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Hey, sorry if this is discussed in another thread, but I read a few and couldn't find the answer.
I'm on ATT, but I want to have an unlocked bootloader, so if I buy the Tmobile version for full price online can I just put my ATT sim card in there and it will work? Also will I be able to get LTE?
Pikezer1337 said:
Hey, sorry if this is discussed in another thread, but I read a few and couldn't find the answer.
I'm on ATT, but I want to have an unlocked bootloader, so if I buy the Tmobile version for full price online can I just put my ATT sim card in there and it will work? Also will I be able to get LTE?
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I don't believe it is that easy. YOu either need to get Tmobile to Unlock the phone so you can move it to another carrier or pay someone online to unlock it - I don't think you can just switch sim cards unless you have first unlocked the phone. (I am not talking about unlocking the bootloader - that is something else entirely - TMOBILE probably won't lock theirs like ATT does - but the phone itself is locked to the carrier until you get it unlocked)
mocsab said:
I don't believe it is that easy. YOu either need to get Tmobile to Unlock the phone so you can move it to another carrier or pay someone online to unlock it - I don't think you can just switch sim cards unless you have first unlocked the phone. (I am not talking about unlocking the bootloader - that is something else entirely - TMOBILE probably won't lock theirs like ATT does - but the phone itself is locked to the carrier until you get it unlocked)
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Well if I buy it from Negri online it says it already comes unlocked. So since it is unlocked then is it able to be used on ATT, or is it only unlocked for Tmobile?
Pikezer1337 said:
Well if I buy it from Negri online it says it already comes unlocked. So since it is unlocked then is it able to be used on ATT, or is it only unlocked for Tmobile?
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The unlocked from Negri should work without issues
apascual89 said:
The unlocked from Negri should work without issues
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And I should still have LTE?
Pikezer1337 said:
Well if I buy it from Negri online it says it already comes unlocked. So since it is unlocked then is it able to be used on ATT, or is it only unlocked for Tmobile?
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If you buy it from TMOBILE it is probably locked but there are a bunch of places you can buy unlocked Note 3's - plus yiou can always unlock the MOBILE NOTE 3 either with TOMOBILEs help or thru an online service.
apascual89 said:
The unlocked from Negri should work without issues
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Plus I believe the Negri version is cheaper.
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And I should still have LTE?
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Yes you should. It has the bands to support it. Keyword should until someone with device on hand confirms it.
I plan on walking in Wednesday afternoon to a T-Mobile store, purchasing two Note 3s at full price (one black, one white) and then immediately using them both on AT&T. Actually one phone on AT&T and the other on AIO Wireless (AT&T network).
My history is with Verizon and Sprint so I'm not 100% sure about all the specifics of SIM cards.
I'd imagine I'll ask if its SIM locked, hopefully they say no and I'll be on my way. But if it is carrier SIM locked, I just ask them to unlock the device? Is this normal? Does anyone see any issues with this?
TerryNova said:
I plan on walking in Wednesday afternoon to a T-Mobile store, purchasing two Note 3s at full price (one black, one white) and then immediately using them both on AT&T. Actually one phone on AT&T and the other on AIO Wireless (AT&T network).
My history is with Verizon and Sprint so I'm not 100% sure about all the specifics of SIM cards.
I'd imagine I'll ask if its SIM locked, hopefully they say no and I'll be on my way. But if it is carrier SIM locked, I just ask them to unlock the device? Is this normal? Does anyone see any issues with this?
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i dont think they will be selling the device alone at full price anytime soon..
i ordered mine from negri and overnighted it so i am hoping to get it wensday/thursday. will post back with results but if it is unlocked fcc confirms which bands it works with so there should be no issues at all.
TerryNova said:
I plan on walking in Wednesday afternoon to a T-Mobile store, purchasing two Note 3s at full price (one black, one white) and then immediately using them both on AT&T. Actually one phone on AT&T and the other on AIO Wireless (AT&T network).
My history is with Verizon and Sprint so I'm not 100% sure about all the specifics of SIM cards.
I'd imagine I'll ask if its SIM locked, hopefully they say no and I'll be on my way. But if it is carrier SIM locked, I just ask them to unlock the device? Is this normal? Does anyone see any issues with this?
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Yeah I believe in-store, T-mobile requires you to have service with them to buy a phone at full price (even pre-paid service). So you'd have to signup for the cheapest one (I think like $30/mo), buy the phone, and cancel right away. However they still charge you for the first month.
However they should unlock it no issues (though you may have to call - don't know about t-mobile).
This was my experience at a T-mobile corporate store, you may have better luck at a franchise store.
dawheat said:
Yeah I believe in-store, T-mobile requires you to have service with them to buy a phone at full price (even pre-paid service). So you'd have to signup for the cheapest one (I think like $30/mo), buy the phone, and cancel right away. However they still charge you for the first month.
However they should unlock it no issues (though you may have to call - don't know about t-mobile).
This was my experience at a T-mobile corporate store, you may have better luck at a franchise store.
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Anyone know where to get the Tmobile version in white? Full price. Negri seems to sell the blk version only.
daraj said:
Anyone know where to get the Tmobile version in white? Full price. Negri seems to sell the blk version only.
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Hopefully Negri gets them in stock eventually.
Pikezer1337 said:
Hey, sorry if this is discussed in another thread, but I read a few and couldn't find the answer.
I'm on ATT, but I want to have an unlocked bootloader, so if I buy the Tmobile version for full price online can I just put my ATT sim card in there and it will work? Also will I be able to get LTE?
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Hi. I think these will precisely answer your questions about 3G/4G compatabilities between all US models (including ATT and TMo) for use in the US and abroad. A lot of people seem to think it has immensely clarified their concerns. It's partially based on FCC filings as well as documents from T-Mobile so is as official as it gets.
[Q] Which USA Note 3 Variant to get?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45794297#post45794297
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45807074#post45807074
Galaxy Note 3 AWS 1700/2100 Users Thread (T-mobile, Windmobile, Mobilicity)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46032280#post46032280
Best wishes.
I'm looking to get an s5 for use in north america. My sim card is using AT&T towers. I want a bootloader that allows unlocking using "fastboot oem unlock" or a similar command; no workarounds like loki. I will be buying outright, not carrier subsidizing for 2 years. Given these criteria, which model numbers should I be considering?
I've heard that the t-mobile one has the unlockable bootloader. Does it support all the bands to use AT&T towers?
I've seen more than one model number for international units. Are all the bootloaders unlockable? What's the deal with the region-locking? Will some of them work better for me than the others?
gianptune said:
I'm looking to get an s5 for use in north america. My sim card is using AT&T towers. I want a bootloader that allows unlocking using "fastboot oem unlock" or a similar command; no workarounds like loki. I will be buying outright, not carrier subsidizing for 2 years. Given these criteria, which model numbers should I be considering?
I've heard that the t-mobile one has the unlockable bootloader. Does it support all the bands to use AT&T towers?
I've seen more than one model number for international units. Are all the bootloaders unlockable? What's the deal with the region-locking? Will some of them work better for me than the others?
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There is no unlocking of bootloaders. It's either unlocked, or locked from the factory.
To answer your question, get the G900T (the tmobile version). You can get this at costco, best buy, target, .... and of course a tmobile store itself. It supports all of AT&T's bands and more.
aooga said:
There is no unlocking of bootloaders. It's either unlocked, or locked from the factory.
To answer your question, get the G900T (the tmobile version). You can get this at costco, best buy, target, .... and of course a tmobile store itself. It supports all of AT&T's bands and more.
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Best Buy doesn't carry T Mobile phones except I prepaid, so they can't buy it there.
joshua.justice said:
Best Buy doesn't carry T Mobile phones except I prepaid, so they can't buy it there.
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I bought the g900t and have been using it on att networks. I bought the phone unlocked but new beside that on ebay. I did have to play with some different apns to get it to take on different towers. I had some issues while traveling in different cities that I wouldn't get data. But I think I got the issue fixed. Just took the 133mb ota, hoping that it doesn't mess with the cell unlock or keep me from rooting. Well so far it hasn't messed with the carrier unlock
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Best Buy doesn't carry T Mobile phones except I prepaid, so they can't buy it there.
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Weird. Mine did. Just buy it at Costco or a tmo store. I just bought it from a tmobile store. Went through really easily.
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aooga said:
Weird. Mine did. Just buy it at Costco or a tmo store. I just bought it from a tmobile store. Went through really easily.
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the tmobile store told me that they would not unlock a new phone like this for at least 6 months even if you buy it outright. So if you do that plan on unlocking it with one of the many websites that do it
aklbeach said:
the tmobile store told me that they would not unlock a new phone like this for at least 6 months even if you buy it outright. So if you do that plan on unlocking it with one of the many websites that do it
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Well i'm on tmobile so I didn't need them to unlock anything, but you're right, they won't unlock it so the OP will need to use some unlocking site to use it on ATT.
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
i have one also people claim they can activaite with t-mobile or att but not verizon or sprint
rhoth1973 said:
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
rhoth1973 said:
Does anyone have this unit? Has anyone got a SIM card to work in it? I know it is wifi-only. Just thought I would ask.
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Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
kirdroid said:
Lol why the hell would it be wifi only... Not sure how people get this info and actually believe it.
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It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
rhoth1973 said:
It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
rhoth1973 said:
It does not work with my sprint SIM :crying: I would like it too! Does anyone know of a hack to make it so? And if I actually believed that it was wifi-only I wouldn't be asking.
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The answer used to be Sprint is CDMA not GSM so you have the wrong phone if I am correct. Sorry. But now that they have LTE....
LTE is the same functionally (not bands though) among carriers. You may need to call Sprint and see if they have some sort of blocking enabled for that device.
More Info http://www.whistleout.com/CellPhones/Guides/Can-I-use-my-verizon-sprint-phone-on-a-different-network
Bummer
Funk2641 said:
It won't ever work with your Sprint SIM because the H815 model is GSM only - and Sprint is CDMA
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That is a bummer...
rhoth1973 said:
That is a bummer...
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You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
I see the light!
rahlquist said:
You can always sell it and order sprints model http://androidandme.com/2015/05/news/lg-g4-for-sprint-launching-june-5-pre-orders-begin-today/
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Yes that I could! Thank you! :good:
rahlquist said:
Huh?
I haven an H815. Its most certainly not just wifi, matter of fact the Wifi is only good for data, not calls. I have it working with T-Mobile with no issues.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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I am about to order one from ebay (h815). I'm not sure if that will work with tmo since it's missing the aws 1700/2100 3g band. Isn't that a necessary band for mms?
Also looks like it's missing lte 12 but doesn't matter since Chicago hasn't been approved for that band anyway and it'll be a while before that happens.
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Havent had any trouble with mms, sending photos from my G4 on t-mo to wifes G3.
What are the differences between the F500 and the H815? Here in Australia, the F500 is approximately $100 more expensive than the H815 on eBay. Of course, it hasn't been released yet and I believe that, when it is released, it will cost around $900. ( -_-)
In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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In Australia, if you're with Telstra and want the new 4GX network, you need the 815 or 815T. You need one that has 700MHz(B28) band, and it seems both of them do have this. If you're with Optus, the 815 is missing an LTE band and you'd be best going for the 815T.
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I'm with the crappiest company; Vodafone. I didn't even know there were so many models of the G4. Thanks for that!
I don't use 4G/LTE. There's dodgy coverage in Perth and its suburbs (even just general 2G/3G) and I'm usually in reach of wifi.
I hope someone can make a list of all the models to make it easier to find the international model versus carrier models.
QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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QD_AU on eBay are selling them for AU$799 - great price! It's the Taiwan version, the 815: http://stores.ebay.com.au/QD-Shopping-Centre/_i.html?_nkw=h815&submit=Search&_sid=138021041
They're a reputable store with lots of great feedback on places like Whirlpool.
I'm about to pull the trigger on one
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Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
Speed test on T-Mobile.
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DeadSOL said:
Ah, yeah. I saw that. Not a bad price but why is the leather-back version the same price as the plastic cover one?
Is the F500 the international variant or the H815? Which one do you think will get the fastest updates? I really want to switch from my Nexus 5. With Google's new Photos app coming later today, I'd love to take photos on the G4 and upload them.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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H815 is the international version I think. Yea, they're selling them all for the same price. on there.
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All righty. It does seem like the H815 is the international version.
I'll think about ordering it soon. I've already spent too much this month and I'm running out of money.
I keep on seeing more and more eBay sellers and also on swappa, dual sim phones that supports AT&T.
Could that be?
borisb said:
I keep on seeing more and more eBay sellers and also on swappa, dual sim phones that supports AT&T.
Could that be?
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Hey Boris, possibly, there is some discussion in this thread too if you're keen to read https://forum.xda-developers.com/u-ultra/development/intl-vs-markets-dual-sim-vs-single-sim-t3566439
As stated the P10 plus is available on ebay, I am just wondering if I should wait or if the CN version would work on US cellular carriers? thanks!
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As stated the P10 plus is available on ebay, I am just wondering if I should wait or if the CN version would work on US cellular carriers? thanks!
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You should look at the LTE Bands supported, compare it to the ones used by your US provider and make up your own opinion, no?
Actually no, because over the years of buying unlocked phones I have found that ebay listings tend to lack these facts or are not trustworthy, especially when they are written overseas. I will not drop >$800 on a phone until I know for sure. I posted here since I figured some may already have experience with the handset. Thank you
Then you should wait. If ebay listings are the only source you can find for technical information on the p10 plus then don't risk your money.
Even if bands work you could end up with a Chinese model like what I got when I ordered a P9 Plus and didn't pay attention to model numbers. It wasn't a big deal, just took some time to get Google play installed. And some apps and settings not in English
I have a mate 9 china version and it works in Canada on Telus and Rogers network. Just FYI.
A spec list from huawei Chinese website for P10 Plus:
LTE FDD:Band1/2/3/4/5/7/8/9/12/17/18/19/20/26
TD-LTE: Band38/39/40/41（100M）
UMTS(WCDMA)/HSPA+/DC-HSDPA:Band1/2/4/5/6/8/19
TD-SCDMA:Band34/39 （移动主频段）
CDMA（主副卡二选一）:BC0( 800MHz)；(仅限中国电信（中国大陆+澳门）)
GSM/EDGE:850/900/1800/1900MHz
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Yes it will work I get 4G on tmobile
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Yes it will work I get 4G on tmobile
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Awesome, I was crossing my fingers since I'm on T-Mobile as well.
Edit: Got my phone and went over to the T-Mobile store. Full coverage as soon as they put the nano sim in!