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Hi guys, please bear with us on this one.
This is my 2nd Android phone, I used to have an Hero about 6 months ago. i really liked the front end but the screen was small so I upgraded to an HD2 which I still have. On the HD2 the screen is huge but Win Mobile lets it down a bit. The marketplace is expensive and very limited and the amount of apps for Win Mobile seem to be getting less and less, especially supproting the 800x480 WVGA screen on the HD2.
Anyway I was due an upgrade and Orange offered me the X10 for £20 which i couldn't refuse. I am trying to like the phone but the biggest issue for me is the battery. I did the usual of leaving it plugged in for 16 hours as recommended by orange etc. If the phone is on standby I seem to get around 8 hours and the battery will be down to about 40% remaining charge. That is on standby with the top button pressed and the phone on a black screen. This is really poor considering the HD2 can run almost 2 days on standby before loosing 60% of its charge.
Anybody got any suggestions on how to improve this? Would it be wise for me to do the debrand as mentioned in other threads? It is currently on build R1FA014.
Thanks for the help.
The battery will improve in time, after a few weeks of use the X10 will loose 1-2% of battery each 2 hours (at least my X10 R1FA016 and two of my friends X10 R1FA014 do). This is with 3G on, wifi sometimes on, GPS sometimes on. Just give it some time. I think the X10 is one of the best smartphones out there. There is an extensive thread on Power Usage which can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657265
In the end it comes down to:
-Give it some time
-Disable auto search for software updates (settings>about phone>update)
-Wifi seems to drain sometimes
-Streaming drains.
Thanks for the pointers Vin87, I have got wifi turned off now but I am at work for the next 7 hours and I only have about 28% charge remaining
I'm going to have a good read through the thread you mentioned all 50+ pages LOL.
I do like the phone and for the cost I am going to keep it and hopefully we will get some new updates soon?
It gets better...way better. 13 hours since my last charge, and it's at 71%. I've been using it every now and then, Facebook, sending emails ect.
Great battery life now!
From a work perspective, I miss the X10 having a dock.
With my G900 each time I returned to my desk,I would throw it the dock and so it was receiving a charge throughout the day, the X10 is more fiddly as you need to play around the the flap and then figure out which way to plug in the mini-USB cable...
I wish they had chosen a better connector than the mini-USB as the standard, as it's not that easy to quickly connect it....
I could almost throw my G900 at the charging cable and it would connect.
Basically (if you want to use the smartphone):
1. In the beginning you will use the phone a lot. Installing apps, trying apps, games, music etc. so the battery drains faster. When you will stop pushing the phone to the limit will be better
2. Wait for a week, the batter will get better.
3. Get a task killer/boot manager and set it to autokill moxier. Don't kill other apps
4. Set facebook/twitter sync at 1h (or more) if you are not a hardcore fan of this social platforms.
5. Email: if you need instant notification there is not much you can do. If you don't need it, disable background sync and sync manually.
6. Disable location using wireless networks.
7. Wifi/3G: if you need instant notifications, wifi will drain your battery pretty fast but if you don't have 3G data plan like me, there is no other choice. If you have a good 3G plan, you can set wifi sleep policy to turn off wifi when phone goes to "sleep". Also, you can use this together with Juice defender free to turn 3G on 2 min every 3min to get notifications so, you will save even more battery.
8. Enable bluetoot/gps only when you use them and keep them disabled when not.
9. Set brightness to manual and around 25% when you are indoor and "sleep time" (screen timeout) to 30sec
10. Oh, i forgot, disable search for software updates and if you didn't install too many things, try a factory defaults. Some people did a SD card format (be sure you save everything first) and reported battery improvement.
If you want to use the dumbphone inside then turn everything off (BT, GPS, 3G, WIFI, Twitter/Facebook, email, background sync, etc.) and your dumbphone will last way longer
[UPDATES] Battery saving tips.
WiFi sleep policy : Wireless & Network > WiFi settings > menu > advanced > WiFi sleep policy > when screen turns off > enable
Mobile networks : Wireless & Network > Mobile networks > (disable packet date, change network mode to GSM only)
Settings > Location & security > (disable use wireless networks, disable use gps satellite)
Settings > Applications > Samsung apps > (off)
Accounts & sync > (disable background data & auto sync)
Settings > Privacy > (disable backup my data , disable automatic restore)
Settings > display > screen mode > (change to movie)
Settings > display > brightness > (disable automatic brightness & move slider to the left extreme)
use cpu spy to see if the phone is not entering deep sleep mode.
use better battery stats to check which app is consuming more power. link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
Go power master is a good tool for reducing the consumption by setting profiles.
Go Launcher Ex has good customization as well as running apps indicator in the app drawer where apps can be closed selectively / collectively.
use battery monitor widget pro to check the drain (better than the stock battery indicator)
Using Maps-Latitude , facebook app, fring mobile voip etc can drain the juice to a great extent.
Juice defender app has a good track record & would come in handy for better battery performance.
Above mentioned steps are for non rooted users.
Best if you can root the device. By this way you can use a good custom rom & a custom kernel combination to get good battery life.
Use Titanium Backup or similar to freeze Wi-fi sharing and Wi-fi sharing manager (by TempusFudgeIt)
After flashing a new rom, charge the battery to full on power off. When @ 100% remove the battery & wait for 2 minutes & reinsert & restart the phone. Said to be good for better stats in the first cycle. (by Kr$na) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1209087
use your Note when needed (dont check the time every minute etc)! This will help the system to get "deep sleep". (by mR.fR34ky)
Turn off automatic brightness ( use Stock brightness adjustment or alternatively use widgetsoid widget / Brightness control / Brightness level / Screen filter app with custom screen brightness % button) (by mR.fR34ky)
Turn off 3G network and turn back when you need to use it. (push mail will work on Edge and lower networks [gprs])(by mR.fR34ky)
Browse facebook from browser and use facebook messages app. (Avoid installing facebook app)(by mR.fR34ky)
Uninstall all of the unsed apps via Titanium Backup (ofc make a backup before uninstalling)(by mR.fR34ky)
FEEL FREE TO ADD MORE TIPS.
Here is a standby test I did a few months ago. I didn't follow all that , and my Note managed 8 days 8 hours and some when it hit the 30% mark.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473692
It all depends on how much you keep the screen on.
yes, true. I only have about 3 hours screen on time from my 3+ days of usage. Also, this is the first battery cycle after flashing the new speedmod kernel. Dev was somewhat halted in speedmod but is active now with some great offering. Had been a great fan of Hardcore's work from the s2 days.
Does changing screen mode save battery ?
LOL... Disabled everything??? Then why do we need a monster beast like this???? What is the use of sacrificing all these wonderful features for saving battery??? Buy a cheap one with no features stated above... There is a phone with 15 days battery backup in samsung. No offense. Just a thought.
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LOL... Disabled everything??? Then why do we need a monster beast like this???? What is the use of sacrificing all these wonderful features for saving battery??? Buy a cheap one with no features stated above... There is a phone with 15 days battery backup in samsung. No offense. Just a thought.
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Actualy i have to agree with you XD carrying it around without using it better off with a smaller thing dont you think ?
though each step he mentioned was true you can get long standby time if you don't use the screen meaning just dont take the phone out of your pocket, vibration eats battery too. i have almost 85% of the time the wifi connected and and browsing listening to music and downloading manage getting 14 hours with bluetooth GPS WiFi gamming a little and some calls i would say 15 minutes
i mean a massive battery just root and flash a worthy KERNEL anyhow you can also use setCPU and make the phone run at 200Mhz when screen off and run at 800 Mhz when battery fully charged infact nothing actually demands for more power than that i tested it and it flows.... plus when getting to 35% range use it at 500Mhz that way it saves works never hangs and for sure gets 14 hours of standby & usage.
I know this probably doesn't matter much as many usually replace the phone before the battery is dead but draining a lithium battery all the way down greatly takes away life. You should charge your battery every night as you are sleeping anyway. The depth of discharge takes life away from lithium. Deeper you go the less cycles you get. Take advantage of your sleep time and charge the phone.
A lithium that is only taken down to 50% can have up to 4 times as many cycles as one that is taken down to 10% every cycle.
I read somewhere that lithium batteries lost their lives trying to absorb last dose of charging.
There came that famous Ezekeel kernel.
Don't know much about it so I could be wrong too.
pfer10 said:
I know this probably doesn't matter much as many usually replace the phone before the battery is dead but draining a lithium battery all the way down greatly takes away life. You should charge your battery every night as you are sleeping anyway. The depth of discharge takes life away from lithium. Deeper you go the less cycles you get. Take advantage of your sleep time and charge the phone.
A lithium that is only taken down to 50% can have up to 4 times as many cycles as one that is taken down to 10% every cycle.
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Exactly.. I'm using mobile phone for past 13 years.. Right from day one I charge my devices when I sleep (never mind it's completely drained or full) it'll be plugged to charger whole sleep time. I'm following this all the years and I have never changed a single battery of any device. To maintain life.. Do not let battery drain to its death. All the device have builtin circuits to cut off the charging when it's done so I never cared to switch off soon after full charge.
As REVERSIN suggest... To get a better Battery, mod your phone optimum with good kernel and rom..
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To each the usage n battery life is different.
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I dropped the brightness by 20% (from 40 to 20%) and used Opera Mini instead of the stock browser and I went from around 4 hours screen time to 5.5!
Use Titanium Backup or similar to freeze Wi-fi sharing and Wi-fi sharing manager made a difference to my unit. Got an extra few hours a day.
Also freezing social hub helped.
It does not matter it last for 2 days or 10 days, but at lease last for 1 full days. I can charge the battery daily but I can't have my phone stop working some time in a day just because of battery.
skyhew said:
It does not matter it last for 2 days or 10 days, but at lease last for 1 full days. I can charge the battery daily but I can't have my phone stop working some time in a day just because of battery.
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It depends what your usage with the phone is like - everything I have read indicates that the longest continuous use you will get with the Note is around 6 hours - that is with the screen on all that time... (Not putting it into standby and then checking it seven days later to see if it has any juice )
I consistently get over a day and still have around 30-40% charge. My use would be:
1.5 hours video
15 minutes calls
30 minutes music
1.5 hours reading ebooks, emails, sms and browsing the internet
I'm pretty happy with that. Having the tether cable means I can charge the phone from my PC when in the office every second day.
i have followed some of the tips & i m getting 2-3 days. Thanx.
+1 for a sticky.
Good compilation of the details. Think this is good for a sticky.
priyanv said:
LOL... Disabled everything??? Then why do we need a monster beast like this???? What is the use of sacrificing all these wonderful features for saving battery??? Buy a cheap one with no features stated above...
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There is a world of difference between having a phone with no features, and having a phone with features that you have turned off by default if you aren't using them. I have a car with lots of options in it and I don't leave the car running 24x7 with everything switched on.
for those with <1 day battery life, if you have used any of these methods to better your battery life, pls post them with some stats in the forum to help others !!!
Also, i will update the 1st post with suggestions from you (just to keep updated).
ChodTheWacko said:
There is a world of difference between having a phone with no features, and having a phone with features that you have turned off by default if you aren't using them. I have a car with lots of options in it and I don't leave the car running 24x7 with everything switched on.
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Why do we pay for not using features??? ;-)
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We pay for the features to use it when we need it.
I don't leave wifi/3g turned on at nights.
Nor do I need google+, facebook, twitter, google docs, google current auto-synchronizing when I'm asleep. Edge is enough to sync gmail.
I switched my Galaxy S5 (SM-900M ... NG3 july kernel stock ROM) to Power Saving Mode (not Ultra Power Saving Mode). Despite the default internet browsing being laggy even when doing simple tasks as scrolling Facebook, I don't see any noticeable gain in battery life. What's wrong with my phone? :crying:
Power saving isn't meant to be used while playing the internet....
umrafael said:
I switched my Galaxy S5 (SM-900M ... NG3 july kernel stock ROM) to Power Saving Mode (not Ultra Power Saving Mode). Despite the default internet browsing being laggy even when doing simple tasks as scrolling Facebook, I don't see any noticeable gain in battery life. What's wrong with my phone? :crying:
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Did you Restrict Background data, Restrict Performance and turned on gray scale mod in Power saving mode?
Masum56k said:
Did you Restrict Background data, Restrict Performance and turned on gray scale mod in Power saving mode?
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I selected every available option. The Power Saving Mode is very frustrating. I definately would like it to make my limited 4G experience a little bit longe on the S5. Power Saving Mode on a mobile device should be able to make your online time much longer...
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I selected every available option. The Power Saving Mode is very frustrating. I definately would like it to make my limited 4G experience a little bit longe on the S5. Power Saving Mode on a mobile device should be able to make your online time much longer...
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No, it won`t. It extends batterylife when the phone is in idle mode so you can use the phone for a longer period
Hi guys, can you post battery stats, including Screen On Time?
Thanks.
My first drain from 100% = ~22 hours of life with over 4 hours of SOT. Qualcomm Quick charge will have me back in 96 minutes. Pretty impressive for such a little phone.
Lasted a whole day about 20 hours until I reached 4% before I charged it again. Only
25 min of gaming
30 min video
45 min phone
3 hours use on internet
7 hours of calc player , Howard stern
Wi-Fi on all time
Display settings on default
No power saving mode
I'm impressed
The day after when I installed more apps it's more noticeable to see drain from certain apps that constantly use push notification like slickseals
First drain from 100%.
SOT around 3 hours
Automatic brightness
WiFi on 24/7, connected only when at home
Bluetooth on 24/7, also used with Android Wear
~5 hours of BT streaming (Play Music streaming over LTE)
7 Google accounts on Push
1 Outlook account on Push / 1 Verizon account on 2 hour Fetch (stock Email app)
Facebook / G+
Lots of apps installed...
Here is mine from today so far.
On pace for almost 6+ hours SOT.
I also have the Always on Display setting turned on.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B8_ESszeycXGQkY3MnNRTmFCX1E/view?usp=sharing
The battery has been really good so far. When I checked the first time, it last for 16-17 hours total and 6-7 hours of sot. I was reading, watching videos, and playing games. I'm satisfied.
Pretty good so far I think. Far better than I ever got with the s6
Just under 7 hours screen on time from the very first charge.
i usually get between 4-4.5 hours screen on time and i use bluetooth all day with my headset along with streaming milk music with some games.
Yesterday/day before :29 hours with 5 hours Screen on time
Today: 20 hours with 6.5 hours screen on time
By far the best battery life i have ever had on any smart phone
I'm happy with this. Location always on high. Bluetooth on all day with my s2 classic.
Auto brightness and regular data the whole time, not bad at all
No complaints
So far battery is pretty good
I've been pleased. Wifi Calling and VoLTE on. Location services/history on (WiFi and network, GPS off unless using maps). Auto brightness. Stock settings, a few apps disabled.
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So far battery is pretty good
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I never thought I'd see the day... a Galaxy with 7 hrs SOT.:good:
This is my 5th full charge. Screen brightness at about 60/65%, Always On Display on, GPS on, not trying to preserve power in any way....
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This is my 5th full charge. Screen brightness at about 60/65%, Always On Display on, GPS on, not trying to preserve power in any way....
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How is yours blacked out like that?
Best SOT I ever got. Doze kept it alive at the end lol
No Bluetooth, No Location - Yes WiFi, LTE 100% signal coverage, no downtime, overall low brightness around 25-40% I can't seem to get past a day of regular use with 2 hours and half average screen time. Using latest OTA.
I've turned off the always-on screen, several bloatware that came preinstalled, including Facebook and Whatsapp.
The first on the battery usage is always Android System followed by Cell Standby then Android OS (again???) and then Screen. Also the voice call seems to use some great amount of battery. Naming might be different since my Android is in another language.
Have turned on energy saving for most apps that runs on background. Doesn't help much since I don't have many apps that runs on background. Imagine if I did! My day ends with about 20~27% battery left, I just turned off fast charging to see if it helps anything. My Xperia Z3 with Whatsapp and a great deal of apps installed would end the day with over 50~65% with Stamina Mode. I know the screen is smaller but so is the battery.
So I thought it would get better with time but it didn't, it's the S7 Edge Exynos Single SIM, unbranded with the official Samsung rom so I could get the latest updates or I would be stuck with no updates at all since Frebuary, since my carrier usually only releases major OTAs such Android N and skips all the minor updates.
Yes I did a factory reset already hoping for the better, maybe I got a defective Galaxy S7? I'd hate to have my phone fixed and the battery changed, it wont be the same again unless they give me a new one which is unlikely.
Why is Android System and Android OS draining so much battery? Are there any tools to debug this and trace which processes are using CPU time? Or could this be due a faulty battery?
Settings, Applications, Google. Disable all the services that will cause wakelocks such as all security options. This is something 99% of folks overlook or forget. Post a screenshot of your battery stats
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1827676
Only settings marked above are "Allow remote lock and erase"
Here is an average day with:
**Few moments connected to my laptop transferring pictures from yesterday - so incidentally it took some charge on the way.
1 hour 29 minutes voice call, 3G/LTE signal is excelent, VoLTE not used, WiFi on occasionaly, Location off, Bluetooth off.
1 hour 12 minutes running Fallout Shelter with power saving on, 30 fps low resolution mode, that's the CPU time at least.
2hour 28 minutes screen time with very dim brightness
Power saving ON all apps where available, I have absolutely nothing installed but a couple of games, Teamviewer and Microsoft Remote Desktop.
That left me with 49% battery. Not sure how great the results are considering the brightness was very low.
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Dont quote me on this but I believe the Android System drain issue is a byproduct of the latest Samsung firmware update...
Someone more in the know could correct me or elaborate more
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There is a thread on battery life here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/s7-edge/how-to/post-battery-life-t3321547
you might find some help/answers in there
Regards
Sawdoctor
Just some heads up, in offline mode my phone went a full day with a 6% drop, half hour screen time and some minor gaming, when I turned the phone radio back on around 20:00 when it was 10:00AM it was down to 15% battery, solely on standby. No bluetooth No location - Yes Wireless Yes LTE