbook which sucks are performance but it runs the get_iplayer and I USB cable to copy over. If I'm traveling light and don't need a Windoze machine I'll have accumulated mp4 to the limit of the internal N10 storage then spill over into the ridiculously cheap OTG USB storage.
Downloading ahead and then playing local content removes a host of issues. It isn't a workaround but an alternative with advantages. Issues with streaming are that the BBC servers / bandwidth can be choppy themselves sometimes plus the Nexus 10 screen is much better than the highest definition content that the App delivers, if you download it goes up in quality (if you set modes=best) and really makes the N10 better to view. So it's relevant to this thread.
What I do is as get_iplayer exists is I accumulate the mp4 and when online with good Wifi 'net access exhaust all the Hulu etc online-only content and then move to watch the BBC stuff. Plenty of situations like hotels crap Wifi service come to mind.
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I'm still entertaining picking this up instead of the Asus Transformer but I saw two things recently on a video that discouraged me.
1) Local HD Video
I've heard MoboPlayer can tackle most formats so that helps a bit, but what is HD playback like on the device? Does it stutter? Does it have a hard time playing anything 720P or perhaps just 1080P.
For some reason, the lady had a really hard time playing 1080P on this thing.
2) Clear.Fi
I haven't seen a review that actually covered this feature. This is so important to me. I sold my iPad because I wasn't happy with it. I loved Cydia and having XBMC on it though because I could pretty much watch anything.
I was hoping Clear.Fi was going to make me forget about XBMC but I haven't seen any videos on Youtube or heard people discuss Clear.Fi too well.
What's your experience been like? Do you have problems streaming specific types of files? Does it convert on the fly or does it only stream specific file types?
I'm still considering buying the A500, one of the points I had noticed was a statement from Acer that 1080p playback on the device will be available via a future update. If I recall it's due June/July
Thanks. I appreciate the heads up.
to OP.....Yes no one has touched base on the clear.fi features but from my experience just mp4 files.......and it streams over your wifi network so there isn't any converting on the fly since it only plays mp4's but it will see avi's and wmv's but will not play it ....it says cannot play format unknown hopefully when rom developement progress may some how we would be able to watch other formats like video codec installs but it kinda sucks because all my vids need to be converted to work which is sad lol
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to OP.....Yes no one has touched base on the clear.fi features but from my experience just mp4 files.......and it streams over your wifi network so there isn't any converting on the fly since it only plays mp4's but it will see avi's and wmv's but will not play it ....it says cannot play format unknown hopefully when rom developement progress may some how we would be able to watch other formats like video codec installs but it kinda sucks because all my vids need to be converted to work which is sad lol
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Same here, and I am NOT coverting 3tb's of TV shows and movies. Not gonna happen.
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Have you guys tried streaming with the help of a File Explorer and a video player like MoboPlayer.
I remember I was able to use the File Explorer on the Gtab to find videos on the network and then watch them with my choice of app.
Clear.fi is just a transport as far as I know. In essence, it's an app like upnp that sees shared compatible media across your network. It then allows you to use a media player on the device to view the file.
So for example, if you have Windows 7, media sharing enabled and put videos into your Windows 7 Video library, music in your Music library and Photos in your Pictures library, clear.fi will detect it all over your wifi network.
Because of this, I don't think it has any hard limits as far as what clear.fi will play as it depends 100% on what your tablet hardware and software will play. For now, that's just mp4s using a certain profile when it comes to videos. Some mkvs will play too as those are just wrappers. I've also seen a thread where someone has claimed to play some realplayer files I think. I myself have played mp4s that are smooth as silk in both 480 and 720p and I have had others that were extremely jerky. This has to do with profiles which I don't have the details on. I can tell you what I THINK it means, which is that mp4s come in several "parts" and that the newest one which compresses the most data is referred to as h264 which the device can't seem to play well at all. I converted a 720p movie and left everything in tact except for specifying the resolution needing to be up to 1280x800 and for it to be in MP4 format and it played flawlessly. I use a program called Freemake. I haven't attempted to convert any 1080p.
I have an intel quad core 6600 with 8GB of RAM and that took 40m so there's no way I'm converting my entire library however it's no problem converting a few movies and maybe a season or 2 of TV in prep to hit a roadtrip or do some sort of travel. I also have an Amazon Prime and Crunchyroll membership so I don't even really need to do any of this.
This isn't a brand limitation afaik, it is due to Honeycomb and Tegra 2. We know Tegra 2's hardware can support a myriad of formats, but we don't know if Nvidia has released a full Honeycomb dev kit yet and since Honeycomb isn't open like Froyo and GB, I'm not sure if it will be indicated on Nvidias site when it is released - for all we know it's already in the various tablet manuf. hands so we just have to be patient. So far the promises for updates in June by both Acer and Asus have me hoping that the 1080p upgrade is a sign of more supported formats and some fixes as well.
Yeah I've been having major problems getting HD files to play at all- converted 480p movie to mp4 had no problems, but can't get the same converter app to spit out a 720p to mp4 file except in mkv container format. Keeps insisting on 4:3 ratio on mp4 files. Once I get it figured out (if I do lol) I'll post the app & settings
Every Tegra2 device has problems with 1080p, 720p and anything encoded with h264 with main profile and high profile (so with almost any HD video out there). So it's a problem on A500 but also on Xoom, Trasnformer and other tablets too unfortunately.
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Every Tegra2 device has problems with 1080p, 720p and anything encoded with h264 with main profile and high profile (so with almost any HD video out there). So it's a problem on A500 but also on Xoom, Trasnformer and other tablets too unfortunately.
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Not every Tegra 2 device, every Tegra 2 device with Honeycomb.
Tegra 2 has been out since last year and a number of the ones shipped with Android 2.2 don't have an issue playing HD video in any format. For example, this is what the GTablet by Viewsonic supported:
S1080p H.264/H.263/ VC-1/MPEG-2/4/WMV9/DiVX 4/5 Video Decode
1080p H.264/MPEG-4 Video Encode
Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
Mind you, I don't know if the native resolution has anything to do with it as that has a 1024x600 resolution, I do know that it played 95% more files than my Iconia does.
Do you reckon the stuttering will be fixed with an update, and when do they usually come out?
I have been doing this to help stream content and it works like a charm.
1. Download UPNPlay from the market
2. Download Rock player from their web site (the one optimized for the tegra 2)
UPNPlay detects your server and will allow you to browse your contents and will play the video with Rock player. since Rock player supports a slew of codecs you should never have a problem playing anything. I even threw a .OGG file at it and the tablet played it with no problem. Also note that the quality (lag) of streaming HD content depends primarily on your home network.
The Clear.fi app sucks...
Enjoy streaming your content.
b1urr said:
I have been doing this to help stream content and it works like a charm.
1. Download UPNPlay from the market
2. Download Rock player from their web site (the one optimized for the tegra 2)
UPNPlay detects your server and will allow you to browse your contents and will play the video with Rock player. since Rock player supports a slew of codecs you should never have a problem playing anything. I even threw a .OGG file at it and the tablet played it with no problem. Also note that the quality (lag) of streaming HD content depends primarily on your home network.
The Clear.fi app sucks...
Enjoy streaming your content.
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Thanks man. You saved me $5. I was about to buy PLEX because that would take care of most format issues but I'll try this first. Appreciate it!!!
* Just tried it. Worked like a charm. I enjoy being able to pick from all the video players I've got installed but everything on my server is playing easily! Thanks again.
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I have been doing this to help stream content and it works like a charm.
1. Download UPNPlay from the market
2. Download Rock player from their web site (the one optimized for the tegra 2)
UPNPlay detects your server and will allow you to browse your contents and will play the video with Rock player. since Rock player supports a slew of codecs you should never have a problem playing anything. I even threw a .OGG file at it and the tablet played it with no problem. Also note that the quality (lag) of streaming HD content depends primarily on your home network.
The Clear.fi app sucks...
Enjoy streaming your content.
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You still cant play mkv h.264 right? From what I have read on xoom and gtab forum its a hardware issue and not software.
shep211 said:
You still cant play mkv h.264 right? From what I have read on xoom and gtab forum its a hardware issue and not software.
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Yeah I play mkv with no problem using this method. The problem is with honeycomb not with the hardware. Try it out and let me know if it works. Its been working for me.
I would agree on clear.fi sucking. I've been using Skifta with the standard WMP12 media sharing in W7 and it works great.
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Yeah I play mkv with no problem using this method. The problem is with honeycomb not with the hardware. Try it out and let me know if it works. Its been working for me.
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Its a hardware issue and every tegra 2 device has this issue. You source is not hd 720p if you can play it. Tegra 2 can only play substandard H.264 baseline profile videos and its still choppy. Most people are using MPEG4 to get reliable play back with tegra 2. Read any of the xoom & Toshiba tab forums.
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Its a hardware issue and every tegra 2 device has this issue. You source is not hd 720p if you can play it. Tegra 2 can only play substandard H.264 baseline profile videos and its still choppy. Most people are using MPEG4 to get reliable play back with tegra 2. Read any of the xoom & Toshiba tab forums.
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I actually went to edit the post about it not being a hardware issue as soon as I posted it but couldn't because I had to wait due to me being new to the forum. I didn't have the proper information to make such a claim... Either way I have not ran across a video that I wanted to watch that I couldn't. I have been mostly watching anime on it (hi rez MKV) but I will try out an hd movie when I get home and report back.
so is it a hardware or software is that the device can't play back movies smoothly and can it be fixed?
ok so I checked out a few movies yesterday. All movies were in HD. 50% played fine while the other 50% played but with so really bad hiccups. The files I had less issues with were MKV that were displayed at 720 and were a smaller file size (probably not true 720P). 1080 video murdered the tablet lol. I have had 0 problem playing HD anime but again they are smaller file sizes. This method will play all non hd video without a hitch. Hopefully this issue is fixed shortly in the next update but that is me just being hopeful.
Hi all,
I've had my new Thrive for about a week, and have had no success in getting imported movie files to play without being slightly jerky, especially during scenes with some panning. I realize the Tegra chipset has to use baseline encoding, so I've used Handbrake with all the advanced settings off for H.264 / 720p with no luck. I tried decreasing quality / bitrate, even took a shot at an H.263 encode, same issue. Sadly enough, I've even downsized the video to 480p, and the issue is mostly gone, but it's stil there if you're looking for it. Having about given up with encoding, I tried some HD YouTube movie trailers and have noticed the same studdering / jerkyness when it plays back scenes with some panning.
I believe I have all the updates, it's the first thing I checked for when I got online.
Some posts that I have run across mention trying to disable the video enhancement capability, which I've done, but no change.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. (???)
Thanks for any input!
Yes I have the same problem. Even videos I take with the camera on it does the same thing. Every video regardless of quality or format jitters and plays very weird and not smooth.
CrisisDog said:
Hi all,
I've had my new Thrive for about a week, and have had no success in getting imported movie files to play without being slightly jerky, especially during scenes with some panning. I realize the Tegra chipset has to use baseline encoding, so I've used Handbrake with all the advanced settings off for H.264 / 720p with no luck. I tried decreasing quality / bitrate, even took a shot at an H.263 encode, same issue. Sadly enough, I've even downsized the video to 480p, and the issue is mostly gone, but it's stil there if you're looking for it. Having about given up with encoding, I tried some HD YouTube movie trailers and have noticed the same studdering / jerkyness when it plays back scenes with some panning.
I believe I have all the updates, it's the first thing I checked for when I got online.
Some posts that I have run across mention trying to disable the video enhancement capability, which I've done, but no change.
Just wondering if anyone else has seen this issue. (???)
Thanks for any input!
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I watch alot of videos on my Thrive and can say I encountered this once when I first got it when watching YouTube videos while mirroring on an led tv. However then I updated my Thrive and it went away and I never saw the problem again. So perhaps check is your updated or restart your Thrive?
I watch my videos from the SD card and am using a class 10 so perhaps if your watching movies from a lower class SD card you should transfer them to the onboard storage? I also stream anime from animehere.com and do not have any problems there either.
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I'm an idiot, I didnt see that you think you have all the updates, this is baffeling.
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Yeah I also get that. The movie plays fine & the audio is in sync just when the camera starts to pan it seems like the screen is jerking or stuttering ever so slightly. I've tried AVS, Handbreak, DVD Catalyst & Xilisoft. Multiple times with multiple movies & profiles. Seems like this Tegra 2 might have been a bad choice for processors. The same 720p movies play just fine on my Evo 3D. Hopefully Nvidia comes out with a update that fixes this as I have read that all of the tablets with the Tegra in it suffer from the same problem. A huge FAIL on Nvidia's part IMO. Whats the sense of having a tablet with a 720p screen but you can't watch movies smoothly.
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Yo, I'm not sure whether 720p works completely fine though but for any other res under that either VPlayer or Mobo seem to be able to play them relatively well.
Over the last month I've experimented with the Thrive and an Asus Transformer. Both have had the same jerky playback issues with my encoded videos, with the built in Honeycomb player. A resolution I've found for playing back my MP4 files is Dice Player, it seems to have gotten rid of the stuttering issue on both devices. YouTube is still a mixed bag, most low quality videos play fine, but the HD stuff will still have issues from time to time. I read somewhere that Dice Player has it's own system / codec files that bypass the built in files provided by Nvidia for the default Honeycomb player, I'm guessing that may be the issue...
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Over the last month I've experimented with the Thrive and an Asus Transformer. Both have had the same jerky playback issues with my encoded videos, with the built in Honeycomb player. A resolution I've found for playing back my MP4 files is Dice Player, it seems to have gotten rid of the stuttering issue on both devices. YouTube is still a mixed bag, most low quality videos play fine, but the HD stuff will still have issues from time to time. I read somewhere that Dice Player has it's own system / codec files that bypass the built in files provided by Nvidia for the default Honeycomb player, I'm guessing that may be the issue...
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Have you tried without the Video Enhancement thing? Seems that turning it off helps quite a bit.
Hello. What is the best combination for playing hd videos wihtout lag? Which app works the best and which rom-kernel?
I have rooted nexus 10 and i have stock kernel-rom. However the hd videos lag a little.(refering to 720p)
I have tried mx player and bsplayer with our cpu addon.
I just use regular bsplayer. Never had an issue and I was just watching HD stuff this weekend. I am on RasSaber ROM, but I never had issue on AOKP PUB, AOKP, or CM10.1 stuff either.
I would bet it is more about how the player is set up, whether using CPU or GPU, and how easily the clock speed for whatever the player is using ramps up.
More or less. Most of these ROMs have the appropriate CPU/GPU drivers already, so your main concern should be making sure that your player is using H/W decoding...and that you've encoded your file properly too.
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I just use regular bsplayer. Never had an issue and I was just watching HD stuff this weekend. I am on RasSaber ROM, ....
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Where do you download RasSaber? I can only find rasbeanjelly, etc. Is there a thread?
I do not have a link, I am not sure if it is available anymore or not. I am running a build from may 12th, and the latest build I have is from may 28th. You could ask sparksco or Rascarlo if they can give you a link to one of the builds.
Using hardware the video lags more. I tried an mkv file. Can i change any other settings in the programs to make it smoother?
Maybe i will flash another kernel, but i want 1 week to try the stock kernel in order to be able to tell the differences..
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Using hardware the video lags more. I tried an mkv file. Can i change any other settings in the programs to make it smoother?
Maybe i will flash another kernel, but i want 1 week to try the stock kernel in order to be able to tell the differences..
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Then your player is (probably) badly built. There are really no circumstances under which a S/W decoder should be able to beat a H/W one. I personally don't have issues using MPlayer or stock.
Dice and MX Player. Dice can pla some videos on H/W that MX can't.
I used a few kernels and roms and never had issues with mxplayer. The thing is you have to turn on in options h/w+ (so u have 3 ways to play your video h/w, h/w+ and s/w), then turn it once in top right corner while playing movie. I mostly run mkv 720p files.
Yes i am using hw+ in mx player.. I also use bs pleyer with the neon cpu plugin. I will try another movie and dice player and report.. Thanks.
Edit: i tried dice player and works flawlessly with hw! Also i tried again mx and seems to be working better...
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Hello. What is the best combination for playing hd videos wihtout lag? Which app works the best and which rom-kernel?
I have rooted nexus 10 and i have stock kernel-rom. However the hd videos lag a little.(refering to 720p)
I have tried mx player and bsplayer with our cpu addon.
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I use MX Player without hw+ enabled on stock, unrooted Android 4.2.2, haven't noticed lag, and I play 1080p trailers all the time. If you really want to stress it, here's a 1440p trailer you can try out (third link, which they incorrectly label as 2560p). That video drops frames like crazy if I don't use hardware decoding, but plays fine with it. Better than my HOX+, which just plays the audio and drops the video altogether.
I wanted to find a video that would actually use the full resolution of my Nexus 10 and that's the only one I found that comes close. :laugh:
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I use MX Player without hw+ enabled on stock, unrooted Android 4.2.2, haven't noticed lag, and I play 1080p trailers all the time. If you really want to stress it, here's a 1440p trailer you can try out (third link, which they incorrectly label as 2560p). That video drops frames like crazy if I don't use hardware decoding, but plays fine with it. Better than my HOX+, which just plays the audio and drops the video altogether.
I wanted to find a video that would actually use the full resolution of my Nexus 10 and that's the only one I found that comes close. :laugh:
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I tried it and it works great with mx player.. I think mp4 are read better from tablets...
MX Player has always done me proud...
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*edit for those of you joining late* The issue is getting a netflix HD stream to the internal display. Currently we get SD streams unless we use external displays.
After the latest OTA update we were supposed to gain access to 1080p Netflix streaming right? Well, how exactly do we get that? I've been monitoring bandwidth and my TN7 while streaming still only uses about 1mbit/s which is definitely not a 1080p stream, but is also indicative of the tablet not even trying higher quality streams. I'm using the stock Netflix app, along with openvpn connect (the other end of the VPN is a gigabit box in the US and is definitely capable of that speed reliably), my local connection is 70mbit down reliably and my wifi AP is an Asus RT-N66U a few feet away.
I've gone and cleared the Netflix app's data but that doesn't seem to have fixed it, any thoughts on what else I can try?
CampGareth said:
After the latest OTA update we were supposed to gain access to 1080p Netflix streaming right? Well, how exactly do we get that? I've been monitoring bandwidth and my TN7 while streaming still only uses about 1mbit/s which is definitely not a 1080p stream, but is also indicative of the tablet not even trying higher quality streams. I'm using the stock Netflix app, along with openvpn connect (the other end of the VPN is a gigabit box in the US and is definitely capable of that speed reliably), my local connection is 70mbit down reliably and my wifi AP is an Asus RT-N66U a few feet away.
I've gone and cleared the Netflix app's data but that doesn't seem to have fixed it, any thoughts on what else I can try?
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1080p output is only for when you have it outputing from hdmi to your tv, the tablet is only 720 so it makes sense it wouldn't try to download a bigger stream then needed
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ckavvouras said:
1080p output is only for when you have it outputing from hdmi to your tv, the tablet is only 720 so it makes sense it wouldn't try to download a bigger stream then needed
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While that's true, there's a heckuva difference between the SD streams and any HD stream. As far as I can tell the tablet tops out at what would be low quality SD on a desktop, even on the built in screen it's possible to see more detail than we're getting. (Note identified streams are mobile, low quality SD, high quality SD, and HD).
Anyway, any thoughts on getting a HD stream to the internal display?
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While that's true, there's a heckuva difference between the SD streams and any HD stream. As far as I can tell the tablet tops out at what would be low quality SD on a desktop, even on the built in screen it's possible to see more detail than we're getting. (Note identified streams are mobile, low quality SD, high quality SD, and HD).
Anyway, any thoughts on getting a HD stream to the internal display?
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I'm fairly certain that I'm getting 720 on my tablet, the image is clean and detailed, maybe your problem is with your router or your internet connection. I tried to capture it but for some reason it keeps telling me sd card is in use.
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ckavvouras said:
I'm fairly certain that I'm getting 720 on my tablet, the image is clean and detailed, maybe your problem is with your router or your internet connection. I tried to capture it but for some reason it keeps telling me sd card is in use.
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Mmhmm, I've gone ahead and done some bandwidth monitoring, see the screenshots attached. While watching the avengers with HD streams turned on average usage is 4-6mbps, with SD only it's about 3-4mbps, with the tablet in use and left to stream for a few minutes it's more like 1-2mbps. The desktop I'm using is wired, the tablet is connected to the same switch/AP the desktop is using (asus rt-n66u, 3 feet away through a table).
The CPU load is probably worth testing since the desktop has far more power for openvpn and such, 2.6 or so staring at the netflix home screen, 3.5-4 with a stream going, given the number of cores that's still a little lower than full load.
So, yeah, still not sure what the cause is, doesn't seem to be a problem anywhere...
http://imgur.com/a/FfN3C#0 *edit* I trust vnstat running on the VPN endpoint itself far more than I trust pfsense, so much stuff could be interfering there
Well how much bandwidth your using on pc vs tablet won't tell you much imo, both use different types of compression to stream that why you might be having varying results. I personally know that I'm at least getting 720p in my tablet, maybe there is a way to force it to stream at a higher resolution but I don't know of it.
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The stock youtube app displays no items only a empty menu, so I have to download the latest ome from google play. My mojo is rooted.
However, the maximum quality of any video is only 720p, even if my mojo is set to 4k output to a 4k tv. Some of the videos I knew for a fact were 4k since I watched them on my shield tv.
I then thought this was the fault of stock rom, so I went all the way to flash the remix os 2 rom as well. But I could still only got 720p.
What is wrong with my unit? I thought madcatz mentioned 4k youtube.
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The stock youtube app displays no items only a empty menu, so I have to download the latest ome from google play. My mojo is rooted.
However, the maximum quality of any video is only 720p, even if my mojo is set to 4k output to a 4k tv. Some of the videos I knew for a fact were 4k since I watched them on my shield tv.
I then thought this was the fault of stock rom, so I went all the way to flash the remix os 2 rom as well. But I could still only got 720p.
What is wrong with my unit? I thought madcatz mentioned 4k youtube.
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My guess it that it's YouTube, not MOJO. They will tailor their files to the target.
minmao said:
The stock youtube app displays no items only a empty menu, so I have to download the latest ome from google play. My mojo is rooted.
However, the maximum quality of any video is only 720p, even if my mojo is set to 4k output to a 4k tv. Some of the videos I knew for a fact were 4k since I watched them on my shield tv.
I then thought this was the fault of stock rom, so I went all the way to flash the remix os 2 rom as well. But I could still only got 720p.
What is wrong with my unit? I thought madcatz mentioned 4k youtube.
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I wonder if using the YouTube plugin from within Kodi might work with higher resolutions...
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Already tried Kodi, and 720p only.
Using firefox and keep it as desktop mode, I could get 4k but very unstable, and slow like a slideshow.
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Already tried Kodi, and 720p only.
Using firefox and keep it as desktop mode, I could get 4k but very unstable, and slow like a slideshow.
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Are you sure your internet connection is up to 4K? If so, try another (faster) browser. Firefox on Android is monster heavy. Even Dolphin might be too much, maybe Boat?
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Are you sure your internet connection is up to 4K? If so, try another (faster) browser. Firefox on Android is monster heavy. Even Dolphin might be too much, maybe Boat?
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kevinthefixer has a good point. I've been able to watch typically laggy school lectures in Adobe connect using Puffin browser. Using one of these lighter browsers may do the trick for you (worth a try anyways).
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Mine only 720 too and on Hudl 2 is 1080
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Are you sure your internet connection is up to 4K? If so, try another (faster) browser. Firefox on Android is monster heavy. Even Dolphin might be too much, maybe Boat?
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I followed your suggestion and tried a few others browsers. However, it seems only Firefox and Chrome will get 1080p and 2160p from youtube's desktop sites - Firefox is very slow for 4k while chrome is giving me black screen no matter what resolution was chose.
For the other browsers, including Boat, the highest resolution is only 720 in desktop site.
At this stage, and after trying to play a 4K clip locally, I gave up. 4k on the mojo simply is not practical. I go back to my shield TV and the mojo will go the to TV in the basement.
720p is probably a pre-set from google itself. 1080p on mobile wouldn't even make sense for most users. google still allows to go to Desktop versions of its websites to stream better qualities.
Playing 4k on browser can be more difficult than localy in general. specially when playing anything else than AVC.
Mojo is VERY WELL capable of 4k locally. Im watching such contend nearly every time i start this little beast.
But it depends on the file itself. MP4 3840x2160 with AVC is a piece of cake, even beyond UHD its capable.
VP9 4k will not run fine at all. 1080p is fine but higher is tough.
Even HEVC at 1080p and a bit above is possible with Mojo.
Im using KODI btw.
The issue i have with Kodi and YT is a bit different. Sometimes the Plug-in, by that KODI itslef, stops and freezes the System. Same problem since day one on Mojo.
Conveniently, I've found a solution for you guys while solving a problem of my own with the YouTube app. That problem being the fact that I hate using my mouse to navigate. So upon finding out that there is a "lean back friendly" (ie: you can use the arrow keys to navigate) version of the YouTube app specific to Android TV, I installed it, it's much nicer to use than the mobile YouTube app for starters. And lastly but most importantly to you guys: you can enable 1080p.
You won't find it on the Play Store, at least I wasn't able to. I went to APK Mirror and got the latest version which I believe was from Dec 2015. I hope this helps everyone interested.